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What would Jesus do?

Yeah the title sounds corny, but if you remember what this weekend is, it’s Easter weekend, and yesterday was good Friday. That’s the day the state assasinated him by nailing him to a cross, after bringing up phoney charges against him, by false witnesses. Sound familiar?

He came with a mission to help people. He was persecuted at times, until finally the state found a way to target him once and for all. They used a snitch that was a part of his company to sell him out, and along the way he had to tell the powers that be that they were corrupt and misleading the people. He would get angry at times, he also found it frustrating how people were at times. The spread rumours about him, said he had a demon, that he was crazy, a friend of sinners and publicans, they asked him all sorts of questions to try to set him up, like is it right to pay taxes? Hoping he would say no, so they could set him up.

In doing this activism, I realise that State oppression and the parasite informants don’t change that much. The same stuff that happened then, is the same stuff that pretty much happens now. The world does not change, and the people in charge know how to manipulate the people in the system. They know how to keep people in check, give them a sense of freedom, and then keep then in check in various ways.

I have been thinking about this a lot, because I am wondering what he would do about the informants? Would he try to out them, out them but subtly, or just ignore them? I have been thinking about the ways he handled himself, because I see a lot of this stuff is the same. He came across the same kind of system.

The more I see of these people’s actions and the deliberate tactics they use, the more I am reminded of his activism/ministry. I know a lot of people might not be able to relate, or this might not be there cup of tea, but if you are a target, it might not hurt to brush up on the way he handled irritating people who were spreading rumours, slander, a family that cared for him, but might not have been there for him, the way he needed, people trying to set him up, officials that were corrupt and teaching the common people all the wrong things, and Judas the snitch that would betray him.

Most times I just ignore them, but I don’t think this is the right approach, so I have been wondering what others would do. I know people always think of Jesus as peaceable, and for the most part he was, but he was not above telling the corrupt leaders what they were, what they were doing to the people, and he could hold his own.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/kjv/mat009.htm

The same type of parasites then and now. It’s fascinating, but it’s true. So that’s what I have been wondering, how did he handle being around Judas, how do you handle these snitches? How do you handle the provocation they bring, and cause, and what is the best way to deal with them?

I think you can learn a lot from the past, but I also think each activist is going to be different and you have to find ways to deal with each situation. What works for one will not work for the other, and yet we can take advise from past targets and apply them quite easily to the current situations at hand in trying to determine what to do under some circumstance.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/kjv/mat011.htm

[quote]18 For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He hath a devil.
19 The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.[/quote]

Always trying to find something. They also called him crazy at times as well.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/kjv/mat012.htm
[quote] 14 Then the Pharisees went out, and held a council against him, how they might destroy him.[/quote]

Always looking for a way to bring down those who would question and challenge the system.

A lot of the stuff John Lennon said is coming back to me as well. The quote is from the US vs John Lennon.

https://gangstalking.wordpress.com/2008/12/13/the-us-vs-john-lennon/

[quote]“When it gets down to having to use violence then you are playing the systems games. The establishment irritates you, pull your beard and flick your face to make you fight, because once they have you violent then they know how to handle you. “
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They really don’t change that much, this parasitic element. I guess each person in every generation has to find their own way to deal with them, and leave what they can for the next target.

It’s interesting however, a lot does not change in the way these people think work and operate, it would be nice for once to fully win.

April 11, 2009 Posted by | activism, Awareness, Citizen Informants, Civilian Spies, Cointelpro, conspiracies, Conspiracy, Controlled society, crazy, dissident, False Prophets, Gang Stalking, Gangstalking, government corruption, Informants, Isolation, Jesus, judas, slavery, slaves, Snitches, Targeted Individual | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | 6 Comments

The reason I am not a snitch.

The reason that I am not a snitch. Someone recently reminded me of how important it was to start snitching. Yes in crack world maybe.

