My Gangstalking adventures.
Hello world.
This blog is going to be about my adventures with gang stalking. I really didn’t choose this adventure, it choose me about six years or so ago. I didn’t ask for it, but I am living it, and so now I will share my adventures with you all.
I am not on facebook, twitter, or myspace. I get asked this question a lot. You can visit the following links to see some of the progress that is being made. I did create a twitter account but it’s not in use.
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I have been a victim for over 9 years now and could write a book on my “adventures”. I was glad to find some literature on my issue after so many years of abuse. I need to counteract my problem. Thanks for your advice and sharing your real life experinces.
Comment by Steve Bottiglio | December 23, 2006 |
I believe my family and I also have been targets for decades. The only time the constant harassment stops is when none of the family members are speaking to each other. It seems like we are purposely made to keep the internal feuds going. It is happening at work too and the layers of deception are very disturbing.
I read an article a few weeks back on rense I think about a woman who thought she maay have unknowingly signed up to be on a “game show”/social experiment. she felt that her entire family was in on it but couldn’t say anythign until she figured out what the “game” was. the article is no where to be found now. typical
Comment by concerned! | July 5, 2009 |
I think they just like drama, they like many other paracists feed off of people’s negative emotions, that’s why they try to keep targets sad all the time.
Comment by gangstalking | July 8, 2009
HI Steve.
I just wish we oould all get these crazy little adventures stopped, so we could enjoy our lives again.
Comment by gangstalking | December 23, 2006 |
I know this girl and she sent here people after me and its going on as i write this i wanna know if there are any people out here that are going to stop talking and writing stuff and start acting no t-shirts are going to stop it we have to protect ourselves
Comment by habib steen | September 2, 2009 |
I think taking legal action is great, but when you are fighting against a corrupt system that may not protect you. Exposure and awareness is still the key and so each target must do their part.
Comment by gangstalking | September 12, 2009
Hi,
I am a victim of electronic harassment and vigilante-style stalking. I have been so for many years but somehow I maneged to stay alive. Iam 34 years old, and I have a college degree. I live in Zagreb, Croatia. Just to let you know that the same script is being operated all over the World. Thanks for your postings.
http://webograd.tportal.hr/thajas1
Regards,
Tome
Comment by Tome Hajas | January 5, 2007 |
I had been gangstalked for 4 years in California and was left alone for 4 years after moving to San Antonio Tx. I recently applied for a part time job and sent for references in CA. I did not get the job, but the gangstalkers showed up. What I’ve learned: This is the only life you have to live, make the best of it. Keep your life as normal as possible. Don’t assume that EVERYONE is a gang stalker. You are probably being electronically monitored in your home so tell them what you think of them in the privacy of you home and ALWAYS be appropriate in public, no matter what is going on around you.
Keep your sense of humor, you’ll need it.
Comment by Margaret Cone | March 5, 2007 |
Nicely said…
GOD BLESS US ALL
Comment by Hughie | October 30, 2009 |
The same thing is happening all over the world. I don’t have to assume people are gang stalkers. (Civilian spies or Suburban Spies is a better term.) I can tell who is and who is not.
These programs are being run all over the place. If you moved and were able to get it stopped you are very lucky. Looks like the civilian spy force were not able to track you to the other state, which is great for you.
Comment by gangstalking | March 8, 2007 |
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I too am a target for gangstalkers in the UK and according to my research of other victims stories, it seems to have picked up pace over the last four years. I my case I know who instigated it and why. Amazingly, it was to do with a warning I had to make to a commercial tenant in an office building in London on behalf of the landlord. Apparently, the security guards of the tenants (an airlines company of a certain Middle Eastern country considered an ally of the US)were going into the lady’s WC at night and doing unspeakable things to the toilet seats, door handles and mirrors. It seems that the security firm of the sacked imported guards have gone to great expense and effort to sabotage my career for a couple years since and have setup a network of stalkers to hound me 24/7/365 in my neighbourhood and around my work area four the past year.
Fortunately, the activities of the stalkers are so incompetent and unbelievably fixed to the classic methodology of gang stalking that the actions are predictable. Rest assured that I have made good use of this predictability.
***As per an email request the full name of this poster has been edited. If this was not a request made by the orginal poster please email at once***
Comment by A.M. | March 26, 2007 |
I am very interested in your experiences of gang stalking in the UK.
How do you think it is being organised, what is the ultimate motive.
I am currently experiencing the most extreme targeting including 24/7 surveilance, isolation, the ultimate goal seems to be to have me terminated either by suicide or murder. i came across this which describes some of the tactics being used very well.
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.local.county-durham/msg/cbe1744012a29815?pli=1
I have found out the individuals driving this, there has been a large amount of funding involved in bribing people and offering rewards and there is official collusion.
The level of organisation and persistance is astounding.
i am sure i will be taken care of very soon.
Comment by Andy | October 5, 2009 |
Hi Andy, that link uses material taken from the http://www.GangStalkingWorld.com site, but the poster has changed the last two paragraphs to reflect their own needs.
“This evil is so bizarre that the perpetrators have a party/celebration ”
From this line on, that is his own information, he has taken the info from the Gang Stalking world site, and added his own. Anyways, to try to quickly answer the question about Gang Staking in the UK, have you seen the Structure of our oppression video, and read the article? I suggest you start there. I will post the links.
http://gangstalkingworld.com/Media/2008/11/structure-of-our-oppression/
http://gangstalkingworld.com/Media/2008/09/the-structure-of-our-oppression/
The UK media has done a great job with exposing the mis-use in the councils and how the system is being used to set up investigations for things like taking out the garbage on the wrong day, or registering in the wrong school district.
If you have that mentality you will not get anywhere, they want you to live in fear. Fear God, I am not impressed by anything else.
Comment by gangstalking | October 7, 2009
Hello Adil.
Gang Stalking seems to just be Cointelpro with some new twists. The government in the past used these things called Red Squads to harass and they used and paid people to do the harassment. That seems to be what they have started up again.
Every country is doing this, and they have the populations of most cities taking part in this stuff. Most people seem to think that they are watching a dangerous target. What you might want to do is hire a private investigator, or a lawyer. See if there are any agency or government files out there on you, or try to get your freedom of information records.
Many people have found themselves harassed this way because these people have the right connections to open security investigations on people. Then they use our fellow citizens who are now the eyes and the ears of the state to watch us. They will get told that we are crazy or terrorists or whatever, and ofcourse some of them are already half crazy, so this is the result of all that.
Comment by gangstalking | March 26, 2007 |
Over the past 3 years, I have noticed nothing go well for me. Now I am stuck in this stupid job. My intuition told me something of the such was happening even without knowing anything about it. I apply and I apply for jobs and I don’t get even an interview! I have good skills. It’s awful. How do you make them stop? Also, which Agency do I go to access my freedom of information records since there are so many?
Any help can really help!
Comment by S. Bonngelil | July 23, 2009 |
Sorry to hear about what is happening. Even though I do believe in requesting them, during an ongoing investigation you are not likely to get the records you seek. However if you go to http://gangstalkingworld.com/Forum/YaBB.pl?num=1226891452
There is lot’s of info in this thread about how to request them. Don’t know where you live, but the process should be pretty similar for most countries.
Comment by gangstalking | July 26, 2009
Great articles about the Red Squads.
1. http://www.albionmonitor.com/9711b/policing.html
2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_squad
3. http://www.encyclopedia.chicagohistory.org/pages/1049.html
4. http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/060508/8homeland.b.htm
5. http://www.answers.com/topic/toronto-police-service
6. http://www.eye.net/eye/issue/issue_06.06.02/news/school.php
7. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1132/is_n6_v43/ai_11559671
These are some good articles about the Red Squads, seems these are back in opperation across the US, UK, Canada.
Comment by gangstalking | March 26, 2007 |
I like to congratulate you for the information you are sharing with everybody, been gangstalked since 1987, and technology took over in the early 90’s, the “set-ups” and the whole program is just unbelievable and despicable, the “zombies” better called the “slaves”, that are in this cult, think they’ll be protected, since minorities are targeted, so their perpetrators are minorities too, blacks against blacks, jew against jews, and so on. Thanks to “patriot act law” this program that was “running” quietly in the 90’s ,took off, thanks to the 9/11 events, where the conspiracies about the Government orchestrating this tragedy, to get the “law” kick in, was perfect. Where everybody voted “ok” but one Senator, majority won.
Probably un-awared of what this Law was implicating by “enslaving” Americans against Americans, in the most despicable way anybody could imagined. Would anybody would be willing to go to another country that would offer “housing and protection” as a way of putting this atrocities in the open?..Right now there’s a talk about a Nation to make claims and acusations about this atrocities to the International comunity, since we all know is happening all over the Nation, and there’s no “freedom of speech” since everybody know that our Press is controlled and no chance of getting in our news anytime soon, then I tell you, I would take that chance right now.
I rather go to a place where I can have the “chance” to be happy and getting a normal life for me and my family, than staying here and go down in a “slow death” like a sheep, since i tell them what I think about them, in the privacy of my home, no matter what, you can not have a normal life.
Despite all of my efforts to do so. So no matter what, at this point of my life, I rather do my own fight and my defiant position towards them won’t change. I’ve been taking this for too long. If the chance to get out is there, won’t think twice, even if the Techology would continue torturing me ( that i know can torture you anywhere you go). The time to do something is now, wake up people, don’t go down pretending that nothing is happening.
Comment by mara | March 30, 2007 |
Hi mara.
I think it’s a good sentiment to just go someplace and live quitely, but the state won’t allow that as long as they see you as a threat to them, or one of their corporate bed buddies.
This has been going on for a long time now, along with the political assassination and it does not matter if you are rich, poor, black, white, male, female, these people are the same in every generation, and just when we think we have them, they pull out more dirty tricks out of their big old bag of dirty tricks.
I just don’t see how this is going to change. I have just been reading about John Lennon, and when these things happen, no one questions them or has the power to do anything about it, and it never changes.
I don’t know, people just seem happy being told what to do, where to go. If not by the state then by some other force, why wouldn’t the state step in and take advantage of the sheep population that does not take the time to think for themselves and who are happy to do what they are told?
Comment by gangstalking | March 31, 2007 |
Absolutely, we did not pick this life. I am a victim in california and I am giving my stalkers a run for their money. I do not sit at home and cry over the circumstances I face. I have enrolled to college, and even though they try to harass me on my campus, I have been able to maintain good grades and even plan on going to law school. My success is all do to the person I have always been and perhaps this is the same reason why I was chosen to be a victim of this type of crime. I have never been a follower. I have always been perceived as thinking I was better than others, and that was not the case. This all started when I went against a friend whom wanted me to be involved in some shipping scheme and after that I was targeted by this band of sociopaths. The tactics that are used on me is Radio Frequency, Microwave, and I think an antena that a neighbor has that is about 15 feet high in a residential street. Not to mention street theater and car brighting. My vehicle is certainly planted with some type of gps tracking system because even when I am on the freeway the perps going past on the other side of the freeway at night turn on their high beem when I get close to them on the adjacent side of the freeway. These are stupid ignorant people whom have nothing better to do. How many individuals you live a happy life are involved in something so stupid. I make sure I say those things around them and constantly say things to make them know how stupid and illiterate they are. I am sure it has a negative affect on them. I have learned to use psychology on them and they do not know me as well as they think they do, because they are always eavsdropping, I put on a show for them and only say what I want them to think or know. I have outsmarted my stalkers and they are my puppets, I already know what to expect from them.
Comment by valley girl | April 6, 2007 |
here is my adventures in the torture and terror
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Comment by anonymous target | April 7, 2007 |
I know *someone* has been investigating me for about 14 years. The more I read on the subject of gangstalking, the more similarities I see to my own personal situation. It’s interesting, to say the least to watch and observe the people who are involved in this. Seems they try to recruit everyone they can, and use the same old boring tactics over and over again. There are so many similarities in a lot of the accounts to simply dismiss it as paranoia, or schitzophrenia. I do think denial comes into play, however….especially the gaslighting part of it. It’s a pretty horrible thing that no-one wants to believe.
But a good sense of humor helps. Personally, I like to do things to mess with them and fight back. (like escape from time to time : ) As much money as they’re spending to trying to mess with people….Wouldn’t it be nice if they actually did something to help those in need? It’s a shame.
But just wanted to say thank you, and good job with the site.
I think and hope they’re going to be exposed for just what they are very soon.
Comment by Prank them | April 27, 2007 |
been a victim all my life, from what i now know and can remember….i personally think subjects are chosen at birth, maybe random who knows….every coin has 2 sides, with out comformist there has to be non conformists to keep this pethetic excuse for a modern day society afloat…just as hard working members of the public are processed through schools so are the none comformists to keep it evenly balanced….keeep a close eye on your youngsters going through school…this type of gang stalking is happening at a much earlier ages than we know off…personally i had memoery blockers that i have somehow over come and i remember now….scary stuff!!!esp when you feel all alone with this…..i wish you all the very very best of luck.
yrs sincerly mcvicar
Comment by wallace | April 28, 2007 |
I too have been a target all of my life, at first when I did a search for any information that would help me understand what was happening to me, I thought that this just started at a point in my life around 20 years ago. Now that I am becoming more knowledgeable I realize that is not the case.
I have had memories come flooding back to me and I can see that this is something very,very sinister to say the least. The abuse, the psychological torture that is done to children is by far the most reprehensible activity I an think of. But then again those who are doing this are reprobates and criminally insane. I can not understand why any one would go along with this and how those in high places get away with this, It just makes me believe that most of humanity has a sado-masochistic streak embedded in its very basic nature or genetic makeup. We have been given the choice to do right or wrong, most are taking the low road and have decided to become as base as they an be. I for one stand for life liberty and the pursuit of happiness as long as it is based on the precepts that GOD is in control and that we must have respect for our fellow human beings and to do everything we can to help,nurture and love one another even when we don’t agree with them. This is easier to do than some people might think. We are all here together in this big boat, why not make the best of it ?
Comment by Robert | June 15, 2007 |
I have found that many sites quote and or mirror other sites and something I find disturbing is the references to homosexuals and criminals. This is being used in the context that the perpetrators are using lies about “innocent” victims being “homosexual or criminals” these references are unfair and cause those classes to be further targeted and looked down upon.
Please understand that this is important to me especially because I identify with being a gay man, although I do not actively live that lifestyle. I am also a targeted individual and have been all of my life, I was born into this and have been tortured constantly. One of the ways I am harassed and tortured is to be arrested and charged with false crimes or crimes that only gay people might be charged with, this being called “rat f*cking”and or baiting . This is only one way that I am being targeted but is the most painful, even more so then any DEW.
I believe that many gays are being targeted in this way and I am sure that this is so shameful to many that they will not speak about this aspect or come forward, I for one have to make it known that this is a horrible thing being done to me and that it is shame based targeting. The references to homosexuals and criminals make this seem as though it is acceptable to be targeted because we are bad and deserve to be tortured.
No one deserves this, all human life is valuable even if the lifestyle is vehemently denounced.
I would greatly appreciate that it be understood, that if someone has a criminal record or is homosexual,that it is NOT ok to be used as a way to make the point known that people are being lied about in this way or to be targeted. Those who are perpetrating crimes against humanity bank on using fears of those who are underclassed or who live alternate lifestyles should be the first to go, where does this persecution end and with whom ?
A Targeted Individual in New York
Comment by Robert | June 15, 2007 |
Have Faith…..
Comment by Hughie | October 30, 2009 |
UK Victim – female.
I have just worked out what has been happening to me and it is not very nice at all. It meant that I was sectioned as I was so shocked and also have a major inconvenience of being electronically harassed as well. I thought I was going to die – as was chased and I was sent me an awful magazine which frightened me so much that I tried to take my life twice in the end.
Both very difficult to prove to a wider audience. I have employed a counselor who actually believes the gang stalking bit. I have yet to tell her about the electronic harassment – seems far fetched – well it is isn’t it?- but it is happening. I have also employed a private psychologist – who basically believes the two – however she has yet to get to how it effects me. The psychologist still wants me to take drugs – nope – won’t go there. So I can cope better?
I have been told life will be difficult – well it is very difficult. A husband who won’t come into my world. My mother has and believes me mostly. My little brother thinks I am nuts and should be locked up. My older brother just has not been anywhere or done a lot of things in life – although give him his due he had heard of gang stalking – so perhaps initially that was a little harsh
I am not a nutter and pretty normal considering – but it is going to be tough to get people to believe it. You can’t see either.
The other thing is that this all stems from what we percieve as the crises teams for mental health – who will believe that? Well I do for one – a mate of mine when they arrived at her house nearly wet herself and then closed all curtains etc etc….. When I went to see here afterwards she just would not speak at all. I could not understand it at the time. Now I do. Her parents must have informed her at one time as they were nurses for the team once. I have known her for years and she would have got married to my brother at one time.
I am still in disbelief – I feel like I am watched 24/7 – well I suppose I am. I have done so much research that I am an expert on mind control and gang stalking. I can explain it eloquently and without too much waffle. Mine covers Psychotronics, surveillance, tracking, – ie followed everywhere. I am also thinking it covers synthetic telepathy too. I have the works basically. I did not realise this happens in Britain. My recruiter was via a life coach and counselor who basically was not who she said she was. There was cover in there somewhere.
All of this is so long winded and difficult to explain that I would take over the space. Just watch your back if you harassed – and try to get on with things as normal. To be honest my life has changed dramatically – and I don’t like it one bit.
The electronic harassment is the difficult one – hurtful – painful – sleeping is difficult – everything is difficult – you even have physical symptoms which a vast in range.
Why me is all I keep asking me. Power and money I was told.
Chicken
Comment by Chicken | July 6, 2007 |
I have been a victim of gang stalking for several years. During this time I have been gang raped and brutalized on more than one occasion. Unfortunately for me, I met a man dressed in a pilot’s uniform several years ago. We e-mailed and then he disappeared only to reappear one year later to begin his stalking. Within weeks of his reemergence, I was raped by him. I thought after the rape he would leave, he did not. He returned night after night until I broke my lease and moved. When I moved, he follwed with more pilots and stews. I moved again and this time I was gang raped, my house and belongings destroyed, pets killed, etc. I have filed police reports, but everything seems to disappear. After reading about gang stalking, I called some family members who were retired policemen. I told them what was happening and who is behind it. They told me that the pilot I met originally lived next door to my cousin’s over 30 years ago and his father was a leader in the mafia until his death over 18 years ago. I guess my meeting him was not an accident. He had met me long ago and I guess he just watched me for years before attacking.
If you are a victim of electronic harassment, unplug your microwave. Microwave mind control is big with gang stalkers. Also hide your computer, lap tops, VCRs and radios at night far away from the room you sleep in. I know it sounds strange, but once you unplug the microwave, they will find ways to signal anything with an audio output box, this includes radios and yes, VCRs. After removing my VCR and radio and unplugging the microwave, I no longer hear these creeps at night talking about sex and begging to have intercourse with me again.
Please stay safe. We can all find ways to get our lives back again. These people are nothing but losers with too much time on their hands. I am going to write to the cellphone companies to ask them to do something about the cellphone towers. From my understanding these perps can signal the cellphone towers to use V2S, etc on a victim. If you have a cellphone, put it in a glass container at night. This will prevent the gang stalker from draining your battery and force them to find another way to contact you during the night. If you are finding your battery dead/drained, they are using your cellphone against you.
Good luck and God Bless. Stay Strong and do not give into these people. If you are a single woman and being harassed do not isolate yourself because these men are looking for prositutes. I know my particular group is looking to get women to prostitute while on layovers in Chicago, Illinois. I know a lot about my perpetrators now because they have been with me so long and have made so many ridiculous comments and so many stupid mistakes. Hang on and be strong. Let’s fight this battle together.
Comment by GMR | July 11, 2007 |
hello everyone, after another night of electronic torture, I had time to reflect about our ordeal and came up with an idea to fight back these organized thugs: to publicly expose them all by taking pictures of them, learn their names, where they live, where they work, their car’s plates#s, videotape them and publish this in YouTube, break.com, and/or every website we can possibly know. This is the only way we can make other innocent or unsuspecting collaborators that they are not working for a good cause. I am sure that many of us know their stalkers by now, in my case I have an extensive record on these criminals and will be very satisfied to expose them to the world just like they have done to us. Let’s do it together, anyway, we are absolutely stronger than the stalkers because they wouldn’t ever been able to put up with all we have so far.
Comment by ma | July 18, 2007 |
Gangstalkers practice “social engineering” wanting to have their victims believe bizarre things that are just not true. They also post their own false, crazy sounding accounts of being gangstalked.
Comment by T.L.R. | July 20, 2007 |
I have gangstalking and harassment every mortal minute; I seem to be one of the “intensively” managed TI’s. Check me out at above blog, and feel free to contact me and/or add me to your links list.
