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Do we want to win?

Do we want to win?

I was watching the news the other day and a reporter asked a question. He wanted to know if the war in Afganistan was winnable? Can we win, and he was told we could win, if we made it into a home game. Meaning don’t treat it as an away game, make it into a home game. I was watching that clip, and thinking, Wolf Blitzer is asking the wrong question. The question is not can we win, the question should be, do we want to win?

For me that answer is no, not at any cost. Not because I am a defeatist, not because I want the other team to win, but because I am a realist and I know the price that winning is likely to be too high. Not at the continued loss of life of the troops, not at the continued loss of moral, and democratic freedoms that I see being eroded in these democratic countries. The economic cost of the war is also not great, the monies being spent to secure these victories, could have secured a hundred small victories for those in need at home. Feeding the poor, helping the sick and homeless, but instead those monies are put into the war machines. I personally believe that that price is too high.

Do the people want to win this war? I don’t think they care to, I think what concerns the people most is getting the troops home, that’s what they really want. I don’t think they care if it’s a home game, away game, or whatever. There is no victory when the cost is so high for both sides, and the cost has been high. Not just financially, but in freedoms.

These wars began with the premises that if we don’t go in there and don’t destroy the enemy on their turf, they will destroy us. I include the U.K., Canada, and all the other allied countries in this. The problem is that Iraq was not invaded due to the 9/11 terror scare. It was very much invaded on the false premise that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, which was false, but regardless, he is gone, some troops are still there, the situation is still messy, and though battles can be fought and won, the question with the remaining war is do the people want to win?

The last time I checked the American election was won not based on can we win, but it was won on the promises of we will end this war. We will get the troops home. That is where the hearts and minds of the American people were, it was not on can we secure a victory in some far away land. The other factor is not even if a victory can be secured in some far away land, because while that battle is being fought far away, the war at home is being lost. It is being lost in freedoms and liberties. These wars were supposedly fought to secure freedoms, but if you look at these democratic countries several years later it’s hard to recognize some of the freedoms that are supposedly being fought for, when these countries are starting to resemble mini fascists states in various ways. It makes no sense to secure a victory abroad, if freedoms are lost at home.

Is the other side going to benefit from this great war? Are we really securing freedom for these people? Do these people really want these occupying forces in their land? Looking at the Iraq war, things were not great under Saddam Hussein, but several years later have things truly been made better in the long run? When all is said and done, the people have been brutalized, their spirits were broken, the women raped, children tortured, civilians killed, lives destroyed. Out of this sick and sin, they have been infected with an informant network, which will destroy the internal character of their country, the way it is destroying the internal character of these countries, and will the end results be worth it? Will the ends really justify the means, there or at home in these democratic countries?

Do the people really want to win? Soldiers are coming home from these wars, and getting into conflicts with these militarized police forces that have sprung up, they are coming back to cities that they don’t always recognize. I have read of a few different cases where men who have served abroad came home, only to be brutalized, humiliated, or killed by some of the newly militarized forces at home. Is this truly what they are off fighting for? There is no victory, there is no win, if the freedoms that are supposedly being fought for are evaporated. We can win, but at what price, and at the end of the day, do we want to win?

Iraq is being rebuilt. From this great sick and sin a great city will be spawned, but will the price have been worth it? Someday the great city of Babylon will be rebuilt and rebirthed, if rumours are correct. Will the loses be worth a true victory?

When WWII was being fought, the danger was real for many people. They knew that if the Germanic forces were not stopped, they might well lose their way of life. The threat and danger was very real for people in the U.K., and in other nations. The war was coming to those shores and if victory was not won, the way of life would change. During that time, people were engaged, the objectives were clear, and the threat was very real, and securing the victory was the only option.

Today people are not as engaged as they were in many ways. Most kids care more about their Xbox 360 than if this war will be won. Some people are so far removed from this war, that they probably have trouble remembering that there is war ongoing. The world has changed, people’s views, values and perspectives have changed, and today, I am not sure that the question is can we win? I think the question today is do we want to win?

http://157.166.255.31/TRANSCRIPTS/1006/29/sitroom.02.html

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/war_on_terror_update

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/mar/19/iraq.topstories3

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1907831,00.html

http://icasualties.org/iraq/index.aspx

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/05/us/05list.html

July 5, 2010 Posted by | 9/11, Iraq, Police State, Politics | , , , , , , | Leave a comment

The American President bows to no one.

This article has nothing to do with Gang Stalking, but I felt it was worth commenting on.

I came across this article the other day, and the wording of it surprised me. It was not vulgar, the language was not racist, yet it’s one one of the most hard hitting critiques of the American President I have come across.

I am at times not too bad with checking the temperature of the net, and this article surprised me. It was a recap of what the writer felt was an unforgivable action and that is the American President bowing to the Japanese Emperor and Empress.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/nov/17/

[quote]A little traveling, like a little learning, can be a dangerous thing. Barack Obama on the loose in a foreign land is enough to frighten protocol officers and embarrass the rest of us.[/quote]

I did notice that American’s were upset with his bowing before foreign royalty.

See I think Americans see the president in their own way as royalty. Sure the ties to monarchy on the outside have been removed, but inside American’s want to feel proud, they want to feel that the person that is representing them will do so well. They want to know that American views and values will be upheld.

I was surprised by some of the comments, but the general consensus on some of the forums is that the President should bow to no one.

I think in my personal opinion a bow of respect can be given, but it’s all about how it is delivered that makes the difference.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/g20-summit/

 

In the above file footage of his meeting with the King and Queen of England, he does bow, but it’s a moderate bow and it is respectfully returned in kind. Equals of sorts and I don’t recall hearing any recriminations about this bow.

I also suspect the country he was bowing to did play a role. I know many mentioned the War time dead of WWII and felt that it was disrespectful to them as well.

I believe with this President people very much wanted back the good old days. The days they felt proud, the days that they felt that they had their own royalty. The Kennedy years.

I think in part one of the reasons Obama was a shoe in for president is that he did remind many of the Kennedy days. Jackie was queen and it felt as if there was royalty. The Kennedy’s wore no crown, but many felt that they were royal in their own right.