However in my world I am not a snitch and do not choose to be, because I am already too busy being a witness. I am too busy out testifying to the evils that are being committed. See I don’t need to be a snitch cause I am already a witness, but what’s the difference you ask?

http://www.sssw.ca

[quote]Witnessing teaches society to do what it has always been expected to do. Be a good neighbour, watch out for those around you. Protect them and care about them like you would for yourself. It’s all about freedom to stand up against the oppression of criminal elements in society. Being a witness does not bound and entrap, it’s about being free and helping out those around you. Witnessing shows that you care about your friends, family and the society at large. It’s noble because the goal is to protect, assist and keep our community safe.

Snitching advocates the fact that you do not have to respect the laws of society, you just have to be willing to snitch when the time comes. Snitching does not foster moral or social responsibility for criminal actions. It fosters a lack of community trust, and shows that law officials will willingly turn a blind eye to the crimes of snitches, and let them walk free in society, or have reduced jail sentences. It’s used to help criminals set up and inform on other criminals, and sometimes on the innocent.

Witnessing does not stop the police from doing their jobs, in fact it fosters community corporation because the community sees criminals being put away. There are no dirty under handed deals enslaving members of their communities to become informants and so it fosters a sense of trust with the very people who citizens are suppose to be able to trust.

Snitching destroys families and communities. It does this by making the young men and woman in those societies untrustworthy. It encourages backstabbing and betrayal of friends, family, strangers. It’s puts societies that are already strained into even more strained circumstances. Snitching creates mental slaves, who willingly or unwillingly sell their souls to the system for reduced sentences, or freedom from iron prisons.

Witnessing allows the police to do the work that they were hired to do. It puts the proper amount of power back in the hands our legal justice system.

Snitching allows police and prosecutors to get into a vicious and relentless cycle of dependency. It teaches police an addictive reliance on criminal informants for the conviction of other criminals. It teaches them to be lazy and to trust the untrustworthy. Most times to the detriment of the very societies they are sworn to serve and to protect.

Witnesses help and keep society safe and like wise they should be protected by the community they risk their lives to keep safe, and by the law enforcement persons assigned to those communities. These are the people that should be getting immunity and full protection from law enforcement. This form of community corporation is helpful and it fosters good will in society. We learn to trust that wrongs will be made right and those that commit crimes will pay for them. It’s a cohesive force that holds society together.

Snitching is being used to destroy the moral fibers of society. It’s being used to put criminals on the street with full immunity from crimes they might commit or have committed, because they are snitching on others. It’s a devious dragnet that is creating and endless army of slave informants for the law enforcement community. It’s causing devastation in some communities, and it’s doing more harm than good.

When a society sees that criminals can be put back on the street and protected for their past crimes and future crimes, it erodes the morals of that society. People learn to not trust or respect law enforcement and they also learn to not corporate with law enforcement, cause how can you trust someone who employs the services of paid criminals?

Witnessing is all about liberation and being free, snitching is mental slavery that leaves individuals owned and trapped in a perpetual cycle that hurts society at large. Cases are being solved, but at what cost to the society, morally and ethically?

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See people think that snitching is really doing society a lot of good, but as I have blogged about before it’s no such thing. Snitching is ruining society and many communities, but very few people have brought the issue into the forefront.

What has been said before is that people who get caught in criminal acts, murder, rape, pedophiles, drug dealers, etc are getting sweet deals and they are getting off, or getting out early, they go back out into these communities and commit high rates of crime, thus people get scared and they want the police to do something to help them. These criminals do not get arrested again, because they are police controlled informants, and so they often end up terrorising these communities, driving up the rates of crime in a society. It then creates a need for these Citizen Informant Programs and gives people the impression that snitching is a good thing. Being a good neighbour is the only thing that has ever been required.