John
Comment by John Hughes | July 21, 2007 |
I am concerned with T.L.R. comment. It sounds exactly as the gangstalkers of my area who manage to use innocent people against me and others by accusing us of the very same crimes they (the gangstalkers) are committing. Interestingly enough, my stalkers use the same words’ game as T.L.R. posting.
Comment by ma | July 22, 2007 |
I am concerned with ma comment. It sounds exactly as the gangstalkers of my area who manage to use innocent people against me and others by accusing us of the very same crimes they (the gangstalkers) are committing. Interestingly enough, my stalkers use the same words’ game as ma posting.
“ma” is a dis-info stalker. Do not post pictures that identify anyone on YouTube or anywhere else. You would open yourself up for legal action by those identified because you cannot prove they are stalkers. That is part of what they want along with labeling victims as “paranoid schizophrenics” or “crazy”.
Do not “act out” or react in public or inside your home to the stalking assaults. All reactions to assault provocations are recorded and are used against you to show to law enforcement and others how unstable, dangerous or crazy you are.
Turn in tag numbers and photos/movies to law enforcement, but know that the stalkers are always running a smear campaign that primarily includes subverting law enforcement against you.
Comment by getreal | July 22, 2007 |
Getreal,
You are so right. I was gang stalked in a low income community. They turned the police against me and management went along with it because I was complaining about violations commited by management etc. They even went to court and tried to get restraining orders against me. The judge and police and jon berkely managemnt and sacramento mutual housing association just wanted to shut me up, so they could continue raising the rents in low income housing and keep the real estate values high by covering up the amount of crime in davis california. yolo county is a sick corrupt group of gangstalkers. all they care about is money, intimidation and control. they even put a gps on my car. one of the tenants who was married to a son of a police lieutenant (the son had 2 strikes against him) any way she was a criminal too and had access to a wire tap, i’m sure of it. she could have been a confidential informant. any way it was disgusting how these criminals were able to continually break the law and the police did nothing about it. these guys were awful i’m so glad i don’t live there any more but they have followed me through the airwaves. these people will rot in hell they just don’t know that they will end up being the target. it’s sad i kind of feel sorry for them.
Comment by Sara Lee | June 1, 2009 |
It’s fine to post pictures and information that doesn’t specifically accuse anyone. Or post anything you can get if you feel you have nothing left to lose.
Exposing the perpetrators and what they are doing is a good thing. “Losing it” and “acting out” is always a bad thing.
And don’t forget about the so called “secret society” connections that run through this. They are real and are at least being questioned openly in the UK now.
Comment by getreal | July 22, 2007 |
I agree that acting out in public such as hurting them is not good. (Don’t get me wrong, If you have to get them out of your face then do what you have to do.) I however after a year of awareness of this crap found what works really well. Expose them. You don’t have to get all violent and stuff, just expose them. Right there up in there face.
Use the words snitches in their presence, they love that, or spies, or anything that let’s them and those around them know that they are civilian spies. I freaking love this. You can do this subtly or outlandishly, as it suits your character, and this after much experimenting has been most affective.
They scatter, or look confused, or just get lost, or look embarrassed. It works, and you don’t have to bash skulls. Most of these people have no idea that the target is aware of what is going on, so you have the element of suprise, use it. It works.
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Comment by Gangstalking | July 22, 2007 |
I am absolutely convinced that “T.L.R.” and “getreal” are the same woman who is directing the gangstalking against me and my family. since this woman has mirrored my computer, she, the gangstalker, counterattack my reports rephrasing my valid and ready to probe accounts. therefore, is very difficult for me to contact anyone knowing that this woman is right at her computer reading my comments and creating such counteraccusations. Thus, being a 24/4 TI looking for help on the web it turns into a double edge sword because our gangstalkers have no problem creating doubt among the web community just like they do in our neighborhoods, no face, no problem. The fact that this psycho woman is already creating issues against me using my own postings, is really scary. Fellows beware, this is their M.O.
Comment by ma | July 22, 2007 |
To my gangstalker: be advise that when I take you to court, which I will very soon, I will subpoena everything, including your webstalking. So please stop stalking me. I am a human being just like you and I have done nothing to take anything from you. On the contrary, you have even robbed me from the air I breath because you are contaminating it with whatever your using to torture me and my family. How would you feel if your mother would be going through this hell? Give us a break, or else, you will be exposed very soon!
Comment by ma | July 22, 2007 |
A follow up to my posting on how I got convinced that “T.L.R” and “getreal” are my same gangstalker is among other phrases, I have called my gangstalkers a “paranoid schizophrenics”, my gangstalker has threatened other TIs with legal action if they post anything about her with “legal action”. Then, my stalker initials are “S.L.R”, what a coincidence, right? There is no doubt that the gangstalkers themselves have pushed us against the wall every time we try to expose them. Further, this gangstalking is not a local situation, the scope of these criminal organizations is so broad that follows you everywhere: jobs, hospitals, restaurants, church, your own house, and includes many nembers of the police as well. In fact, I have videos showing the daily police harassment as well as my stalker directing the harassment from her balcony, stalking me around the block, and even following me to the laundromat where she sits across the street to watch me while I do my laundry. How could this not probe she is the gangstalker? What about the many bogus lawsuits she brought against me trying to get me out of my Co-op? What about the assaults that the service men has freely done against me when she is in charge of them? How come she is not afraid of legal action against her after all they have done to me that is on tape but the police dismiss everytime? Please beware, T.L.R is my gangstalker S.L.R.!
Comment by ma | July 22, 2007 |
Quote “ma”- “A follow up to my posting on how I got convinced that “T.L.R” and “getreal” are my same gangstalker is among other phrases…”
If you had done research on perpetrator postings and behavior, you would know that victims/targets are usually called “Paranoid schizophrenic” or just crazy. That accusation is common, although almost worn out at this point. They also post some of bizarre disjointed accounts in an attempt to discredit real victims.
If you are a victim your computer might be monitored and the woman you are talking about, if she is behind it, has probably spread lies about you. You should research what perps have been doing to others. You should also find out if this woman is a member of any “social groups/clubs” or “citizens groups” in your area.
I’m not a stalking perp. I thought you might be because you accused first, that is the usual way they operate, but it is almost impossible to know who is what. If you want to post, that is just the way it is, nothing unusual. I apologize if I upset you in any way.
If you have assets, the perps will sue you with any reason they can manufacture. They will even produce “straw man” law suits if they can. Suing a target is not unusual either.
Most of these crimes are based on money paid to finance the stalking operation or the prospect of obtaining money through fraud or other illegal trickery.
Comment by T.L.R. | July 23, 2007 |
Although I hate engaging with anyone in particular because this is not a debate, I will make my final point regarding posting #30.Right after I posted posting #20, T.L.R. posted something that tries to undermine the horrifying reality of being gangstalked that involves any possible form of torture wheaher it sounds bizarre, crazy, or false. Not only it is well known that gangstalkers themselves will try to establish none of what they do is true, but their M.O. has always been to counteraccuse their victims. More alarming is the fact that gangstalkers used as another form of psychological attacks to mimic their victims, ex.: wearing their same cloth, or repeating what TIs say. Therefore, comment #24 exactly does that: repeat word by word my posting using it against me, my gangstalker uses my words all the time even in our Co-op’s communications. Then, my gangstalker’s name initials are S.L.R. and this person posting for the first time right after my posting, signs as T.L.R. It is really weird that the pattern of harassment of gagnstalkers has been used to formulate comment #24, using every word in my posting. Finally, to my gangstalker S.L.R, you know I have hundreds of hours of videos, evidences of all sort about your torture/harassment, you know you have mirrored my computer and my life and you are trying to stop me from looking for support from other TIs just like you have assasinated my character in my neighborhood. Let me tell you clearly that the reason why you are doing all this to me is because I am better than you, I am actually a hero in this war because you would never be able to endure so much torment you have put me and my family through as I have valiantly have for more than 10yrs. Let me assure you that if you have bended all my ways you have never broke me down and you wont intimidate me anymore as to expose you everywhere so be prepared because your time is UP COWARD!
Comment by ma | July 23, 2007 |
Freemasonry is a criminal organisation
A Freemason is a person who knowingly destroys peoples lives for self gain.
Freemasons portray themselves as a good charitable fraternity of men. They own the media so they get to say what they want. They have infiltrated all of society. It is nothing less than an international money making scam (same as the crooked pyramid schemes). Did you know that the ninth degree Masons take their vows to kill for Freemasonry ???? some charity. Masons are also the NWO’s foot-soldiers. All secret societies, orders and cults are as one (intertwined) with this evil human virus called “Freemasonry”.
In defence of most Masons, they were conned in the first place. They were led to believe it was a good fraternity of men, then they were hoodwinked and threatened with violence. If they had known this before they joined, nobody would have anywhere near them. Masons are trapped into this extreme evil, they are too scared to talk freely. They have become FM slaves and most have become crooked benefactors.
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Freemasons are the invisible terrorists within the local community. They could literally clear up crime in 24 hours with the technology available. We pay for it and they get to abuse it. Did you know that 90% of Taxi
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Forget worrying about the I.D. cards and eventual Microchip, your mobile phone is your 24/7 electronic tag. They already know your every move and calls since you bought one. Now, don’t get us wrong, we all need security and we do respect the non-Masonic government officials and non-Masonic professional people. Freemasonry is illegal under International Law, Humanitarian Law and Common Sense Law.
We at SF have started sending this information to the neighbours of Masons. We fully intend to name and shame all Masons to their families, friends, neighbours, colleagues and relatives. The FM perpetrators, infiltrators and spoilers deserve their name to go down in history as the most evil, vile, despicable things that ever breathed on this planet. They do not like us doing this, but then, Masons don’t mind secretly destroying families for self gain. It is seriously in the public interest to ban the practice of Secret Societies. You, your family and the planets immediate future depends on your knowledge or ignorance. open your eyes.
Freemasonry is such a wonderful organisation and they say they do good in the community (illusion)
OK, why do the members have to pay ? why the secrets ? why the evil divide and conquer tactics ? why the vicious fabricated rumours by getting Masons and non-Masons to hate a local targeted victim ? (all local evil Masons watch the victim and their family being destroyed). Masons also say the victim is a brother “gone wrong” so that all the local “pretend brothers” will collectively persecute. This is undiluted evil and can easily be let loose on anyone, top Mason or not. Why can’t good be done for free ? Why not the whole community ? instead of chosen candidates (Masons cherry pick their slaves). Second Family (UK) is “FREE” to all.
A Freemason is a fool and a tool to be used by the establishment. There are 5 million Masons worldwide paying money (crooked Masonic businesses pay lots more) to the very wealthy American/Israelis families.
This is where the gigantic amounts of cash go every week. What idiot would want to make the rich even richer ? All we can say to Masons is that when you were born, you knew nothing. Why don’t you ask your organisation for answers. Beware of one sided answers. Get online and do your own research.
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Please remember that we at SF can back up absolutely everything we say. This is why we want a live debate with the FMs. Second Family (UK) hates no one, hatred doesn’t work. Unfortunately the Masons defend their trillion, trillion (hugely underestimated) crimes against the planet and it’s contents, FMs try to defend the indefensible. They are protecting their plunder. If they are supposed to be a good charitable fraternity of men, why the false taboo ? why are their victims in constant fear for their lives ? and why would they keep taking down every comment or website that reveals or says anything about them ?
On top of all this, Freemasonry is witchcraft. This is common knowledge all over the internet. This human virus is brainwashing people all over the world (especially poor people in desperate countries) every day. This is to protect the world’s richest families and bloodlines.
We at Second Family (UK) claim to be the only genuine, independent support group for victims of Freemasonry in the UK. We have nothing to hide and can back everything up no problem at all. If you know any Masons, please forward their details for our “SF’s Public Register Of Masons” We will investigate just to make sure there is no malice by other Masons or others. It’s not all bad news, everyone on the internet is waking up to this evil, their are huge anti – Mason groups and websites all over the world. Also checkout U-Tube, Google, Guba, etc, or just follow the links SF has given you. Never be intimidated by Freemasonry (false taboo & gobble de gook) if you are not sure, you can always double check with us.
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Comment by Joe Stirling | August 9, 2007 |
The problem here is that though I don’t doubt that Mason do their share of garbage, what we are talking about here with gang stalking is something that is societal, that Christians, Jews, Muslims, etc, all take part in. I have people that I know who are doing this that are not Masons, they are just average citizens that are being forced by our corrupt societal system to go along with this. They are too scared, weak to do anything about it.
Joe if you are real great, but I can’t help but notice your posts show up everytime I some revelation occurs that will lead people in the correct direction to throw them onto the Masons, which I think is just more disinfo, just like David Lawson.
Comment by Gangstalking | August 10, 2007 |
Without a doubt Freemasonry is central to gang stalking. They are the instigators and organizers having worked very hard to have the required laws passed and relevant institutions set up. In 2000 the Investigatory Powers Act (RIPA) was passed allowing any lowly constable to initiate investigation of any individual with a large budget allocated as long as and application is signed off by a senior officer or civil servant. Check out the following link for the application and look around the site under Home Office RIPA in the UK.
So when the target reacts to the harassment and corrupted “investigation” then the case is referred to the Fixated Threat Assessment Centre otherwise known as the Home Office secret stalker squad as it is commonly called by practitioners of silent murder. I have been told up to 4000 people a year are chosen for this treatment and it is sustained for 1000 indefinitely. Of course the good men of the Freemasons will offer a helpful hand as part of the police informer network and readily employ their own stalkers tactics to induce fear and paranoia in their target to sustain the funding from the public purse. The is no external oversight with this process and it is exempted from the Freedom of Information Act and the Data Protection Act 1998 because it is an on going investigation.
Comment by AM | August 11, 2007 |
The person that started the organized assaults against me is involved with the Freemasons, and I have seen Freemason emblems and stickers on gangstalker’s vehicles.
Long before this started I had also received threats from Masons in some business dealings, but never understood what they meant until now.
Comment by gangstalked | August 11, 2007 |
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Comment by Visitor062 | August 12, 2007 |
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Comment by Visitor652 | August 12, 2007 |
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Comment by Visitor549 | August 12, 2007 |
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Comment by Visitor671 | August 12, 2007 |
Again I am not denying their involvement, but the problem is that what I am seeing is something systemic. Wither they are the forces behind this systemic system or not, them illuminati, I would just like to get more research.
This things that I can confirm myself I feel confortable documenting. The book The Brotherhood, I am comfortable with because he was someone on the inside, but it’s hard to find good research on these people.
Also I don’t think targets should get too focused on one aspect of this. Because even if they are the forces behind this, we still have hundreads of thousands of people who are doing this stalking spying, and none of them are Masons, many are just average citizens doing what they are being asked to do by the State.
Comment by Gangstalking | August 12, 2007 |
Notice comments 36,37,38,39. I would be careful about clicking on them. I’ve seen the same type of posts after someone mentions the “society with secrets”.
Comment by anon | August 21, 2007 |
Are there places in the world where gangstalking and electronic harassment does not exist? I have been a victim for a couple of years now. This is terrible, i have done nothing to deserve the abuse.
Comment by eric h | October 2, 2007 |
Hi eric h. There might be some places left. I have heard of other leaving, I just don’t know if when they arrive if if will be snitch free.
The snitching system started as far back as the British empire, so thus all their colonies, and other places they use to own, probably have thier own snitching system.
I think places in the middle east might be safe still, but who wants to live there, and considering our countries will most likely aggressively attack them in future, it’s probably not safe.
There might be other places, because the reports have not come from every place yet. If there are still safe places, they will most likely at some point be infiltrated, or visiously attacked, under the guise of protecting ourselves. We already have the European union, and now the North American Union is coming soon, I think any countries that are part of those unions can be considered not safe anymore. Fascist dictatorship rears it’s ugly head once more and we are almost in fourth reich, but no one seems to be noticing.
Comment by gangstalking | October 4, 2007 |
Remember eric h. None conformaty is a crime now. Not being a mindless robot, or sheeple like everyone else is treason of the highest order. In there books we have done something wrong, and only God in the heavens seems to be able to clear us.
Yet it’s more simple than that, we have seen this before in Hitler’s Germany. The same thing done then is being done now. I alway thought dictatorships were obvious and people would know if they were living in one, but they don’t. Not everyone who lives in a police state recognises it for what it is. People just have to come to the truth in their own time. I would not have believed this if I had not experienced it.
Comment by gangstalking | October 4, 2007 |
I believe and HAVE PROOF that the masons are behind a great deal of what goes on in my gangstalked experience.
Please explain what you mean by disinfo of david lawson. Thank you.
Comment by voxy | October 24, 2007 |
I know based on his book the brotherhood, Stephen Knight did say that Masons do opperate in this manner, but then so do cults. Before Jeremy and Teresa were murdered or (commited suicided allegidly.) they thought that it was Scientologist. I have had gay men write in who swear that it’s religious groups doing it. I have had others who swear that it’s gang bangers in their area doing it.
I have had others swear that it’s racist skin heads doing it. I believe that each in their own way is right, because most of society is taking part in this.
They just use what they can against targets. You could say that Christians are doing this and you would be right, but it does not mean that it’s a Christian conspiracy. This is part of a societal system of control. Who is running it is government, and what is behind them could be illuminati or whatever, but since I have no way of researching the illuminati, then all I can do is go with what I have.
Tim Fields found the same apparatus when he research bullying, and before he could look into the appartatus and how it obstructed from the bottom to the top, he died.
The guy who wrote Red Squads protectors of privillege died shortly after writing that book.
Then ofcourse we know Stephen Knight died about a year or so after writing the brotherhood. Which exposed Masons and their practices.
I don’t know if any of the people who wrote the Buzzsaw have had any problems yet, but I am waiting and keeping an eye out.
It’s all the same system. It controls everyone. Those who know, don’t speak out, and those who don’t know, would just simply not believe, unless you are lucky enough to be a target, then I don’t think most people would speak out otherwise. They are getting rid of the best the brightest, the outspoken, so that there will be no one and nothing to stand in the way of the one world system that is coming down the line. We are just seeing the slow and subtle implementation of it.
Comment by gangstalking | October 29, 2007 |
Looks like the GangstalkingWorld.com website is down. Looking into it further it appears to be a DNS resolution issue. Does anybody know or care to share what happened to the site.
Bill
Comment by Bill | November 5, 2007 |
Glad to read posts by people who have survived so many years and are still capable of typing coherent sentences. This is new to me, less than six months in, and I’m a wreck. I was praying my thyroid bloodwork would show I was medicatable (finally) instead it shows up perfect. Along with ALL other bloodwork, even though I have horizontal red and white lines in my nail beds, I’m so tired I can’t get off the couch some days, my blood pressure is so nutty, my face so puffy and pale, that this time my doctor ordered the blood work, all was well. Even blood sugar, even though I hadn’t eaten since the day before and had been awake all night and all morning. Hm….
Anyway, interestingly, my doc ordered a DRUG TEST, which of course showed nothing except my medication. A police oficer also watched the nurse draw the blood. How do I know for sure she was a cop? She wasn’t in uniform, but she did have her radio/phone walkie with her, and guess what? A call came in about some wreck up the road as she sat there. She darted me a scared glance and bolted out to converse. I’m going to have a video camera with me to capture these special moments from now on.
Comment by LouJones | November 7, 2007 |
Sorry for the double post, another fun thing at the doc’s that day was two supposed lovebirds taking photos of each other with their little camera phone. But I looked up, and darned if it wasn’t me on the screen in one shot, with neither of them anywhere to be seen. An older lady came and sat down between me and the two amateur snoops as soon as she saw me trying to get another look at what they had on their phone. Next time, these people will be the ones saying cheese!
Comment by LouJones | November 7, 2007 |
Hey there! I was worried the gangstalking world website was fone forever! good to see it back on line.
Since I last emailed you I referred the pyschiatrist I am oblidged to see every few months to the site, hopefully gangstalking is a phenomenon which has gone on the record with the mental health services.
I also got detained for about 20 minutes by the police for having skunk, and I told them to visit the site, one of them is bound to have.
thats about it, good luck everyone, I look forward to the site being fully functional again, its invaluable.
Comment by JP | November 7, 2007 |
Seems the school shooter who felt the only way to get his voice heard was to kill several people had watched idiocracy by mike judge and it had resonated with him.
he would have been better off writing gangstalking world on every available surface.
If he was the victim of gangstalking, one of his biggest pains would have been the family he was to leave behind.
If he valued that pain as legitimate, why inflict it on more families??
If he was gangstalked they would have had his emotional state highly monitored, and would have condoned the seeming random killings, or influenced them.
My minds yet to be decided on this one, with so much propaganda to keep the gangstalking troops morale up, and the targets down, It wouldn’t surprise me if people sensitive to this get affected.
Comment by JP | November 12, 2007 |
Anyone remember this guy? Without him, you and your site wouldn’t have an audience. At the time of his earlier work, there was but three web sites related to gang-stalking. Now, Google returns 76,100 results.