Americans came off of feeling embarrassed at times by the last Administration, I recall many times where the last president did something goofy, or made and error, and the American people cringed with him. When the world hated his policies, they felt hated right along with him.

With this administration one of the things that was promised not overtly, but in it’s own way was good representation. People liked that fact that he had come from a good school, had a degree, and wanted to be represented well. Americans are known for being a proud and arrogant people. Most would deny it, but many in the world want to come to America and be American and that is part of the reason.

After the horrible stimulus package, where they felt that they were violated, but were not quite sure, (You were violated.) they wanted to feel secure again, proud, they don’t want more debt or wild spending being tacked on to themselves or their kids. I think that is in part why they are so cautious with this health care bill. The last previous eight years was a lot for many Americans to deal with.

With this Administration they wanted to put the wars behind, the some degree of shame they might of felt with some previous polices and actions, and I think that is why they are quick to react when they see signs of the previous admin shining forth.

The bow wounded the pride of some. Most Americans would not admit it, but they are a proud and somewhat arrogant people, which is not a bad thing. I think they just want that pride back, and this bow hurt that pride, for some.

Most people will read this article and view it as a bad thing but I don’t fully. It shows me that Americans are a loyal people, it shows me that they take their representative seriously, and it tells me that they want to feel proud and full of hope again.

It means that if the president fails to represent the American people’s well, they will be a disloyal, hurt and angry subject, but if the president represents the American people well, they have the capacity to be loyal, faithful, and to stand with him, and feel pride with him.

To me it shows that they want the president to do well, but were hurt, and again not everyone even cared about this, but some did, and those are people worth listening to. It’s struck me as one of the more strongly worded articles I had come across and I felt that it was worth noting.

Some more highlights.

[quote]This is not the way an American president impresses evildoers that he’s strong, tough and decisive, that America is not to be trifled with.[/quote]

Americans like their tough guy image. Most countries do. They want that don’t mess with our country.

It makes them feel safe, like someone will be capable of looking after their best interests.

[quote]His predecessors learned with no difficulty that the essence of America is that all men stand equal and are entitled to look even a king, maybe particularly a king, straight in the eye……

John F. Kennedy, on the eve of a trip to London, sharply warned Jackie not to curtsy to the queen.[/quote]

I take it that Jackie did not curtsy. Respecting all traditions is a fine line to walk. I know the number of times I have read that this president is narcissistic, yet a narcissist would not bow before another would they? I think sometimes it can be damned if you do, and damned if you don’t.

I would highlight more, but you will have to read the rest.

I believe Americans when represented well will let a lot go, I am not sure who handles protocols for these trips, I think it’s not a bad idea to have more than one opinion, or suggestion as to proper protocol.

Traditions can be a very limiting thing, and can hold a nation back from progress, but they can also be a beautiful thing, and everyone loves when their’s are respected and adhered to.

November 22, 2009 Posted by | black, Celebrity, male, politicians, Politics, society | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | Leave a comment

Bedbugs, Policy Change, and Racial Barriers.

This is a follow up to several postings that I have written lately. I was going to title it Hodgepodge 2, but it’s more specific than that. I also didn’t want to spend too much follow up time on each point, so it’s all part of one big follow up article.

The first is on Bedbugs. I can’t make them go away for you, but for people who still have bedbugs, here are some things that I have discovered that might help the bedbugs to go away.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5R8T1G38bY
http://www.bedbugpowder.com/

http://www.badbedbugs.com/mattress-cover-for-bed-bugshttp://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=107650

[quote]mattress in a zippered plastic cover and greasing bedposts with Vaseline to keep the bugs from crawling up[/quote]
From everything that I have read online this is what will help to get rid of the little creatures. If you get rid of yours, it’s with the hope that the Gang Stalking community will get rid of ours.

The other topic was that of policy change. I will not bother to point to the headlines that are trying to keep the terrorist threat alive and well, but it’s clear that there does not seem like there will be any kind of policy change. I am sure the frustration is shared by many, many people. I think we saw the frustration this week expressed from some unexpected avenues.

Eg. If you were an Al-Qaeda leader hoping for change, apparently it’s not going to happen.

We are from what I am reading, seeing many aspect of the former Clinton cabinet come back into play. I had no problem with Clinton, but with the savy use of the Internet in this campaign, it would have been nice to see something fresh, new, hip and happening, but we are seeing a rehash of what’s been done before. Boring.

The last point is that of Racial Barriers. I wrote this week that it’s great that the media is being very sensitive suddenly to the issues of racial barriers. Great but maybe the measure of how far a society has come should not be if they can vote in a black or bi-racial president, but if they can address the always present issues of race that already exist in the society. I mean it cute that you are censoring people for using the word colored, but what about accepting and acknowledging those of a mixed, or bi-racial heritage?

I did some research briefly on this some time ago.
http://onedroprule.org/forum-2.html

In America today if you have one drop of black blood, when you are filling out applications, surveys etc, you must claim black as your heritage. There is often no spot for people of mixed race heritage. Many in America feel stigmatized by this rule. There are many bi-racial Americans who don’t understand why all of their heritage can not be acknowledged, and why they in an open and modern society, still have to choose one part of their ancestry.

Tiger Woods made a point of not being classified by one part of his ancestry when he won at tennis, he made sure that all parts of his ancestry were acknowledged. I don’t see a change in this acknowledgement happening across the society.

http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/07/01/man_3.jpg
(The one drop rule means that at 32 this man could go from a classification of white to black, upon learning that his father was African American.)

http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/race/2008/07/incognito-from.html#more

So how should a society really be measured? By their choices at the voting booth, or by the way they treat and acknowledge the members of their society and the multifaceted realities that exist in the heart of that society.

http://onedroprule.org/about5108.html

November 22, 2008 Posted by | Gang Stalking, Laws, Politics, society | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | Leave a comment

The Unforgivable Word

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/al_qaida_obama

I woke up to this headline. Al-Qaeda attacks Obama. Terrorist group uses racial slur to attack president elect.