I am doing that, I am being a good neighbour, when I see something that I don’t think it right, I write about it, blog about it, talk to people about it.

https://gangstalking.wordpress.com/2007/08/05/meet-your-meat/

https://gangstalking.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/9-year-old-in-american-prison-camps/

https://gangstalking.wordpress.com/2008/09/11/conspiracy-of-two/

If I saw someone hurt in my community I would look out for them, and my community. That is what I do, that is my responsibility. I however do not need to be part of a snitching system to do this, and if society has brain washed some members into thinking that is what is necessary to feel safe, then I feel truly sorry for them.

“Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
Benjamin Franklin,

And they shall have neither. In the end you will be the vehicles of your own enslavement and you will have no one to blame but yourselves. Be good citizens, look out for each other, respect and care for one another, if you see something that is not right do your duty as a citizen, speak out, testify, but you never have to be in a controlled program to do you essential human duty.

I am too busy being a witness, whistle-blower, light, town crier, etc. I am doing what I am meant to be doing, and I never have to be a snitch to do what is required of me. These lessons use to be taught in the schools, when we use to let God into the schools, they were the most basic lessons, do unto others as you would have done unto you. Basic morality use to be taught, and I think it use to make us more free, more human, more decent to one another, but I have not see that for a long time.

Therefore snitch if you want to snitch, but as for me, I will serve God.

Joshua 24:14-24

September 19, 2008 Posted by | Citizen Informants, Civilian Spies, community policing, Controlled society, Gang Stalking, Gangstalking, judas, Laws, Neighbours, slavery, slaves, Snitches, Stop snitching, Surveillence | , , , , , , , | 1 Comment

Playing both sides

I had computer troubles for the last couple of weeks. Right after my I want out post, my computer stopped working. So since getting back online, it’s been maintenance. Now I am back to blogging and thought I would address the important topic of playing both sides.

I was recently on the brainsubjegation forums, not the real name. Anyways I received an email about a list of perps. (Snitches or Citizen Informants pretending to be targets, but who are really just there to mess up the lives and efforts of targets.)

Though the list seems more or less accurate, there were a couple of names there that I hope are wrong, but probably not. Anyways I always try to remind targets to not get caught up in this stuff. One of the things these people like to do is play both sides.

Meaning early on I learnt that you will have two people both pretending to be targets, however they will argue with each other and accuse the other of being a perp this, and perp that and in the end, they both end up being perps. I have blogged about this before. What ends up happening is that the target feels forced to choose sides. They end up feeling that if the two are arguing, at least one has to be a real target right? Wrong.

It never changes, and at the end of the day who knows who is on whos side, the only thing you can do is just be on your side, be aware of how this works and try not to fall into the trap of it.

In the end it just keeps the target in a constant state of anxiety, because they don’t know what to believe or who to trust. Trust yourself.
A lot of sites online past and present are not run by real targets. Even sites you think should be. I try to put forward the sites I think you can trust, but even I could be wrong. I am perfect, wish I was. So just learn to do a lot of research for yourself. Had I trusted the people that were online when I came on, I would not be where I am today.

I was lucky to do a lot of my own research and once I started going out in public again, after awhile, I was lucky to tune into what was really happening over time. Not that that was great either, but at least it was the truth. A scary mind numbing, city full of zoombies truth, but truth none the less.

Anyways that’s the first order of business, playing both sides is a strategic move that perps know how to do, and will do it for as long as they can. Keep an eye out for this and try to avoid this pit stop if you can, in the real world and online.

June 8, 2008 Posted by | Bullying, Censorship, changing vibrations, Citizen Informants, Civilian Spies, Cointelpro, Conformity, control, Corruption, Gang Stalking, Gangstalking, harassment, Intimidation, Isolation, judas, mental-salves, Mind Control, mobbing, Monitoring, Snitches, Social Control, Surveillence, Targeted Individual | 4 Comments

Society of secrecy.

This is the post that will sound out there, no matter how I write it, and no matter what I do, so I will just go for.

This is in relationship to Mark M. Rich and the fact that he thinks this is a bit more than a subset of society. I just think this is how the society is period, and some of us just don’t realise this, but many others do, and are just not saying anything.