Your ideas and “strategies” for dealing with the issues you present on this blog are flawed. If you want to solve your problem, get back to me:
theo_knock@yahoo.com
Comment by Theodore S. Knock | December 1, 2007 |
I have been gang stalked and electronically harassed for 15 months that I know of. I came about this solution once I started reading about gang stalking on the internet. I kept trying to figure out what it was, who it was. I have lost everything. Oh well. I am harassed because Iam gay. I hear Fag and Faggot everywhere I go, and around my home constantly. I am followed wherever I go. Police and FBI suck. This is a group of Hispanics. Two involved live at 300 s. Calle El Segundo #205-Palm SPrings,CA Female:20-25 yo, 130lbs,Pink and Black Hair, EVIL. Male:White, 5′8″ to 5′11″, 180lbs, shaved head,Goes by the name of Steve as she calls him. They drive a Burgundy Ford Explorer year 2000-2004. Others involved live in that same apartment complex. Others involved live in Desert Hot Springs,CA, one by the name of Ramon. Others live in Palm Springs,CA off of Whitewater Club. They have harassed another friend of mine over there. At my old house in Cathedral City they were brazen enough to enter the house and get in the attic and cut the Air Conditioning support straps so they could maneuver around the attic with better ease. They would say things down the AC vents and Exhaust Fan Vents even while family and friends were there. This still is ongoing to this day. All day you hear foul language. From her you hear “God”, “See”, “Oh My God” you also hear her pleading with Steve that maybe this has gone to far and they should stop. THis is just another sick game in fuckingwith your head. Steve will say: “Fag”, “Faggot”,”Fuck Him”, “Fuck Off” and “Fuck YOu”. Everything usually starts with an “F”. Mental Midgets who are sociopathic degenerates. I have ordered a Thermal Imaging unit to locate them in my home. If I find them in here I am going to have to kill them. They have followed me to Eugene, Oregon and San Francisco. These people are the sickest of the sick. I learned that their is a gang leader by the name of “SARA” in the Palm Springs area and their are more and more reports of this happening out their. That is where it all started and it is still going on in Hemet,CA today. I am pulsed with electronic weapons that make you: Tired, Nauseated, Sweat, Sneeze, Stomach Ached, Diarrhea etc. These people are sickos.
Comment by Chuck | December 13, 2007 |
Hi JP,
It’s all there, and it’s all good. I am sure that just makes you thrilled.
Comment by gangstalking | January 28, 2008 |
Hi I have been there, still am actually. After going through a very horrible experience with a freemason it has been nothing but hell on earth, lost my job, almost lost my family. He basically did to me as he please yet I am unable to go to the authorities because at this point I just don’t know how much more my family and I can take. If someone from this blog would like to email me I have a blog in which I used to start posting the harassing msn and email messages which took some of the wind out of their sails. I have been looking for a site such as this one for a long time now. At moments this cyber stalking and bullying very nearly drove me insane. This is not drama it is reality, it has not ended for me yet nor do I expect it to stop anytime soon. I was hoping a site like this one existed somewhere in which we would no longer feel isolated and told we are nuts because that has been the hardest part of all of this. No one understands and very few believe you.
Comment by Been there | February 9, 2008 |
sorry previous post had the wrong email address.
Comment by Been there | February 9, 2008 |
Ok looks like the previous post didnt make it to the forum. I am a bit excited about finding this forum, because I have been harassed by these people for almost two years now.
Several years ago I met a freemason online:
Im a bit nervous about doing this but… I obtained a management position within the company I worked for. I entered the online world because I was stressed and really just wanted a diversion from the “real” everyday world of responsibilities. My grandfather and great grandfather were freemasons and my mother has recently started opening up about her experiences during the second world war and time spent in the lodge and the sorts of things which the children were taught to chant etc.
Personally I made the mistake of meeting a man whom I thought was very well educated and interesting, witty arrogant an engineer and a freemason.
I don’t know if I’m putting myself or my family in danger for discussing this but I can’t live with it anymore.
I wasn’t interested in an affair as I’m married. Some of his emails are very very vivid portrayals of multiple sex partners and female submission and degradation. I have them saved. I did meet him and what happened was nothing short of sex slave training. I am also an adult survivor of child abuse. I dont want to go into the entire sordid 16 month ordeal but it’s fair to say this is not a lie, in whatever form and for whatever reason this is happening and I have been harassed and watched online because of it ever since I broke it off and determined to find a way to let people know.
I posted that story on other forums and it was either removed or I was locked out. I hope that will not happen here. I also have a blog although in which I started recording and posting some of the comments and msn chats I was receiving online. That seemed to send them underground for a bit.
I have book marked this page and if the forum owner would like to contact me via email I am willing to share more of the story upon request.
What they are doing to people is far beyond wrong and I want to help stop this in anyway I can.
Be well everyone!
Comment by Been there | February 9, 2008 |
Hi Been there,
Sorry to hear about what you are going through.
You say the person who started this was a Freemanson, when did you realise it was Gang Stalking? Just because with Gang Stalking most of us really do struggle to pinpoint when the weirdness really began. Just curious.
Comment by gangstalking | February 21, 2008 |
This unfortunately is my second response to the above query. First one disappeared but it’s ok I take the time to take snapshots of forums and save them as paint doc. If anyone else is looking for information on true “personal empowerment” send me an email, will tell you about tips and tricks I use to keep sanity and deal with this “stuff”.
smartin_44440@hotmail.com
The deleted comment was:
February 21, 2008
“I posted my comment on this forum several weeks ago. I updated my blog on Feb. 21, 2008 and received the above query on the same night. These are the types of scenario’s that help me pin point stalking activity.”
Comment by Been there | February 25, 2008 |
is it just me or isit that no one see’s the whole reason behind these stalking groups,i hear alot of people giveing many a reason. eg; he’s a deviant,or he’s a trouble make or he’s a pervert….its my beleave that the public stalkers and there groups are delusionsal!! they only see what there eye’s want them to see and herewhat they want to hear…its the goverment stalker groups group i beleave we all have to awear off.im my case my createst strength my feelings…all my life i have felt that something wasnt quite right with the world around me..its my true beleave that subjects are chosen to serve….to serve what you may ask!!! the equal balance of society…i remember when i first felt the presence of te goverment stalkers, i was as young as 5years of age,and i remember them saying “in some body so young as well” hearing them sa this and haveing no idea where the sounds came from consumed mr with fear..needless to say being at such a young age and heaveing this type of thing happen to you if for a reason…a the age of 5 i wasnt a threat to anyone!!! so one has to ask why then… to cut it short its basically a sacrafice,for this society to work thre has to be an equal balance !!! what equal balance you say!!! well were constantly told everthing in the universe has an oposite!! what goesup must come down…if good exsists then so does evil….well what about comformists and none-comformists…i think you know what im getting get!!so next time you read the paper and yu hear of terrible things that individuals have done,ask yurself have they been driven or guilded or contolled…all you have to do to make someone do something ,is make then want to do it..and lets face it!! how many times have you been aware of you stalkers and wanted to ring there necks,our couge thereeyes out with a spoon…you cannot and should not be held accountable for your own action if you are a subject of these goverment and general public stalkers..they know with enough study how to pull someones strings (hense they become a puppit) come on people ,there are no evil babies,we are what we are educated.this system requires us to make sacrifices..and shocking enough there choseing us from what i can recall as early as the age of five…maybe were even chosen before we are born. if there ever is such a thing as god,may god hve mercy on us all.
Comment by daren | March 2, 2008 |
http://www.youtube.com/NewYorkTI
http://www.hometown.aol.com/mairjas/americastargetedindividuals.html
http://www.mysite.verizon.net/vzewuuq8/targetedindividuals/
Greetings Tis! I’ve been dealing with a surge on e-harassment since I went public. I’m e-harassed in and outdoors. The cops are shooting some DEW towards me while following me block by block. Then, the perps follow me inside churches, libraries, my gym, parks, e-harassing me and slandering me. So, it seems that the Gangstalking reward/punishment system is in full opearation. I invite you to watch some of the videos of the Gangstalking I’ve been going through for over 10yrs. Although I have hundreds of videos, I just published a few to illustrate our account of Gangstalking to avoid further gangstalking. This was actually my first site and I got a cyberstalking experience. Well, I reported my cyberstalkers to the Cyberangels and they acknowledged and explained the Gangstalking issue, which made me feel much relieved. Anyway, please don’t hesitate to leave feedback at my videosites. Thanks again and remember to work towards unity.
xoxoxo from New York!
Comment by ma | March 20, 2008 |
http://www.youtube.com/NewYorkTI
http://hometown.aol.com/mairjas/americastargetedindividuals.html
http://mysite.verizon.net/vzewuuq8/targetedindividuals/
Greetings Tis, I hope you can watch my videos about the gangstalking experiences for over 10years. I only posted a few to avoid further cyberstalking. I contacted the cyberangels and they acknowledged and explained issue of Organized Stalking.
XOXOX from NY
Comment by ma | March 20, 2008 |
I have been dealing with a surge of e-harassment since I went public and started networking with other Tis. I’ve been e-harassed and slandered across the spectrum including churches, libraries, public parks, my gym, grocery stores, name it! The police have been shooting some DEW towards me while following me block by block. Then, S.L.R and T. Intrator continue direnting the Organized Stalking inside my building and around my apartment. The e-torture is extremely painful and unbearable which has forced me to become active in exposing these atrocities. What I’ve done is to deliver about 2,000 flyers explaining Organized Stalking and advertising sites about it. I’ve been posting in every local Forum because every neighborhood has several forums where neighbors can post. Lastly, I’ve been working in putting together some websites. I hope this gives you ideas on how to come out of silence.
Working towards unity, may Tis find peace and justice.
love,
Comment by ma | March 20, 2008 |
Sorry about the duplicate comments, the site kept giving me error messages.
Comment by Chuck | December 13, 2007
“gang leader by the name of “SARA” in the Palm Springs”
Chuck the gang leader in my case is SARA too and I used to live in the Palm Springs Area!!! This SARA travels constantly. Although she goes to Israel for “vacations” (actually training) she may very well be around Palm Springs too! I would like to hear more details.
peace
Comment by ma | March 20, 2008 |
The Government is using Citizen Informants to stalk and eliminate Targeted Individuals. The reasons people are targeted is almost the same as why they are targeted for Bullying, and mobbing.
It’s all part of a larger systemic for of control, and conformity. I think it’s funny that people still try to put this on Stalking Gangs, and focus on other individuals, which just sort of distracts from the bigger problem.
This is happening on a global scale, it’s happening to free thinkers, activist, dissidents, none conformists, and then you have the other usual suspects being picked on. This is being used to get rid of those voices of discention that will stand against this one world goverment, this New World Order.
Our plight is tied into what will happen to the rest of humanity. Many of these snitches are caught up in this and are also just realising the bigger picture, yet there are those who for some reason still focus on really unusual aspects of this. I just find it interesting.
Comment by gangstalking | March 24, 2008 |
I’m not sure what I did, or what I know, that caused me to become a target, but it is very obvious that most of the perps have been convinced that I am some kind of a problem, a threat, a nuisance, a whistle blower or even a criminal. I am certain that I have most likely been framed, and have definitely been lied about in order to ruin my reputation, my credibility and my life! Whatever the lies are, I don’t know for sure. However, it has been subtly hinted to me, by the perps, that the lies are many. I have received hints that I was somehow involved with drugs, and that I was a mental case and was considered dangerous. God knows what else has been going on about me!
I have been a victim of organized stalking for more than 14 years by local politicians, city officials, private investigators, church organizations, former and current law enforcement personnel, various police organizations (my husband and I were even a member of one of them until we realized we were one of their TIs!), EMTs, fire fighters, their relatives, friends, and various businesses that support them via auxiliary groups. Also by phone utility workers, National Guardsmen, military personnel and the intelligence community. I recently found out by putting two and two together that I am even being “watched” by certain neighbors with CB radios that can quickly spread the word about my comings and goings. One of those neighbors even shot one of my cats and “the law” did nothing!
My stalking experiences involve numerous repetitive tactics, some of which have been receiving constant and frequent “wrong number” phone calls and spoofing caller ID calls [not really coming from the number that shows up on the caller ID...Research Spoofing phone calls] trying to make me think that everyone is out to get me. Also by receiving calls that claim to be from local police, state police and fire fighters asking for donations. My privacy has been severely invaded by the perps through eavesdropping on my conversations in my own home [wireless bugging], as well as on my conversations from my ground wire telephone and cell phone. The perps always make it a point to let me know that they have eavesdropped on other people’s conversations that I am associated with as well… [AKA roving wire tapping]. The perp’s sadistically taunt me by letting me know what they’ve heard in my conversations by various methods. One method is by having lots of junk mail and spam e-mail sent to me with my conversation-related subject matter in them. Another method is by making sure that I am within ear shot of their acquaintances, “hired strangers” or passersby that are quoting words and even complete exact phrases derived directly from my private conversations [AKA street theatre]. Other measures of harassment have included suppressing my efforts to make and keep friends, or to hold a job by causing those efforts to fail through mobbing or lies. This always makes those failed efforts appear to be self imposed. They have even screwed up appointments or service calls that I’ve arranged by phone and always manage to make it look accidental or as if it were screwed up by worker incompetence. I’m very sure that even my local post office and rural carriers are involved as there have been many occasions of late, lost and opened mail.
Shadow surveillance [not so shadowy] has been one of the main tactics of harassment. Different perps will either follow me to my destinations or are already there ahead of me and make no effort to stay hidden…[obviously having been alerted by eavesdropping or some neighbor perps because when they are there ahead of me, then they must know that I was going there]. It is also very obvious that the perps have spread lies about me, causing people who were once friendly toward me to suddenly turn against me. They’ve managed to isolate me from family and old friends by causing tension, disagreements, suspicion and doubt between us. They have weaseled their way into the lives of my family and friends [unbeknownst to most of them] in order to orchestrate the wedging.
They have even attempted to destroy my only child’s life and his self esteem by networking their poison through his jobs and his attempted service to country during basic training, then making it all look “self imposed” as well! Another really stressful method of harassment for me has been with private and military planes, as well as with state and military helicopters sporadically buzzing illegally low over my home at all hours of the day or night. I’ve even taken pictures of some of these planes and helicopters and reported the incidents to the FAA and military authorities, but I’ve never received a response and nothing was done about it. I suppose they thought I was just a crazy, paranoid, powerless housewife!
I also have very strong reasons to believe that the perps are electronically harassing me with DEWs [Direct Energy Weapons]…things such as pulse wave weapons directed from planes and cell phone towers, causing severe pain in my head and various other health problems such as lethargy, depression, memory loss, etc. (I came down with cancer in 2007. Possibly from all the stress?) Anyway the electronic harassment is most frequent when I am home alone [probably because there are no witnesses]. I luckily got a chance to record a pulse wave method once and have it filed away for future evidence. The perps have also used objects such as radar guns to transmit short voice messages to me, usually when I am outside in my back yard or in my bed…obviously to make me think I am hearing voices in my head, and to cause me to start doubting my own mental health. NOTE: There is a big difference in the way we hear external voices caused by DEWs as opposed to hearing voices from within our own heads such as from schizophrenia. [Research it!]. I am NOT schizophrenic!
I have kept records of almost everything, and have even done some investigating on my own because going to “the law” is not an option, for obvious reasons. I even contacted the DOJ, but was ignored. Nevertheless, one thing that I have come to realize through all of this is…that we, the people of the United States of America, are not really free. Freedom is just an illusion, and you are only able to keep that illusion if you do not step on the toes of the wrong people, even if you stepped on them inadvertently, because if you do, or even if “they” think you are threat, a whistle blower, a dissident, a nuisance or any problem to “their world” at all, then you WILL most likely become a targeted individual.
Job Chapter 11, Verses 17-20.
Comment by A Violated Lady | April 15, 2008 |
What a great post Violated Lady.
I think it’s interesting how targets have so much in common.
The thing that never fails to surprise me is the ability of humans to believe the worst and to think the worst. It never changes.
The power rumours have is that they are not suppose to get back to you. You would think if people really wanted to know the truth they would ask, but most are happy to feed on the lives of others, cause they have so little of their own.
Pulse wave weapons, I have to read up on my electronic harassment.
People who have nothing of their own often have to feed off of others so they can fell like they have something of worth. They are nothing better then trash, parasitic trash.
I hope your cancer is doing better. The stress or the electronic weapons take your pick. It’s like the Nazis get to experiment anew, or never really stopped.
The world is like this because people make it like this, it works just enough for everyone so that it keeps going. I have learnt to just tune out most things, cause they are just not worth it.
People are not free, they are slaves without the chains or the boundries. It sick to realise that we are nothing better than slaves just like the movie the Matrix.
Well I wish you well, thanks for posting.
Comment by gangstalking | April 15, 2008 |
Hello my family of warrior’s. Well I have never said that before. What can I say? UMMMM, My name is Diana Williams I live in Dallas, TX and my phone #214-909-9587. All the bad guy’s already have that information. I have had my contact information out for those who visit sight’s like MC Forum, Stop Covert War and Organized Crime Wave and are in need of support or just wanting to talk.
As much as I would love to share my own experience and what I learned over the year’s the last person who heard it was murdered. You guy’s might have heard of Claire Louise Wherle. If not look her up as she still has several great article’s on the weapon’s we are all aware of. In memory of Clare I would like to say she showed compassion and strength in her effort to warn other’s of the crime’s and advanced technology used for mind control and survelliance. Claire was what we call underground and stayed on the run for the most part. Alway’s fearing for her life and understandably paranoid. I never had the oportunity to meet Clare. Although we spoke often and she was prepared to write my story she was killed just day’s before we were to meet.
Funny I didn’t plan on talking about Clare and yet so many reason’s I should. I apoligize first being dyslexic with bad expressive skill’s. I am lacking in good communication skill’s.
Someone once told me “keep it simple stupid”.
Clare shared alot of thing’s she wasn’t proud of about herself. I have read thing’s not very nice written about her. There were even some ti’s on the conference call we use to share who would back stab her if they had the opportunity. My POINT…………………………….
Being a victim of mind control comes at different level’s. Some of us are stronger then other’s. I know I could have not survived without God and this experience taught me the meaning of “Foot Print’s in the Sand”. As a matter of fact this experience has taught me more in afew year’s then most people ever learn. Most important I had some area’s in my own life I could improve.
MY POINT……………………………………
To remember a fellow ti who never gave up trying to warn other’s of the danger of non-lethal weapon’s and gave support to other’s. May we all have the courage she showed in the spiritual battle for soul’s.
I know we might be at different places, but I think we are all on the same road going in the same direction. So if you want to see what I coinsider one of the best place’s for us to find helpful information go to Sherry Shriner she has several site’s on the web and is also on utube.
Thank’s for letting me try to say “UNITED WE STAND”
Peace, Love and God Bless you all
Comment by diana williams | April 22, 2008 |
Hello,
I wrote about my story some time ago. Ma wanted some more feedback on SARA. This is not a person, I believe this is an abbreviation for there group. I have met a couple of other people that are targets and say the same thing. In my story I printed address and description of perps, they since moved to a new apartment in the same complex in Palm Springs and are harassing some people I know in there. These people I know still do not believe this is going on. They are so busy doing drugs and behaving unwisely that they rather think it is not happening to them. I am still harassed some days worse than others. I have changed alot since this ordeal. I have been sober for some time now. Believe it or not the power of prayer works. Being closer to God has really helped me through this whole ordeal. It has not stopped. Nor do I believe it will. I am going to get on with my life though no matter what tricks they pull. I have been given strength by God to keep living my life. These people are unfeeling, unthinking and I have lableled them maniacal sociopaths. This has got to be the sickest thing I have ever experienced. I worked in the county jail system and federal prison system, never did I experience insensitive zombies like this. I know they do not get paid much. It is all about the thrill. That makes them sicker than anyone they could ever target. Palm Springs California is inundated with these groups because of the large gay population and the openess of drug use within it. La Ventana apartments has many perps living there amongst the gays, they are targeted, I have experienced it while visiting some of my friends there and they think it is nothing. Gays in the community are involved also. Go to Freenick.net and see a friend of mines story. I met him online in a chat room. He is in Palm Springs, we are being stalked by the same group. I am living at my sisters in Riverside,CA and still experience alot of electronic harassment. What a waste of time. These people are trying to drive people nuts. After one visit to the psych unit, I will not be there again. They sent a perp in to get at me named Yolanda while I was in Moreno Valley Community Hospital, she was repeating things that I only would say out loud at home. The lords prayer was one of main things. Also, telling me I was screwing certain celebrities in the butt. This woman was sick. I believe that they are more mentally messed up than anyone they attack. I have experienced all spectrums of it. I believe a real campaign has to be put together to make people aware of this. If it is making fliers and throwing them everywhere at nite so they are seen so be it. Also I have heard in the AIDS community in Palm Springs that the clients of Desert AIDS Project feel they are targeted by the project itself and the psychiatrist there. Too many familiar things being repeated and experienced by many individuals. The Gays are targeting Gays, Blacks against Blacks, Mexicans against Mexicans, Whites against Whites, Heterosexuals against Heterosexuals all against each other. For a measly amount of money and some false power that God is going to send them to hell for.
