Energy

Ok so the dreams continue. I think I have had the odd break through, but it might just have been lucid dreaming so it’s hard to tell, but if only for a split second, I think I have been able to get back what was lost, so though this stuff is still happening with the programed dreams, it may not be permanent, I just have to find a way to stop it.

Energy

What I realised about the dreams is that they are being as I mentioned before controlled. I have in the the electronic manipulation of the nervous system happening, which means vibrations are constantly being used to manipulate my dream emotions. Fear is the main thing that is pumped into the dreams, even when it does not make sense, that is the emotion that is pumped into the dreams.

http://www.targetedindividuals.com/subliminal-acoustic-manipulation-of-nervous-systems/

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In human subjects, sensory resonances can be excited by subliminal atmospheric acoustic pulses that are tuned to the resonance frequency. The 1/2 Hz sensory resonance affects the autonomic nervous system and may cause relaxation, drowsiness, or sexual excitement, depending on the precise acoustic frequency near 1/2 Hz used.
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It’s almost like when I can get my vibrations in order, and I am just starting to vibrate at a higher frequency, it’s like they try to reacquire me with this stuff. Bring down my vibrational frequency, try to direct it to a fear based vibration, where the energy is blocked and it does not flow, where I am unhappy and the joy is stolen from my dreams, and heart. That is what they seem to be trying to do, so the idea is to block this and learn to do so while sleeping. I like learning new things, so I guess I have a lot ahead of me.

The Lame Dreams

I thought I had started to get control of these, but I have not, it’s an uphill battle, but what I have discovered is that these lame dreams are being used to hide things, to mask things, they are being used to cover what is really happening. The people, things and characters in the dreams are for the most part, none entities, used to mask the behind the scenes stuff. There is no attachment, when I finish dreaming they are hardly even remembered, and even though I was getting so lonely I started to almost accept the dreams, I still don’t’ cause they are not mine. It’s like eating ice cubes and trying to pretend you have had a wholesome meal. It’s not happening.

The Real Dreams

Behind the fake dreams are the real scenes. Again when I break through the fear of the dreams, when I connect with the real emotions, then the images or dream memories start to come, the real dreams.

The real dream scenes some still involve scenes with a handler that I hate and despise. Still beat downs for control. Still I am all too aware of the person who set this sick stuff up, and other things they have arranged, aside from the mind control programing. I have just put this person down to being a psychopath. Some people think that this person is just a pathological liar, but I am pretty sure this person falls into the category of psychopath, cause they just do the same actions over and over again, and have very limited remorse for what is being done. Those are my feelings and thoughts in the dream.

Aside from the key players, I get bits and pieces of places being mentioned in my dreams. Eg.

U.S. Army Medical Research Institute Of Infectious Diseases.

http://www.usamriid.army.mil/

I am familiar with the name, cause I researched Ebola some years ago, but the implication of the dream is that they might be infecting people with infectious diseases, to see how one person handles the onset of one thing vs another, and if some can cure themselves. Again this is all happening on a dream level, but who knows, I would not put it past some of these people to be conducting real life experiments on people. Very interesting dream, and this came out of the blue, cause it’s been like a decade or more since I researched Ebola. Yes things from a long time can come back in dreams, but this again feels very different and worth mentioning.

There are still these spiritual facilities set up, that match their earthly counterparts. I still get the feeling that this type of remote spiritual programing is used remotely on more members of society than we know. That’s what I take away from these dreams.

I get the feeling that many have no idea or memories and never will, that this has been done to them. Remember the dreams, the real dream images are repressed often by fake images, fake dreams. Or they will use animals to mask entire scenes of what has happened.

Eg. I thought I was seeing a slimy creature with red eyes in the dream right, but when I really examined the image more in the dream, I unearthed that it was hiding a whole entire dream sequence a real one, with a handler, and I was able to recall everything that the dream creature was protecting. It was used to block a whole dream sequence that had happened, and I could see, feel, and know everything that had been done, in that dream sequence that had been previously blocked.

So think about how many of these abductees, recall flashes of light, which I get from time to time, in the dream. How many of them see animals like owls, and other creatures, and is it not possible that these are used to lock in dream sequences that they just do not recall?

Also early on in one of the faux dreams, just before I work up, they tried to flash a very real craft like image in front of my eyes. Even in the dream I was like, are you kidding me? That is not actually going to work on me. They branded me a skeptic and decided they would not go this route. If I had been easily influenced or manipulated I am pretty sure I would have been having abductee dreams, but that has not happened. Instead I get the lame dreams, which are pointless, unfulfilling, draining, and they mask quite a bit of real dreams, and scenarios, which tend to have a lot of real life previously unknown terms, places, etc.

In the dream my mind has been compartmentalized and accessible by words, or images but I am doing what I can to fix this issue. In the dream the local losers have become aware of this, and trying to take advantage of the programing, that or they have been instructed to, this part is not clear yet.

What I find however and this is the take away that I get from the dreams. I find that vibrational frequencies are very important. I believe that much like you have psychic vampires who feed on people in the awake state, that humans can be feed upon in the dream state, and you can control where they go, and to a degree what they dream, by controlling specific vibrational frequencies. Considering the important role that dreams play in the consciousness of human kind, this is akeen to playing God, and I hope that more will come out about this in future months.

As I mentioned before, I believe that a lot of these abduction experiences are just remote mind control programing, with handlers. I think the people could be remembering these experiences as real, but in many cases it’s just an astral experience, which would seem 100% real if someone had never experienced it before. Is it possible that the U.S. and other governments have gotten so advanced that they are able to condition people in their sleep, to control their minds, to subliminally program them on an astral/spiritual level? Why not, they had programs where people were astral projecting, remote viewing and a bunch of other psi stuff that the public does not want to believe.

The Real X-files. CIA remote viewing program.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7371160296945984442#

It might have been removed from google?

If it’s possible that the technology is this advanced and has been for a while, then what might be going on in society, how many people have been remotely programed at a distance?

http://gangstalkingworld.com/john-st-clair-akwei-vs-nasa/

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Detecting EMF fields in humans for surveillance

A subject’s bioelectric field can be remotely detected, so subjects can be monitored anywhere they are. With special EMF equipment, NSA cryptologists can remotely read evoked potentials (from EEGs). These can be decoded into a person’s brain-states and thoughts. The subject is then perfectly monitored from a distance.

NSA personnel can dial up any individual in the country on the Signals lntelligence EMF scanning network and the NSA’s computers will then pinpoint and track that person 24 hours-a-day. The NSA can pick out and track anyone in the U.S.

NSA’s Signals Intelligence use of EMF brain stimulation

NSA Signals Intelligence uses EMF brain stimulation for Remote Neural Monitoring (RNM) and Electronic Brain Link (EBL). EMF Brain Stimulation has been in development since the MK Ultra program of the early 1950′s, which included neurological research into “radiation” (non-ionizing EMF) and bioelectric research and development.
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Tracking a person via their emf fields. Brain mapping technology that allows you to map a persons mind, but at a distance.