Not only is there a plethora of movies, books, soaps, that try to describe bits of this from time to time, or other times in history, but this is also based on my own personal experience.

When I first discovered the snitching and the one handed sign language, I ofcourse wanted to make sure that I was on the right track, so I did the only thing that I could do. When you have a hypothesis you have to go out and prove it, and get verifiable results that can be repeated, or something like that.

If this is what I was seeing, then I should be able to get confirmation of it. This is the part that surprised me, because to get confirmation for a time I had to interact with the Civilian Spies/Snitches.

This was also when I realised that not all of them were evil, many of them were just average citizens thinking they were doing a good job for the society. Many were actually proud. I think I might have mentioned this in my postings or on the forums. Before this, I ofcourse just thought that they were evil.

I mean from a Targeted Individual (TI) perspective, they are driving people to suicide, or acts of violence, pushing them towards homelessness, mobbing people out of work, setting them up for being jailed or institutionalised, I mean these are horrific acts to be perpetrating against your fellow man, but these people they don’t care, they also don’t necessarily see it that way. That’s what the hands on research would show me.

Back to Mark’s point and why I think that this is just how society is.

[b]The Snitches[/b]

When this started I would go on the train, that’s where I observed some things, and got much confirmation. Remember this is me on the train for the last year and a half. I would walk through train cars to see if the snitching thing was happening in more than one train car, I wanted to make sure that the snitches were not just concentrated where I was. Not the case, I could go from one car almost to the end, and it would be the same thing. Average citizens, all ages, races, genders, that were part of the Civilian Spying/Snitching force.

I also during this time period interacted with some, to try to confirm either verbally or none verbally the things that I was observing, and did get the confirmations that I was seeking. Oh the concentrations that I was seeing on the trains, I have listed as 90%, but what I would really be observing is almost 100% concentrations.

At the various places that I have worked over the last year and a half. Work use to be normal and steady before this, now it’s transitional, and variety based. The system can keep you unemployed, or push you into specific jobs that it wants you to be pushed into. It can make sure you are on contact vs fully employed, or other things. Just let’s say that when people say that the system is keeping them out of a job, or they are blacklisted, it’s not a joke. It’s hard to imagine how it can happen, in a democratic society, but that is just the joke, about this so called democratic society.

Anyways. Every job that I have had has had snitches. I can tell you at 2 out of 4 locations that every co-worker on my level was snitching. The 4th location I was not there long enough to make an accurate observation, what I did see was right up there however. Two of the jobs were for smaller companies, but again the training classes were 100% filled with co-workers who were Civilian Spies/Snitches.

I have spoken to people who have advised that it’s the government, others who think this is just another McCarthyism, others who think that the snitching is localised to where they work, they don’t get to see what I saw and experienced as a target. Eg. That this is global and not just localised, another assured me it’s normal and this happens in others countries, as well. (Yeah, good to know.)

At one job where I worked, we had international students, from various places around the globe, and again they were snitches. I can only assume that this is what is happening in their countries as well, or they learnt the snitching to be part of this exchange program.

[b]Vibrating/Pulsating Floors[/b]

Other experiences. With the vibrating floors, it almost feels like a mini power generator is making the floors pulsate/vibrate. I know that sounds weird, at work right, all jobs? If I was not experiencing it, I would think it was just out there. However I like to confirm what I am experiencing, so I got feedback from others.

At one job where this happened. Not only would the floors vibrate, but when this would happen, we had this glass that was sort of like frosted glass, but it would shake, and you could visually see it. I also would get co-workers to confirm what was happening with the vibrations or ask questions as to what was making it happen. There were people that were very aware of what was going on, and well… (I will leave it at that.)

The other job, I was not there long enough to make too many observations. The shaking thing was happening, but I think based on what was happening it was affecting the persons beside me just as much. We would have moments, where we would have to stand up at the exact same times, (due to the intensity of the shaking floors) and once I made eye contact with the person beside when this happened and the person was like, “I just don’t want to know.” I left it at that, but it was one of those things.