Comment by Chuck | May 5, 2008 |
Dear Sir
I would like to bring to your attention the fact the following websites are being used by a ring a gang stalkers to target and collect victims across the world for gang stalking activity.
http://www.arablounge.com
http://www.qiran.com
I am aware from my own personal experience that a predatory man is using these sites to harass women. He uses these sites to create many profiles that he uses to ensnare women in a process he calls ‘fishing/fish baiting’.
This man is stalking women on the internet and eventually hacking in peoples computers to locate them. This is a serious covert crime being used to target and harass people via the internet.
I have become a victim of such an attack, and I am now being stalked on a daily basis by this man who has launched a gang stalking campaign in my local community against me.
My privacy and life have been totally violated and I am being attacked by microwave technology.
Please can you look into this insidious and menacing crime. I am sure that if you check these websites you will discover a distinct pattern of behaviour yourself. Many people are paying money to use these websites only to find that they are actually in contact with the same manys using many different names and profiles.
Please see my blog to see a picture of the man who is stalking me and perpetrating gang stalking hate crimes against me: http://www.myspace.com/roohving
I believe this man is a freemason, he is very wealthy a millionnaire so I am told by people and he also admitted his wealth to me , he has influence of police, doctors, dentists, hospitals, libraries, every CCTV in the UK shops.
Yours fiathfully
Jes K.
Comment by jes | May 7, 2008 |
Mark Saunders a barrister in the UK yesterday opened fire against his neighbours in Chelsea London. He died in the shoot off with police and the police dont know why it happened. how bizaar that he shoudl shoot at his neighbours perhaps he was being gang stalked the news didnt report much on the case.
reading soem of the comments above im interested to learn how communities are targeting each other, like mexicans against mexicans and gays against gays etc, how is this gang warfare coming about witin these communities? also what are the tactics the perps use to get people to participate in the harassment and refuse to reveal whats going, why is there a code of silence even amongst familly and freinds who take part in the harassment?
Comment by jes | May 8, 2008 |
Cnnot pst website, the trackers are inside my retinas as well as computer
ive been gangstaled fr almsot 7 years and its gets worse, i hav no privacy, the worst thng is my own parnts are gangstalking me
HOW CaN THE FREEMASONS BE SO CRUEL>? ive managed to keep my santiy this long but i am glad to find these new online rescources for TI’s like me
I have faith still, these perverts cannt take that from me
gotta go
Comment by NoaZark Pokalipss | May 22, 2008 |
The freaks have been on my family now for 2 years,theyve ruined our old lives but well never give in. We have the Lord and hes stronger than these pussies. Everyone talks about these electronic weapons but weve never noticed any of that,their tactics are getting sort of lame,except the slander which is suprisingly effective, and they are wimps,theyll never hold their ground or eye contact,and only pathetic wussies hurt and scare little kids,which we have. WHY DONT THE TI’S BAND TOGETHER,I DONT GET THAT.
Comment by james | May 30, 2008 |
Hello,
An update, I now am in Hemet,CA again and still am being harassed. Followed constantly. Went to the Dermatologist the other day and was told that the discoloration below both of my cheek bones was Poikiloderma Civatte, this is supposed caused by high exposure to UF light. How weird I thought. These burns have gotten worse and increase daily. I was learned that this is caused by minute laser lights being directed at this area while I sleep. I hear creeks and thumps in my brothers attic. I hear them talking. Weird bird calls when no birds around. Same stalkers from Palm Springs California area. Some Hispanics, Some Gays, Some Whites. Still living in the same La Ventana apartments. Some of my other friends in that area reported similar things happening to them. God is more powerful than they are. That kills them. I trust in God. You see God see’s all and know’s all. He know exactly who is doing this. They are sick and twisted with Satan and actually get off on this. They find it to be fun. So sad, if they put all that energy into a career they could be something great. IN comment to James I am with you, the TI’s should band together and start getting bold as these folks. We can address’ through DMV for 5 buckc on license plates, Why not?? Everyone says that you do not want to be like these folks, well guess what, we need to stop them. Many vehicles such as older blue Chrysler New Yorker with heavy set Hispanic man with Blue bandana, 30’s Hispanic man in White Ford Explorer pickup with pool equipment and the list goes on and I will add license plate numbers. You have to understand that these folks are SICK. I have not seen one thing that anyone has done that deserves this. The pathetic part is how the kids are involved. They use them as pawns and I have had some sick sexual things done to me that they have involved the kids in. They are pedophiles. They exploit children and they do not care. I SAY LETS BAND TOGETHER AND DO SOMETHING TO THESE INVISIBLE IDIOTS.
Comment by Chuck | May 31, 2008 |
Yeah ban together if you must, but you know the idea is for them to provoke us till we do react and then lock us away right?
Do feed the pigeons and don’t give these idiots what they want, although I am tempted to some days. Just pray consistantly that we don’t.
Comment by gangstalking2 | June 1, 2008 |
Im not sure they need us to react to lock us away,the fact that theyve systematically destoyed 2 of my businesses,gotten to lifelong friends, and even turned my family away from me shows me they could doctor whatever they wanted to put me away. I dont think all of them are pedos,or pervs,or even asses. I dont think their that easy to categorize,although they do seem to have similar m.o.’s and tactics,it seems they permeate society,sort of like evil,which one way or another they are linked to. when this first started happening they scared me,just because I couldnt figure it out. I dont know how long it was occurring before I noticed but they made it very obvious to me and my wife and kids when they started the actual harrasment campaign. That they started this at just the right time to destroy us tells me they must have been watching and waiting for a while. Like evil, they got off on our fear and confusion,though they have always been careful to stay at arms lenghth of me for fear of how I might respond to them on a given day. Now that we know(in a sense at least) whats going on and are not fearful of them much of their power nhas been stripped,except for the constant character assasination. My family and I,even my 11 year old some times will screw with them,and it can be hilarious. We love tripping them up and then catching them with that”egg on their facve look” then the “oh crap I blew my cover” look. Some days we openly taunt them and have developed ways to humiliate them in public settings. We can usually,though not always im sure,spot them. Although it probably sounds strange I even seem to be able to smell them,or sense them,and then often they are trying to be obviou7s. We mostly at this point just ignore them though, and that seems to drain their power more than anything. I dont think the freaks like the feeling of irrelevence, I even imagine that feeling irrelevent may be a reason someone would become one of the “freaks”. If nothing else,our lives in the “freakshow” hasnt been boring, and I dont think it ever will be again. Once again,it seems to me this is happening to many others,though weve never met any others. Why dont TI’s get together,if theyve nailed you as bad as they got us, you dont got much left. It seems to me living in close proxemity and with witnesses would neuter some of their attacks,and bring safety to the single people(especially women) out there. It also seems that alot of TI’s are similar personality styles,and many are believers(which adds credence to the idea that the freaks are evil), getting together makes sense on many levels,and has to be possible even with the drawbacks like fake TI’s,anyway,enough rambling,God bless all who are persecuted by the freaks,if nothing else your scoring persecution points with God.
Comment by james | June 2, 2008 |
It’s best not to pay any attention to “provocateurs” professional or otherwise. I know that is sometimes hard to do with the wild, violent, out of control accusations the stalkers make.
These stalking groups are very aggressive toward the victims.
The victims of group attacks I have communicated with, at least those I believe are not “shills”, are some very nice, non-violent people.
Actually some are “non-violent to a fault”, making them vulnerable and easy targets of these attack groups.
In reality, non-violence makes the victim a harder target.
And a victim that communicates what is *really* happening to them to everyone around them becomes a much harder target.
Anyone being assaulted by groups that use “gangstalking” tactics, need to learn quickly that provocation is what it is about.
That, along with outright lies and deception.
That deception is directed toward law enforcement, your neighbors and everyone else in the community.
It is directed toward you most of all.
In my experience, the “bogus investigation” that never ends is the lie.
The reason they all go along is because they either believe the lies, have something to gain or something to lose.
The words on the cover of the “Cause Stalking” book, whether you agree with it’s contents or not, are true.
IDENTIFY
VILLIFY
NULLIFY
DESTROY
This is what they do and I don’t think anyone would dispute this.
Victims should remain calm even when being provoked with electronics or chemicals.
Yes, it is hard to do sometimes considering the depths these assault crews will stoop to.
I have stopped wondering what these people are thinking, because they really are not thinking. or they are just criminals of the Milgram experimental type.
Following instructions or orders does not make them any less a criminal and some of them were already crooks anyway, this just provides another job for them.
You don’t have to “love” these stalkers, as a matter of fact you can “hate” what they do and them for doing it.
You do need to recognize what they are doing, be able to see it coming, avoid, ignore and protect yourself to the best of your ability.
These crimes are being revealed, but I don’t know how long it will take for enough people to “wake up” to what is happening.
Hopefully it won’t be much longer.
Comment by gangstalked | June 3, 2008 |
Is it nonviolence makes them more vulnerable,or it makes them an easier target, you seem to say both. Also,not cowering doesnt make me violent,just stubborn. We usually try to ignore them,but some days I feel like fighting back,or the perp is just to irritating. They might be able to destroy my families life, but Ill be damned the day comes when I cant say “dont tread on me”.
Comment by james | June 4, 2008 |
got cut off, anyway,nothing weve tried and nothing anybody else has tried seems to stop them,except possibly joining them,and Id rather die than be one of them. I doubt many would agree,but I think its better to be tortured and maligned than to become a freak. Some day everyone will answer to God,and Id rather be someone who struggled to turn the other cheek 100% of the time than some sado freak who sells out to evil,and I also believe that here on earth galatians 6:7 will bite them in the ass(or karma for the nonbelievers). If anyone out there has gotten them to back off Im all ears,but until then Ill pray and in the word of tom petty,”wont back down”.
Comment by james | June 4, 2008 |
I meant both about being non-violent.
Being non-violent does not mean backing down, it just means not fighting back with “extreme prejudice”.
I’m sure some victims rightfully have used force against assaults by these groups. I’m sure they were arrested and probably sued afterward if they had any assets. Or maybe they were sent for the infamous “psychiatric evaluation” while the stalkers celebrated.
The stalkers don’t get as much “thrill” if the victim does not react to their attack.
I like this quote I found about how these groups operate.
Quote – “The expressed goal of Gang Stalking is to silence a victim, drive a victim insane and possibly to the point of suicide, or destroy the victim’s reputation and believability as the person will likely be viewed as mentally ill should they complain or report the abuse.
It involves provoking and harassing someone continually until they become exasperated and respond in some manner. Then this response is recorded and documented as an indication of how “unstable”, “crazy”, “dangerous”, etc. the person is. In effect, playing games with cause and effect.
The harassers as a group may have broken dozens of laws and committed dozens of torts in an effort to provoke someone into responding in some “unstable” manner that they can “document” and use as “evidence”, often with the help of unwitting bystanders.” -end quote
I found this to be fairly accurate in describing the actions of “gangstalkers”.
Here is the best example I’ve seen of some of the evil crap gangstalkers will do to a victim.
Comment by gangstalked | June 4, 2008 |
james, did they tell you they would stop if you joined them?
Comment by gangstalked | June 5, 2008 |
join the gang stalkers as an undercover agent and then report back 1!! lol
Comment by jes | June 5, 2008 |
Great jes, one more snitch, that’s all the world needs. You do realise that the person joining would become a permanant zoombie, a snitch for the state forever. That kind of sacrifice is not needed. What we need are the zoombies that are already on the inside to remember their spirits and to stop being slaves to the state in every little way they can.
Comment by gangstalking | June 6, 2008 |
gs, it was more of a joke than a serious suggestion! although im sure many people do play on both sides given the opportunity! who knows, but it seems that people who are doing it will never tell the target whats going on no matter how close they are to them? although some do hint at the game and how they are all colluding together. breaking that chain is important.
Comment by jes | June 6, 2008 |
Hi,
I haven’t stopped by for awhile just wanted to check in today and see how everyone is doing.
I have found the best way to deal with the harassment is to post online the information, emails or whatever other HARD evidence you have.
Then I continue to live my life and fight the good fight. I am not trying to sound glib or wash my hands of it. But as some others have said I will not allow these bastards to ruin my life.
The main perp in my case used fear as his biggest weapon against me. Once I was afraid of one or two things mainly technology related it was easy for the paranoia to become self perpetuating and I started to believe everyone and everything was out to get me.
Good luck to you all!!!!!
Cheers
Comment by Been there | June 12, 2008 |
COMMUNIST (COMMUNITY) ORIENTED POLICING
I just wanted to follow up on my previous post with a link to information on the community oriented policing world phenomenon that is happening in our communities.
NWO is real and people need to wake up!
Everyone should get familiar with this…
99% chance that this is the source of your agonies…
MOST IMPORTANT LINK YOU WILL SEE ON THIS SITE!!
http://www.newswithviews.com/community_policing/community_policing.htm
Comment by Caballero | June 18, 2008 |
Jew worship leads to slavery…
Comment by Caballero | June 18, 2008 |
And guess who provided the websites and web 2.0 that allowed you to post that link or that person to write that article?
Who do you think was the benefactor that brought us free movie and music downloads?
On and on the battle goes. Paranoia is becoming the norm because the pace has quickened. People know something is wrong but since they are unable to explain it they are stuck and confused.
No one can steal your soul. It must be freely given, always remember that!
Comment by Been there | June 18, 2008 |
RE: Comment by Been there | June 18, 2008
Using technology to instill the fear of God into people.. The ultimate new method for imposing total obedience on the population.. blah blah blah..
Teaching people to fear God has been as old as civilization itself. Nothing new here… The government managed to develop fancy technology and is using it to beat up on people so that it can achieve total control ( I wouldn’t call it policing)… I might have bought into that except for the fact that the third way is real and it is the wrong track for humanity!! Community Policing is the new communism, better known under the term communitarianism.. and it is all based on free masonry pushed on the rest of us by the JEWS!.. It’s all been explained; information is out there for anyone to read. Having said that… this has nothing to do whether there is a God or there is no God.. Belief in God is based on faith.. Faith exists with out empirical evidence.. it means there is no tangible proof that God exists.. you find that out whether that is true or not once you pass that threshold.. once your life is over you will know for sure..
If you choose to believe in God, that is your choice… Each and everyone of you can decide for yourselves if you believe in God or not.. But everyone should know that free masons and Jews messing with your lives has nothing to do with God.. it is their decision to do so.. and they have the technology to make you think that supernatural things are happening to you.. What they are doing is criminal.. hence the secrecy.. BUT ALL OF THE ABOVE DOESN’T PROVE THERE IS NO GOD. I’M NOT ARGUING THERE IS NO GOD. I’M ARGUING YOU ARE BEING FUCKED WITH BY THE NEW COMMUNITARIAN MOVEMENT. NEW WORLD ORDER IS HERE.
WOULD GOD MAKE YOU SUFFER IF YOU WERE INNOCENT???
I DOUBT IT.. WOULD GOD FRAME YOU? I DOUBT IT…
WOULD GOD BARE FALSE WITNESS AGAINST YOU? I DOUBT IT..
THERE ARE ABOUT 8 BILLION PEOPLE ON THE PLANET. IF THIS WAS THE CASE THE INTERNET WOULD BE NOTHING BUT FULL OF STORIES ABOUT GANG STALKERS.. SO OUT OF THE 8 BILLION PEOPLE THE FEW WHO COME ON AND COMPLAIN DESERVE TO BE CRUCIFIED? OR LYNCHED? FUCK THAT!!! IT’S THE TYRANNY OF AMBIGUITY! IT’S THE JEWS STUPID!!! IF SATAN EXISTS THAN HE IS JEWISH!!!
http://www.newswithviews.com/community_policing/community_policing.htm
Comment by Caballero | June 18, 2008 |
Dude take a breath…
Comment by Been there | June 18, 2008 |
Hey Caballero, though I do agree that belief in God is a choice, and that this has nothing to do with belief or disbelif, and this is the NWO, and no no one deserves to be lynched or crucified. However your logic that if Satan exists then he is Jewish is flawed logic. It also insinuates a correlation between the two and that is not the case. There is good and bad everywhere.
However the rest of your post was insightful.
Comment by gangstalking | June 19, 2008 |
P.S. If the comment section of this post is used by targets or others to bash specific groups of people then posts will be edited/deleted.
Comment by gangstalking | June 19, 2008 |
You are entitled to your opinion. I sincerely subscribe to all the opinions I have posted thus far at this blog.
Comment by Caballero | June 19, 2008 |
Caballero,newswithviews seemed like a good site,and many of the authors seemed to come from a Judeo-Christian point of view,which nis definitely not anti-semetic. Not to be self-delusional,and if I subscribed to others thinking easily I would probably never been targeted,but to live in this world , especially being a target ,and live without the belief in my savior would suck. Not that life as a target doesnt often suck,but at least I can have hope that some day all these pains will be alleviated,and that the perps will most likely suffer far worse than they gave me. Interestingly enough,after comments I made a few weeks ago the freaks really stepped up their nastiness. It doesnt bother me too much when they step up their assaults on me but theyve gone after my wife and kids a lot heavier. Just like I said before, a bunch of wussies. Maybee I should tone down my attitude towards them? Fat chance! God Bless all the persecuted,and I still say there has to be a way and good reason for the Targeted to unite.
Comment by james | June 19, 2008 |
Paranoid Fantasies About Sept 11 Distract From the Real Issues
Astute observers of history are aware that for every notable event there will usually be at least one, often several wild conspiracy theories which spring up around it. “The CIA killed Hendrix” “The Pope had John Lennon murdered”, “Hitler was half Werewolf”, “Space aliens replaced Nixon with a clone”, etc, etc. The bigger the event, the more ridiculous and more numerous are the fanciful rantings which circulate in relation to it.
So its hardly surprising that the events of Sept 11 2001 have spawned their fair share of these ludicrous fairy tales. And as always, there is — sadly — a small but gullible percentage of the population eager to lap up these tall tales, regardless of facts or rational analysis. One of the wilder stories circulating about Sept 11, and one that has attracted something of a cult following amongst conspiracy buffs is that it was carried out by 19 fanatical Arab hijackers, masterminded by an evil genius named Osama bin Laden, with no apparent motivation other than that they “hate our freedoms.”
Never a group of people to be bothered by facts, the perpetrators of this cartoon fantasy have constructed an elaborately woven web of delusions and unsubstantiated hearsay in order to promote this garbage across the internet and the media to the extent that a number of otherwise rational people have actually fallen under its spell.
Normally I don’t even bother debunking this kind of junk, but the effect that this paranoid myth is beginning to have requires a little rational analysis, in order to consign it to the same rubbish bin as all such silly conspiracy theories. These crackpots even contend that the extremist Bush regime was caught unawares by the attacks, had no hand in organizing them, and actually would have stopped them if it had been able.
Blindly ignoring the stand down of the US air-force, the insider trading on airline stocks — linked to the CIA, the complicit behavior of Bush on the morning of the attacks, the controlled demolition of the WTC, the firing of a missile into the Pentagon and a host of other documented proofs that the Bush regime was behind the attacks, the conspiracy theorists stick doggedly to a silly story about 19 Arab hijackers somehow managing to commandeer 4 planes simultaneously and fly them around US airspace for nearly 2 hours, crashing them into important buildings, without the US intelligence services having any idea that it was coming, and without the Air Force knowing what to do. The huge difficulties with such a stupid story force them to invent even more preposterous stories to distract from its core silliness, and thus the tale has escalated into a mythic fantasy of truly gargantuan proportions.
It’s difficult to apply rational analysis to such unmitigated stupidity, but that is the task which I take on in this article. However, it should be noted that one of the curious characteristics of conspiracy theorists is that they effortlessly change their so called evidence in response to each aspect which is debunked. As soon as one delusion is unmasked, they simply invent another to replace it, and deny that the first ever existed. Eventually, when they have turned full circle through this endlessly changing fantasy fog , they then re- invent the original delusion and deny that you ever debunked it, thus beginning the circle once more.
This technique is known as “the fruit loop” and saves the conspiracy theorist from ever having to see any of their ideas through to their (ill)logical conclusions. According to the practitioners of the fruit loop, 19 Arabs took over the 4 planes by subduing the passengers and crew through the use of guns,knives,box cutters and gas, and then used electronic guidance systems which they had smuggled on board to fly the planes to their targets.