I am going what? So I delve further into the article, because I am pretty sure, terrorist in the desert or not, whatever you want to think of them. I am hoping they know better than to use the other N word.

[quote]
Ayman al-Zawahri’s message appeared mainly aimed at persuading Muslims and Arabs that Obama does not represent a change in U.S. policies.
He said in the message that Obama is “the direct opposite of honourable black Americans” like Malcolm X, the 1960s African-American rights leader.
In al-Qaida’s first response to Obama’s victory, al-Zawahri also called him – along with former and current secretaries of state Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice – “house Negroes.” [/quote]

So he didn’t use the unforgivable word. Also this argument is one that I have heard from several other people, black or white. Some people do think that there is no change. Democrat or Republican, black or white it’s the same agenda.
I also remember recently that Jesse Jackson had to apologize for his remark where he said he felt that Obama was talking down to black people.

http://articles.latimes.com/2008/jul/10/nation/na-jackson10

[quote]“Barack, he’s talking down to black people,” Jackson said in a short clip the network aired this afternoon on “Special Report with Brit Hume.”

[/quote]
Now it’s not as flattering as being called the Magic Negro, which I still don’t see how that was meant to be flattering, but apparently it was, when used by the L.A. Times.
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-ehrenstein19mar19,0,5335087.story?coll=la-opinion-center

[quote]

But it’s clear that Obama also is running for an equally important unelected office, in the province of the popular imagination — the “Magic Negro.”
The Magic Negro is a figure of postmodern folk culture, coined by snarky 20th century sociologists, to explain a cultural figure who emerged in the wake of Brown vs. Board of Education. “He has no past, he simply appears one day to help the white protagonist,” reads the description on Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_Negro .

[/quote]
This follows on the heals of Lindsey Lohan, getting some heat for using the term Colored. I didn’t watch the video, but even if she used the term colored, it’s antiquated, but not generally in many circles considered racist.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/11/lindsay-lohan-calls-obama_n_143087.html

[quote]Lindsay Lohan is happy Barack Obama got elected after campaigning for him this year. But, she referred to the President-Elect with a mumbled adjective at the beginning of an interview with Access Hollywood’s Maria Menounos that some say is offensive. Does she say “good” or “colored?”

“It’s an amazing feeling. It’s our first [mumble] president.”

[/quote]
So let’s recap here people, so I don’t keep seeing those crazy headlines.

Colored is an antiquated word, but at the time of it’s popularity was I don’t think primarily a negative word. (Though it was used as a divisive word)

Black the preferred term outside of America, and the Afro American term. In Canada, the UK, and many other parts of the world Black is the preferred term.

Negro, Not a popular term in this time period, but still not considered a racist word. In fact the term is still used by the United Negro College Fund. Because a mind is a terrible thing to waste.

The last and final word which I will not debate here, but I still think falls into the unforgivable word category. The N_gger word. Used by some urban kids and some adults, the word has throughout history had a negative connotation. It still does in many circles. Urban culture has tried to reclaim and recapture the term and often use it amongst themselves, much to the shagrin of people like Oprah and many others in the black community and outside, who find the term highly offensive.

The term is a dubious one, because depending on who uses it, it’s often over looked in some cases, Eg. If used by a black person, vs if used by another race. Some people think that the term should be not used by anyone. (I am in agreement with this.)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6406625.stm

[quote]The city council of New York has voted to ban the use of the word “nigger”.

The resolution to ban the so-called “N-word” is largely symbolic as it carries no weight in law and those who use the word would face no punishment.

But it reflects a growing unease that the racial slur is now part of everyday conversation and that the taboo against its usage has been swept away.

The word is in common usage among sections of the younger generation in the United States.

‘Throwback to slavery’

For many years the “N-word” has been used by young African Americans who have appropriated it as a, perhaps ironic, term of endearment.

Now, other ethnic groups have started to use it in a similar context, and those who insist it should be banned are growing increasingly outraged.

Many African American community leaders, with the backing of fellow lawmakers, say it is offensive in every context and that is a word which should never be said.
[/quote]

So that’s a little bit of a history lesson on words that are popping up left right and center and dubious headlines that I keep coming across. Let’s not go crazy people. Obama hopefully will not be the last black (bi-racial) president ever. I think it’s great the media is taking care to make sure that he feels welcome and people are being sensitive on his behalf, wither it’s making sure that the colored term is not used again, or other precautions, but let’s keep things in context here.
Here are some pics of Obama with his grand parents.

http://www.moonbattery.com/ObamaGrandparents.jpg

With his dad’s family

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/images/2008/03/31/obama_family.jpg

with his mom

http://maremare1225.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/sweet.jpg
His mom’s family

http://theladnerreportblog.blogspot.com/2008/05/hard-working-white-people-should_13.html
With is family
http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2008/03/15/mn_obama_family.jpg
With his grand daddy
http://a.abcnews.com/images/Nightline/ht_beach_080131_ssv.jpg

So unless someone uses the unforgivable word, can we stop with the crazy headlines, please.

November 20, 2008 Posted by | Awareness, black, discrimination, male, Minorities, Politics, society, White | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | 1 Comment

Sharing their Conspiracy on the Internet

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/13/fashion/13psych.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/11/13/style/13psych.php

Sharing their Conspiracy on the Internet.

This is a quick follow up to the article sharing their Demons on the Web that came out November 13, 2008 in the New York Times.

I don’t know how many of our website visitors out there have had a chance to read and digest this article that just came out in the New York Times and also ran in several other International papers, but I thought this would be a wonderful opportunity to shed some additional light on some portions of the article.

The Internet is a modern marvel of mankind. I have seen parents who’s children are ill, and they have used every expert that the offline world can throw at them, only to fail. I have seen those same parents type in a few key words, and find help, love, support, and many times the answers that they were seeking. I personally see a similar pattern when it comes to those seeking help or assistance for their Gang Stalking.

They are seeking help and assistance, they have tried all forms of offline support and to no avail. Some have been on medication, thought of suicide, or are at their wits end, and then they find these sites. They find they are not alone, they find that their symptoms that they thought no one else would ever believe, are common place and everyday for the members of this community. They find understanding. Using these websites is a matter of choice, and when traditional practices have failed, then these websites have come to the forefront for help, support and even healing.

