Energy
Ok so the dreams continue. I think I have had the odd break through, but it might just have been lucid dreaming so it’s hard to tell, but if only for a split second, I think I have been able to get back what was lost, so though this stuff is still happening with the programed dreams, it may not be permanent, I just have to find a way to stop it.
Energy
What I realised about the dreams is that they are being as I mentioned before controlled. I have in the the electronic manipulation of the nervous system happening, which means vibrations are constantly being used to manipulate my dream emotions. Fear is the main thing that is pumped into the dreams, even when it does not make sense, that is the emotion that is pumped into the dreams.
http://www.targetedindividuals.com/subliminal-acoustic-manipulation-of-nervous-systems/
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In human subjects, sensory resonances can be excited by subliminal atmospheric acoustic pulses that are tuned to the resonance frequency. The 1/2 Hz sensory resonance affects the autonomic nervous system and may cause relaxation, drowsiness, or sexual excitement, depending on the precise acoustic frequency near 1/2 Hz used.
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It’s almost like when I can get my vibrations in order, and I am just starting to vibrate at a higher frequency, it’s like they try to reacquire me with this stuff. Bring down my vibrational frequency, try to direct it to a fear based vibration, where the energy is blocked and it does not flow, where I am unhappy and the joy is stolen from my dreams, and heart. That is what they seem to be trying to do, so the idea is to block this and learn to do so while sleeping. I like learning new things, so I guess I have a lot ahead of me.
The Lame Dreams
I thought I had started to get control of these, but I have not, it’s an uphill battle, but what I have discovered is that these lame dreams are being used to hide things, to mask things, they are being used to cover what is really happening. The people, things and characters in the dreams are for the most part, none entities, used to mask the behind the scenes stuff. There is no attachment, when I finish dreaming they are hardly even remembered, and even though I was getting so lonely I started to almost accept the dreams, I still don’t’ cause they are not mine. It’s like eating ice cubes and trying to pretend you have had a wholesome meal. It’s not happening.
The Real Dreams
Behind the fake dreams are the real scenes. Again when I break through the fear of the dreams, when I connect with the real emotions, then the images or dream memories start to come, the real dreams.
The real dream scenes some still involve scenes with a handler that I hate and despise. Still beat downs for control. Still I am all too aware of the person who set this sick stuff up, and other things they have arranged, aside from the mind control programing. I have just put this person down to being a psychopath. Some people think that this person is just a pathological liar, but I am pretty sure this person falls into the category of psychopath, cause they just do the same actions over and over again, and have very limited remorse for what is being done. Those are my feelings and thoughts in the dream.
Aside from the key players, I get bits and pieces of places being mentioned in my dreams. Eg.
U.S. Army Medical Research Institute Of Infectious Diseases.
I am familiar with the name, cause I researched Ebola some years ago, but the implication of the dream is that they might be infecting people with infectious diseases, to see how one person handles the onset of one thing vs another, and if some can cure themselves. Again this is all happening on a dream level, but who knows, I would not put it past some of these people to be conducting real life experiments on people. Very interesting dream, and this came out of the blue, cause it’s been like a decade or more since I researched Ebola. Yes things from a long time can come back in dreams, but this again feels very different and worth mentioning.
There are still these spiritual facilities set up, that match their earthly counterparts. I still get the feeling that this type of remote spiritual programing is used remotely on more members of society than we know. That’s what I take away from these dreams.
I get the feeling that many have no idea or memories and never will, that this has been done to them. Remember the dreams, the real dream images are repressed often by fake images, fake dreams. Or they will use animals to mask entire scenes of what has happened.
Eg. I thought I was seeing a slimy creature with red eyes in the dream right, but when I really examined the image more in the dream, I unearthed that it was hiding a whole entire dream sequence a real one, with a handler, and I was able to recall everything that the dream creature was protecting. It was used to block a whole dream sequence that had happened, and I could see, feel, and know everything that had been done, in that dream sequence that had been previously blocked.
So think about how many of these abductees, recall flashes of light, which I get from time to time, in the dream. How many of them see animals like owls, and other creatures, and is it not possible that these are used to lock in dream sequences that they just do not recall?