The suspension of disbelief required for this outrageous concoction is only for the hard core conspiracy theorist. For a start, they conveniently skip over the awkward fact that there weren’t any Arabs on the planes. If there were, one must speculate that they somehow got on board without being filmed by any of the security cameras and without being registered on the passenger lists. But the curly question of how they are supposed to have got on board is all too mundane for the exciting world of the conspiracy theorist. With vague mumblings that they must have been using false ID ( but never specifying which IDs they are alleged to have used, or how these were traced to their real identities), they quickly bypass this problem, to relate exciting and sinister tales about how some of the fictitious fiends were actually searched before boarding because they looked suspicious.
However, as inevitably happens with any web of lies, this simply paints them into an even more difficult corner. How are they supposed to have got on board with all that stuff if they were searched? And if they used gas in a confined space, they would have been affected themselves unless they also had masks in their luggage. “Excuse me sir, why do you have a boxcutter, a gun, a container of gas, a gas mask and an electronic guidance unit in your luggage?” “A present for your grandmother? Very well sir, on you get.” “Very strange”, thinks the security officer. “That’s the fourth Arabic man without an Arabic name who just got on board with a knife, gun or boxcutter and gas mask. And why does that security camera keep flicking off every time one these characters shows up? Must be one of those days I guess…”
Asking any of these basic questions to a conspiracy theorist is likely to cause a sudden leap to the claim that we know that they were on board because they left a credit card trail for the tickets they had purchased and cars they had rented. So if they used credit cards that identified them, how does that reconcile with the claim that they used false IDs to get on to the plane? But by this time, the fruit loop is in full swing, as the conspiracy theorist tries to stay one jump ahead of this annoying and awkward rational analysis.They will allege that the hijackers’ passports were found at the crash scenes. “So there!” they exalt triumphantly, their fanatical faces lighting up with that deranged look of one who has just a revelation of questionable sanity. Hmm? So they got on board with false IDs but took their real passports with them?
However, by this time the fruit loop has been completely circumnavigated,and the conspiracy theorist exclaims impatiently, “Who said anything about false IDs? We know what seats they were sitting in! Their presence is well documented!” And so the whole loop starts again. “Well, why aren’t they on the passenger lists?” “You numbskull! They assumed the identities of other passengers!” And so on…
Finally, out of sheer fascination with this circular method of creative delusion, the rational sceptic will allow them to get away with this loop, in order to move on to the next question, and see what further delights await us in the unraveling of this marvelously stupid story. “Uh, how come their passports survived fiery crashes that completely incinerated the planes and all the passengers? ”
The answer of course is that its just one of those strange co- incidences, those little quirks of fate that do happen from time to time. You know, like the same person winning the lottery four weeks in a row. The odds are astronomical, but these things do happen…
This is another favourite deductive method of the conspiracy theorist. The “improbability drive”, in which they decide upon a conclusion without any evidence whatsoever to support it, and then continually speculate a series of wildly improbable events and unbelievable co- incidences to support it, shrugging off the implausibility of each event with the vague assertion that sometimes the impossible happens (just about all the time in their world).
There is a principle called “Occam’s razor” which suggests that in the absence of evidence to the contrary, the simplest explanation is most likely to be correct. Conspiracy theorists hate Occam’s razor. Having for the sake of amusement, allowed them to get away with with the silly story of the 19 invisible Arabs, we move on to the question of how they are supposed to have taken over the planes. Hijacking a plane is not an easy thing to do. Hijacking it without the pilot being able to alert ground control is near impossible. The pilot has only to punch in a four digit code to alert ground control to a hijacking.
Unconcerned with the awkward question of plausibility, the conspiracy buffs maintain that on that Sept 11, the invisible hijackers took over the plane by the rather crude method of threatening people with boxcutters and knives, and spraying gas (after they had attached their masks, obviously), but somehow took control of the plane without the crew first getting a chance to punch in the hijacking code. Not just on one plane, but on all four.
At this point in the tale, the conspiracy theorist is again forced to call upon the services of the improbability drive. So now that our incredibly lucky hijackers have taken control of the planes, all four pilots fly them with breath taking skill and certainty to their fiery end, all four pilots unflinching in their steely resolve for a swift meeting with Allah. Apart from their psychotic hatred of “our freedoms”, it was their fanatical devotion to Islam which enabled them to summon up the iron will to do this. Which is strange, because according to another piece of hearsay peddled by the conspiracy buffs, these guys actually went out drinking and womanizing the night before their great martyrdom, even leaving their Korans in the bar -really impeccable Islamic behavior — and then got up at 5am the next morning to pull off the greatest covert operation in history.
This also requires us to believe that they were even clear headed enough to learn how to fly the huge planes by reading flight manuals in Arabic in the car on the way to the airport. We know this because they supposedly left the flight manuals there for us to find. It gets better. Their practical training had allegedly been limited to Cessnas and flight simulators, but this was no barrier to the unflinching certainty with which they took over the planes and skillfully guided them to their doom. If they are supposed to have done their flight training with these tools, which would be available just about anywhere in the world, its not clear why they would have decided to risk blowing their cover to US intelligence services by doing the training in Florida, rather than somewhere in the Middle East, but such reasoning is foreign to the foggy world of the conspiracy theorist, too trapped in the constant rotation of the mental fruit loop to make their unsubstantiated fabrications seem even semi- believable.
Having triumphantly established a circular delusion in support of the mythical Arabs, the conspiracy theorist now confronts the difficult question of why there’s nothing left of the planes.
Anybody who has seen the endlessly replayed footage of the second plane going into the WTC will realize that the plane was packed with explosives. Planes do not and cannot blow up into nothing in that manner when they crash. Did the mythical Arabs also haul a huge heap of explosives on board, and mange to deploy them in such a manner that they went off in the exact instant of the crash, completely vapourizing the plane?
This is a little difficult even for the conspiracy theorist, who at this point decides that its easier to invent new laws of physics in order to keep the delusion rolling along. There weren’t any explosives. It wasn’t an inside job. The plane blew up into nothing from its exploding fuel load! Remarkable! Sluggishly combustible jet fuel which is basically kerosine,and which burns at a maximum temperature of around 800 C has suddenly taken on the qualities of a ferociously explosive demolition agent, vapourizing 65 tons of aircraft into a puff of smoke. Never mind that a plane of that size contains around 15 tons of steel and titanium, of which even the melting points are about double that of the maximum combustion temperature of kerosine — let alone the boiling point — which is what would be required to vapourize a plane. And then there’s about 50 tons of aluminium to be accounted for. In excess of 15lbs of metal for each gallon of kerosine.
For the conspiracy theorist, such inconvenient facts are vaguely dismissed as “mumbo jumbo”. This convenient little phrase is their answer to just about anything factual or logical. Like a conjurer pulling a rabbit out of a hat, they suddenly become fanatically insistent about the devastating explosive qualities of kerosine, something hitherto completely unknown to science, but just discovered by them, this very minute.
Blissfully ignoring the fact that never before or since in aviation history has a plane vapourized into nothing from an exploding fuel load, the conspiracy theorist relies upon Hollywood images, where the effects are are always larger than life, and certainly larger than the intellects of these cretins. “Its a well known fact that planes blow up into nothing on impact.” they state with pompous certainty. “Watch any Bruce Willis movie.” “Care to provide any documented examples? If it’s a well known fact, then presumably this well known fact springs from some kind of documentation — other than Bruce Willis movies?”
At this point the mad but cunning eyes of the conspiracy theorist will narrow as they sense the corner that they have backed themselves into, and plan their escape by means of another stunning backflip. “Ah, but planes have never crashed into buildings before, so there’s no way of telling.” they counter with a sly grin.
Well, actually planes have crashed into buildings before and since, and not vapourized into nothing. “But not big planes, with that much fuel “, they shriek in hysterical denial. Or that much metal to vapourize. “Yes but not hijacked planes!”
“Are you suggesting that whether the crash is deliberate or accidental affects the combustion qualities of the fuel?” “Now you’re just being silly”. Although collisions with buildings are rare, planes frequently crash into mountains, streets, other aircraft, nosedive into the ground,or have bombs planted aboard them, and don’t vapourize into nothing. What’s so special about a tower that’s mostly glass?
But by now, the conspiracy theorist has once again sailed happily around the fruit loop. “Its a well documented fact that planes explode into nothing on impact.” Effortlessly weaving back and forth between the position that its a “well known fact” and that “its never happened before, so we have nothing to compare it to”, the conspiracy theorist has now convinced themselves ( if not too many other people) that the WTC plane was not loaded with explosives, and that the instant vapourization of the plane in a massive fireball was the same as any other plane crash you might care to mention. Round and round the fruit. loop…
But the hurdles which confront the conspiracy theorist are many, and they are now forced to implement even more creative uses for the newly discovered shockingly destructive qualities of kerosine. They have to explain how the Arabs also engineered the elegant veritcal collapse of both the WTC towers, and for this awkward fact the easiest counter is to simply deny that it was a controlled demolition, and claim that the buildings collapsed from fire caused by the burning kerosine. For this, its necessary to sweep aside the second law of thermodynamics and propose kerosine which is not only impossibly destructive, but also recycles itself for a second burning in violation of the law of degradation of energy.
You see, it not only consumed itself in a sudden catastrophic fireball, vapourizing a 65 ton plane into nothing, but then came back for a second go, burning at 2000C for another hour at the impact point, melting the skyscraper’s steel like butter. And while it was doing all this it also poured down the elevator shafts, starting fires all through the building.
When I was at school there was a little thing called the entropy law which suggests that a given portion of fuel can only burn once, something which is readily observable in the real world, even for those who didn’t make it to junior high school science. But this is no problem for the conspiracy theorist. Gleefully, they claim that a few thousand gallons of kerosine is enough to: completely vapourize a 65 ton aircraft: have enough left over to burn ferociously enough for over an hour at the impact point to melt steel ( melting point about double the maximum combustion temperature of the fuel ): still have enough left over to pour down the elevator shafts and start similarly destructive fires all through the building.
This kerosine really is remarkable stuff! How chilling to realize that those kerosine heaters we had in the house when I was a kid were deadly bombs, just waiting to go off. One false move and the entire street might have been vapourized. And never again will I take kerosine lamps out camping. One moment you’re there innocently holding the lamp — the next — kapow! Vapourized into nothing along with with the rest of the camp site, and still leaving enough of the deadly stuff to start a massive forest fire.
These whackos are actually claiming that the raging inferno allegedly created by the miraculously recycling, and impossibly hot burning kerosine melted or at least softened the steel supports of the skyscraper. Oblivious to the fact that the smoke coming from the WTC was black, which indicates an oxygen starved fire -therefore, not particularly hot, they trumpet an alleged temperature in the building of 2000 C, without a shred of evidence to support this curious suspension of the laws of physics. Not content with this ludicrous garbage, they then contend that as the steel frames softened, they came straight down instead of buckling and twisting and falling sideways.
Since they’re already re-engineered the combustion qualities of jet fuel, violated the second law of thermodynamics, and re-defined the structural properties of steel, why let a little thing like the laws of gravity get in the way?
The tower fell in a time almost identical to that of a free falling object, dropped from that height, meaning that its physically impossible for it to have collapsed by the method of the top floors smashing through the lower floors. But according to the conspiracy theorists, the laws of gravity were temporarily suspended on the morning of Sept 11.
It appears that the evil psychic power of those dreadful Arabs knew no bounds. Even after they were dead, they were able, by the power of their evil spirits, to force down the tower at a speed physically impossible under the laws of gravity, had it been meeting any resistance from fireproofed steel structures originally designed to resist many tons of hurricane force wind as well as the impact of a Boeing passenger jet straying off course.
Clearly, these conspiracy nuts never did their science homework at school, but did become extremely adept at inventing tall tales for why. “Muslim terrorists stole my notes, sir” “No miss, the kerosine heater blew up and vapourized everything in the street, except for my passport.” “You see sir, the schoolbus was hijacked by Arabs who destroyed my homework because they hate our freedoms.”
Or perhaps they misunderstood the term “creative science” and mistakenly thought that coming up with such rubbish was in fact, their science homework. The ferocious heat generated by this ghastly kerosine was, according to the conspiracy theorists, the reason why so many of the WTC victims can’t be identified. DNA is destroyed by heat. (Although 2000 C isn’t really required, 100C will generally do the job.)
This is quite remarkable, because according to the conspiracy theorist, the nature of DNA suddenly changes if you go to a different city. That’s right! If you are killed by an Arab terrorist in NY, your DNA will be destroyed by such temperatures. But if you are killed by an Arab terrorist in Washington DC, your DNA will be so robust that it can survive temperatures which completely vapourize a 65 ton aircraft.
You see, these loonies have somehow concocted the idea that the missile which hit the pentagon was not a missile at all, but one of the hijacked planes. And to prove this unlikely premise, they point to a propaganda statement from the Bush regime, which rather stupidly claims that all but one of the people aboard the plane were identified from the site by DNA testing, even though nothing remains of the plane. The plane was vapourized by the fuel tank explosion maintain these space loonies, but the people inside it were all but one identified by DNA testing.
So there we have it. The qualities of DNA are different, depending upon which city you’re in, or perhaps depending upon which fairy story you’re trying to sell at any particular time. This concoction about one of the hijacked planes hitting the Pentagon really is a howler. For those not familiar with the layout of the Pentagon, it consists of 5 rings of building, each with a space inbetween. Each ring of building is about 30 to 35 ft deep, with a similar amount of open space between it and the next ring. The object which penetrated the Pentagon went in at about a 45 degree angle, punching a neat circular hole of about a 12 ft diameter through three rings ( six walls).A little later a section of wall about 65 ft wide collapsed in the outer ring. Since the plane which the conspiracy theorists claim to be responsible for the impact had a wing span of 125 ft and a length of 155 ft, and there was no wreckage of the plane, either inside or outside the building, and the lawns outside were still smooth and green enough to play golf on, this crazy delusion is clearly physically impossible.
But hey, we’ve already disregarded the combustion qualities of jet fuel, the normal properties of common building materials, the properties of DNA, the laws of gravity and the second law of thermodynamics, so what the hell — why not throw in a little spatial impossibility as well? I would have thought that the observation that a solid object cannot pass through another solid object without leaving a hole at least as big as itself is reasonably sound science. But to the conspiracy theorist, this is “mumbo jumbo”. It conflicts with the delusion that they’re hooked on, so it “must be wrong” although trying to get them to explain exactly how it could be wrong is a futile endeavour.
Conspiracy theorists fly into a curious panic whenever the Pentagon missile is mentioned.They nervously maintain that the plane was vapourized by it’s exploding fuel load and point to the WTC crash as evidence of this behavior. (That’s a wonderful fruit loop.)
Like an insect which has just been sprayed, running back and forth in its last mad death throes, they first argue that the reason the hole is so small is that the plane never entered the wall, having blown up outside, and then suddenly backflip to explain the 250 ft deep missile hole by saying that the plane disappeared all the way into the building, and then blew up inside the building (even though the building shows no sign of such damage). As for what happened to the wings — here’s where they get really creative. The wings snapped off and folded into the fuselage which then carried them into the building, which then closed up behind the plane like a piece of meat.
When it suits them, they’ll also claim that the plane slid in on its belly, (ignoring the undamaged lawn) while at the same time citing alleged witnesses to the plane diving steeply into the building from an “irrecoverable angle.”
How they reconcile these two scenarios as being compatible is truly a study in stupidity. Once they get desperate enough, you can be sure that the UFO conspiracy stuff will make an appearance.
The Arabs are in league with the Martians. Space aliens snatched the remains of the Pentagon plane and fixed most of the hole in the wall, just to confuse people. They gave the Arabs invisibility pills to help get them onto the planes. Little green men were seen talking to Bin Laden a few weeks prior to the attacks.
As the nation gears up to impeach the traitor Bush, and stop his perpetual oil war, it’s not helpful to have these idiots distracting from the process by spreading silly conspiracy theories about mythical Arabs, stories which do nothing but play into the hands of the extremist Bush regime.
At a less serious time, we might tolerate such crackpots with amused detachment, but they need to understand that the treachery that was perpetrated on Sept 11, and the subsequent war crimes committed in “retaliation” are far too serious for us to allow such frivolous self indulgence to go unchallenged.
Those who are truly addicted to conspiracy delusions should find a more appropriate outlet for their paranoia. Its time to stop loony conspiracy theories about Sept 11.
Comment by Caballero | June 19, 2008 |
Niki Raapana – Communitarianism
Comment by Caballero | June 19, 2008 |
It was true then… It is true today (Ron Paul)
Comment by Caballero | June 19, 2008 |
This is the sorts of situation collective group mentality creates.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/080619/world/international_india_hindu_dc
Comment by Been there | June 19, 2008 |
I have stalket about 9 years now what they cops&punks have done is sicking they have put me in jail for nothing more than lies i am still fighting a case in woodland I cant get a job all of my car&bikes have been destroyed these f k punks have to be stoped its all most to late for Me but for others it may not be we need some real help I know some of who is dooing some of but not all to all of them I would to see them die
Comment by chester | June 19, 2008 |
Chester so sorry for all of your experiences. I hope your wrong and that it is not too late for you.
But there is a very good point in what you have said. If you look back in history you will find great people who did not share their beliefs with others when it became far too dangerous to do so.
I am not advocating becoming a coward. But carefully weighing the battles and those you choose to fight.
I will look for examples and share the links here.
I really can only make one suggestion at this point. It may be time to consider becoming a person with “two ” faces if you know what I mean.
Comment by Been there | June 19, 2008 |
Ok here are a few:
http://www.siue.edu/~aho/musov/fay/fayrev2.html
http://www.holocaust-trc.org/faces.htm
But if you just visit some search engine of your choice, and punch in famous individualists or non conformists there are literally thousands of hits.
Take courage from the past as we move toward the future.
Comment by Been there | June 19, 2008 |
Same been there from the post on Feb 9th?
Comment by james | June 19, 2008 |
Chester,if your legit,do you mean Woodland Wash? I had several news carriers quit their jobs after trying to work that area,they were so hot to knock out my biz they turned that town into a real freakshow after 200 in the morning every night,or maybee Im being a little self-absorbed, maybee that town is always a freakshow.
Comment by james | June 19, 2008 |
Im sure many great people went into hiding during troubled times. However, Martin Luther King, Rosa Parks, even Martin Luther,ect didnt. Heck, we could all go into hiding and just conform,save ourselves. Only one thing,I havent seen any examples of the freaks going away once yourn targeted, if Im wrong, please correct me. Id love to think theyll go away. Im not calling you a coward,and I realize making myself a bigger target might not be all that brilliant,but I just cant see where trying to hide from this evil that seems to be sweeping away thgood in our world is the solution. Theyll take me out whether I duck my head or stare them in the eye,for myself, Id rather go down unafraid if I gotta go down.
Comment by james | June 19, 2008 |
Hi James,
Yep same one.
Comment by Been there | June 19, 2008 |
Hi James,
I can only speak from my experience and how I am handling the situation.
I do not fully understand nor pretend to have all the answers. I just noticed there are many people posting to this site that are living in terror and it breaks my heart. so I wanted to share what has helped me to some extent.
I agree with you also, dependent on the situation sometimes it is good to fight. Rosa Parks, Martin Luther I believe knew when the time was right to do it. And they were very successful and to be praised for their efforts and the sacrifices they made!
Yes once your a target its pretty much permanent. In the morning and during the day my neighbors across the road intentionally sit on their driveways and stare into the house. When I go outside I give them a big wave and carry on with my business. There is a great website called SCRATCH here in Ontario, Canada that explains adult bullying syndrome.
The online monitoring and manipulation I explained on Feb 9 is actually from a different source. In this case and knowing I am watched even while writing this, all I can say is I use pen and paper and visit a friends home or library to post the information to the internet under an assumed alias.
Understand that for me going into hiding does not mean I am conforming. I watch I wait and pick and choose those battles that make sense sort of the ah ha moments. It helps me to think stay focused and protect my family at the same time.
Comment by Been there | June 20, 2008 |
Think what you may.. But our enemies are haters of the Constitution and Bill of Rights!!! These are not some rouge groups that went astray.. Ask yourselves who hates Freedom Of Speech? Who always wants to control the speech? Who wants to get rid of your right to bare arms? You don’t have to be a Genius to figure this out.. Universally speaking this group of people are the Jewish-Masonic CABAL that is behind these nature of attacks.. yeah the pretend “Christians” are doing the dirty work.. but these groups would not exist if they weren’t sanctioned by the authorities.. what ethnic group of people pull the strings? It’s the Jews Stupid!!!
Comment by Caballero | June 21, 2008 |
I’m surprised about this continual use of the word stupid, which is demeaning and degrading to those individuals who choose to use this site, and the hatred toward an entire race of people based on….
Democratic internet?