This quite lengthy and delightful article starts of by saying:

“FOR years they lived in solitary terror of the light beams that caused searing headaches, the technology that took control of their minds and bodies. They feared the stalkers, people whose voices shouted from the walls or screamed in their heads, “We found you” and “We want you dead.”

For the targets of Gang Stalking the harassment is often subtle and leaves very little trace. That is why it has for years been very difficult to muster up any support or awareness of what is happening to us. If voices were shouting from walls, many of us within the community would have been quite capable of going getting a tape recorder or video camera and taping what was happening to us.

The next paragraph of the article is fairly correct.

“When people who believe such things reported them to the police, doctors or family, they said they were often told they were crazy. Sometimes they were medicated or locked in hospital wards, or fired from jobs and isolated from the outside world.”

Just like with our cousins in the mobbing community. Before workplace mobbing was studied and verified, targets of this practice were often not believed, were often left isolated, and at times driven to suicide, or other acts of violence. Our communities experienced the same things, before these support apparatuses were put into place. Please keep in mind that Gang Stalking has a lot of the similarities to what happens with workplace mobbing, except this does happen in the community and we are followed around.

The next paragraph goes on to say.

“But when they found one another on the Internet, everything changed. So many others were having the same experiences.”

This is in part true. Things did change once we started to compare notes, and provide a support structure for each other. Before this, many of us did suffer in silence and anguish. Since starting the Gang Stalking World website, I have had people tell me, that their families were falling apart, but after finding a support source, and just knowing that they were not alone, it made a world of difference. That is one of the primary and key functions that this website and others like it does.

The next paragraph goes onto say:

“Type “mind control” or “gang stalking” into Google, and Web sites appear that describe cases of persecution, both psychological and physical, related with the same minute details — red and white cars following victims, vandalism of their homes, snickering by those around them.”

I will grant that many of our experiences do have extremely similar facets, much in the same way targets of bullying and mobbing had similar experiences. I am not sure that I would agree with the fact that we all see red and white cars. The cars that follow Targeted Individuals around come in all shapes and sizes, but in the past, several targets have noticed overt similarities.

The next paragraph describes us as an extreme community.

“Identified by some psychologists and psychiatrists as part of an “extreme community” on the Internet that appears to encourage delusional thinking, a growing number of such Web sites are filled with stories from people who say they are victims of mind control and stalking by gangs of government agents. The sites are drawing the concern of mental health professionals and the interest of researchers in psychology and psychiatry.”

I find this paragraph to be interesting. I am not sure that sharing stories and providing support encourages delusional thinking anymore than sharing stories of workplace mobbing, did for the targets of that harassment, or what exposure did for the targets of Cointelpro. I think history has shown that gathering together and providing support and awareness has been beneficial for targets of similar forms of harassment.

If these mental health professionals are concerned about these websites spreading delusional thinking, I am wondering what they would have said and how they would have pronounced the mobbing websites just 10 to 15 years ago. At the time before serious research was paid to workplace mobbing, believing that your co-workers were conspiring to harass you out of the workplace, and that human resources was a part of this conspiracy in some cases would have been seen as delusional, but with the advent of research into workplace mobbing, we now see that this is in fact a very real phenomenon and human resources have not only been involved at times, but it’s become a common practice in some areas with what’s called the psychiatric reprisal.

http://www.harassment101.com/Article5.html

http://arts.uwaterloo.ca/~kwesthue/mobbing.htm
http://mobbing-usa.com/

What mobbing websites have done for targets of Workplace Mobbing in shedding light and offering assistance is what Gang Stalking websites are doing now for the targets of this practice.

When targets of the state in Russia were declared delusional and mentally ill, the psychiatric community in those countries were a very dedicated force in silencing those individuals and cooperating with the state. If researchers into psychology and psychiatry are interested in studying this phenomenon let’s hope that it’s with an eye towards finding out the truth, and not with the intention of helping the state to further persecute, which is what happened in Russia.

The next paragraph expresses the concern that social networking websites that deal with gang stalking, and mind control might inhibit targets from seeking help and impede treatment.

“Although many Internet groups that offer peer support are considered helpful to the mentally ill, some experts say Web sites that amplify reports of mind control and group stalking represent a dark side of social networking. They may reinforce the troubled thinking of the mentally ill and impede treatment.”

What I have personally seen a lot of the Gloria Naylor types. By this I mean, people who sought out traditional forms of assistance. They went to the police, doctors, lawyers, had the mental exam, etc and they still were not getting anywhere, the problems were still happening in their lives. Gloria Naylor is a famous African American Author who was also a target of this practice. She wrote a book about her experiences title 1996. She first sought out psychological help and even went on medication which did not help. It was only after discovering websites that dealt with mind control, that she finally received some help and assistance. In her own words she has since then been able to start to turn her life around. Traditional forms of support in her case and many others have not helped, and have not lead those suffering to finding solutions that would help or assist them with functioning.

I would hope that if this is going to be studied, that cases such as Ramona Lopez and Jesus Mendoza will be reviewed. There cases are well documented and they were both whistle-blowers that started to experience the same phenomenon after blowing the whistle. I would also hope that if this is going to be researched, that they will review how writing the book into the Buzzsaw was able to provide help and support to journalist who go through a very similar phenomenon.

http://www.freedomofthepress.net/intothebuzzsaw.htm

Over the last two years, I find that many of the people who are visiting my site, have sought out traditional assistance, and realise that something else is going on. They seek out additional assistance after realised that they are not getting help with what is happening to them. I see people who do start blogs or video tape what is happening to them, and they say that it provides them with a sense of empowerment. I can say on a personal level that exposure of what is happening to me, has been one of the most cathartic things that I was able to do over the last 2 years.

The next paragraph says that:

“Dr. Ralph Hoffman, a psychiatry professor at Yale who studies delusions, said a growing number of his research subjects have told him of visiting mind-control sites, and finding in them confirmation of their own experiences.”