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The NSA has proprietary electronic equipment that analyzes electrical activity in humans from a distance. NSA computer-generated brain mapping can monitor all the electrical activity in the brain continuously. The NSA records aid decodes individual brain maps (of hundreds of thousands of persons) for national security purposes. EMF Brain Stimulation is also secretly used by the military for Brain-to-computer link (in military fighter aircraft, for example).

For electronic surveillance purposes, electrical activity in the speech center of the brain can be translated into the subject’s verbal thoughts. RNM can send encoded signals to the brain’s auditory cortex thus allowing audio communication direct to the brain (bypassing the ears). NSA operatives can use this to covertly debilitate subjects by simulating auditory hallucinations, characteristic of paranoid schizophrenia.

Without any contact with the subject, Remote Neural Monitoring can map out electrical activity from the visual cortex of a subject’s brain and show images from the subject’s brain on a video monitor. NSA operatives see what the surveillance subject’s eyes are seeing. Visual memory can also be seen. RNM can send images direct to the visual cortex, bypassing the eyes and optic nerves. NSA operatives can use this to surreptitiously put images in a surveillance subject’s brain while they are in R.E.M. sleep for brain-programming purposes.
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Remember it’s been claimed that this stuff has been available for decades. The lawsuit that brought this technology to light was almost 20 years ago, and this is a person who worked for the agency, and I think with this technology.

If this is being used remotely and at a distance on people, how many people in society might not even be aware that such programing has been used on them until it’s too late?

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Capabilities of NSA operatives using RNM

There has been a Signals Intelligence network in the U.S. since the 1940′s. The NSA, Ft. Meade, has in place a vast two-way wireless RNM system which is used to track subjects and non-invasively monitor audio-visual information in their brain. This is all done with no physical contact with the subject. RNM is the ultimate method of surveillance and domestic intelligence. Speech, 3D sound, and subliminal audio can be sent to the auditory cortex of the subject’s brain (bypassing the ears), and images can be sent into the visual cortex. RNM can alter a subject’s perceptions, moods, and motor control.
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There are so many things that are unknown, things the general public would rather not believe, things that would shatter their sense of reality if they accepted that governments have such technology, that governments were capable of such cruel inventions, and that the ultimate goal might well be to use this technology on an unsuspecting subject to keep everyone in line, or some elite members of society could use the programing to control those around them, spouses, kids, business associates, those who get elected to public office, the possibilities are endless, and because it’s all done remotely, the average person who is so programed already anyways would be hardly aware.

If this technology does in fact exist in the real world, and this lawsuit says that it does, then what are the questions we should be asking ourselves? Who could be using and abusing the technology, and what can we do to curtail the damages being done to society?

My main take away is that the human will if we have things that are stronger, deeper, things that go deeper than any programing than humans can devise can go, then the human will, the human spirit will not be broken, it will not be subjugated. A lot of what happens in the world has to do with specific vibrational frequencies, and if we as a society could raise our frequencies, break away from the television and other programs, we give our sense a chance to rise above what might be getting planned for us. I know for me that in these dreams, my deep spiritual programing, my Christianity has helped a great deal, for others it might be a different faith, or a deeper sense of self, but I do believe that if we hold strong, there are some wills that will not be broken, some minds that will not be bent, at least not forever, and I believe at my core that the human spirit can rise and conquer things like this.

That’s my take away from these dreams, and you are welcome to add your thoughts and comments.

Marry for love

Duty comes and goes, but marry for love if you can. A lot of times depending on your situation in the world, you might feel that a choice has to be made, and sometimes choices are made, cause you feel that it’s your duty, but sometimes those choices are the wrong choices.

Go with the option that you can live with. Sometimes based on your race, status, religion, gender, a choice will have to be made, do you marry the one you love, or do you do what is right for those around you that you feel that you have a duty to?

What can you live with? Some can choose love over duty and honor and are very happy. Sometime sticking to your guns will win you the person that you choose to be with, sometimes you will have to lose everything to make that choice. I recently had a chance to review some regal romances and marriages. Some where love was chosen over duty. Others where duty was chosen over happiness, which did not end well. Others where duty was eventually defied, and love was chosen which in some ways seems to be working out very well.

Though I believe we have many life times to get it right, and sometimes we do have requirements of those around us to me, we also have self requirements. I think you owe it to yourself not only to choose someone that will make those around you happy in the long term, but also someone that will make you happy in the long term. If you can take a chance and find something that meets both categories that’s great, if not you need to figure out what you can live with.

Search your soul, man up or woman up your reserves and then see if you have what it takes to do the right thing. This will be different for each situation. Some situations it will mean walking away from all that you know and love, other situations it will mean defiance to a high degree.

I think many earthbound souls come to earth to search for love, or a past soul mate, or correct something that did not work itself out in the past. I believe it’s possible to correct mistakes that were made, but I believe it’s all too possible to make the same mistakes again. Try your best to find out what works.

Yes not a Gang Stalking related post, but a seat of the soul post, and I think one was needed.

Change

I was just thinking about how society adapts and gets comfortable with new principles. concepts and ideas. Throughout history there have been ideas, concepts that once seemed taboo, forbidden, and those same ideas, concepts, social norms are now common and everyday. From controversy in science, where you could not say that the earth was not the center of the universe, to Christianity being a banned religion, then being adapted and taken over by the church of Rome. We saw racial practices in America and other societies go from being the norm, to getting slowly overturned, in some cases.

Years ago interracial dating was much more difficult than it is today for many in today’s society. I am not trying to imply that it’s always easy for couples, but for many in today’s society it’s easier than it was just 30-50 years ago. Many would not even think twice about dating someone outside of their race, but there are still cultural taboos in some cultures.

In a not too far distant past, a royal marrying a commoner would have been unheard of or meant giving up the thrown. Classicism was very much in existence, and families at times did terrible things to ensure that those boundaries remained in tact. Today it’s not that uncommon to see those barriers broken down, and wealthy individuals dating and marrying outside of their wealth and class structure.

At one time it was the norm for women to work in the home. Having the wife work outside of the home, was not thought of, even if the family was in dire straights, the man made the money and that is all that there was to it. Today women regularly work outside of the home, and many are the bread winners for the family. Society hardly thinks or blinks twice about women in the workforce, but just 30-40 short years ago, that is not the way things were.