Comment by Been there | June 21, 2008 |
How can we be sure that these types of blogs, or these types of sites, are not set up by the same people who do the victimizing and torturing.. maybe the purpose of this blog is to get feed back to the perpetrators of these crimes? Maybe they are interested in getting the victims perspective.. to get a first hand account of their work.. these people are fucking sick.. Maybe this is some type of an experiment.. It’s evident that these types of “non-lethal” manipulating weaponry is coming out of the universities and are being implemented by the JEW CABAL that has a grip over this country.
Hatred toward entire race of people is justified if the entire race of people is evil.. Every victim is morally justified hating his enemy.
Comment by caballero | June 22, 2008 |
Hi Caballero,
It’s nice that you have some strong opinions and that you are willing to share. The thing is we are not getting Gang Stalking solved with hatred of one group of people, it just makes targets look like racists.
The other thing is, I really don’t want to turn this great blog discussion that we are having into a racist discussion. You provided some really good links, for that I thank you, but this blog is not going to be used for furthering racist agendas. It’s not what the blog is for.
I agree that many powerful people are behind this, but the powerful elite are the powerful elite and they are multifacited.
What I would suggest is if you have some links, or what to start a helpful discussion, then do so, but for the most part I am going to ask to keep racist opinons without proper proof where they belong, you will just bring down the credibility of the blog. I don’t know if that was the intention, because we get snitches that pull this stuff all the time.
If you are a legit target, I feel your pain, I sorry for what you are going through, but think about what you are saying, and can you back it up? Don’t get me wrong, I do understand that secret societies etc are playing a huge role in this, Mark does a great job of documenting stuff like this on his website, and that kind of hard evidence is totally appriciated, vs comments that can be viewed as hateful without being backed up.
If you are a snitch out to ruin credibility, I have had enough of snitches like that to last a life time.
Comment by gangstalking | June 26, 2008 |
I posted a question to this site several weeks ago:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=275370&page=20#pid4478121
It is suggest this is an open and honest site to ask questions of freemasonry.
The question I had was with regard to memories my mother had about her time spent in the lodge as a child.
They were taught hate chants according to her and I have no reason to doubt what she says. Her mind is sharp and she does not suffer from dementia.
Once I posted the comment I received a note stating my comments would be reviewed by staff, nothing more.
I waited and waited, guess what the open and honest forum had clammed up and my post was not added to the list of questions.
You might want to have a look at the site as it gives you a fair idea how people are enticed into this way of life and believe it might be fun.
Comment by Been there | June 26, 2008 |
For those of us who do not wish to sit back and get mind fucked everyday, what we can do is to start networking by reaching out to other targets in our areas of residence.. I know this is a long shot, but the major idea of gang stalking is to isolate you.. those of you who wish to fight back, should not allow them to accomplish that.. I realize that this is easier said than done, considering the libel campaigns, electromagnetic weaponry, etc., that are directed at us.. but it is an idea.. kind of self defense for targets.. targets should look for other targets in the area and form groups.. nobody understand what you are going through but another target.. something to consider..
Comment by Caballero | June 27, 2008 |
Hey everyone,hows it going? Just got my internet back in time to see cabal is still angry. Just ridin ya dude. Hows it going been there? The freaks have been on me hard the last two weeks,im beginning to think they dont like me a whole lot, and were thinking that maybee were getting lased,or whatever that isn when they shoot stuff at you, but were not for sure, if you dont have burn marks are you not gettin hit? Anyway, they can still kiss my butt. GOD bless the targeted.
Comment by james | June 28, 2008 |
Again remember that networking only works if you are networking with other targets. After 2 years online, I know that most people are not really targets, at this stage I am deeply hopeful that Mark M. Rich is, but who know. He stays to himself and does his own thing. I know that from experience, staying by myself for the most part was the most useful thing to do, simply because it stopped a lot of the bs info that was ongoing.
Comment by gangstalking | June 29, 2008 |
If you don’t want your mind controlled by others why not learn to control it yourself? (Just a thought)
James – things are going well thanks. Glad to see your alive well, and still posting.
gangstalking – Is there some sort of specific evidence one needs to collect to establish themselves as a target? Is there a list or additional links that might clarify this activity against individuals? Do all of the tactics have to be used on a person in order for them to be called a “TI”?
Comment by Been there | June 30, 2008 |
Hi Been there,
There is no criteria that I am aware of for being a Targeted Individual. I know of snitches that are being targeted, I still don’t get it, but I know of some that are being targeted this way, and they are also snitches.
I know that real targets can do as much good for this cause as bad. I know that a lot of the people that are starting these sites and spreading garbage are doing it on purpose. I don’t know if a recent poster to this site was a target or a perp/snitch, but I know that since I have started to moderate comments again, 2 individuals have decided to not post here. One who was spreading really what I consider to be racist comments, without backing up what was said, and the other, was spreading the old, oh these gang stalkers are criminals, which is partially myth. There actions are criminal to be sure, but these people are sactioned by the government.
In the last two months, I have seen a real push to point the blame on someone other than the government for some reason and I want to address that in my next post.
Anyways you are all welcome to post here, but I will not allow free baseing of comments anymore. If you post stuff that not useful, hateful, and or just trying to put real targets off from what is happening, yes your comments might not make it to the blog.
If you want to have racist unsubstanciated opinions, there are lot’s of places that will let you do it. Again don’t get me wrong, I am sure that stuff that been properly researched like Mark’s site is cool. I also think that books like the brotherhood are ok as well.
I don’t like blaming one group of people, because this is systemic. Don’t get me wrong the rich, and elite do control society. The government are aware and are puppets, but hate is not going to fix this. Also doing what the Germans did in WW11 will not fix this. Our problems are deeper than this.
Comment by gangstalking | July 1, 2008 |
I’m gonna celebrate independence day in a different country ha ha Fuck you!
Comment by Caballero | July 2, 2008 |
Hi gangstalking,
Very well said, thank you, and I agree 100% with most of what your saying. The issues that exist in society today are very complex.
Your right, war, hatred, violence and racism will not solve this problem. Years and years of societal teachings by institutions and media propaganda are primarily to blame for the bullying, cohersion, and abuses perpetrated against the people living in this society.
Our social structure contains within its seeding a victim mentality. Unless it can be changed on a very deep level many will fail to see the brokenness of this system.
I also would not participate in activities which could lead to another Hitler type scenario. It was tried it failed and it is not the answer.
In a nutshell hate breeds hate.
Comment by Been there | July 2, 2008 |
Solution
I have an idea… why don’t we all (ALL TIs), write our representatives EVERYDAY and demand justice.. Perhaps we need to bring this matter into their attention… Considering that the Congressmen are not the executive branch of this government, but a legislative branch, there is very strong possibility that they may not even be aware of these stalking groups, which are carrying out extra judicial vigilante corrupted law enforcement sanctioned so called justice. Am I crazy or does the United States Constitution guarantee every American citizen DUE PROCESS in a court of law??? Am I wrong on this point? Since when stalking groups encouraged by the law enforcement have a right to lynch anyone from the community over a 10 year period? To break into their homes? To damage property? To spread libel? And not file one charge against the accused?? The police facilitators are hiding behind the community.. they know these acts are illegal.. The list of crimes committed against TIs can go on and on and on… Most of us have gone through this and know..
Here is something we can actually do together to help ourselves.. Let the hypocrisy of these so called freedoms that we supposed to have be known.. the more of us speak out against these crimes and injustices, the more people will realize that this is unacceptable in a country of the rule of law that USA supposed to be..
Ask your representatives, if he or she is aware that there are stalking groups organized by the community for the purpose of extracting extrajudicial justice. These groups spread false accusation and engage in character assassination.. These groups hang out in the community, particularly in places such as bars and clubs, but they may also be in professions such as Doctors and Dentists..
These groups use the cell phone technology to stalk and victimize people.. It is my opinion, that it is impossible that the law enforcement is unaware of these activities.. These acts include dosing people with drugs, directing electromagnetic weaponry cause both physical and emotional harm.. That these groups are sanctioned by the law enforcement authorities. Ask your CONGRESSMEN and/or CONGRESSWOMEN how do they intend to protect your Constitutional right of DUE PROCESS???!!!
Comment by Caballero | July 3, 2008 |
https://forms.house.gov/wyr/welcome.shtml
Comment by Caballero | July 3, 2008 |
Here is what we need to do…
Everyone write your congressmen and/or Congresswomen, including your senators and tell them about gang stalking in your community and about the crimes that were committed against you. Gang stalking groups are for the most part community policing groups that come from crime watch groups. These groups are organized by someone in the community and there is a facilitator between the leader of the group and law enforcement. The activities of these groups are illegal and unconstitutional as they accuse targeted individuals of crimes but do not allow them the opportunity to defend themselves in the court of law — effectively denying your right to DUE PROCESS OF THE LAW.
Law enforcement is well aware of these groups. In fact, law enforcement agencies do more than just tolerate these groups; they support and help organize their efforts. Basically, gang Stalking is organized for the purpose of extracting extra judicial vigilante justice on a targeted individual without due process. Targeted individuals are then lynched by the community in which they have no means of defending themselves. These groups organize for the purpose of committing crimes. Stalking groups are ORGANIZED CRIME in bed with law enforcement. You do not have to be a criminal in order to be a victim of community policing. In most cases (99%) you are not.
The gang stalkers are a group of people that act as Judge, Jury, and Executioner. These crimes include spreading libel, dosing targeted individuals with drugs, distributing prescription drugs to individuals without a prescription, distributing illegal drugs, the use of electromagnetic weaponry, breaking and entering into targeted individuals home, theft, 24/7 harassment, intimidation, sleep deprivation, physical and mental injury, destruction of private property, interfering in the person pursuit of happiness, interference in the persons ability to make a living… I’m sure I didn’t list all the things that they do (we all have our stories).. These acts are designed to do both mental and physical harm and are carried out for an extended period of time. In my case, it has been over 10 years.
The places most frequented by these group stalkers include dance universities and colleges, clubs, bars, and restaurants. But, a group stalker may also be your doctor, dentist, or anyone else in the community such as the person that lives right next door to you and may be colluding with these groups in committing crimes against you.
WRITE YOUR REPRESENTATIVE AND DEMAND JUSTICE.
Demand that your constitutional rights be enforced. Police know that these groups exist yet fail to act to close them down. WHY? Tell your Congressmen/congresswomen about organized crime groups in your communities.
Ask your representative if he/she is aware of these stalking groups and the crimes they commit. Ask what is being done to enforce your constitutional rights.
Until recently, I thought this was directed only against me. It is now apparent that these stalking groups have been targeting a very very large number of people. All targeted individuals should unite in our efforts to shut these groups down and bring them to justice. DUE PROCESS IS YOUR RIGHT not a privilege. EXTRA JUDICIAL VIGILANTE JUSTICE IS ILLEGAL. Police know who these people are and the crimes they commit.
https://forms.house.gov/wyr/welcome.shtml
Comment by Caballero | July 3, 2008 |
Hate does breed hatered.
Comment by gangstalking | July 4, 2008 |
Hi Caballero,
http://www.thehiddenevil.com/article03.asp
Updated March 17, 2008
Your Politicians Know
One approach to stop this global epidemic, or at least have it stopped on an individual basis, is to contact congress & hope they believe you when you tell them you’re being Gang Stalked & tortured.(*1) The apparent logic of this method seems to be that if enough people contact them, & are able to convince enough of them that the weapons exist & are being misused on civilians, then they’ll finally investigate. However, both a spokesperson for the military & a member of congress have stated that high-power microwave devices which, “tranquilize, impede, immobilize, harass, shock, upset, chill, temporarily blind, [&] deafen,” will be used on the civilian population.
So, we know that they know the weapons exist, & that they’re being used on civilians. We also know they’ve received many complaints of this. If the system was what it appeared to be, then asking congress to address this issue would work. But it’s not. Also, there’s an old saying, you can’t wake someone up who pretends to be asleep. Congress & the rest of our pubic servants already know. And from what I’ve learned, the system is nothing like what it seems.
It appears that this approach is based on the widespread myth that congress, for the most part, is in control of the country & that they truly represent the people. And, that although they make lots of mistakes, for the most part, they really do care. The idea that congress or the people are in control of this country is an absolute fantasy. If congress were to conduct an investigation while the Federal Reserve still existed, it would definitely be a whitewash. Just like all of their other whitewashes.
Back when a few of these public servants still did conduct authentic investigations, they told us that the financial elite not only infiltrated them, but that they were beyond prosecution.(*2) Also, after the Federal Reserve System came into being, they told us that the United States Government had literally been overthrown by international bankers, & that a puppet government was installed. These are public records which seem to have conveniently fallen out of mainstream textbooks.
In a Congressional Record dated December 22, 1913, vol. 51, Congressman Charles Lindberg declared that the Federal Reserve, “establishes the most gigantic trust on earth… When the President signs this act the invisible government … will be legalized.” He warned, “I have seen these forces exerted during the different stages of this bill” & “The money power overawes the legislative and executive forces of the Nation and of the States.” On June 10, 1932 Congressman McFadden, echoed “When the Federal Reserve Act was passed, the people of these United States did not perceive that a … super-state controlled by international bankers … acting together to enslave the world for their own pleasure,” was created.” He added, “[The] truth is-the Fed has usurped the government.”(*3)
The uncomfortable fact is that most of our congressmen are mere puppets for multinational corporations. The same could be said for the state representatives of other NATO nations. Many of them have repeatedly passed anti-freedom legislation to help further this corporate-fascist political agenda, which includes the absolute control of every individual. Right now they are laying the legal groundwork for a global dictatorship (they always make it official by passing laws), & they’re just about done. If congress abolished the Federal Reserve, & the central banks of other NATO countries were closed, then, maybe, they could begin to be trusted to conduct an honest investigation. But that won’t happen with the current political design.
To the right we see Congressman Allen Boyd being celebrated at the Swift Creek Middle School in Tallahassee, Florida on January 11, 2008. The ceremony was sponsored by a global youth crime watch program, which boasts hundreds of thousands of recruits, who conduct “youth patrols.” Are we to believe that congress is naive enough not to attribute the thousands (at least) of complaints which they have received of people being Gang Stalked by children, to these youth brigades? This seems unlikely. Furthermore, it so happens that Congressman Boyd was one of the 404 representatives who voted in favor of HR 1955, which targets domestic dissent & shuts down free speech on the internet. All done under the guise of fighting terrorism. Clearly, Congressman Boyd, & all but a few others in congress, are actively assisting the financial elite in their creation of a “legal” dictatorship.
The financial elite want everybody of any significant political influence under their thumb. They have teams of individuals who focus on them until enough incriminating evidence is gained. Then they become, “one of the gang,” which means they’re a heavily corrupted minion of the New World Order. The few who won’t be compromised receive physical or character assassination. This is how they operate.(*4) In reality this is a deviant system that is run, literally, by psychopaths & satanists. It has only the appearance of legitimacy, which is typical of a society under psychopathic rule.
During a relationship where one party wants to bring about change, if a successful resolution is to be reached, then both parties need to be honest. If one is not, & has a hidden agenda which includes an effort to deceive or placate the other party, then a resolution can’t be reached. This type of deception is compounded when both parties share the same hidden agenda & know it, but put on a charade for a group they’re supposedly helping, in order to deliberately mislead them.(*5) This is not to say that congress shouldn’t be contacted. Personally, if I were to contact them again, it wouldn’t be to try to convince them of something they are fully aware of, & are helping to cover-up. Instead, my letter would be something like this:
I know you know exactly what’s going on. And I know you’ll probably lie about it. I know you don’t really serve the people. And I know you’re not really in control of the government. I know you’ve probably gotten at least thousands of complaints of people being tortured & Gang Stalked. And I know you’re helping to cover it up. But allow me to let you know something. At some point in time you will be known for your actions. The truth will come out-all of it. Your active participation in the cover-up of this holocaust will be known. You won’t be known as a great man or woman, but someone who sold humanity out for a paycheck & a pension.
You can send most of your politicians the same letter, because it applies.
Comment by gangstalking | July 5, 2008 |
See Frances About-Picard law..
Comment by B | July 9, 2008 |
It seems to me that someone thought it would be a good idea to create disorder. Yeah, it’s that simple. I know who too, but I’m not going to say since crazy people #3-33 seem to think that super crazies #1&2 are necessary.
Comment by B | July 9, 2008 |
Dontcha just love the freaks? Its like they cant get enough of me,maybee I should feel honored,I mean, at least im not ignored. They have been all over me lately,and I feel a little siftedby666. My stepfather died of a sudden heartattack a couple of days ago in my moms arms. Him and my mother are the only ones still helping us, and they were going to testify in the latest case my ex has brought against me to take my daughter back(if she didnt start thius she surely knows of it,cause shes said if we want our lives to “get better again” well give her my daughter back.) Anyway,that night both me and my wife were sitting at home and got feeling very odd,with our pulses racing and gettin sort of dizzy. I mean, if I was paranoid and stuff Id think something was up, and it always happens when she refuses to return my daughter from a visit. Oh well,they can still kiss my ass, God will protect me and they will get theirs,either here or in hell. Howdy “been there”, hows it going up north? Once again, God bless the persecuted.
Comment by james | July 10, 2008 |
Has anyone else caught the new”age of mind” vids on youtube? Id especially like to know your reaction,gangstalking.
Comment by james | July 20, 2008 |
I just read your blog re your analysis of the Lawson books, and I want to commend you. This is the first time I’ve seen someone see through what some of these people are doing. I’ve been a little suspicious of Lawson, particularly because of the other people I suspect of being agents who promote him the most. Please contact me. I’ve put together a group for families and friends of victims/survivors of these crimes to help us understand what’s going on and join together to do something. Brilliant work. I’ll keep reading.
Comment by Lou | August 25, 2008 |
Hi Lou,
I thank you for the feedback, but after a time any logicl person has to realise that 7 year old children are not vigilantees, or school children, or highschool kids, and then start to ask the questions about what is really happening.
The understand of what is going on is all there on sites like Mark M. Rich http://www.TheHIddenEvil.com, http://www.GangStalkingWorld.com, and http://www.TargetedIndividuals.com
If you need more info, please do let me know. Also please do keep me updated on how things are going.
Comment by gangstalking | August 26, 2008 |
Hello,
I have been group stalked and painfully physically tortured and mind controlled for months on end. The torture is so obvious and severe that those around me can see that I’m being tortured. Does the government expect normal citizens to condone the torture of other normal citzens? I cannot believe the stupidity of these criminals. Surely, if you are fronting an international pedophile ring (aka the freemasons) you do not draw attention to that by targeting normal people. These purpetrators should not be in control of anyones mind or body.
Comment by Lauren | October 24, 2008 |
Hi!
I’d like to thank you for your website, I have visited way too often. I’m 34 years old, single woman. I live in Hungary,I have been under surveillance, for many-many years now, visual and audio 24/7 my whole life is out there, it’s broadcasted and mixed with lies and their delusions to anybody who is “interested”. How cruel is that!
Comment by Amber | November 3, 2008 |
Hi, I understand the gravity of this issue.
I think we should unit and fight these bastards the way they deserve to be fought.
No legal action can be taken against them and they know it.
I propose we should create an organization that attacks them from the roots. I am proposing some drastic measures. Probably not a realistic one for the common people,
But for those whose lives have been partly destroyed by these so called gang stalkers, it has become a necessity. We need volunteers (and plenty of them) willing to fight back
We shall be merciless, we will not be passive, we will remain unknown to the public and we will destroy them.
Enough, enough, enough…
Stop being a victim, wipe off your tears, stop hiding and don’t complain about it anymore.
IT is time to take action, to move on and meet our enemies face to face. Let’s dig them out of their rabbit holes, let show them that we are the one who will prevail, not them.
Join me, join us NOW.
my email: angangers_x@yahoo.com
Does anyone know a guy called OSSGI OTA. he is a japanese from peru.
He used to live in tokyo close to the Myoden train station.( year 2002)
He is a gang stalker or probably the head. He may work for the yakuza.
he’s girl friend is peruvian.
If you know anything about this person let me know
thanks
Comment by billy | November 11, 2008 |
Hi Billy,
Normally I would just delete this post, but on the odd change that you are actually a target and not just some snitch trying to give targets bad advise, I will go over the reasons why targets should not take your suggestions.
Now we do have to fight back that’s clear, sit back do nothing, get nothing, but to take up violent or unplanned means will only set our cause back, and get many people thrown in jail, or into mental hospitals. Remember this is the reason these people try to provoke us in public to begin with. Remember that.
They want us to lash out violently. Now for some of us this might work, but for the majority of us, this is not the way to go. People like Martin Luther King Jr, did not come to the conclusion of peopleful protest out of thin air, over time, you begin to see that it’s more the way to go, because other methods will only bring us failure.
We all feel anger, and violent at times, but we have to find ways to meet our challenges, without setting ourselves up, which is what they want us to do.