Also early on in one of the faux dreams, just before I work up, they tried to flash a very real craft like image in front of my eyes. Even in the dream I was like, are you kidding me? That is not actually going to work on me. They branded me a skeptic and decided they would not go this route. If I had been easily influenced or manipulated I am pretty sure I would have been having abductee dreams, but that has not happened. Instead I get the lame dreams, which are pointless, unfulfilling, draining, and they mask quite a bit of real dreams, and scenarios, which tend to have a lot of real life previously unknown terms, places, etc.
In the dream my mind has been compartmentalized and accessible by words, or images but I am doing what I can to fix this issue. In the dream the local losers have become aware of this, and trying to take advantage of the programing, that or they have been instructed to, this part is not clear yet.
What I find however and this is the take away that I get from the dreams. I find that vibrational frequencies are very important. I believe that much like you have psychic vampires who feed on people in the awake state, that humans can be feed upon in the dream state, and you can control where they go, and to a degree what they dream, by controlling specific vibrational frequencies. Considering the important role that dreams play in the consciousness of human kind, this is akeen to playing God, and I hope that more will come out about this in future months.
As I mentioned before, I believe that a lot of these abduction experiences are just remote mind control programing, with handlers. I think the people could be remembering these experiences as real, but in many cases it’s just an astral experience, which would seem 100% real if someone had never experienced it before. Is it possible that the U.S. and other governments have gotten so advanced that they are able to condition people in their sleep, to control their minds, to subliminally program them on an astral/spiritual level? Why not, they had programs where people were astral projecting, remote viewing and a bunch of other psi stuff that the public does not want to believe.
The Real X-files. CIA remote viewing program.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7371160296945984442#
It might have been removed from google?
If it’s possible that the technology is this advanced and has been for a while, then what might be going on in society, how many people have been remotely programed at a distance?
http://gangstalkingworld.com/john-st-clair-akwei-vs-nasa/
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Detecting EMF fields in humans for surveillanceA subject’s bioelectric field can be remotely detected, so subjects can be monitored anywhere they are. With special EMF equipment, NSA cryptologists can remotely read evoked potentials (from EEGs). These can be decoded into a person’s brain-states and thoughts. The subject is then perfectly monitored from a distance.
NSA personnel can dial up any individual in the country on the Signals lntelligence EMF scanning network and the NSA’s computers will then pinpoint and track that person 24 hours-a-day. The NSA can pick out and track anyone in the U.S.
NSA’s Signals Intelligence use of EMF brain stimulation
NSA Signals Intelligence uses EMF brain stimulation for Remote Neural Monitoring (RNM) and Electronic Brain Link (EBL). EMF Brain Stimulation has been in development since the MK Ultra program of the early 1950′s, which included neurological research into “radiation” (non-ionizing EMF) and bioelectric research and development.
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Tracking a person via their emf fields. Brain mapping technology that allows you to map a persons mind, but at a distance.
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The NSA has proprietary electronic equipment that analyzes electrical activity in humans from a distance. NSA computer-generated brain mapping can monitor all the electrical activity in the brain continuously. The NSA records aid decodes individual brain maps (of hundreds of thousands of persons) for national security purposes. EMF Brain Stimulation is also secretly used by the military for Brain-to-computer link (in military fighter aircraft, for example).For electronic surveillance purposes, electrical activity in the speech center of the brain can be translated into the subject’s verbal thoughts. RNM can send encoded signals to the brain’s auditory cortex thus allowing audio communication direct to the brain (bypassing the ears). NSA operatives can use this to covertly debilitate subjects by simulating auditory hallucinations, characteristic of paranoid schizophrenia.
Without any contact with the subject, Remote Neural Monitoring can map out electrical activity from the visual cortex of a subject’s brain and show images from the subject’s brain on a video monitor. NSA operatives see what the surveillance subject’s eyes are seeing. Visual memory can also be seen. RNM can send images direct to the visual cortex, bypassing the eyes and optic nerves. NSA operatives can use this to surreptitiously put images in a surveillance subject’s brain while they are in R.E.M. sleep for brain-programming purposes.