Another job this happened in the training class, and I thought it was just me at first, but it’s not. The whole training class was experiencing this. That was and is the part that I just can’t wrap my mind around. As a target you are like, it’s just me, no one else knows what’s going on, that’s why we must expose this, but that’s wrong. Some people do know what is going on, and when I say some people, I believe a large majority of some people.

People know some of the stuff that is going on. Most times they don’t think that I do. (I don’t feel that I can go into more details here.) However with the vibrating floors, they were falling asleep and not loving the heat, it’s funny for me it was a break from my apartment which on any given day had to be 10 times worst than what was happening there.

Another time when this was happening at said job, one of the co-workers showed me that when it happens, you just stand up, like this. (That’s the part where you can’t actually pretend that they don’t know what’s happening, but you also can’t ask any questions, or rather, I just choose not to.) There was more, but I don’t want to go into too much of this.

The other job, I really don’t remember much outside of the snitching. I was there way too briefly to observe much outside of that.

[b]Other Targets[/b]

Other things. At one job, I mentioned that there was another person who was also a target. I think I have blogged about some aspects of that before, if not then I will leave out the details in this post. However at that same job there was a third person there, and I was starting to suspect that stuff was ongoing with this person, but this person was really scared a lot of the time, however there was a specific instance, that lead me to this belief.

Along the way as a target, I have told you about some of my conversations with the police officers, some helpful some not.

Also as far as finding other targets, I mentioned the person at the one job, also the woman who was apartment hunting when I was, and she was experiencing the same stuff.

People that I worked with, one person had to sell their business and move into a below ground apartment. I believe that had to do with the electromagnetic harassment. Also this person would refer to the weird end of the world stuff that was happening.

People that I worked with that I know were forced to take part in what was going on, one person looked scared out of his mind as I saw him participating, very much against his will.

People that I am associated with, one person was going through similar stuff, and was complaining about it, years before I even realised it was ongoing in my life.
(Yes I did think this person was a little bit off at the time, I mean this person was saying that people were coming into the house and changing stuff around. It sounded crazy and at the time, I just thought the person maybe was mistaken, but I did leave an open mind. Now I see that this happens to more people than I realise. This person is also now getting electronically harassed.)

There are other things, but you get to the stage where you are like, it’s not just me. This has been the hardest part to wrap my mind around. It’s not just me. Even when I first came online and found out about Gang Stalking, I was like wow this happens to other people?
What I am seeing and experiencing offline, is a much more common phenomenon, much more widespread, and much more awareness. The Civilian Spies know they are Civilian Spies, some realise exactly what’s going on, some don’t know, or don’t seem to realise how widespread this is. There seems to be quite a few people being kept in line this way, controlled this way, conformed this way.

If you are not aware of it, it will sound crazy to you, it would have sounded crazy to me, but you have to experience it to believe it.

Rumours, and the reason that they seem to like the system. They are all connected. That means that if you are a target and person A says something about you, that information even if and when it’s false can go out throughout the whole Civilian Spy/Snitch system. You might never hear back what is being said, but everyone else does and the zombies will act on that information, true or not true. Remember the following articles.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/08/14/news/korea.php

(Did anyone ever stop to wonder how information about this person in a few short weeks made it out to his school, work, community so much so that he had to quit his school, job, and his family had to move?)

http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB116855242776974364-OeszoAs0Sa3YsO80IOEwzj7Vfg8_20080112.html?mod=blogs

[quote][b]The digital age allows critics to quickly find a fair amount of information about their targets.[/b] One day last November, at about 11:30 a.m., a blog focused on making New York streets more bike-friendly posted the license plate number of an SUV driver who allegedly accelerated from a dead stop to hit a bicycle blocking his way.