Comment by gangstalking | November 12, 2008 |
Gangstalkers are Zionist version of Hitler-Jugend (Hitler’s Youth) – http://askafreemason.com/ . It’s not just the youth though.. They do hang around night clubs under supervision of an elder leader or two.. If you leave the country the cop(s) will contact cops of the country you flee to and tell the authorities of that country that you are under suspicion of a crime or what not… weather it is true or not, they will believe the cops that slander you. Masons are all over Europe and they will pick up where the group of your country of origin left off. There might be a country that’s not taking part but I don’t know of any.. Maybe Cuba?
I must add, it’s not just the cops though.. I suspect it started out as some social engineering experiment at the universities… community watch groups thing.. you get targeted for destruction without due process.. everyone who takes part against you already convicted you.. or they probably don’t care if your guilty or not.. it’s the new mix of old freemasonry gibberish and the feminist movement applied to social control of society..
The real reason why you are being targeted could be completely independent of anything you are being told… It could be an experiment to test their brain reading device technology on you. Beware of the guilt trip they put you on.. Often times they will set up a situation that will make you think that you did something wrong.. If you think long and hard about it, you may find that you been set up for this from the beginning.. Brain reading can be done remotely. They can also put thoughts into peoples minds that turn into words.. sometimes it seems that someone is talking through them to you.. So if anyone thinks they are being fucked with by aliens – it’s not true. This technology actually exists. That’s all I got to say for now.. Try to stay sane..
If you feel the need to kick the shit out of somebody who’s stalking you – do it! The social engineers are counting on that you won’t.. it supposed to be a “peaceful method” to disable you.. I say do it.. But you should know that if you do, your ass is going to get thrown in jail and you will probably get your ass kicked instead.. you probably don’t want that to happen to you.. This fight is all mind ju-jitsu Yoda (star wars dude) mind shit..
Comment by Caballero | November 12, 2008 |
I still think if you kick the crap out of somebody, they will just win and put you away as a violent nutter and then b it will give them creadence. Look little snitches this person was really violent and they really did need to be followed around, good job snitches, here is a cookie for you.
I am sure this is part of some kind of wider social engeniering thing, but I can’t quite handle the creepy, multidementional aspect of it right now.
You keep saying freemasons, but the research shows it’s fully systemic. So by just saying Mason it will probably make people think that it’s just one sector of society, when it’s multfasceted.
Comment by gangstalking | November 13, 2008 |
Everyone is afraid of the J-word. But that’s your enemy. The rest are just dupes and patsies. They got a grip on this country, and through this country they want to rule the world. they got a new toy and want to see how far they can take it. There are rumors that there is going to be a big confrontation in the east.
Comment by Caballero | November 15, 2008 |
Js control Freemasons..
Comment by Caballero | November 15, 2008 |
Hello blogger,
Are you the eldest son/daughter ?
Comment by Bob | November 16, 2008 |
If an actor got up in front of an audience and professed to be the most talented of all actors. Would that make it so? If a scientist made a statement that he was the smartest person alive. Would that make it so? So I ask the following: If some politician made a statement that Americans are free. Would that make it so? What exactly is freedom? Hmm
Real truths are self evident. They are obvious to any objective observer. You do not need to state an obvious truth. The reason why Bush or any other president that preceded him often state that Americans are free.. The reason for this is that they don’t want anyone getting an idea that perhaps not.
American politicians often claim that America is the greatest champion of human rights. Perhaps not. US Gov has been sighted as the biggest offender of Human Rights here and abroad. Organized gang stalking is a Human Rights crime. It is systemic and it is prevalent. It was cooked up by military industrial complex and used by social engineers for their leftist agenda – the BIG BROTHER society. 1984 is real and it is here. Gang stalking is part of that system. Today’s technology is frighteningly supportive of this machine.
Comment by Caballero | November 18, 2008 |
BLOOD PASSOVER
http://www.jrbooksonline.com/cwporter/toaffintro.htm
Comment by Caballero | November 19, 2008 |
I just checked out the link. Look it’s obvious that you really believe a specific group is behind all these problems. You are entitled to your belief, but there might be more suitable formats available for forwarding the beliefs.
Again review http://www.TheHiddenEvil.com it’s really well documented and detailed, if Mark says something he can usually show the documentation behind it. Just a thought.
Comment by gangstalking | November 21, 2008 |
Hi Gangstalking,
I think the blood passover link was a reference to my question about whether or not you are the eldest son/daughter.
I’m a TI and I’m the eldest.
http://parenting.eharmony.com/2007/08/hs-first-born/
Google “first born advantage”
or
“Birth order”
From wikipedia
Since the 1970s, one of the most influential theories to explain why firstborns frequently score higher on intelligence and achievement tests than other children is the confluence model of Robert Zajonc. This model states that because firstborns mainly have adult influences around them in their early years, they will spend their initial years of life interacting in a highly intellectual family environment. This effect may also be observed in siblings who, although later born, have a sibling at least five years senior with no siblings in between. These children are considered to be “functional firstborns”. The theory further suggests that firstborns will be more intelligent than only children, because the latter will not benefit from the “tutor effect” (i.e. teaching younger siblings).
So I’m just wondering if this is a silent holocaust of the first born, or if that’s just yet another incorrect theory.
Please let us know if you are the eldest son/daughter..
Comment by Bob | November 21, 2008 |
When this first started 2 years ago, I was in so much fear. I literally feared for my life every moment of the day. When I found out it was gangstalking I felt so relieved that there it was – I know what’s happening around me now. Time to tell everyone! Big mistake, obviously. Lost many relationships. Now trying to forge new ones. And I do make friends, but they are quickly tainted and begin playing the game.
I worked for a company where my boss was the brother of a football player ($$$). wouldn’t have an affair with him. I left the job and now this is my life. I am amazed that I manage to enjoy it at all. But I am very lonely. I am sad to think that no one will ever be close to me again.
Comment by floridagirl | November 22, 2008 |
Thanks for clearifying that Bob. I just don’t want this thread to become something that makes that Gang Stalking community seem like we are something that we are not. Pray continue your conversation with whomever, but I would ask everyone posting, please be mindful of how it makes the community look. Also say what you need to say, but back it up with facts.
Comment by gangstalking | November 22, 2008 |
[quote]When this first started 2 years ago, I was in so much fear. I literally feared for my life every moment of the day. When I found out it was gangstalking I felt so relieved that there it was – I know what’s happening around me now. Time to tell everyone! Big mistake, obviously. Lost many relationships. Now trying to forge new ones. And I do make friends, but they are quickly tainted and begin playing the game.
I worked for a company where my boss was the brother of a football player ($$$). wouldn’t have an affair with him. I left the job and now this is my life. I am amazed that I manage to enjoy it at all. But I am very lonely. I am sad to think that no one will ever be close to me again.
Comment by floridagirl
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Hi floridagirl,
I am sorry to hear that you are having a hard time of this, all targets are.
Until we bring our targeting to the forefront like mobbing did for theirs, this will continue to be our lives, that’s why so many of us are working in a dedicated manner to ensure that this does not happen.
You are not alone, imagine if you were still going through this and had no idea of what was happening to you or why? Wouldn’t it be worst? I know it was for me. At least now you have power, are where so many targets are not, they are alone, they have no idea why this is happening, and many of them are getting to a desperate stage.
With knowledge, you can do activism, learn to discuss surveillance topics openly and credibly, you can post a blog if you wish. So many of us are alone, but together online, because of this, and we do find support.
You are here, you are posting, you are not alone, not fully. I want you to know this. We can over come this. I am not saying or even pretending it will be easy, but we can get to where we need to be. The New York Times this week, mentioned Gang Stalking, not the way we needed it mentioned, but the term is out there, people understand it has something to do with the belief that we thing we are being stalked by whomever. We just need to change a few small things around, but we are closer to where we need to be. I know it might not seem that way, but are getting there.
Comment by gangstalking | November 22, 2008 |
Hi Gangstalking/blogger
I notice you’re going to great lengths to not answer my question about being the eldest son/daughter.
Is there any reason for that?
Comment by Bob | November 22, 2008 |
I am an eldest daughter—of an US Army officer involved in Intelligence work, et al. A child of the 60’s—I believe I have been influenced by these evil people since [before] birth. A doctor told my mother in 195* that she couldn’t have me normally, due to —–and should get rid of ‘me.’ Obviously, she ‘dis-obeyed’ and went to another doctor. They targeted young children, per Nazi orders from scientists used in the MK-Ultra program. Too many ‘bad’ things happened to me, growing up, to not know now–that it was ALL related. These are a group of satanists, of whatever ‘cover’ religion–in many different instances they have revealed themselves As Such–when cornering me and threatening me—from as young as a 10 year old child. At that point they were teenagers just a little bit older than me—but they were a Gang. They have always undermined, and ruined whatever relationship They could–including close family members. My younger brother is so brainwashed he calls me mental—and that I have Satanic thoughts. Nothing could be further from the Truth. They infiltrate and lie at every church I have ever gone to, which is why I don’t go to an established church. Christians swallow Their bilge– hook, line and sinker. Why do They go to the trouble to do this for a person’s whole life? Why are They everywhere? They are a Worldwide, highly-evolved and coordinated Satanic organization. With the expansion of settlers and pioneers–these idiots followed along—even on the Mayflower—with their Secret Agenda. Now, it’s not-so-Secret. What do I think it is? Worldwide Domination–and Suppression of Christianity—even USING some Christians to achieve Their Means! Diabolical, yes!
Comment by lifevorce | August 26, 2009 |
Thanks for your words of encouragement. I really do make the best of my life. All this time I have operated under the thought that if I just ignore it, everything will be fine. But I see that’s not the best way to go. I don’t have a lot of knowledge to share like some of the other bloggers, just my experiences only. It is good to see that there are others surviving through all this like I am. Thanks again. I will continue to educate myself online.
Comment by floridagirl | November 24, 2008 |
Protecting yourself against eharassment
In no way do I mean to reduce the experiences of electronic harassment/torture. I am being subjected to it, figured out how it works in my case and reduced its effects. Although I do not know for sure what initiated my electro sensitivity I discovered that the electrics of my house has been interfered with and the wiring for the telephone lines and power had been looped together. This causes harmonics and electric fields and living under these conditions was very unhealthy and caused unusual symptoms.
More interestingly both ultrasonic and microwave devices were employed on me especially when asleep. I rigged my laptop, running a spectrographic analyser, to an electric and a magnetic field meters and de-modulated the signals. I compared the signals to a number of devices that include a household microwave, cell phones of different providers without much success. Being in the construction business, I then borrowed and sampled a microwave water leak detector. The signal at about 1250m mHz, was identical to what I was picking up from the shared wall to my neighbours house.
I noted a number of things, if I moved from room to room, the neighbour followed me. With my increasing electro sensitivity, I would feel this signal initiated after the neighbour entered the adjacent room. The water leak detector demolutes its own signal and is heard by the operator through head phones. Also the human body is mainly water, so when the neighbour enters his adjoining room to mine, I presume he sweeps the room I am in until it pings. He then settles on me and maintains the exposure. His main focus was my abdomen but traversed to other parts of my body and back. A number of symptoms developed that included in me being unable to absorb vitamin B12, electro sensitivity and other associated mineral defeceincies despite my good eating habits. No one in my very extensive family has had any occurance of B12 problems even in old age nor have I been seriously ill in the past being a fairly robust individual. Over time and without vitamin B12 shots and protection from this kind of assault, a victim will develop induced dementia and psychosis.
My solutions; I painted the inside of my house with shielding paint. This paint is very expensive so I made my own. The ingredient of this sheilding paint is as follows -
Graphite powder minimum 80% pure 250 grams – you get this from art shops and I recommend ‘Cretacolor’ the purer the better.
Acrylic paint binder, 1 to 1.5 litres – you will have to work this out depending on the wall surface and humidity
Water 3.5 to 4 litres
Preservative – sorbitol to act as fungicide
Mix together in portions like a cake mix.
Test the mix for adherence on a small patch and paint over with normal paint to see how it works.
Seal plaster walls or wall paper with wall sealer and paint with the above conductive paint leaving an inch around electric sockets and switches. Paint walls and ceiling and earth the conductive paint. Don’t forget the skirting boards.
The paint is black so coat your surfaces with the orignal coloured paint to finish it off to the decor. The total cost should be about £30 or $50.
It is possible that the culprits will try to change frequencies to counter the paint so you may have to put another layer on with a handful of carbon black in the mix. The good thing is that the shielding is discrete.
If you have carpets, lift it up and line the floor with a minimum of 4 layers kitchen aluminium foil and recarpet and earth the foil. Double this up under you bed and where you normally sit.
Windows, you have to spend money on electro conductive cloth and netting which must be earthed. A cheaper option is to line the curtain lining with mylar. Google maylar, it’s cheap and it needs to be earthed.
To protect yourself from acoustic weapons appears to be by lining a mirror at the direction you think it is coming from. I discovered this by accident when I noticed a new neighbour keeping his top window permanently open in the middle of winter. When I postioned a full length mirror in the direction of his window, he slammed his window shut. This happened a few times until the acoustic noise ceased. You can buy components for building your own acoustic weapon on ebay and it should be banned; link http://tinyurl.com/5wgv43 I reduced the ebay link through Tinyurl.com
I must say that I haven’t done tests on acoustic weapons because it is illegal in the UK and the mirror trick seems to work.
I hope this info helps and I have no intention of demeaning anyone’s views.
I will soon comment on some of my tactics in tackling organised stalking.
Comment by AM | November 26, 2008 |
I am sitting here with my mouth wide open and tears streaming down my face. It’s not in disbelief but in RELIEF that I now know what’s been going on for at least the last 8 months of my life. I’ve been followed everywhere I go and I could fill pages and pages of what I have seen and experienced and can relate to almost everyone elses experiences. I thought for awhile that my now ex partner was behind this as he once told me I was a “danger to myself and others” after I pretty much caught him in a blatent lie, of which he said I was delusional, only so he could get away with what he was doing. For the first few months that I started noticing I was being watched I kept it to myself and it almost drove me to insanity – the wonder of who they are and most of all WHY… that was the big one. I have seen people pull into a gas station where I was and pretend to pump gas, I have seen the hand gestures in cars, people pointing at me on the street and in cars, cars flashing their lights as I was trying to get out of my home unnoticed at 3 AM – and none of these things happened just once, it’s been consistent. I have been homeless, lost two jobs, have no friends left and am pretty much alone 90 percent of the time and it’s NOT that I am running around like a psychotic telling everyone, it all just pretty much drifted away – friends, job, family, everything.
I have tried my best to just keep plugging along and tell myself that the nearly every time I go outside my home, no matter what time of the day, SOMEONE is outside and will either be looking my way or will walk/jog by. If I take too long getting out of my car when I arrive home, someone magically appears on the corner and will turn their head quickly in the opposite direction when I finally give in and look directly at them.
Again, I could fill pages and pages and wish I could, just because I know for the first time, that I am not alone.
Be safe out there.
Comment by RAH | November 26, 2008 |
Hi Rah,
These are some suggestions that I made to another target. They may be of some assistance to you.
I first want to say that if you are a target of Gang Stalking, I really am sorry for you. Before you can be sure however, you would want to observe for a period of time, months or even longer to be absolutly sure. How long have you suspected you were a target? What triggers or events are happening in your life for you to feel this way.
http://www.gangstalkingworld.com/Techniques.html
Please review the above list, and remember it’s just for guideline purposes only.
When you say you have been seeing government cars when you make trips on the road can you specifiy? Most of us don’t see government cars, it’s the frequency, the pattern, and the formations that first clue us in. Then many of us will go to various places, places where we maybe would normally be alone and not followed, to further test the theory. Maybe driving out of state?
Can you clearify the police messing with you? It’s not very specific. Also please do not reveal anything you are not comfortable with. It is a public forum after all.
How can you be sure they are following you? How have you tested the theory?
Do you live by yourself, is this happening only when you are by yourself, are there other signs or symptoms that go along with what is happening to you? http://www.catchcanada.org/#WhatisTechnologicalHarassment
Most of us do not know why we are being targeted, but we do find some of the personality types match the reasons people are targeted for mobbing, or bullying. Please read this. http://targetedindividuals.com/Forum/forumdisplay.php?fid=8
A lot of us are clean, sane, ordinary people and we go through a lot of shock when this first happens. Here are some symptoms you may experience, they are normal emotions.
http://www.targetedindividuals.com/Effects.html
http://www.targetedindividuals.com/Symptoms.html
Could the two years of unemployement be related to the fact that you have been a target for some time? I was a target for several long years before I figured it out.
I still think they are after the wrong person, but what is the right person to be after? What they are doing is going after ordinary people. That is what is not being understood. Please also visit, Mark. M. Rich http://www.TheHiddenEvil.com
If after you read and review these sites, if you still feel that you are a target, you are welcome to get in touch with me over at the http://www.GangStalkingWorld.com website, please reference this conversation.
If you are a target, you can get through this, and you are not alone. Here is a list of things that you can start to do, to regain some of your power if this is happening to you.
http://www.gangstalkingworld.com/Measures.html
http://www.gangstalkingworld.com/Coping.html
Comment by gangstalking | November 26, 2008 |
RAH, after being severely mobbed at work and “community stalked” for 15 years. I lost my job. I have been unemployed for 2.75 years. I found these web sites and it also brought tears to my eyes. I knew I was not the only one and it confirmed that I was not crazy, in spite of 15 years almost everyone I knew attempting to gaslight me.
Comment by Animadverto | November 27, 2008 |
Just found your site. Been gang stalked for eight years now. First in New York by a mafia organzation. Then in Savannah I was gaslighted by a college (Professors told me I was being consp[ired against) Set me up as schizophrenic, unbelievable mind control…abused horribly…then I was followed back to New York! I’ve been quite a project! They have systematically ruined my relationships and used some mind control method to morph my breasts and body to make me sexually less attractive…they also gave me MS. Thanks for this board, maybe they’ll go away! They sent me to three mental institutions. Ruined my career.
Comment by Jeff | December 14, 2008 |
Hi Everybody!
I have question, how long can you live, stay healthy with the various type of electronic harassment?
Thank you
Comment by Amber | December 20, 2008 |
Hi Amber,
I really think it depends on the individual. Sheilding will lower your getting sick. I think there is no one answer. Each person is different. I have heard some say 5-10 years, but then I don’t know. Just shield as best as you can. I am sure some live much longer than this being attacked this way. It’s the individual make up of the person.
Comment by gangstalking | December 22, 2008 |
And I guess food/drink poisoning or medicating and with gangstalking are greatly reduced.
Comment by Amber | December 25, 2008 |
Please read my story on above website.
These people who do this are the most evil, vile, brutal people and living outside of all laws.
WE must band together to get rid of this.
I think your congressman and senators should be contacted immediately and they should be referred to this website.
Unless we all would all like to be living in electronic slavery and be ruled by former repressive dictators like Hitler, Stalin, Edi Amin, the butchers of Rwanda and the like this brutal, illegal torture has to be exposed and its operatives STOPPED.
Encloral
Comment by Tortured | December 26, 2008 |
Did they care when this was happening during Cointelpro part one? So then I am not sure they will care any better now. Don’t get me wrong there is almost always that one that stands out and that’s the reason why things get exposed, but it’s finding that one, if there is one left.
Comment by gangstalking | January 25, 2009 |
Hello all, I was gang stalked 5 years ago for about 8 months for punishment after blowing the whistle on a large corporation for unethical practices. I was a victim by what has been labeled “street theater”. At the time I had no idea what it was called, it wasn’t until I was blogging on a politico blog on a totally unrelated subject a month ago did I find our community. Someone had posted information on “gang stalking” in the comment section of a blog entry. I know some of you are happey you’re not alone, but I am not happy to find out this has been happening on a grand scale, right under our nose. Because I for one thought I had built a compelling case against my harassers, only to find that so many others have too but to no avail. Now it feel like I’m up against a insurmountable enemy, and fighting against all odds. But I’ll keep fighting. When I finally fount the phrase “gang stalking” I then looked up the tactics and was amazed how they lined up identically to what I experienced 5 years ago. From the moving into surrounding apartment units, to convoys of cars following me, and rumors being spread, it was all there. The only way to defeat this in my thinking is to have the general public well aware this is happening, then and only then will we possibly get this phenomenon resolved. I would like to see a Michael Moore style documentary on “gang stalking”. Where we covertly monitor an active TI being harassed, on one end and infiltrate the perps on the other. Then the powers that be would be nailed.
Comment by TI_here | January 3, 2009 |
I’m rejoicing in your torment. we are not stalkers we are law enforcement and you are being watched because your a danger to society.
Comment by gangstalker | January 14, 2009 |
I approved this comment, because assuming you are not just soon person off of the Internet who does not know my personal situation, or even if you are, pray tell what danger am I to society?
My outspokeness? My ability to think outside the box? My telling the truth about what is happening in society? My desire for a peaceful world? My inability to stand for injustice and torture of innocent people? In what way am I a danger to society? My persistant law abiding nature? My ability to see what this has in store for all of humanity?