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Remember it’s been claimed that this stuff has been available for decades. The lawsuit that brought this technology to light was almost 20 years ago, and this is a person who worked for the agency, and I think with this technology.
If this is being used remotely and at a distance on people, how many people in society might not even be aware that such programing has been used on them until it’s too late?
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Capabilities of NSA operatives using RNMThere has been a Signals Intelligence network in the U.S. since the 1940′s. The NSA, Ft. Meade, has in place a vast two-way wireless RNM system which is used to track subjects and non-invasively monitor audio-visual information in their brain. This is all done with no physical contact with the subject. RNM is the ultimate method of surveillance and domestic intelligence. Speech, 3D sound, and subliminal audio can be sent to the auditory cortex of the subject’s brain (bypassing the ears), and images can be sent into the visual cortex. RNM can alter a subject’s perceptions, moods, and motor control.
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There are so many things that are unknown, things the general public would rather not believe, things that would shatter their sense of reality if they accepted that governments have such technology, that governments were capable of such cruel inventions, and that the ultimate goal might well be to use this technology on an unsuspecting subject to keep everyone in line, or some elite members of society could use the programing to control those around them, spouses, kids, business associates, those who get elected to public office, the possibilities are endless, and because it’s all done remotely, the average person who is so programed already anyways would be hardly aware.
If this technology does in fact exist in the real world, and this lawsuit says that it does, then what are the questions we should be asking ourselves? Who could be using and abusing the technology, and what can we do to curtail the damages being done to society?
My main take away is that the human will if we have things that are stronger, deeper, things that go deeper than any programing than humans can devise can go, then the human will, the human spirit will not be broken, it will not be subjugated. A lot of what happens in the world has to do with specific vibrational frequencies, and if we as a society could raise our frequencies, break away from the television and other programs, we give our sense a chance to rise above what might be getting planned for us. I know for me that in these dreams, my deep spiritual programing, my Christianity has helped a great deal, for others it might be a different faith, or a deeper sense of self, but I do believe that if we hold strong, there are some wills that will not be broken, some minds that will not be bent, at least not forever, and I believe at my core that the human spirit can rise and conquer things like this.
That’s my take away from these dreams, and you are welcome to add your thoughts and comments.
Marry for love
Duty comes and goes, but marry for love if you can. A lot of times depending on your situation in the world, you might feel that a choice has to be made, and sometimes choices are made, cause you feel that it’s your duty, but sometimes those choices are the wrong choices.
Go with the option that you can live with. Sometimes based on your race, status, religion, gender, a choice will have to be made, do you marry the one you love, or do you do what is right for those around you that you feel that you have a duty to?
What can you live with? Some can choose love over duty and honor and are very happy. Sometime sticking to your guns will win you the person that you choose to be with, sometimes you will have to lose everything to make that choice. I recently had a chance to review some regal romances and marriages. Some where love was chosen over duty. Others where duty was chosen over happiness, which did not end well. Others where duty was eventually defied, and love was chosen which in some ways seems to be working out very well.
Though I believe we have many life times to get it right, and sometimes we do have requirements of those around us to me, we also have self requirements. I think you owe it to yourself not only to choose someone that will make those around you happy in the long term, but also someone that will make you happy in the long term. If you can take a chance and find something that meets both categories that’s great, if not you need to figure out what you can live with.
Search your soul, man up or woman up your reserves and then see if you have what it takes to do the right thing. This will be different for each situation. Some situations it will mean walking away from all that you know and love, other situations it will mean defiance to a high degree.
I think many earthbound souls come to earth to search for love, or a past soul mate, or correct something that did not work itself out in the past. I believe it’s possible to correct mistakes that were made, but I believe it’s all too possible to make the same mistakes again. Try your best to find out what works.
Yes not a Gang Stalking related post, but a seat of the soul post, and I think one was needed.