This tells me that more and more people are seeking out help and assistance on the Internet. What it does not tell me is what happens next? After they visit these sites, do they stop seeking Dr Hoffman assistance, do they just find some comfort in the fact that they are not alone, or some other alternative?

“The views of these belief systems are like a shark that has to be constantly fed,” Dr. Hoffman said. “If you don’t feed the delusion, sooner or later it will die out or diminish on its own accord. The key thing is that it needs to be repetitively reinforced.”

That is what the Web sites do, he said. Similar concerns have arisen about a proliferation of sites that describe how to commit suicide, or others that promote anorexia and bulimia, providing detailed instructions on restricting food and photographs of skeletal women meant to be “thinspiration.”

With all due respect to Dr Hoffman, many of the people that I have spoken to, again had sought out traditional assistance and it was not working. They had tried to believe that things were maybe in their heads, but found consistent reasons to believe otherwise and went seeking out other answers. These are the majority of people that are ending up at my website. The same way many targets of mobbing end up at workplace mobbing and bullying websites, when first trying to understand their harassment and bullying.

Gang Stalking websites in many cases are not feeding a delusion anymore than mobbing or bullying websites are. They are giving targets similar stories, or a list of symptoms that are the same or similar to their own. They are helping them to find solace and often answers that had hither to alluded them. They also provide comfort and support.

The comparison of Gang Stalking websites to sites that encourage people to commit suicide, or revel in their eating disorders is an unfair, and unjust comparison. We in fact do the opposite. Gang Stalking websites, based on feedback that I have received, often help people out of some of the darker moments that they are going through. We strive in fact to stop people from committing suicide or other acts of violence. Knowledge is power, and we provide them with up to date information based on research, that many in the Gang Stalking community have been doing.

Before Gang Stalking websites were available, some people like myself used mobbing and bullying websites for support, but that did not quite answer all the questions or cover all the scenarios of what was happening to us. If visiting these mobbing and bullying sites were not harmful, then might it be supposed that visiting Gang Stalking websites could be having a similar and beneficial effect for individuals who feel that they are targets of this practice?

“There is no concise survey of mind-control sites or others describing gang stalking — whose users believe that groups of people are following and controlling them, as part of a test of neurological or other kinds of weapons likely conducted by the government — on the Net. But they are easy to find. Some have hundreds of postings, along with links to dozers of similar sties. One, Gangstalkingworld.com, welcomes visitors with this description: “Gang Stalking is a systemic form of control, which seeks to destroy every aspect of a Targeted Individual’s life. The target is followed around and placed under surveillance by Civilian Spies/Snitches 24/7.”

I am really glad to see that the article was kind enough to mention the Gang Stalking World website. I just wish that it had also mentioned that a program called Cointelpro was perpetrated by the American government and has very similar characteristics to what we describe as Gang Stalking. I wish the article had also mentioned that Cynthia McKinney,a former United States Representative had also requested to have Cointelpro investigations re-opened, because she believed that aspects of this were still ongoing.

http://www.cynthiaforcongress.com/bio.php

“the sites provide the powerful, unfamiliar experience of being understood by others.”

I think this paragraph more than anything else sums this up really well. These websites provide understanding. I can remember personally reading Mark M. Rich’s the hidden evil for the first time, and I remember somewhere on his old site where it said you are not alone. After that I never felt alone again. There is something about connecting with others who are having a shared experience that is so cathartic, and amazing. You truly do not feel alone and for the first time I was able to connect with this stranger that was miles away, and feel truly understood. In the subsequent years, this is the feedback that I have received from the dozens of website visitors who have come through my site.
http://www.gangstalkingworld.com/Handbook/TheHiddenEvil.pdf

“By and large, most people are sane and coherent and can relate exactly what’s happening to them,” Mr. Robinson said. “They can say the things that would otherwise get them labeled as delusional.”

People for the first time in years are free to be themselves and to say what they want to say, without someone saying that they are crazy. This is not only one of the amazing things about the Gang Stalking Support sites, but this is one of the amazing things about the Internet, and this is the concept that has helped the Internet to grow and to become what it is.

“Vaughan Bell, a British psychologist who has researched the effect of the Internet on mental illness, first began tracking sites with reports of mind control in 2004. In 2006 he published a study concluding that there was an extensive Internet community around such beliefs, and he called 10 sites he studied “likely psychotic sites.”

The extent of the community, Dr. Bell said, poses a paradox to the traditional way delusion is defined under the diagnostic guidelines of the American Psychiatric Association, which says that if a belief is held by a person’s “culture or subculture,” it is not a delusion. The exception accounts for rituals of religious faith, for example.”

Since Gang Stalking World only began in 2006, and we don’t predominantly deal with the mind control aspect of the targeting, I can assume that my website is not on the list that Dr Bell put together. I would however love to have a copy of this list, because even within the Gang Stalking, Mind Control communities, there are websites that are more helpful and useful than others. Before passing further judgement, I would love to see the 10 websites that he used when making his assessment.

“Dr. Bell, whose study was published in the journal Psychopathology, said that it does not suggest all people participating in mind-control sites are delusional, and that a firm diagnosis of psychosis could only be done in person.”

Since diagnosis has to be done in person to formulate an accurate opinion about wither a person is delusional or suffering from a psychosis, I am a bit surprised that a remote assessment was made in regards to a whole community, but I again would love to read the research first.

“For people who say they are the target of mind control or gang stalking, there may be enough evidence in the scientific literature to fan their beliefs. Many sites point to MK-ULTRA, the code name for a covert C.I.A. mind-control and chemical interrogation program begun in the 1950s.

Recently the sites have linked to an article published in September in Time magazine, “The Army’s Totally Serious Mind-Control Project,” which described a $4 million contract given to the Army to develop “thought helmets” that would allow troops to communicate through brain waves on the battlefield.”

I wish the article had pointed to the even more numerous articles on some of these websites in regards to proof that people are being followed around, and placed under watch.

The next paragraph points to Jim Guest a Republican State Representative, who just like Cynthia McKinney has also taken some of our claims seriously.