Discussing groups like the mafia, Illuminati, unheard of. In fact both groups were said not to exist at some point in the past. Even discussing some cults, and street gangs was not as openly done as it is now in today’s society.

http://www.bestofsicily.com/mafia.htm

Now talk of the Mafia is common, there have been movies, even a T.V. show about how this organization functions. Talk of groups such as the bilderbergs, Illuminati and so forth was a conspiracy theory. They did not exist, discussions were laughed at, but not this has changes and discussions about their membership, practices, etc, are becoming more common. It should also be noted that the reason such groups were not outed is in part because they asked for the assistance and discression of the mainstream media outlets, and as a reward heads of those media outlets were allowed to attend their meetings.

They are now mentioned on news shows such as CNN, on T.V. programs, their mention is now a part of common culture.

Discussions of childhood sex abuse though widespread at one point, was a forbidden topic, so were the abuses by the catholic church, now today discussions of both are very common. Again where talk of such was taboo, and might even have had the victim excommunicated from society today talk is all too common.  Did these changes come about overnight? Oh no, many of these changes took years, and cost many people their lives. At the time these events were happening they created mini frenzied attitudes in society. People died, were arrested, socially annexed, but those who stuck it out, and survived slowly brought about change in society.

Societies attitude changed, and in time, they looked poorly on mistreating women who wanted to work outside of the home, those who wanted to date outside of their race (in some cases.), those who wanted to date outside of their class system (in some cases).

Today’s society is not that dissimilar to the old Roman empire and occupied Jerusalem where Christianity was introduced. People have taboos that they do not wish to change. The system has always been one way and they don’t want to have it changed. Jesus in his time, went up against an established system. He taught the people that those in authority were corrupt. He showed the people a better way to live, how to truly follow the true essence of the law. For his effort at time he encountered rumours, slander, death threats, and attempts on his life, betrayal by some friends, false arrest, fake trial, and death on a cross.

The people wanted change, but when truth came they let it be nailed to a cross, while letting real criminal like Barabbus go free, cause he was one of theirs. They were not willing to fight for their freedom from the spiritually occupying forces at that time, and so their bonds remained. Things have not change that much. People think that they are better educated. Many think oh if I was in such and such a time period I would have acted differently. I would not have betrayed Jesus, or I would not have harassed those people, or been too blind to see that the earth is not the center of the universe. Many people seem to think that they would have acted differently, and maybe some would. From what I can see people bring the same attitudes and mentalities to each time period, then the struggle has to start all over again.

In this time period the struggle is to expose a system, which is allowing a lot of corruption. As per history, those in the time period are not likely to see the faults and if they do, they are likely to do little to bring about the change, if the system is working for them. It’s only if things get uncomfortable, or the corruption gets so bad, that social attitudes change, only then will things change.

Gang stalking, Mobbing, Bullying

Collusion

The collusion that has been happening in society that Tim Field and others looked into happened in my opinion because of this system that is currently in place.  Most targets who complained about the collusion that they found in their lives were probably targeted by this system. They were probably on a community notification list, and these notifications are used not only as a type of blacklisting at the lower levels, but the same way that our lives are interfered with at lower levels, it’s the same at higher levels.

This means at tribunals, all types of court appearances, lawyers, judges, etc. The same way that clients are persuaded, blocked, or bullied from working with targets at lower levels, are the same collusion’s, that are happening at higher levels.

This targeting is systemic. Those that are a part of this system see it as their job to run interference for those that are targeted by this system. The same way they see it as their job to do other illegal and socially unacceptable actions.

http://www.bullyonline.org/action/obstruct.htm
[/quote]Collusion, corruption, oath of allegiance

Many targets of bullying report that they seem to be obstructed every step of the way in their pursuit of justice. The management refuse to investigate, or use an untrained investigator, or whitewash the case. The union refuses to help, or initially shows interest but suddenly changes sides. The solicitor initially shows interest but then starts acting in a manner which suggests they have the other side’s interests at heart rather than yours.

The employer’s lawyers apply for, and obtain, adjournment after adjournment, then obtain a pre-hearing review which the tribunal chairman handles in favour of the employer. In the tribunal, favour is shown to the respondent (employer) and you get the impression that the verdict has been decided in advance. Your solicitor, the respondent’s lawyers and the tribunal chairman seem to know more about your case than you think they should.

After the tribunal you’re left with no option but to privately sue the employer, the union, and your solicitor, and appeal the tribunal decision, but by this time you have no job, no income, your savings are gone, so is your health, maybe your marriage too, and there’s no prospect of ever being employed again, especially in the professions.

Sound familiar? If so, you might be surprised to realise how often this happens.

Although there’s never any substantive proof, it seems that all the parties arrayed against you have been colluding in secret. The question is, what allegiance binds these individuals together, and where could they meet such that the normal rules of confidentiality do not apply? What fraternal obligation places their duty to support and protect each other above the moral, ethical and legal obligations by which the rest of us are bound?

Employers, unions, law firms, and employees of the justice system are part of society, and every group, professional or otherwise, contains a few poor performers and rotten apples. This ranges from inexperience through ineptitude and incompetence to collusion and corruption

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At the time of this writing, I believe Tim Field might have believed he was looking at some type of secret fraternity, or brotherhood, that was responsible for this collusion. Though I fully agree that in the U.K. and other places that this has been a problem and still is, I think there is something else that could be responsible.

How could lawyers, tribunals and judges be persuaded to turn against clients? What motivation could there be? What most did not realise at the time is that this system is acting the part of a fraternity, a brotherhood, a secret society if you will, and the individuals that are a part of this system will do what they are told to do or asked to do in most cases.

http://www.crvawc.ca/documents/WorkplaceHarassmentandViolencereport.pdf

This report also discusses the collusion that many found themselves a part of. The women in this report had complained about workplace harassment, and found the same type of collusion in their lives. Their harassers were promoted. Unions did not wish to provide assistance, or they took the side of the harassers. Lawyers who were happy to help at first seemed to turn on those they were hired to help, seemed to drop cases, or even worst seemed to be working for the other side. How could such a thing be happening?

Similar would happen to Anita Belle when she tried to take the government to task for importing drugs into minority communities. Mrs. Belle would be disbarred, forced to move from America, to Canada, then to Israel. She is now after many years back in the United States, but does not seem to be practicing law.

I would see the same collusion in my own life when I first tried to file my complaint. That is part of what lead me on this journey to discover what was happening in society. What is happening is in my opinion stranger than fiction, and harder to believe than anything that I have ever encountered.

This system is being used in and of itself as a sort of secret society, they protect and do favors for those that are a part of it. Keep the members in line via bullying, intimidation, or by giving them perks. It’s a conspiracy in and of itself, but it’s one that much of society is a part of.

Gang Stalking, Mobbing, Bullying

From what I have observed, there is strong reason to believe that many of the targets of these practices are not a part of this system. For the time being I am calling it, and referring to it as a notification system, but it’s much more than that. This is a system that has been in place for a really long time. It goes all the way back, and those born will eventually be absorbed into it, and thus it continues. It’s used to control and regulate society. It removes those that step out of line, or those who will not fall in line.