Change
I was just thinking about how society adapts and gets comfortable with new principles. concepts and ideas. Throughout history there have been ideas, concepts that once seemed taboo, forbidden, and those same ideas, concepts, social norms are now common and everyday. From controversy in science, where you could not say that the earth was not the center of the universe, to Christianity being a banned religion, then being adapted and taken over by the church of Rome. We saw racial practices in America and other societies go from being the norm, to getting slowly overturned, in some cases.
Years ago interracial dating was much more difficult than it is today for many in today’s society. I am not trying to imply that it’s always easy for couples, but for many in today’s society it’s easier than it was just 30-50 years ago. Many would not even think twice about dating someone outside of their race, but there are still cultural taboos in some cultures.
In a not too far distant past, a royal marrying a commoner would have been unheard of or meant giving up the thrown. Classicism was very much in existence, and families at times did terrible things to ensure that those boundaries remained in tact. Today it’s not that uncommon to see those barriers broken down, and wealthy individuals dating and marrying outside of their wealth and class structure.
At one time it was the norm for women to work in the home. Having the wife work outside of the home, was not thought of, even if the family was in dire straights, the man made the money and that is all that there was to it. Today women regularly work outside of the home, and many are the bread winners for the family. Society hardly thinks or blinks twice about women in the workforce, but just 30-40 short years ago, that is not the way things were.
Discussing groups like the mafia, Illuminati, unheard of. In fact both groups were said not to exist at some point in the past. Even discussing some cults, and street gangs was not as openly done as it is now in today’s society.
http://www.bestofsicily.com/mafia.htm
Now talk of the Mafia is common, there have been movies, even a T.V. show about how this organization functions. Talk of groups such as the bilderbergs, Illuminati and so forth was a conspiracy theory. They did not exist, discussions were laughed at, but not this has changes and discussions about their membership, practices, etc, are becoming more common. It should also be noted that the reason such groups were not outed is in part because they asked for the assistance and discression of the mainstream media outlets, and as a reward heads of those media outlets were allowed to attend their meetings.
They are now mentioned on news shows such as CNN, on T.V. programs, their mention is now a part of common culture.
Discussions of childhood sex abuse though widespread at one point, was a forbidden topic, so were the abuses by the catholic church, now today discussions of both are very common. Again where talk of such was taboo, and might even have had the victim excommunicated from society today talk is all too common. Did these changes come about overnight? Oh no, many of these changes took years, and cost many people their lives. At the time these events were happening they created mini frenzied attitudes in society. People died, were arrested, socially annexed, but those who stuck it out, and survived slowly brought about change in society.
Societies attitude changed, and in time, they looked poorly on mistreating women who wanted to work outside of the home, those who wanted to date outside of their race (in some cases.), those who wanted to date outside of their class system (in some cases).
Today’s society is not that dissimilar to the old Roman empire and occupied Jerusalem where Christianity was introduced. People have taboos that they do not wish to change. The system has always been one way and they don’t want to have it changed. Jesus in his time, went up against an established system. He taught the people that those in authority were corrupt. He showed the people a better way to live, how to truly follow the true essence of the law. For his effort at time he encountered rumours, slander, death threats, and attempts on his life, betrayal by some friends, false arrest, fake trial, and death on a cross.
The people wanted change, but when truth came they let it be nailed to a cross, while letting real criminal like Barabbus go free, cause he was one of theirs. They were not willing to fight for their freedom from the spiritually occupying forces at that time, and so their bonds remained. Things have not change that much. People think that they are better educated. Many think oh if I was in such and such a time period I would have acted differently. I would not have betrayed Jesus, or I would not have harassed those people, or been too blind to see that the earth is not the center of the universe. Many people seem to think that they would have acted differently, and maybe some would. From what I can see people bring the same attitudes and mentalities to each time period, then the struggle has to start all over again.
In this time period the struggle is to expose a system, which is allowing a lot of corruption. As per history, those in the time period are not likely to see the faults and if they do, they are likely to do little to bring about the change, if the system is working for them. It’s only if things get uncomfortable, or the corruption gets so bad, that social attitudes change, only then will things change.