At 1:16 p.m., someone posted the registration information for the license plate, including the SUV owner’s name and address. (The editor of the blog thinks the poster got the information from someone who had access to a license-plate look-up service, available to lawyers, private investigators and police.) At 1:31 p.m., another person added the owner’s occupation, his business’s name and his title. Ten minutes later, a user posted a link to an aerial photo of the owner’s house. Within another hour, the posting also included the accused’s picture and email address.

The SUV’s owner, Ian Goldman, the chief executive of Celerant Technology Corp. in the New York City borough of Staten Island, declined to comment for this article. According to an email exchange posted on the blog, Mr. Goldman said that he had lent the vehicle in question to a relative with “an urgent medical situation” and that he was not aware of any incident. The alleged victim has decided to drop the matter since the damage to the bicycle, which he was standing next to at the time, was under $20. Last month, Aaron Naparstek, editor of the blog, says he removed Mr. Goldman’s home and email addresses from the site after receiving a “lawyerly cease and desist” email asking that the whole posting be deleted.
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Again these people are organised, the above two examples are just a few of many. Other examples of how this information network works and how fast it travels. Between cellphone, text messaging and what have you, these people are and can be more aware of your life than you are.

In my own situation I have seen rumours start in the workplace, and I can tell you that people along the way, know your business, true or not true. The other thing is, if you are a target and not a part of this snitch network, you often times are out of the loop and will not hear stuff back, or at all. You might never have a clue about what is being said or put out there about you, and thus have no way to defend yourself. The other thing that I find humorous somewhat, is that the Snitches then expect you to know what is being said about you, and feel justified in their actions that they take.

Eg. My most recent job, my P.A.M. I realised was starting one rumour after another, and what I did figure out, I tried to correct, but to no avail. People on the Snitch network of social friends, believe and trust other snitches. Why should they not, they are all the same thing. So really after figuring out that there was something afoot, and trying to get it corrected, I just gave up, because at the end of the day, people will believe what they want to believe. It’s a wasteful process. Doesn’t mean you can’t try, but just realise what you are dealing with.

So you have at the end of the day, a society that is built on secrecy, people will cover things up, and they will keep their mouths shut for years, open secrets that are not really secrets. When they come out, you are almost amazed that they stayed covered up for so long but they did. The nice thing is sometimes these things do come out, but from what I have seen it often does not change things and these people just learn to cover their tracks better.

Eg. Children being abused by Priests, have you truly ever wondered how that was just not talked about, and yet so many people knew and there were so many victims, yet it remained a secret for how many decades?

Child sexual abuse, happens to so many apparently, but this was also something that was not discussed or talked about.

You would think this new openness would change all this stuff right? All that has happened with the church thing is that new cases now have to go through the Church before they can be prosecuted, now you can’t get at them locally, it has to go through the Vatican first. Now it’s easier to get away with molesting young kids. Also the church routinely let’s Priest hold up at or around the Vatican in Rome, for sanctuary.

Molesters now use online services to group molest children, and in the digital age, parents are not smarter or more careful with their children. The predators get smarter and society seems to think that because this stuff is out in the open, they no longer have to have their guards up. Don’t anyone wonder how they can have hundreds of thousands of kids in pictures, in poses, doing stuff, where are the parents? Where is the guard that society is now suppose to be on?

Kids are still molested in their homes, and in many cases the conspiracy of silence still continues. Cause that’s what society is good at.

Civilian Spies, have been around for over a hundred years, snitches go back far into history. Even as this gets exposed, and you realise like I have on some level that it’s not just me. It won’t change this. I mean for a time it will, but only long enough to teach these people how to better cover their darkness.

Control, conformity, corruption can happen out in public and that is the best place for it. We have a society of secrecy happening, if you don’t know, you likely will not believe, I know I could not have a year and a half ago, I would have argued it into the ground. Even now that I know or realise on some level, it’s hard to deal with. There is not a day that I don’t shake my head, and wonder how they can go along with it. I know the answer in many ways, fear, power, conformity, fitting in, and ofcourse the secrecy of it all. That silence that let’s you be a part of something great, and the penalty for revealing what you know. Be it being socially annexed, or also Gang Stalked and Electronically Harassed. It’s just another society where you know the rules, spoken or unspoken. First rule of stalk club, you don’t talk about stalk club, second rule of stalk club, you don’t talk about stalk club.