The members of this system have a mentality that it’s ok, almost mandatory at times to pick on or harass those who are not a part of this system. It seems that many of them are under the false impression that everyone is or should be a part of this system. The reality is there are some, that are not aware of this system, thus not a part of it. That seems to matter very little to these individuals. It’s a cult mentality and a very dangerous one for those not a part of this system.

Slavery

The way the system functions and forces some of it’s members to take part in this system, to be a part of this borg like entity is nothing better than slavery.

For many however it does not fit their traditional definition of slavery and thus they do not see the system for what it is. In fact many of them would willing protect it.

They are born into this system, grow up in this system, and most will become a part of this system. I see them everyday, unquestioning, obedient, controlled, they do what they are told. They don’t question why people have to be a part of this structure, and most would not dream of stepping out of this structure. They believe that it protects them. It’s the 5 monkeys in a cage scenario, and it’s the way it’s always been done, and so they continue right along supporting a system, that basically is what outsiders would call bondless slavery.

It’s not slavery for the body, it’s conditioning and control of the mind to the extent that most actually believe that this system is what keeps them free, when in fact it’s what hold them in place as slaves.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0133093/quotes

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Morpheus: The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you’re inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.

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[quote].

Morpheus: The Matrix is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work… when you go to church… when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.
Neo: What truth?
Morpheus: That you are a slave, Neo. Like everyone else you were born into bondage. Into a prison that you cannot taste or see or touch. A prison for your mind.

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In my opinion, the worst form of slavery is when you do not know that you are bound. When you actually believe that you are free, but you are not. Each person has to come to this realisation on their own. It’s not something that others can make you see, you have to see it, feel it, and experience it for yourself.

Will it ever change? As long as people are just comfortable enough, just distracted enough, with their gadgets and ipads, soothed and comforted, lulled into a false sense of reality, then they will never try to leave their slavery. They will cling to it the way a newborn clings to it’s mother. It feeds them, nourishes them, comforts them, but it also enslaves them, and until they are ready to see it, you are just wasting your time. For those who do see it, understand it, and want to change it, it’s the worst hell, because once you understand, there is no way to go back to the false reality that you came from. You just can not see it any other way.

http://rlv.zcache.com/community_notifications_and_gang_stalking_flyer-p2448387195957324182dope_525.jpg

Community Notifications and Gang Stalking

At this stage it’s assumed that the targets friends or family are contacted via mail or some other method, given the notification, and then they probably have some kind of confidentially agreement or none disclosure agreement that they have to adhere to. Via Occupation health and safety workers have the right to know how to protect themselves from individuals who have a history, or who have displayed inappropriate or violent behaviour.

To give you an idea of the emotional impact that keeping quite on a similar topic would have, there was a story in the paper about a man who received a national security letter. This is completely different than a none disclosure agreement. He emotional felt like he was having a breakdown by not being able to say anything to his girlfriend, and was often forced to lie. That’s the sort of impact that sort of required confidentially can have on an individual.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/22/AR2007032201882.html

What targets are asked to sign once they get notification would be more of a none disclosure agreement.

[quote]Not only will this program used the civil servant already mentioned, but it will expand who is used in the program. They will have secret sources of communication available to them. The members of these programs will connect with the fusion centers. None disclosure agreement or a confidential disclosure agreements will be signed by many in these programs to ensure that the information is protected.[/quote]

They might feel empowered to make a citizens arrest even. The workers would be trained in proper methods of communicating safety codes and sign language. I know this notification system is suppose to be a wonderful thing, but parts of it remind me of my research on the Stasi and how the one handed sign language was used there. Eg. Snitches were taught the one handed sign language and then they too became a part of the system.

They use this secret code the same way any cult does, Gang, or secret society does and for those on the outside they are harassed, or the citizens who have been taught these health and safety signs choose not to work with those who are not a part of the system. In England where Masons used a similar structure of silence and secrecy, they are now forced to disclose if they are Masons, because the allegiance went above and beyond the loyalty to the law and in many cases maybe even above and beyond doing what was right.

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/britishmasons.html

[quote]The following instruction sets out guidance governing the membership by members of the armed forces of societies such as freemasons: there is no intention or policy to preclude service personnel from membership of any lawful and benevolent organisation. However, involvement in organisations of a secretive nature, such as the freemasons, carries with it the risk of establishing disparate loyalties which may have a destabilising influence on the chain of command, not least by the perception of preferential treatment and undue influence. While membership of such organisations is clearly a matter for the individuals concerned, serving personnel should not encourage or promote membership amongst their colleagues, meetings should not be held on MOD premises, and use should not be made of any MOD property.

Ministry of Defense
United Kingdon
New 2001 Department Policy on Freemasonry in the Military
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This is nothing against Masons, I am just pointing out that in the U.K. it became a real problem and disclosure for a time became mandatory.That recently changed for Judges again, where it’s no longer mandatory.

http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/phpnews/show_news.php?uid=154

I also suspect, but at this stage can not prove that this is probably what triggers some of the bullying in schools, and the mobbing in the workplace. Targeting those not taking part in this system.  “However, involvement in organisations of a secretive nature, such as the freemasons, carries with it the risk of establishing disparate loyalties which may have a destabilising influence on the chain of command, not least by the perception of preferential treatment and undue influence. ” Preferential treatment for members of the one handed sign language gang would be bad enough, but they are bullying, mobbing, harassing and systemically destroying those who are not a part of this and that is wrong.

I have and can bear witness of this preferential treatment for these club members or whatever they think of themselves as, and it’s not a club that I want anything to do with, because I have seen what they do to none club members, the last decade of my life has been a testament to that. In court hearing they try to use this to influence judges to curry favor, by identifying themselves as part of this program (system). It also happens in everyday life, like waiting and keeping a bus door open for someone who is a member vs someone who is not. I get that people want to support others who are part of this structure, remember the majority of people think that this is a good thing. There are aspects of this that are good, don’t get me wrong. A community coming together to look after itself and protect itself can be a beautiful thing, but from the side that I have lived, it’s been a nightmare, and no one should have to experience such systemic destruction. This happened to me because officially because I fought back about some workplace harassment, but unofficially I think someone who knew how this system worked had a grudge against someone else used it to get revenge. Eg. If you know how this system works, you provoke the person till they yell or lash out, bait them, then report them. Get them flagged.

After spending over 10 years mobbed, and Gang Stalked, I can truly say that this is the most evil thing that I have ever seen.

I also believe that this is similar to the end time structure. What I have seen of the conformaty, the way they try to bully people to take part reminds me of that same structure that has been spoken about.

Right now what happens to targets is their lives are systemically destroyed. People don’t want to work with them etc. The end time structure is not just a mark of (the beast) a person, it’s also a system were you can not buy, trade, sell without it. This notification system is conditioning people to comply, and to harass those who are not complying, or taking part with this system.