Gang stalking, Mobbing, Bullying
Collusion
The collusion that has been happening in society that Tim Field and others looked into happened in my opinion because of this system that is currently in place. Most targets who complained about the collusion that they found in their lives were probably targeted by this system. They were probably on a community notification list, and these notifications are used not only as a type of blacklisting at the lower levels, but the same way that our lives are interfered with at lower levels, it’s the same at higher levels.
This means at tribunals, all types of court appearances, lawyers, judges, etc. The same way that clients are persuaded, blocked, or bullied from working with targets at lower levels, are the same collusion’s, that are happening at higher levels.
This targeting is systemic. Those that are a part of this system see it as their job to run interference for those that are targeted by this system. The same way they see it as their job to do other illegal and socially unacceptable actions.
http://www.bullyonline.org/action/obstruct.htm
[/quote]Collusion, corruption, oath of allegiance
Many targets of bullying report that they seem to be obstructed every step of the way in their pursuit of justice. The management refuse to investigate, or use an untrained investigator, or whitewash the case. The union refuses to help, or initially shows interest but suddenly changes sides. The solicitor initially shows interest but then starts acting in a manner which suggests they have the other side’s interests at heart rather than yours.
The employer’s lawyers apply for, and obtain, adjournment after adjournment, then obtain a pre-hearing review which the tribunal chairman handles in favour of the employer. In the tribunal, favour is shown to the respondent (employer) and you get the impression that the verdict has been decided in advance. Your solicitor, the respondent’s lawyers and the tribunal chairman seem to know more about your case than you think they should.
After the tribunal you’re left with no option but to privately sue the employer, the union, and your solicitor, and appeal the tribunal decision, but by this time you have no job, no income, your savings are gone, so is your health, maybe your marriage too, and there’s no prospect of ever being employed again, especially in the professions.
Sound familiar? If so, you might be surprised to realise how often this happens.
Although there’s never any substantive proof, it seems that all the parties arrayed against you have been colluding in secret. The question is, what allegiance binds these individuals together, and where could they meet such that the normal rules of confidentiality do not apply? What fraternal obligation places their duty to support and protect each other above the moral, ethical and legal obligations by which the rest of us are bound?
Employers, unions, law firms, and employees of the justice system are part of society, and every group, professional or otherwise, contains a few poor performers and rotten apples. This ranges from inexperience through ineptitude and incompetence to collusion and corruption
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At the time of this writing, I believe Tim Field might have believed he was looking at some type of secret fraternity, or brotherhood, that was responsible for this collusion. Though I fully agree that in the U.K. and other places that this has been a problem and still is, I think there is something else that could be responsible.
How could lawyers, tribunals and judges be persuaded to turn against clients? What motivation could there be? What most did not realise at the time is that this system is acting the part of a fraternity, a brotherhood, a secret society if you will, and the individuals that are a part of this system will do what they are told to do or asked to do in most cases.
http://www.crvawc.ca/documents/WorkplaceHarassmentandViolencereport.pdf
This report also discusses the collusion that many found themselves a part of. The women in this report had complained about workplace harassment, and found the same type of collusion in their lives. Their harassers were promoted. Unions did not wish to provide assistance, or they took the side of the harassers. Lawyers who were happy to help at first seemed to turn on those they were hired to help, seemed to drop cases, or even worst seemed to be working for the other side. How could such a thing be happening?
Similar would happen to Anita Belle when she tried to take the government to task for importing drugs into minority communities. Mrs. Belle would be disbarred, forced to move from America, to Canada, then to Israel. She is now after many years back in the United States, but does not seem to be practicing law.
I would see the same collusion in my own life when I first tried to file my complaint. That is part of what lead me on this journey to discover what was happening in society. What is happening is in my opinion stranger than fiction, and harder to believe than anything that I have ever encountered.
This system is being used in and of itself as a sort of secret society, they protect and do favors for those that are a part of it. Keep the members in line via bullying, intimidation, or by giving them perks. It’s a conspiracy in and of itself, but it’s one that much of society is a part of.
