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The US vs John Lennon

I was really surprised after watching this movie. I know about the Beatles, and then I knew some things about John and Yoko Ono, but I had no idea about the full extent of his harassment by the US government.

This was a really eye opening movie. During my research into Gang Stalking I realised that John Lennon was just one more person who had complained about some of the things that Gang Stalking targets complain about. Wire taps, harassment, being followed around in public overtly by strangers, but I had no idea how much he was harassed.

I mean you think that he was famous, rich, etc and so he could avoid these problems, but that’s so far from the truth. When you watch this movie, it’s nothing like that, and the movie really humanizes him.

Apparently he became a real anti-war activist during the Vietnam war. That time period is a lot like this one except people protested back then, and we still protest now, but not as much. Music was allowed to have an influence, and now if you read the book “the covert war on rock,” it does not have that same chance that it once did.
He fought to stay in the US for 5 years. Apparently his very simple and innocent anti-war stance upset then president Nixon and he got the political machine in gear against Lennon and sought to destroy him. Like this machine constantly does, it looks for vulnerabilities and came up with an immigration rap. Sounds familiar. They were really trying to kick him out of the country for 5 years of his life. Finally he got fed up and he sued them. His lawyer thought that he didn’t have a chance in hell, but he was able to prove presidential interference in his affairs.

Then the Watergate scandal broke, Nixon resigned, and then him and Yoko and Sean had a semi normal family life, then he was assassinated.

The movie is pretty self explanatory and it matches the pattern that has been seen before. It’s really eye opening, because you think that people like Britney Spears, and other stars would be untouchable to things like this, but this just shows that they are not.

In many ways they are average and vulnerable like the rest of the population. I think we know that on some level, but this movie really put things into perspective.

Here are a couple of quotes from the movie that I found interesting. There are a few more, but these were interesting to me.

{One more thing about John Lennon, it seems off topic, but he reported that he saw a flying saucer, sounds out there, but in reading about other events that have been under surveillance, there was also another report of flying sauces over a rally that was most likely under surveillance, where they reported the same thing. He thought it was a something positive at the time, but it’s just something interesting to note.}
Direct quote from the movie.

“His activities were being monitored. He says that he thinks that they wanted him to notice. He was scared paranoid.”

“He believed all of his telephone conversations were being monitored.

He believed that he was being followed  around New York City.

He believed that friends that he had thought were friends were secret Informants for different intelligence communities. ”

“Another effect of the Sinclair thing was it probably further alerted the FBI, John Mitchell, Holdermin,  ?, and Nixon that something needed to be done to neutralize John Lennon. ”

 

“When it gets down to having to use violence then you are playing the systems games. The establishment irritates you, pull your beard and flick your face to make you fight, because once they have you violent then they know how to handle you. ”
It’s interesting that Markus Wolf takes credit for perfecting the concept of the Romeo Spy, but even as far as back then, it was not above the American government to implement the same techniques. Just a thought.

Anyways the movie is really good. The music in the movie really shows his progress as an artist. I understand a lot more about him now, and it’s a real eye opener. It shows that things did not change that much, they in fact seem to just have expanded the techniques and methods to others. It really puts things into perspective. At times when watching the movie, you could not help but juxtaposition what was happening in this era with the wars from that time period, Vietnam and Cambodia and anti-war movement, just interesting.

http://www.gangstalkingworld.com/Social/article.php?sid=161

I had forgotten this, but even back then there was governmental cooperation, between Canada and the US in regards to spying on citizens. Along with the FBI, the RCMP in Canada were also spying on John Lennon.

[quote]The RCMP advised U.S. officials the radio programming was intended to help promote the planned Mosport event. The Mounties noted the venue had been vetoed by the Ontario Municipal Board and “at the present time it is not certain whether the ‘festival’ will proceed at some other location.”

The ambitious musical event collapsed under the weight of organizational disputes.

Lennon’s rabble-rousing activism of the early 1970s drew the attention of the FBI, which like the RCMP spied on numerous left-wing individuals and groups suspected of subversion.

A memo to the FBI director, noting enclosure of the RCMP correspondence, carries the subject line, “New Left – Foreign influence – Canada.”

The FBI records were released under the U.S. Freedom of Information Act in response to a request from California history professor Jon Wiener, who waged a long legal fight for disclosure. Some material in the FBI file remains classified.
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Maybe all these countries did was invite more players to the game with their community policing programs and anti terror laws. The movie is worthwhile watching.

December 13, 2008 - Posted by | Awareness, Beatles, CIA, Citizen Informants, Civilian Spies, Cointelpro, community policing, Covert investigations, domestic spying, Gang Stalking, Gangstalking, John Lennon, past, present, revolution, Spying, Stalking, Stasi, State target, Surveillence, Targeted Individual | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , ,

3 Comments »

  1. Research request: please respond: you posted the following quote from The US Vs. John Lennon: “When it gets down to having to use violence then you are playing the systems games. The establishment irritates you, pull your beard and flick your face to make you fight, because once they have you violent then they know how to handle you. “ You do not explicitly say who is being quoted here, and several proceeding quotes are about, rather than by, J.L. It’s now being attributed to him. Can you confirm whether this was John Lennon saying this in the movie? (I have it on order but I would rather not wait until it arrives). Thanks, tzf

    Comment by Tim Z Falconer | October 27, 2011 | Reply


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