I think in a generation, they could socially condition people to believe that only those with the external mark in the forehead or hand are people who they should do business with, and what socially they can not enforce, there will be laws to back up.

Thousands of people are being eliminated from communities, usually the outspoken, and others, those not falling in line, via these notification systems. Can you imagine how many innocent people are in jails, institutions, homeless, committed suicide, or killed people because of this system? Will there ever be an apology? Will they review the files of those in mental wards who claimed that they were being followed around? The police and other agency reports of Gang Stalking?

People want the elites to take responsibility for their actions, but what about taking responsibility for their own individual actions? No it’s far easier to say that an authority figure made me do it and I was just following orders. That excuse worked in Germany as well, it’s the same types of structures repeating, where people get rid of those that  they are told are undesirable.  You get an excuse to do mean things to those the state has a problem with.

I can’t right the wrongs of the past, but I would ask that those in the know do something, ask for a review of this system, because the way it’s working right now, is not right. The systemic destruction of innocent individuals is just wrong, and the way it’s being used in that capacity is just evil.

Secret Society

Secret Society.

You hear a lot about this online, and people complain about secret societies, but I have been watching these citizens informants use their one handed sign language in a similar pattern and I am thinking, how can you complain about secret societies, when you are using this system the same way?

I have seen on several occasions the citizen informants use their secret signals to identify each other and do little favors or boons for each other that they would not do for others. On a more lethal level I have watched it be used to socially influence others from not doing business with a target, and I am thinking, how hypocritical. People complain about secret societies, secret codes, and how legal cases are won at the turn of special signals and so forth, but then they try to use this system in the same way. To control others, to destroy others, and I am amazed.

The other thing that I wanted to quickly address was the issue of bullying and mobbing. With the Phoebe Prince case, it just reminded me how cruel people can be at any age.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Phoebe_Prince

What I really wanted to address is the fact that I believe a large part of the mobbing in schools, work, community ect might also in part happen if people are not aware of, or are not using the informant signals. These informants in some cases, see this as a right to harass anyone who will not signal back at them. On a high school level all you need is a clique of kids in the know, vs those not in the know, and it’s easy to see how this might be applied. Is this being applied, and is this being used in that manner to harass from the schools, work, and community those not in the know, or those not a part of this system? At this stage it’s hard to know for sure, but based on past experience, I now believe that this could be a good possibility. If it is being used in this manner, then this is something that has to be looked into and sooner than later.

People talk about wanting change, but I think the only change they want is the freedom to control others even further, it’s being done to them, so they get a little power and in turn oppress others the same way. If you want others to change, look about you at how this system is working, and how you are being worked by it, and in turn destroying others.

Jane Clift Case Highlights

Jane Clift Case Highlights

This case is great. She was placed on a list. She used the Data Protection Act and Human Rights Act to sue and win her case.

6# The words complained of contain personal information relating to Ms Clift. That is data which is subject to the Data Protection Act 1998 (“DPA”). This Act implemented in English law some of the rights recognised by Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights (“the Convention”). Later those rights were more fully incorporated into English law by the Human Rights Act 1998 (“HRA”). The Council is a public authority. HRA s.6 (1) provides:

“It is unlawful for a public authority to act in a way which is incompatible with a Convention Right”.

Physical Contact. This is an area that some targets might be able to build a case on, in regards to who was given access to their data.

Data Protection Act. Human Rights Act. These are the two acts that she was able to use to file her case.

8# The question in this case is whether, and if so how, the Council must demonstrate that it has complied with its public law duties under HRA (and incidentally DPA) if it is to be able to assert that it has the interest or duty required at common law for there to be a defence of qualified privilege.

This is what the case came down to. The same would likely be true for the Acts in other countries.

EVENTS LEADING TO THIS ACTION

9# As a responsible employer the Council has a policy to protect its employees from violence at work. The policy is set out in a document headed “Safe System of Work (Codes of Practice) H&NS/COP/1.14 Version 1.0 date issued 11/3/03 Violence at Work (Inc Potentially Violent Persons)” (“the Policy”).

This also fell under Violence at Work

15# Mr Kelleher then conducted a number of other interviews. One was with Mr Gulfraz, a friend of Ms Clift. She was accustomed to helping him in making telephone calls and filling out official forms. She was at the time also helping him in a complaint he was making against the Council on a housing matter. He was present at the time Ms Clift made her call to Ms Rashid on 11 August. He heard the whole conversation over the speaker phone. Other witnesses were fellow employees of Ms Rashid. Ms Rashid did not have the phone on loud speaker but her colleagues sitting near her heard her side of the conversation. It was sufficiently unusual to attract their attention.

Witness close to Jane Clift were interviewed. Just like witnesses, family, friends, would be interviewed.

21# Also on 1 December 2005 Mr Kelleher filled out a standard form prepared in accordance with the Policy. It is known as a Violent Incident Report Form.

Same type of reporting form used in other countries as well to document incidents.

22# Mr Satterthwaite is the author of the Policy and the officer of the Council responsible for compliance with Data Protection and other related matters. He maintains the Register. It is a document prepared on Excel spreadsheet software. It contained ten columns and, at the relevant time, about 150 rows. Each row related to a person identified by name and address given in the first two columns. Ms Clift’s name was entered on the Register by Mr Satterthwaite upon information provided by Mr Kelleher. Details of the incident are given in column 5 as “threatening behaviour on several occasions”. The duration for which the person is to remain on the register is given in column 8 and in respect of Ms Clift the period is 18 months. The ninth column contains a title “Risk Rating VH, H, M and L” the entry for Ms Clift is M for medium. Two entries are admittedly inaccurate. The location of the incident is given at column 4 as “via correspondence”. The date of the incident is given in column 6 as “30/11/2005”.

All your information get’s documented.

24# The precise means by which the Register was circulated did not emerge clearly in evidence. Ms Clift protested immediately at her inclusion on the Register and asked if there was a right of appeal. She was informed there was not. In a letter dated 13 December 2005 Mr Satterthwaite (signing himself as Data Protection/ Health and Safety Co-ordinator) explained his decision in terms which implied that the Register had already been circulated by that date, as might be expected. Some information as to whom the Register had been shared with was given in that letter. More detailed information as to the publishees is not recorded in the form of an email before one that has survived dated 27 January 2006.

Health and Safety Co-ordinator did not give her the chance to appeal, so she took it to court.

30# The letter dated 13 December 2005 from Mr Satterthwaite to Ms Clift includes the following:

“Re – your letter dated 10 December 2005 – PVP Marker

A request for information that you sent to the Council, has been passed to me to answer, as I am the Data Controller for the PVP register.