Gang Stalking, Mobbing, Bullying
From what I have observed, there is strong reason to believe that many of the targets of these practices are not a part of this system. For the time being I am calling it, and referring to it as a notification system, but it’s much more than that. This is a system that has been in place for a really long time. It goes all the way back, and those born will eventually be absorbed into it, and thus it continues. It’s used to control and regulate society. It removes those that step out of line, or those who will not fall in line.
The members of this system have a mentality that it’s ok, almost mandatory at times to pick on or harass those who are not a part of this system. It seems that many of them are under the false impression that everyone is or should be a part of this system. The reality is there are some, that are not aware of this system, thus not a part of it. That seems to matter very little to these individuals. It’s a cult mentality and a very dangerous one for those not a part of this system.
Slavery
The way the system functions and forces some of it’s members to take part in this system, to be a part of this borg like entity is nothing better than slavery.
For many however it does not fit their traditional definition of slavery and thus they do not see the system for what it is. In fact many of them would willing protect it.
They are born into this system, grow up in this system, and most will become a part of this system. I see them everyday, unquestioning, obedient, controlled, they do what they are told. They don’t question why people have to be a part of this structure, and most would not dream of stepping out of this structure. They believe that it protects them. It’s the 5 monkeys in a cage scenario, and it’s the way it’s always been done, and so they continue right along supporting a system, that basically is what outsiders would call bondless slavery.
It’s not slavery for the body, it’s conditioning and control of the mind to the extent that most actually believe that this system is what keeps them free, when in fact it’s what hold them in place as slaves.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0133093/quotes
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Morpheus: The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you’re inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.
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Morpheus: The Matrix is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work… when you go to church… when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.
Neo: What truth?
Morpheus: That you are a slave, Neo. Like everyone else you were born into bondage. Into a prison that you cannot taste or see or touch. A prison for your mind.
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In my opinion, the worst form of slavery is when you do not know that you are bound. When you actually believe that you are free, but you are not. Each person has to come to this realisation on their own. It’s not something that others can make you see, you have to see it, feel it, and experience it for yourself.
Will it ever change? As long as people are just comfortable enough, just distracted enough, with their gadgets and ipads, soothed and comforted, lulled into a false sense of reality, then they will never try to leave their slavery. They will cling to it the way a newborn clings to it’s mother. It feeds them, nourishes them, comforts them, but it also enslaves them, and until they are ready to see it, you are just wasting your time. For those who do see it, understand it, and want to change it, it’s the worst hell, because once you understand, there is no way to go back to the false reality that you came from. You just can not see it any other way.
http://rlv.zcache.com/community_notifications_and_gang_stalking_flyer-p2448387195957324182dope_525.jpg
Paranoid Propaganda
https://gangstalking.wordpress.com/2008/12/20/paranoid/
Please read the above post.
I made this into a full post, because I very firmly feel that whenever accusations of this kind come up, they must be addressed and set where they belong. A poster from the forum, found my blog posting, and left a comment. Now maybe the poster left it for good, as useful feedback, or maybe it’s just another informant, who is trying to make Gang Stalking sites look like they encourage delusions. As I have said before in dealing with now hundreds if not thousands of people who have come through the site, the long term feedback has been that they feel validated, most knew that something was happening, but did not know what. Some considered crazy as an option, but crazy did not match what they were seeing and most are people who kept looking for other answers to what was happening to them.
I don’t know what the situation was like in Russia when the state started saying that dissidents were crazy. I imagine that many tried to prove that they were not, and tried to also expose what was happening. I do know that in Russia part of what got the abuses exposed were target telling their stories, till there were enough that people started listening. I believe that targets must do similar if they are going to be heard and expose what our governments are now doing.
https://gangstalking.wordpress.com/2009/11/10/too-much-truth/
[quote]I am a member of that forum. The member being gangstalked that you mentioned has said that she is a diagnosed schizophrenic who doesn’t want to take her medication. I assume that you haven’t read any threads posted by her other than the gangstalking one. She said she is being gangstalked by evil or negative energies because she knows who the antichrist is. You were banned because you unknowningly reinforced her delusions.[/quote]
This is the reason the account was banned.