“And the users of some sites have found the support of Jim Guest, a Republican state representative in Missouri, who wrote last year to his fellow legislators calling for an investigation into the claims of those who say they are being tortured by mind control.

“I’ve had enough calls, some from credible people — professors — being targeted by nonlethal weapons,” Mr. Guest said in a telephone interview, adding that nothing came of his request for a legislative investigation. “They become psychologically affected by it. They have trouble sleeping at night.”

He added: “I believe there are people who have been targeted by this. With this equipment, you have to test it on somebody to see if it works.”

The article might have also mentioned that three states have now passed laws in regards to electronic harassment. In the last several years there has been forward momentum, because there has been a focus on exposure and awareness.

“Dr. Bell and some other mental health professionals say that even if the users of such sites are psychotic, forging an online connection to others and being told — perhaps for the first time — “you are not crazy” could actually have a positive effect on their illnesses.

“We know, for example, that things like social support, all of these positive social aspects are very good for people’s mental illness,” Dr. Bell said. “I wouldn’t say it’s entirely and completely positive, but it can be positive.”

Some research has shown that when people with delusions undergo group cognitive therapy, the group process can be helpful in their treatment

But the Web sites are not moderated by professionals, and many postings discuss the failure of medication and say that mental health professionals are part of the conspiracy against them.”

Tim Fields when he set up his Bully support website was not a professional either. He in fact was a target of bullying. He was later accredited for his work in the field, because of the research that he did. He also started to find a link to suggest there was a conspiracy afoot with what was happening to many targets of bullying when they sought out help and assistance.

It’s still unfortunate that with full knowledge of programs such as Cointelpro, MK-Ultra, and the situation in the former East Germany that some mental health professionals would conclude an assessment of mental illness before proper research into this phenomenon was thoroughly conducted.

http://www.bullyonline.org/action/obstruct.htm

Again the above paragraph goes to show that people finding our websites, are trying out traditional forms of support, medication and psychological assistance which are not working, and they are seeking further assistance and locating our websites. Again I will point out that with the situation in Russia that happened, the mental health profession was a part of the conspiracy. We see similar patterns with McCarthyism and Cointelpro and organisations that should be trustworthy being parts of government conspiracies.

““These people lead quietly desperate lives,” said Dr. Jeffrey A. Lieberman, chairman of the Department of Psychiatry at Columbia University. “And if they are reinforcing each other and pulling people toward something, if they are using the Internet and getting reinforcement, that’s good.””

I don’t know that all targets lead desperate lives, however being a target of Gang Stalking and or Mind Control can have a stressful effect like none other. We are using the Internet to find support, encouragement and understanding, which is something that many of us we were not able to do before.

“Psychiatrists and researchers say it is too soon to say whether communication on the Internet among people who may be psychotic will negatively effect their illnesses.” This is a very complex little corner,” said Dr. Ken Duckworth, the medical director for the National Alliance on Mental Illness, an advocacy group. “Some people may find it’s healing, but these are really hard questions. The Internet isn’t a cause of mental illness, it’s a complicating new variable.”

Because being psychotic can and should be primarily assessed in person, I am still wondering where the conclusion is being drawn that the people frequenting these websites have a mental illness is to begin with? I can understand if this assessment is being based on people who have first visited traditional psychiatrist, but then this would also show that traditional forms of theory might not be helping and that people are still seeking out additional support. Ether way I found the article to be a fascinating read, and I am glad to add it to the collection of articles that have been acquired over the last two years, in trying to get to the heart of what has been happening to members of the Gang Stalking community.

With any support system, there will be good and bad. I would suggest that people still have more than one mechanism in place, but overall, no matter what you are going through, finding love support and understanding is a good thing.

November 16, 2008 Posted by | Awareness, Brain reading device, Bullying, CIA, Citizen Informants, Civilian Spies, Cointelpro, community mobbing, control, Controlled society, Corruption, Covert investigations, crazy, Electronic harassment, Gang Stalking, Gangstalking, Gaslighting, google, harassment, Insane, Internet, Isolation, Laws, Life, mobbing, paranoid, Politics, Snitches, society, Stalking, Targeted Individual | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | 5 Comments

A hero will save us.

I think that’s what many people are still waiting for. A hero to come and save us all and make it all better. We as a society and as a world always seem to look outside of ourselves for people, things and situations to save us, and the thing that I have found in my life thus far, is that there often is no one else to save you.

Don’t get me wrong, I believe in God, the power of the universe, whatever you want to call it, him. An external power source that we can call upon, draw upon in times of trouble for deliverance and one that works. I do believe that. I also however know that this power source works dependent on your belief system. If you have no faith it will not work, and the more faith you can throw at it the better. Though equals result.

“Faith is the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things no yet seen.” Hebrews 11:1

Does this mean that we should give up hope and stop writing those letters to politicians and others? I don’t think so, and I am not saying that. However I am saying realistically, our deliverance is not likely to come from these sources.

I have reviewed the situation that was happening in South Africa a few years back, the slavery of the American South, The East German Situation and Nazi Germany. I think if the people of those time periods had written to their politicians for a solution, the very politicians that were implementing their systems of slavery, servitude, oppression, it would have made very little sense. Even the politicians of those times who were actively opposed to what was happening had to tread very carefully, until such a time as they could do something or act, and even then it was in small measures and small dosages.

There are people who see what’s happening, who are aware of what’s happening and do oppose our situation, but we are in a state, where there are also a number in positions of power who have used these types of systems to control populations. Our situation is different in the sense that the people in these systems do not in many cases realise that something is wrong, or that people in their own democratic countries are being tortured, targeted in these inhumane ways. The ones who do realise are often as dumbfounded as we are, as to what to do. If they openly oppose what is happening, they risk the same kind of targeting that we face.

For those just tuning into this blog, or who are not familiar with Gang Stalking and what is happening to some of us in countries such as the U.K. Canada, America, and many other European Countries here is a quick definition and run down.

Quick Definition:

“Gang Stalking is a systemic form of control, which seeks to destroy every aspect of a Targeted Individuals life. The target is followed around and placed under surveillance by Civilian Spies/Snitches 24/7.