Under the Management of Health and Safety at Work Regulations (1992), we have a duty of care to ensure that we do not put our employees into situations that may cause them physical or mental harm…

This register is shared between the Council’s Health and Safety co-ordinators to distribute on a need to know basis to managers, (especially those services that interface with our customers) so they can take the appropriate actions to protect their staff. This register is also sent to our partner organisations that may provide a service on our behalf (i.e. Slough Accord, Interserve, NHS Primary Care Trust and The Community Safety Partnership). Once the time limit has expired, using the same communication chain, a request is made that all traces of the warning marker is removed from the individual’s name.

This is what get’s distributed, and this is the same wording in most of the documents that I have been reading up on.

31# That letter reflects guidance from two sources. Whether it does so correctly is another matter. The first source is the Policy. This includes what, in another context, would be called sentencing guidelines, listing the activities that may render a person liable to have a violent person marker placed on their file and the “set period” said to be commensurate with the activity. The second document is one issued by the Information Commissioner covering five pages, entitled “Data Protection Act 1998 Compliance advice Violent Warning Markers: used in the public sector” (“the Compliance Advice”).

32# Ms Clift pursued her rights of access and sought further information under the Data Protection Act. By a letter dated 11 January 2006 Mr Satterthwaite wrote as follows:…..

Mainly social services related activities – Supporting People, Community Mental Health Team and Community Nursing

– Community Safety Partnership

Neighbourhood Wardens

Disclosure was made to the above organisations as they may all have cause to visit your address, for face to face contact. A good example of this is one of the many satisfaction surveys carried out.

She wrote the request under the Data Protection Act. Note her file was shared and distributed to quite a few people.

42# After further submissions on the questions to be asked of the jury counsel agreed that I should direct them as follows:

“If you assess damages, then you take into account circulation to 30 people for the e-mail and 150 for the Register. You leave out of account the remainder of the 66 to whom the e-mail was addressed unless you answer question 2 yes [in other words unless they find malice].

If you answer yes to question 2, you take into account all 66 people to whom the e-mail was sent and 150 for the Register”.

THE DATA PROTECTION ACT AND THE HUMAN RIGHTS ACT

These two acts played heavily into her defense.

43# The first proceedings brought by Ms Clift were in the County Court under the DPA. She commenced those proceedings on 13 January 2006 alleging that the Register was inaccurate. Those proceedings have been stayed to await the outcome of this libel action.

This is what Jane Clift had to do to clear her record.

(a) The widespread publication of information that a person is ‘violent’ and their inclusion on a register of ‘violent persons’ is a serious interference with that persons Article 8 rights which requires cogent justification.

(b) Ms Clift had never used violence towards the First Defendant’s employees and had never threatened any such employee with violence. No employee had complained about Ms Clift’s conduct and no contemporaneous ‘Violent Incident Report’ relating to Ms Clift had been completed by any person.

Point 46. interference with a persons Article 8 rights.

47# There followed a plea of malice which is summarised in para 2 above. The plea of publication set out the facts I have already recited in relation to the circulation of the e-mail with the Register as an attachment on 27 January 2006. The next paragraph material to be cited reads as follows:

“10 The Register entry and the e-mail were distributed excessively widely to persons and bodies with whom [Ms Clift] had no contact and had no interest in [Ms Clift].

When I have no contact with individuals across boarders, why is my information shared with them? Clients or associates in other countries should not have this information disseminated, but they are.

50# Nevertheless, it is appropriate to set out the terms of the draft amendment as follows:

“12A Further by publishing the e-mail and the Register Entry the [Council] has interfered with [Ms Clift]’s rights under Article 8 (1) of the European Convention on Human Rights without such interference being justified under Article 8 (2) and as a result its actions were unlawful under Section 6 of the Human Rights Act 1998.

The targets in European countries could start to look into this via data protection and Human Rights Conventions, Articles 8 and 6. See a lawyer first.

66# It is understandable that Mr Beggs should have ordered his arguments as he did. The Council has policies on both health and safety, and on data protection. Mr Kelleher and Mr Satterthwaite made the decisions they did make after considering these policies. Mr Satterthwaite directed himself on the law of health and safety at work, and on data protection, as set out in the Policy and the Compliance Advice. He did not mention the law of libel. Whether or not Mr Satterthwaite directed himself correctly is an issue for the court. But it is understandable that the Defendants should wish to be judged by the law which they understood to be applicable. Mr Beggs may also have taken the view that the course I adopted in the Westminster case at para 151 would be difficult to support. If so, he did not say that.

Health and Safety at work.

75# Mr Beggs submitted that the Council owed a duty to ensure the safety of their staff. He cited Health and Safety at Work Act 1974 ss.2 and 3 and the Management of Health and Safety at Work Regulations 1999 (SI 1999/3242), in particular regulations 3-5 and Schedule 1.

Health and Safety consistently cited throughout this whole case, used for justification.

90# The absence of a system of monitoring to whom the Register was published means that the Claimant may not be able to prove the full extent of the publication. The onus of proof is upon her, and if she is unable to discharge it, that cannot be relevant to the defence of qualified privilege that might be available in respect of other publications which she can prove.

A disgraceful lack of oversight is what I like to call it.

94# Para 16 provides that:

“Data controllers should ensure that only those members of staff who are likely to come into physical contact with a potentially violent individual, through visits or by meeting in open plan reception areas, or who can otherwise demonstrate a need to know, have access to violent warning marker information. So for example where a member of staff is required to visit a potentially violent individual, at this point they should be advised of this fact”.

Physical contact. There is that word again.

98# The Compliance Advice does not assist on the definition of violence or violent behaviour. The Policy gives what it states are “Examples of violent behaviour covered by the Code of Practice”. They include: “Shouting, Swearing, Racial / Sexual Abuse, Threats, Pushing, Spitting, Object Thrown, Damage, Hostage and Actual Violence”. These are all things which an employee should expect to be protected from. But to refer to them all as examples of violence, or even potential violence, gives an extended definition of that word. It normally connotes at least a threat of physical force, and one which is meant seriously.

An expanded definition of violence. So shouting by someone’s standards could get you and did help to get Jane Clift on the list. You have to be so very careful with these individuals.

109# Documents are now normally held and communicated electronically. It is easy and common to circulate by e-mail to very large numbers of people, within (and outside) an organisation, information which, in the past, would have been addressed in a letter or memo to very few. It is therefore much more likely than in the past that information will be communicated to persons to whom no duty is owed, or who do not have a legally sufficient interest in receiving the information. It was in order to address this change in practice that the data protection legislation was introduced, first in a limited form in 1984, and then as it is now in DPA. HRA was not specifically targeted at this issue, but it undoubtedly applies to it.

How far and wide is information getting shared? This is going to be an interesting question to look into. I get the feeling with limited oversight, they are using this to smear targets left, right and center.