If you can’t answer this question, then I am going to assume that you have appropriately no idea what you are talking about.
If you are law enforcement as you claim, then you should understand that these types of actions in democratic countries are a danger to all that society holds dare, and should be resisted at all cost. Stalking and monitoring of innocent people can only create a society of fear and mistrust, and eventually that society will cave in upon itself. So feel free to respond to this post, whoever you are.
Comment by gangstalking | January 14, 2009 |
Also my sheilding is holding up, so the torment is much less, but it just goes to show, the type of person who would approve of such actions, is the greatest danger and threat to any democratic society and that person should be what we all worry about, because that type of person is a danger to what we as democratic people hold dare and love.
Comment by gangstalking | January 14, 2009 |
don’t s l i p up
Comment by gangstalker | January 15, 2009 |
That’s what I thought, you have nothiing. Don’t you slip up.
Comment by gangstalking | January 17, 2009 |
January 22, 2009 the Keith Oberman show on MSN featured an interview with Russel Tice former NSA employee. Mr. Tice stated that every day citizens were being spied on 24/7 that had no connections with terrorists or any illegal activities. That their personal information such as phone and financial records were being fed into NASA databases.
Comment by Jenn | January 23, 2009 |
There’s not too much I can add here that hasn’t already been said accept that I too am a target that resides in Maine. This all started this summer, (late July). I’m 22 years old, I am currently in college. These people are making it almost impossible for me to be able to graduate w/a degree, and try to live a stable life. There’s really nothing I can do but survive the punishment they give me 24/7 w/the electronic weapons. I know that they can see what I can see, and I am not sure whether I have a biochip or not. I know that they monitor everything from my heartbeat to my thoughts. fun..
Comment by Justin | January 23, 2009 |
It’s this interesting reality that we all live in. If you don’t let them defeat your mind then you have a chance.
Comment by gangstalking | January 25, 2009 |
I have been a target for gang stalking, mind control and torture for several years now. These purputrators have not been content to slander my name and destroy my life from the outside – they have tried to destroy my mind and body from within. I am a normal person trying to live a productive and ethical life. They have attempted to ruin my name via organised stalking. Much of this has been published online and there are therefore thousands of witnesses. I am being painfully physically controlled. It appears that these government workers have discovered which sections of the brain govern areas of the mind and body. The technology that the government have access to is obviously much more advanced than the everyday citizen is aware of. These workers make it impossible for me to concentrate or learn. They give me massive quantities of meth, destroy and age my physical body, and make my body appear different to what it is (they take inches of height). At various times they have given me massive quantities of drugs – ice, angel dust and LSD. They make me look like I have parkinsons disease, restless leg syndrome and a movement disorder. They make me look like a prostitute while I am going about my life. They try and give me brain damage. They control my body and make me appear excessively sexual in public places and at work. There have been incidents to do with my work and studies that legally, should never have occurred. They also use sleep deprivation and psychological torture. I believe that the government are doing this so that people will be easily controlled and too scared to speak up or rebel.
Illegal does not begin to cover what these people have done. If the police do not at least investigate these matters, then they are condoning the behaviour of these criminals and perverts. Rather than branding thousands of taxpayers mentally ill, surely these claims need to be investigated. There is bound to be physical evidence and equipment everywhere. The time has come to take action. To my fellow survivors I say this: Find strength within yourself, maintain your integrity and never stoop to their level.
Comment by Innocent citizen. | February 2, 2009 |
I have been gang stalked for close to 3 years. It first started with a group of employees harassing me at the New York Health and Hospital Corporation. When I got tired of the harassment I took vacation and ultimately took on employment with AT&T. Not knowing I signed a contract with the devil, this group (HHC) somehow convinced them that I was some sort of menace to society. Through HHC’s deceit and lies, they were able to get AT&T to contribute to a level of stalking greater than anything that can be imagined (like 1000 fold). I also believe that Ilan paid Scott (AT&T lead engineer) to re-enforce AT&T’s decision to go against me. I was ultimately removed from that position and that point on my life has been a living hell.
AT&T is using their technology and connections with government to destroy my livelihood and ultimately get me incarcerated. Their ties wit law enforcement and with Citizen Watch groups is unmeasured. AT&T is using their wireless cell phone technology to orchestrate a form of monitoring and control to assist the public in a number of criminal acts. This technology includes broadcasting my picture and sending videos to a secure blog site with a profile of me attached. This approach allows for them to capture the minds and hearts of those involved to commit in these offenses. It is this network and infrastructure that makes it possible for the perps to commits these acts of deception. Acts such as: harassment, false impressions, setups and framing on falsified crimes they see fit to try to get me arrested on.
I also believe that this effort is being funded by Ilan’s connections with the Freemasons as well as AT&T to pay people off that commit these criminal offenses. Offenses such as false impression photos, false accusations, and street theater in an attempt to re-enforce their claims. If you are a true Christian and believe in the word of God, you would not commit in these acts of deception. The 8th commandment specifically states “Thou shalt not bear false witness to thy neighbor”. God is watching and will punish those who breaks God’s laws.
In America where we claim “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness” and yet law enforcement allows these perps to infringe upon the very core that makes this country great. In the past before all of this I used to think that people that ranted conspiracy theories about gov’t on the subways in NYC were really actually crazy. But now I think differently and realize maybe they were not crazy at all. That maybe they too are being gang stalked and driven into complete insanity.
I have never done anything to warrant this form of behavior towards me let alone the criminal acts they would like the public to believe. I just want to know, why me? There are many real criminals that are actually committing horrible crimes and deserve to be monitored, they should be on the cell phone. Why waste the money and effort on me when they could be focused on real criminals? Can someone please explain? The only thing I can think of is money and revenge? I cannot think of anything else that would possess big corporations to participate in these acts of deception.
To me these companies that participate in this culture are no different than criminals themselves. They are what I call invisible criminals sitting in corporate towers. As I have told law enforcement (who completely denies I am being investigated or targeted). Any questions that you may have for me, I would be open to take a polygraph test on. I will pass with flying colors because I will tell the truth. They always say “we do not know anything about you” and exclaim “BTW, a polygraph is inadmissible in court”. Well if that be the case why does investigative teams in every state across the US have one. Again this all goes back to law enforcement knowing about this funded effort, but turning a blind eye because corporate money and higher govt is involved.
Somebody tell me why all of a sudden the truth is not important anymore. Has our society taught us that this value is no longer important. The truth always comes out in the end and I believe my fate is in God’s hands. I have done no wrong that warrants the actions conducted by the pubic. I am sure someone in this blog knows what is going on and can point me in the right direction. If anyone would like to contact me in regards to this, I can be reached on my email at prevailschaos@gmail.com. I look forward to anyone that can provide me insight as to why I am being unfairly targeted. God bless others that are being targeted for no good reason.
Comment by Chaos | February 19, 2009 |
WE are all unfairly targeted.
Comment by Willwin | October 26, 2009 |
Gang stalkers are ***-Masons. It’s part of the system. The circumcised self-chosen decided that the constitution of the United States no longer applies – not to you anyway. This phenomenon is international. Modern technology permits unaccounted abuse by the authorities.. Shit, and they are not wasting anytime with it are they? All countries where USA has strong influence will not harbor you.. leaving your residence for a new place will not likely abate your suffering. Lets not kid ourselves they are aided by government institutions, that cooperate internationally between themselves such as the American military industrial complex, various police enforcement agencies across the globe, judicial institutions, universities, medical research and development, etc.. You are being subjected to extreme manipulation techniques, that involve organized groups. The groups originated out of all sorts of crime watch groups, including various religious institutions, organizations as well.. (mostly Jew and Protestant). Does anyone still recall the infomercial played not too long ago on the TV – askafreemason.com?? Anyone who wishes to be a government lap dog should go ahead and join… I believe they provide you with favoritism vis-a-vis the rest of the humanity..
THE GOAL
The major goal of these activities is control. In other words power. They want to impose their will using these new technologies. Much of these activities are still in the early development stages and are still being tested. However, they have been at this for quite sometime.
The eventual result of organized group stalking is weakened immune system. Once that is accomplished you will fall ill and get some disease. Most likely something that has to due with your gastrointestinal functions – intestinal yeast infection. If you feel that you are at this point already, you should do the following…
1). you need to lower your adrenaline level
(adrenaline increases sugar levels in your system)
2). you need to get full 8 hours of sleep daily
3). you need to eat healthy.. (cut down on your sugar
intake) Basically, find out what you need to do in
order fight intestinal yeast infection. Do not eat
fruit or anything sweet.
4). knowing what’s going should calm you down a bit –
that’s very important.
5). exercise should reduce adrenaline levels in your system.
7). i suspect that microwaves/x-rays are being beamed at
targeted people that cause your intestinal good
bacteria to die off, disturbing your intestinal
ecosystem, making your vulnerable to fungus infection..
8). You will need to eat lots of garlic and take probiotics
with your food.
You should also keep in mind that the technologies that are being used against you are pretty advanced. Most people never heard of these things. they have the ability to manipulate your thoughts. They can read your mind. They can read other people’s minds that are not even aware that something is going on. They are able to put words into other people’s mouths making you thing that you’re going crazy. Also, I’ve also seen a mouse being completely controlled from a remote location – just like a remote controlled car. If they want it to go left, it goes left, if they want it to go right, it goes right, etc.. I suspect that they can do that with human beings as well.. pretty scary shit. Another things you should keep in mind that there are two groups of people around you. Those who are in on it and those who are not and that you have no way of telling who knows what is going on and who doesn’t.. So take good care before you start dropping your friends.. they probably have no idea what is happening to you or to them.. You should pass all you know to every victim and all other people who believe in freedom.
In order to be free it is necessary to know what freedom is..
Fight the power!
Your enemies are ***-Masons!
**Started out portions due to blog banning comments.***
Comment by caballero | February 20, 2009 |
This post has gone through, because it seems that it might be a useful post. I usually just delete your posts, because they almost always include racist comments, that are sure to get my blog banned, which seems to be the goal. Not helpful to me or my blog. Also unfounded racist comments are not helpful to anyone. Anyways the less helpful portion of your post has been starred out at the very end. I am not going to be letting informants ruin my blog. On the small chance that you are not a snitch, then can you understand why your posts do get banned?
Anyways, the post other than the last part may be of assisstance, so there it goes.
Comment by gangstalking | February 21, 2009 |
I forgot to mention that these groups are frequently hanging out in clubs, and bars.. gang stalking is also the major part of the feminist movement today.. In fact females of all ages are used as stalkers.. slander, seduction, are the primary tools for these activities.. Keep in mind that your cell phones will be used against you to track you. If you don;t have one, it doesn’t matter.. people who know you do.. furthermore, your home lines may be tapped to eves drop on you, your family, people you know.. it’s sort of like in that movie with Bruce Wills – Live free or die hard..
Comment by caballero | February 20, 2009 |
I just wanted to leave one last comment for today… this web site.. is probably created by the same people who are doing the gang stalking.. this knowledge I pass to you.. use it.. do what you can to help yourselves..
Comment by caballero | February 20, 2009 |
Here are several new interesting articles which maybe gang stalking related. I think the picture that’s beginning to come together is that of a corrupt judicial system where money rules the law:
Pennsylvania rocked by ‘jailing kids for cash’ scandal
Story Highlights
Two Pennsylvania judges plead guilty to federal fraud charges
Judges received more than $2.6 million from youth detention centers
Minors appeared before judge accepting cash from private prisons
Hundreds of minors weren’t represented, attorneys say
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/02/23/pennsylva...
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Federal Agency Aided Md. Spying
Tuesday, February 17, 2009; Page B01
The U.S. Department of Homeland Security tracked the protest plans of a peaceful Washington area antiwar group and passed the information to the Maryland State Police, which had previously labeled the activists as terrorists in an intelligence file.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...
Comment by FormerTI | February 23, 2009 |
They try to pass this of as legitimate enteties, sugar coating blatant lies.. It’s for the good of the community, they write… They need to report the other side of the story. I t seems to me that they have conveniently missed to report 95% of what these groups really do…
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/02/24/neighborhood.watch.economy/index.html
Comment by Caballero | February 24, 2009 |
Interesting article, I had always though that ‘gang stalking’ had possible CIA roots. Hersh goes into how Cheney had a domestic spy program that sought to quiet those he deemed to be an enemy of the state. Notice Hersh did not say terrorist, but enemies of the state. An enemy of the state can be anyone depending on ones ideological background. I hope when Hersh completes his research he goes into the slow kill aspect of this ‘executive assassination ring’, I believe these are our gang stalkers.
“Replied Hersh:
“Yuh. After 9/11, I haven’t written about this yet, but the Central Intelligence Agency was very deeply involved in domestic activities against people they thought to be enemies of the state. Without any legal authority for it. They haven’t been called on it yet. That does happen.”
http://www.minnpost.com/ericblackblog/2009/03/11/7310/investigative_reporter_seymour_hersh_describes_executive_assassination_ring
Comment by FormerTI | March 11, 2009 |
Extended Cointelpro program as a means to control society.
Comment by gangstalking | March 16, 2009 |
The key point here is Hersh statement that some very good people are joining the military and forced to do these things. My guess is that this related to the domestic program. He emphasizes that these are good people that have a conscious and seem to regret what is being done.
Comment by acads | October 22, 2009 |
hi,its me kevin.just wanna see how your doing.
Comment by kevin cadogan | April 26, 2009 |
iam not a victim of gangstalking but i know someone close too me that has.hope he finds peace someday.
Comment by martha | April 26, 2009 |
Hi, I’m a recent gang stalking victim, living in Thailand. I’ve been stalked & harassed by electromagnetic weapons for over 8 months. These people are ruining my life in every aspect, even now as I’m posting this comment, I’m experienced intense pain on my left feed. I get so frustrated every now and then when they made me cough (beaming through my throat).
I recently develop my own blog (in Thai) to speak out and share my experiences with fellow thai citizens, seem this is the only way I can stand up to those bastards. You can now mark Thailand in your gang stalking map worldwide now. It here, and it;s real.
Comment by pochara | May 12, 2009 |
This is happening to my friend. This is torture and it is completely illegal.
Comment by Anne | May 19, 2009 |
This is becoming more and more common. No-one is safe.
Comment by Alana Brack | May 21, 2009 |
I have been a victim for almost forty years since i was 10 years old i am now 46. I do honestly believe my parents are to blame for this as it couldn’t be anybody else. My parents have always given me financial support yet when i need emotional support they are not there..they have even gona as far as laugh at me down the phone when ive cried in desperation. ive found the best way to beat the system is to ignore it of course you cant ignore everything..if you have a problem sort it out just like any other person would not accusing those around you of a conspiracy…they will do there best to make it look like someone is guilty of conspiring against you but be assured they will have a alternative motive and you will just end up looking crazy. Don’t take any notice of your stalkers again what they want is a reaction. All provable things done against you will only be done occasionally so they can put it down to bad luck everything else will not be provable and make you look mentally ill if you report them or talk about them. only record provable actions against you and how often they occur. if you use a camera to record your stalkers and you find someone at the same spot everyday wearing the the same clothes for example try to record the situation as you leave your house and predict a situation before you get there…once might be a coincidence to or three times in a row is not. I had several different people waiting outside the same shop wearing black sunglasses a red backpack for several days in a row soon as i started recording it it stopped. it will get to the stage where you think everybody is a stalker ..when you get to this stage tell yourself its all in your imagination and ignore all coincidences… smile and walk past don’t let it get to you. YOU can ruin there day by not letting them upset yours! I have no anger towards them i just feel sorry for them
Comment by terry | July 18, 2009 |
I do not appreciate having my perfectly healthy body and mind destroyed by a group of freemasons. This is an extremely annoying situation. This is illegal.
Comment by Jerry Katze | June 11, 2009 |
It is not just them! There are other groups involved.
Comment by Willwin | October 26, 2009 |
The whole thing is systemic, again that is why some targets report Scientologist, Masons, Church Groups, Extremist, Street Gangs, etc,
Every sector of society takes part.
Comment by gangstalking | October 31, 2009
Hello All,
I have been away for awhile. I believe I am still being stalked. I am living in a remote rural area now and have been for a year. I still feel terrible. The other day I noticed I was being followed to town once I got on the highway. The person kept following me with there brights on me all the way. Followed me everywhere in town that I went. So I kept waving to them. My skin condition on my neck has gotten worse and it is obvious that it done with some type of laser weapon. A dermatologist called it Poilikioderma Civatee UF. Which is skin damage done by high frequency light. Looks terrible. ALso nothing can be done to reverse it. Looks like big red birth mark on both sides of my neck. I do believe I am dying. Too many health problems and my doctor cannot get things under control. No appetite, no energy. Well thats it.
Comment by Chuck | June 25, 2009 |
Chuck,
I’ve learned that mirrors reflect back sound wave technology used against us—so I bet it would work really well against lasers, too. Could you get any small mirrors to affix to the back of your car seat or back of neck [unseen, maybe covered up partially]–and all around you on the inside walls? They would have to be turned around to face the Intruder—as much as possible. I know it’s awkward—I do some shielding also—but, do you know God? Are you a Christian? If so, or even if not—ask God’s help—I even ask him to block energy transmissions when I’m driving on the road. I pray out loud and announce to the satanists that we are winning–and for them to be found out–and that we forgive and don’t hold grudges. He makes us able to love our enemies–even when we don’t feel like it–even when something really bad happens and we feel low. But it’s His love, not ours. We really need it. Ask for His help. Jesus is God’s Son. **
Comment by lifevorce | August 27, 2009 |
Are you guys for real? Does this really exist? Do you really believe people have enough time to do this to you? I could understand if you had some kind of political or social power…a platform…a voice that was widely heard. But I don’t think this can be so.
Comment by ParanoiaWillDestroya | July 29, 2009 |
Do some research on Cointelpro and the Stasi, then come back to me.
Comment by gangstalking | August 5, 2009 |
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Comment by casey uk | August 12, 2009 |
More to the story–of my previous reply to a Posting. There is some sort of Tracking device on our family car, that runs on the power supply. I know this, because I noticed our family car would have less power of acceleration compared to other cars in traffic–for over 26 years! Some Common M.O.’s [Modus Operandi]:
They call stores whenever I walk in–or if no phone, will send some ‘operatives’.
Operatives could be a male-female team, or a gang of ‘teenagers’ or even a ‘Parent & child.’ I understand that this one violates the USA Patriot Act–that they are acting under Color of Law Violations and accusing and threatening a citizen makes THEM a terrorist…
When I go to a Drive-thru coffee shop OR fast food place–a person in a car or a Pick-up truck WILL drive by on the other side—or follow behind me and speak up on their order microphone—
If I wait at my adult child’s house, either in car or right by the door—Neighborhood Watchers and/or Dog-walkers WILL walk by. Include those on Bicycles. At least three different groups of people in a matter of minutes. And it continues as long as I am there—at times when people don’t normally go out walking—9:00pm or Later—
My next door neighbor, an elderly woman has been co-opted into watching me out her window. What did They tell her? Why watch me in my back yard? To intimidate and let me know that I Am Never Alone. I know the Lord is with me—much more than They could ever be. –**
Comment by lifevorce | August 26, 2009 |
There is a mind control device in my head mimicking the effects of dispensing massive quantities of methamphetamine . I am in severe physical pain. I am finding it difficult to concentrate at work. This form of torture breaches the Geneva Convention and the United Declaration of human rights. It is evident that there is some kind of government plot ( the freemasons? ) to torture, enslave and kill normal citizens. This is completely illegal and morally reprehensible. If anyone reading this could please complain to the police, a lawyer, Amnesty International or UN it would be much appreciated.
Comment by John | September 3, 2009 |
I am sorry to hear of this, and we are all doing what we can.
Comment by gangstalking | September 12, 2009 |
It is such a beautiful life, why do people do these things to other people? They think they are saving the planet from us(TI)! Us,LOL!!!
Comment by Willwin | October 26, 2009 |
They think they are saving the planet from us, but the truth is, when their masters are ready to really brutalize them and work them over, we are who they will come looking for to help them, and we will likely not be there. Although they will on the other hand, likely be too stupid to care.
Comment by gangstalking | October 31, 2009 |
I will no longer remain silent about the suffering I have endured without cause or explanation. The reasons are irrelevant and I no longer care what the consequences of speaking out are. For the past ten years I have been victimized in my home, on the recieving end of electronic devices designed to cause physical and emotional harm. I have watched my family be ripped apart by culprits who have hide their faces to avoid being held accountable for their crimes. I am not distraught or frightened, but I am willing to speak about what was done and continues to be done.
Comment by Minnesota | October 31, 2009 |
I am sorry to hear about what is happening to you. I get so many people with similar happenings.
Comment by gangstalking | November 2, 2009 |