The Civilian Spies can be parts of these community oriented policing programs, but most often they are just average citizens. Just like with Cointelpro investigations, everyone in the targets life is contacted and asked to be a part of the ongoing, never ending, monitoring (systemic harassment), which is designed to destroy the target over years and leave them with no form of support.”

What it basically means is that many of us in the Targeted Individual Community, which is what we call ourselves, at some point, normal average, sane citizens, work up or rather came to the realisation that we are being systemically targeted by a governmental program that is similar to the American Cointelpro system. (If you don’t know what that is, look it up, it was run by J. Edgar Hover). It’s also something very similar to what happened in East Germany.

This means that our countries have for some time now, been using Citizen Informants to track and monitor at times innocent individuals the state has decided to ostracise. Many of us don’t know the reasons for our targeting. I can tell you that for many of us it began in the workplaces or communities where we reside. This is being used on a lot of whistle-blowers, dissidents, activists, but it’s also being used on average people. School moms, who stay at home and who just want to take their kids to school, the average guy down the street. Many of us fit a profile, for bully targets, and gang stalking targets, but outside of that, many of us are still trying to figure out the reasons the targeting began.

Myself, a few others such as Mark Rich and others from outside of the Gang Stalking community have come to the conclusion that this is part of a smaller cleaning solution leading up to the one world government. (Since many are not familiar with that subject, or not even aware of how far the governments of the world are in achieving that objective, I will leave that subject matter alone for the moment.)

Back to a hero saving us. When this first began many of us wrote to organisation such as the A.C.L.U. or Amnesty International, organisations that once again proved to be ineffective, just like they had during Cointelpro and McCarthyism. Many of us have not been able to find assistance via these channels or support.

There are many groups within the Gang Stalking Community, but many have been set up by the very governments that are doing the oppression. An idea that again was started by J. Edgar Hoover and has proven to be very effect. His ghost has left a lasting shadow that is hardly understood, by most.

In choosing to not wait for a hero to save us, many like myself have started awareness campaigns to try to make others aware of what is happening to us. At first thought of as paranoid or crazy, recent articles and news that has been gathered, has increasingly shown that democratic governments are using anti-terror laws to spy on citizens, but that’s just the surface of what’s going on, the truth of what’s going on is more X-files like that I will touch upon here.

By not waiting for a hero to save us, since this affect us all in society and not just the gang stalking, mobbing, or targeted Individual community,
I realise once again that the systems that I spoke about before fell, because of exposure of what was happening. If people are not aware, there is not much they can do, once they are aware, it is the act of empowering them, and helping them realise that they are the best and most effective agents of change, that made the difference in those other systems of oppression.

Waking up and realising that the very government, or state that you trusted, is the perpetrator of what amounts to a conspiracy to destroy your life is a very frightening and sobering experience. Realising that you are being followed around by your fellow citizens who are using a one handed sign language similar to what was used in East Germany.

The Targeted Individuals that have managed to get past the shell shock, trauma, or post traumatic stress of the situation have found their way online, and are actively seeking ways to end our oppression. Oppression that many people are either not aware of, aware of and fully compliant with, or aware of and unable or unwilling to help.

Shining light into the darkness is our best hope. This means raising awareness on a ground level, and letting that awareness trickle upwards or outwards instead of downwards. This I think is one of the most effective things that we can do.

So if you are reading this blog for the first time, this concept might seem strange to you, but for many of us, it has been our reality for some time, and in reaching out, we are simply trying to bridge the awareness gap, that is helping to keep our oppression in place.

I hope you will take a few moments to look into these concepts if you are not familiar with them, and by just making yourself aware and others around you, you will be making a difference to a community of oppressed and targeted people.

“I am so high. I can hear heaven.
I am so high. I can hear heaven.
Oh but heaven, no heaven don’t hear me.

And they say that a hero can save us.
I’m not gonna stand here and wait.
I’ll hold onto the wings of the eagles.
Watch as we all fly away.

Someone told me love will ALL save us.
But how can that be, look what love gave us.
A world full of killing, and blood-spilling
That world never came.

And they say that a hero can save us.
I’m not gonna stand here and wait.
I’ll hold onto the wings of the eagles.
Watch as we all fly away.

Now that the world isn’t ending, its love that I’m sending to you.
It isn’t the love of a hero, and that’s why I fear it wont do.

And they say that a hero can save us.
I’m not gonna stand here and wait.
I’ll hold onto the wings of the eagles.
Watch as we all fly away.

And they’re watching us
(Watching Us)
And they’re watching us
(Watching Us)
As we all fly away.yeahaahh…ooouuhh”

Artist: Nickleback

November 10, 2008 Posted by | activism, Awareness, Bullying, Censorship, Citizen Informants, Civilian Spies, Cointelpro, Community harassment, community mobbing, control, Controlled society, Corruption, Covert investigations, Electronic harassment, Fascism, Gang Stalking, Gangstalking, harassment, mobbing, NWO, Politics, Snitches, society, Stalking, State target, Targeted Individual | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | 2 Comments

Gang Stalking, Sexual Assult, E-harassment

The next thing I wanted to talk about was an Interview Greg Syzmanski did with Ramona Lopez. The interview is from a couple of years ago.

She was a regular mom who saw kids in her community doing drugs. She wanted to help these kids, so she started with some others in the community to help try to get the drugs stopped.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b59_1194549634

What happened to her was a nightmare. Along the way of trying to stop drugs, she learnt that the officials in the community were actually trying to push drugs on the kids. There she was trying to get the kids off drugs, and the police and others were trying to keep them on drugs.

Well she started to make this known and that is when the trouble started. Her and her friends started to get set up, several of the woman who had tried to help her were set up with narcotics, arrested and placed in jail. She herself was almost set up, but she had tapped the conversation.