112# The historical cases show that the values set down in the Convention in 1950 as rights under Articles 8 (including the right to reputation) and Article 10 (including the right of freedom of expression in the giving of references and warnings) were not invented in 1950. These and some other Convention rights can be traced back, not only to the American Bill of Rights and the French Declaration in the eighteenth century, but also to the very beginnings of English law. So one thing that HRA has achieved is to provide a means through which the courts can review the relative priority that the common law gave to those rights (which it already recognised), and adjust those priorities to meet contemporary needs.

This case was very interesting. Lot’s of good points, targets might be able to use. Check with a legal expert.

117#

On the one hand looms the probability, often amounting to a certainty, of damage to the individual, which in some cases will be serious and may indeed be irreparable. The entire future prosperity and happiness of someone who is the subject of a damaging reference which is given carelessly but in perfectly good faith may be irretrievably blighted. Against this prospect is set the possibility that some referees will be deterred from giving frank references or indeed any references.”

Yes slander can ruin your life.

120# The DPA has created new statutory rights which are in no way related to employment or other relationships, although they affect such relationships. That Act requires attention to be focussed on the rights of those who are the subjects of references and warnings, as well as on the rights of those to whom the references and warnings are addressed. Personal data must be processed (which includes disclosed) “fairly and lawfully”, and it must be accurate: see Sch I. There are extensive provisions on the interpretation of these and other principles and a number of statutory instruments containing further provisions. I shall not consider these further, because Mr Tomlinson made no submission based upon them. He confined his submissions to the new rights and duties created by the HRA, which apply to the defendant council, but would not apply directly to a private sector employer.

Wow you mean people can’t just create fake incidents, data must be accurate? Guess it’s time to start reviewing some files and see what is actually out there. What has been said, attributed to individual files vs what is accurate. There has to be a way to do a class action for inaccurate information, especially if there is a systemic practice that is occurring.

128# The jury answered No to each of the first three questions: they rejected the defence of justification and the allegation of malice. They awarded damages of £12,000 to Ms Clift. So, Ms Clift left court with her reputation vindicated and Mr Kelleher left court without a stain on his reputation.

http://www.1brickcourt.com/files/cases/140CLIFT_58136.pdf

Gangs and their secrets

The informants can also be compared to a gang and how a gang functions. I have compared them to cults, gangs, secret societies, etc. It’s all the same. Members who keep a code of silence.

There are many gangs in society but this is the main one, and it comprises all of the smaller gangs or minor ones. So it incorporates, government branches, the cops, the Mafia, street gangs, masons, Scientologist, black activists, kkk, store owners, company workers, almost every religious sect you can think of. Every sector of society takes part. I don’t think I can make this any clearer. As much as they might all pretend not to get along, when the state comes calling, they will communicate together in public, and they are unified when it comes to their informant system.

Gangs rely on silence, so ofcourse this relies on silence. The snitches don’t want their I feel special club exposed.

Scientologist have Scientology, Masons have Masonry, and the snitches have this. This is their gang, their cult, their secret club. They feel special being a part of this. So yes the secrecy is a big part. They get so upset realising that outsiders know. They like this cause it makes them feel connected, belonging, like any gang or cult would. The mafia is one type of gang, so are the cops, so are street gangs, and the members join for different reasons. Many clubs have secrets, that the members are expected to uphold.

The cops, informants, and gangs use one handed sign languages. http://gangstalkingworld.com/Media/category/one-handed-sign-language/

Where the cops and street gangs wear uniforms or matching colors, the informants often look like average people for the most part.

Some Gangs, some cults, some cops, some informants do underhanded things. There have been many cases where members of these groups have been caught doing illegal, immoral things.

Some Gangs, some cults, some cops, some informants  are corrupt. There have been cops caught dealing drugs, informants caught in huge lies that destroy lives, cults have been known to do corrupt things as well. I think most targets are familiar with the corrupt actions of some of the informants.

Some Gangs, Some cults, some cops, some informants , use lies, bullying, intimidation, and  fear to control their members. There are informants that want to speak out, but they are controlled by fear in some cases. They are lied to in others, and in some cases feel that it’s their patriotic duty to keep the secret. We have seen via gang stalking all of the above methods used to try to control and destroy the lives of targets.

The only thing with gang stalking is that it takes all the cults, gangs, cops, informants, and they are all part of one big gang. One big conspiracy of silence, and because so many people take part, many who realise what is going on lie to themselves. They believe that they are part of something that is good, nobel, protecting the city. They take part following orders instead of thinking. They pretend that this is normal, some of them see it as a good thing. To wake up to the truth that this is not normal, would shatter their reality. Many see it as power, rather than the enslavement that it truly is. To realise they are slaves, might mean doing something about it.

Many like the sense of belonging, sense of community, many on the inside don’t see things the way we do. They like the power, the connectedness, that feeling of finally fitting in, having a purpose. That is what keeps this going, and they don’t want their little secret club to be exposed.

Many people complain about cops and their blue wall of silence, or that gang members won’t snitch, or about how Masons, and other cults keep secrets, but then they turn around and they do the same thing. They keep secrets. They tell lies to keep their secrets safe. Their are hundreads of targets online saying that they are being abused by this system, but the cult/gang members still keep the secret. Then get made at other clubs or cults who do the same. It’s no different. They have their secret handshakes, you have your sign language.

Lies, manipulation, bullying, murder are used to keep your little system going just like any other. People who like these smaller gangs, cults, clubs, for the most part like this bigger one, cause the same things that allowed them to keep the secrets, tell the lies, do the damage, or destruction for these smaller clubs is what will cause them to do the same for this bigger club.

Gangs like their secrets, and they are willing to lie, bully, harass, intimidate, or destroy the innocent to keep these secrets. The informants in many cases are no different.

Paranoid Propaganda

https://gangstalking.wordpress.com/2008/12/20/paranoid/

Please read the above post.

I made this into a full post, because I very firmly feel that whenever accusations of this kind come up, they must be addressed and set where they belong. A poster from the forum, found my blog posting, and left a comment. Now maybe the poster left it for good, as useful feedback, or maybe it’s just another informant, who is trying to make Gang Stalking sites look like they encourage delusions. As I have said before in dealing with now hundreds if not thousands of people who have come through the site, the long term feedback has been that they feel validated, most knew that something was happening, but did not know what. Some considered crazy as an option, but crazy did not match what they were seeing and most are people who kept looking for other answers to what was happening to them.

I don’t know what the situation was like in Russia when the state started saying that dissidents were crazy. I imagine that many tried to prove that they were not, and tried to also expose what was happening. I do know that in Russia part of what got the abuses exposed were target telling their stories, till there were enough that people started listening. I believe that targets must do similar if they are going to be heard and expose what our governments are now doing.

https://gangstalking.wordpress.com/2009/11/10/too-much-truth/

[quote]I am a member of that forum. The member being gangstalked that you mentioned has said that she is a diagnosed schizophrenic who doesn’t want to take her medication. I assume that you haven’t read any threads posted by her other than the gangstalking one. She said she is being gangstalked by evil or negative energies because she knows who the antichrist is. You were banned because you unknowningly reinforced her delusions.[/quote]

This is the reason the account was banned.