Anyways that’s the post.

Mark is right when he says it’s not a subset of society, but I don’t know if he realises that this seems to be just how society is. The ones that are not in the know, really don’t know. I didn’t. The ones that do know, know how to keep their mouths shut, and they don’t step out of line.

You have smaller group examples of this, the military and hazing, churches and cults stalking people who leave, other subsets of society where secrecy is a must, but then there is society, where it’s a society of secrecy. Even if and when this get’s exposed and talked about, the light will not shine for very long, these people can cover their darkness so well, because they put it out there almost right into the open. That’s the weird part that I understand on one level, but still can’t come to terms with on another.

February 24, 2008 Posted by | blue-wall, Censorship, Citizen Informants, Civilian Spies, Controlled society, Corruption, domestic spying, Electronic harassment, Gang Stalking, Gangstalking, government corruption, harassment, Ignorance, judas, Masons, mental-salves, Mind Control, Movies, New World Order, NWO, Online Stalking, oppression, Police State, Scientologists, silence, slavery, slaves, Snitches, society, Spying, Stalking, Stasi, Stop snitching, whistle blower | Leave a comment

Refute

Refuting the text of Judas and the de vinci code, as false.

Does anyone actually still read the bible? I woke up today with the surest conviction, that the de vinci code and the Judas text were false and should be refuted as such. I have never given either any credence previously, to require refuting, but today I felt it was required. Apparently some may have been confused or deceived by one or both.

1. The Judas text, let’s just think it through. If he was so asked by Jesus to betray him as the text apparently claims, then why would he still need 30 pieces of silver to do it? I mean if he was fulfilling a divine request, then much like other that had gone before, he probably would not need 30 pieces of silver to do this.

Also at the end of this, if Jesus was asking him to betray him, then Judas would have known the exact outcome of his actions, he would have known his betrayal would lead to the ultimate death of Jesus. It seems when he realised they were going to kill Jesus is when he went back and tried to return the pieces of silver. Being unable to live with the consequences of his actions he killed himself.

So just think about it logically. If you knew your purpose was to betray a man, unto his death, would you need the 30 pieces of silver to inspire your divine mission? Then let’s say your divine mission is to get someone killed, you accomplish the mission, why then do an about face? Cause you feel guilty? Then Judas tries to return the blood money, and then goes and kills himself, cause he felt bad? If this is what he was asked to do why would you then go back and question it? Or even try to return the silver that he had accepted to betray Jesus in the first place?

2. A work of fiction. With claims that Jesus was married, survived crucifixion, and had a child and was in no way divine?

The goal being to eventually tie in Jesus with some modern day bloodline.

I have come across nothing in the reading of the word that gives any credence to any of these assertions, therefore I do refute them as false.

What I have come across is a resurrected Jesus who visits the disciples and others, who attest to the crucifixion wounds in his hands and feet. I think a resurrection seems a pretty divine event.

The rest though it would change very little, is never mentioned or asserted to. Mary M. does seem to follow him around, and after his death she is one of the first to see him, and addresses him as teacher, but nothing more and nothing less.

Seems like this is one more disinfo. The goal seems to be to remove Jesus from the picture. His works, life, history and his eventual existence if they have the chance to. Once that is done, what will be left? It will be a free passage to over take humanity.

In every time period when people have gone through adverse times they have had their faith, belief in God, a higher power, and hope in things to come. If you attack the source, the foundation of that, and strip that from people’s minds, and their belief systems, then they will have no weapon, no power against evil, and is that not the eventual goal?

September 3, 2007 Posted by | devinci code, Jesus, judas, Refute | Leave a comment