She was gang stalked, she actually walked into one of the community policing meetings where they were trying to set her up and demonise her. They didn’t realise that she was the one that they were going to be following around, so they spoke openly about her, saying things that were not true. When they realised it was her, they stopped talking at the meeting.
Her family would later be harassed, they started to electronically harass her, she was drugged with needles, she was gang raped in her home, when she went to file a report about it, they did not want to perform a rape kit, when she reported it to the police, the report when no place. She was constantly stopped by the police, demonised, she even eventually lost her home because of the harassment.

They used everything to silence her and the rest of the people that had tried to help these kids. What she discovered is what many others have discovered, the authorities in these areas were the ones trying to push drugs on the kids.

She also when she went to the doctor found that she had been chipped. She has x-rays of this, and other documentation.

She awoke in the middle of the night on more than one occasion when they were in her home, thinking they had her in a drug like state, she could hear them talking above her. (The scene she described reminds me a lot of what some of the abducties have said about waking up, with people around them. I do think there is a tie in to these scenarios.) She talks about how they can make you pass out. What she is referring to by this is how the electronic pulses can put you to sleep, many targets including myself have experienced this. We will be fully awake and if we are not cognizant of the electronic harassment beginning, we will just fall asleep and awake later. Your energy is just zapped, and you just fall asleep, as if you have no energy. Kind of like a small child being instantly rocked to sleep.

She was still being stalked and harassed, they had gone after her family. She is very credible when you listen to her, and there was no reason for the government to do this to this woman, but they did. The drugs in the community never stopped and she became just one more target of the state, who stumbled upon the truth and was silenced for it.

Please take the time to listen to the full audio interview of what they did to this woman.

September 28, 2008 Posted by | Community harassment, Corruption, crazy, Drugs, Police Abuse, Police Corruption, Politics | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | 3 Comments

Obama. A call to service.

These are Obama’s plans for American Citizens. I would like to get some general feedback from American’s and others about what they think of Obama’s plans for the future and their children’s futures.

 

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I will ask for your service and your active citizenship when I am President of the United States.

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This will not be a call issued in one speech or one program – this will be a central cause of my presidency. We will ask Americans to serve. We will create new opportunities for Americans to serve. And we will direct that service to our most pressing national challenges.

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That’s why I will call on a new generation of Americans to join our military, and complete the effort to increase our ground forces by 65,000 soldiers and 27,000 Marines.

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Today, AmeriCorps – our nation’s network of local, state and national service programs – has 75,000 slots. They tap America’s greatest resource – our citizens.

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As President, I will expand AmeriCorps to 250,000 slots,

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People of all ages, stations, and skills will be asked to serve. Because when it comes to the challenges we face, the American people are not the problem – they are the answer.

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We’ll call on Americans to join an Energy Corps to conduct renewable energy and environmental cleanup projects in their neighborhoods. We’ll enlist veterans to help other vets find jobs and support, and to be there for our military families. And we’ll also grow our Foreign Service, open consulates that have been shuttered, and double the size of the Peace Corps by 2011 to renew our diplomacy.

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And we’ll use technology to connect people to service. We’ll expand USA Freedom Corps to create an online network where Americans can browse opportunities to volunteer. You’ll be able to search by category, time commitment, and skill sets; you’ll be able to rate service opportunities, build service networks, and create your own service pages to track your hours and activities.

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So when I’m President, I will set a goal for all American middle and high school students to perform 50 hours of service a year, and for all college students to perform 100 hours of service a year. This means that by the time you graduate college, you’ll have done 17 weeks of service.

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At the middle and high school level, we’ll make federal assistance conditional on school districts developing service programs, and give schools resources to offer new service opportunities. At the community level, we’ll develop public-private partnerships so students can serve more outside the classroom.

For college students, I have proposed an annual American Opportunity Tax Credit of $4,000. To receive this credit, we’ll require 100 hours of public service. You invest in America, and America invests in you –

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To marshal their talents in building a new energy economy, I will launch an initiative to give our veterans the training they need to succeed in the Green Jobs of the future. It’s time to end our energy dependence at home so our national security isn’t held hostage to oil and gas from abroad.
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And we will not leave out the nearly 2 million young Americans who are out of school and out of work. We’ll enlist them in our Energy Corps,

September 25, 2008 Posted by | Gang Stalking, NWO, Politics, society | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | 5 Comments

Structure of our oppression video.

There is a new video out, it matches the article the structure of our oppression.

If you feel that the video might have some merit, then please upload it to your blogs, websites, etc.

Or please link to the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLpHitaKk1s

Again the video just covers all the items that are located in the structure of oppression article, located here http://www.gangstalkingworld.com/Structure.html

I think a lot of information has come out in the last couple of weeks. I think it’s up to Targeted Individuals to review the information, research for yourselves and then if you find the information to be valid, please share it with others.

September 22, 2008 Posted by | Electronic harassment, Gang Stalking, harassment, Laws, mobbing, NWO, Politics, Snitches, society, Stalking | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | 1 Comment

YouTube S1959.

YouTube Mass Censorship in effect. (S1959)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rUn3gE4bncg&feature=email

Hand someone a bible and be considered a terrorist. That’s the kind of thing we are dealing with under laws such as this S1959. This is what is being said about this law.

Well what YouTube is doing is they are going to be censoring many videos.

This is a strict bill that has not passed yet, but YouTube has gone ahead and implemented this massive form of censorship. They seem to keep silencing voices.

The video says they have been trying to raise awareness about S1959, because if this bill passes, it will make disagreeing almost impossible. This apparently attacks the first amendment.

A lot is happening and it happens while we all sleep. Now I saw another more alert poster blog about the YouTube bans a few days back, and for some reason forgot all about it.

However it’s been brought to my attention and I am doing my part by raising immediate awareness. If you can, do all that you can to stop the bill from passing, write letters, etc.

Also for YouTube, let’s use other file sharing sites if they insist on  implementing this ban.

Soon the Internet will not be a free place, they really do want to silence us in every way possible. Right now we have a bit of freedom and a small window of opportunity to make a difference, let’s each try to do what we can.

September 19, 2008 Posted by | Controlled society, google, Internet, Laws, New World Order, NWO, Politics, revolution, Social Control, society, youtube | , , , , , , , , , , , , , | Leave a comment