Gangstalking, stop spamming with your links. You seem to be here on a propaganda mission. We don’t allow those kinds of accounts.

Spamming, I was not, at least not intentionally and the links could have been removed. I was posting researched information, not a propaganda mission.

Just because she has been diagnosed as crazy, does not mean that she is. Gloria Naylor a famous target was diagnosed as crazy and is not.

Without knowing more about her case, it’s impossible to know if she really is crazy, or a target or both. The targeting can make you crazy. Just look at what happened in Russia. Targets of the state were consistently diagnosed as crazy.

In America today, the psychiatric reprisal is being used on more and more people who are not crazy.

http://www.harassment101.com/Article5.html
http://www.psychologistethics.net/
http://scientific-misconduct.blogspot.com/search/label/lisa

Good sources of info about people who the state tried to put away as being crazy. It does happen.

Most people choose to believe that someone who talks about being followed around are crazy first and then they ask questions. I do the opposite, I choose to believe that people are sane first and then I ask the questions.

If posting articles about, Cointelpro, The Stasi, and our current surveillance society is going to encourage people to go crazy, or encourage paranoid delusions, then it’s unfortunate, because it’s reality. We live in a surveillance society. Innocent people are being stalked and monitored.

As evidence was presented, questions were asked. She said she knew who the anti-christ was and that she could speak to the dead. Lot’s of people think that, without necessarily being crazy. I did ask her why she felt that way in both cases.

The only thing that I did further was share with her information that myself and others have discovered about the multi generational aspect of Gang Stalking, which is also a fact.

I deeply feel sorry, and concerned about people who think that having good solid information will make people fall further into delusions. God forbid she go to sites about surveillance operations, or read books on such, or watch a tv show on such. God forbid, because I guess that those would be guilty of feeding her delusions as well.

This came up last year interestingly enough. God forbid people read the bible and it fuel their delusions of an omnipotent being that controls the world who they can’t see, but who they believe others have talked to. God further forbid such people to to Churches, Mosques, Synagogue and find others who further their delusions.

Providing a person with credible information about a problem that is happening to others is just that, it’s information that is available in books, on T.V., Youtube, and in other places. This information about Cointelpro, Mobbing, The Stasi, and other forms of harassment were available for years, as long as crazy people have thought that they were being stalked, which in cases like John Lennon turned out not to be paranoia.

The girl might be a real target, that possibility exists. She might also be crazy, that possibility exists. She might also be an agent who specifically is trying to link crazy and Gang Stalking. We had so much of that on Youtube, and on forums. There are agents of the state on most forums. This is a fact. Let me know if you need articles.

You could be here trying to be helpful, but you could also be here trying to link Gang Stalking with enhancing and encouraging the delusions of others. Eg. It’s not the first time this has happened, but as pointed out, these websites do not encourage delusions, anymore than watching tv shows, reading books, or visiting other sites on topic such as Cointelpro, or Stasi website.

If you are here with good intention’s then I thank you, but based on the original posting, and a discussion I had with the webmaster of the forum, that is not why I was banned. If your intentions are to try to link Gang Stalking sites with encouraging the delusions of the crazy, then we have been there done that, and you failed then a well.

Read the links that I posted. People are being set up to be declared as crazy, by our democratic countries. This is sick and wrong like it was in Russia. Because someone is declared crazy does not mean that they are. The girl was being teased and bullied. Crazy or sane that was not right and I stepped in because that is the human thing to do, and I will never regret doing the right and just human thing, in trying to stop her from being picked on. I told her that my first instinct is to believe her and you don’t know how needful that is, but then of course as I get to know her, I would look at the facts in her case and give feedback accordingly.

Even with real targets if I feel that they can not handle their targeting, I will always recommend they seek a support circle. Now I ask you what is being being believed and listened to, or being picked on and put down. She told her story, As I told the girl, I don’t know her and can not judge her crazy. I would rather take her word till more of her case is presented. Wither that is that she turns out to be yet another informant, crazy, target, or something else.

I hope that helps.

Iwatch. Nationwide citizen watch program

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,561661,00.html

New iWatch Program Urges Citizens to Be ‘Eyes and Ears’ Against Terror Plots, iWatch is a nationwide community watch program

[quote]
A new program aimed at keeping Americans safe from terror attacks will rely on individual citizens to serve as “the eyes and ears” of their communities.

iWatch is a community watch program endorsed by police chiefs across the U.S. that teaches people how to detect suspicious behavior and report it to police.[/quote]

Other sutable names. Istasi, Istalk, Iharass, Iturninmyneighbour and many more.

[quote]

L.A. Police Chief William Bratton, who developed the program with Police Commander Joan McNamara, called it the 21st century version of Neighborhood Watch, a program that encourages local residents to stay alert and informed about their neighborhoods.

“A single observation, a single report can lead to actions that can stop a terrorist attack,” warns a Public Safety Announcement video released by the LAPD.[/quote]

A single report can do so much damage, just like in Russia or the Stasi Era.

[quote]When the chiefs of the 63 largest police departments in the U.S. and Canada met to endorse iWatch at a conference last Saturday, they cited the case of Najibullah Zazi — the Denver man suspected of having ties to Al Qaeda who has been accused of plotting to use a weapon of mass destruction within the U.S.[/quote]

Wow Big Brother Canada was also there what a surprise.

Anyways as I have said a billion times these types of programs will come to the public light, this one is a program that is nationwide, and Canada somehow seems to be taking apart. All we need now is one that is planet wide, coming soon to a one world government near you.

These programs will come to light, Gang Stalking will be proven, but will anyone care? See it won’t be proving it, I don’t think that will be the big hurdle, much of that has already been done and overcome. Getting the ameba to show any remorse will be the real challenge and I don’t really know that that will happen.

http://www.lapdonline.org/iwatchla

[quote]iWATCH, iREPORT, i KEEP US SAFE (iWATCH) is a community awareness program created to educate the public about behaviors and activities that may have a connection to terrorism.

This program is a community program to help your neighborhood stay safe from terrorist activities. It is a partnership between your community and the Los Angeles Police Department. We can and must work together to prevent terrorist attacks.

To learn about the iWATCH program and about the behaviors and activities that you should report, view the videos and review the list of examples. You can also read and download a brochure that explains the program.

Remember that the iWATCH program is about behaviors and activities, not individuals. [/quote]

Ipuke, Igag, I am sorry, but this sucks. If they are being so open about it then the snitch force is complete enough for them to be this open and this proud about.

Well I just thought it might be interesting to read.