Gangstalking, stop spamming with your links. You seem to be here on a propaganda mission. We don’t allow those kinds of accounts.
Spamming, I was not, at least not intentionally and the links could have been removed. I was posting researched information, not a propaganda mission.
Just because she has been diagnosed as crazy, does not mean that she is. Gloria Naylor a famous target was diagnosed as crazy and is not.
Without knowing more about her case, it’s impossible to know if she really is crazy, or a target or both. The targeting can make you crazy. Just look at what happened in Russia. Targets of the state were consistently diagnosed as crazy.
In America today, the psychiatric reprisal is being used on more and more people who are not crazy.
http://www.harassment101.com/Article5.html
http://www.psychologistethics.net/
http://scientific-misconduct.blogspot.com/search/label/lisa
Good sources of info about people who the state tried to put away as being crazy. It does happen.
Most people choose to believe that someone who talks about being followed around are crazy first and then they ask questions. I do the opposite, I choose to believe that people are sane first and then I ask the questions.
If posting articles about, Cointelpro, The Stasi, and our current surveillance society is going to encourage people to go crazy, or encourage paranoid delusions, then it’s unfortunate, because it’s reality. We live in a surveillance society. Innocent people are being stalked and monitored.
As evidence was presented, questions were asked. She said she knew who the anti-christ was and that she could speak to the dead. Lot’s of people think that, without necessarily being crazy. I did ask her why she felt that way in both cases.
The only thing that I did further was share with her information that myself and others have discovered about the multi generational aspect of Gang Stalking, which is also a fact.
I deeply feel sorry, and concerned about people who think that having good solid information will make people fall further into delusions. God forbid she go to sites about surveillance operations, or read books on such, or watch a tv show on such. God forbid, because I guess that those would be guilty of feeding her delusions as well.
This came up last year interestingly enough. God forbid people read the bible and it fuel their delusions of an omnipotent being that controls the world who they can’t see, but who they believe others have talked to. God further forbid such people to to Churches, Mosques, Synagogue and find others who further their delusions.
Providing a person with credible information about a problem that is happening to others is just that, it’s information that is available in books, on T.V., Youtube, and in other places. This information about Cointelpro, Mobbing, The Stasi, and other forms of harassment were available for years, as long as crazy people have thought that they were being stalked, which in cases like John Lennon turned out not to be paranoia.
The girl might be a real target, that possibility exists. She might also be crazy, that possibility exists. She might also be an agent who specifically is trying to link crazy and Gang Stalking. We had so much of that on Youtube, and on forums. There are agents of the state on most forums. This is a fact. Let me know if you need articles.
You could be here trying to be helpful, but you could also be here trying to link Gang Stalking with enhancing and encouraging the delusions of others. Eg. It’s not the first time this has happened, but as pointed out, these websites do not encourage delusions, anymore than watching tv shows, reading books, or visiting other sites on topic such as Cointelpro, or Stasi website.
If you are here with good intention’s then I thank you, but based on the original posting, and a discussion I had with the webmaster of the forum, that is not why I was banned. If your intentions are to try to link Gang Stalking sites with encouraging the delusions of the crazy, then we have been there done that, and you failed then a well.
Read the links that I posted. People are being set up to be declared as crazy, by our democratic countries. This is sick and wrong like it was in Russia. Because someone is declared crazy does not mean that they are. The girl was being teased and bullied. Crazy or sane that was not right and I stepped in because that is the human thing to do, and I will never regret doing the right and just human thing, in trying to stop her from being picked on. I told her that my first instinct is to believe her and you don’t know how needful that is, but then of course as I get to know her, I would look at the facts in her case and give feedback accordingly.
Even with real targets if I feel that they can not handle their targeting, I will always recommend they seek a support circle. Now I ask you what is being being believed and listened to, or being picked on and put down. She told her story, As I told the girl, I don’t know her and can not judge her crazy. I would rather take her word till more of her case is presented. Wither that is that she turns out to be yet another informant, crazy, target, or something else.
I hope that helps.
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