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Not a truther

9/11 Truth.

Many people say that they want 9/11 truth, but I think the truth is that many people can not truly handle 9/11 truth.

I don’t consider myself a truther in the traditional sense. I do believe much like Operation Northwoods that 9/11 was planned and carried out by internal forces. That’s where it ends for me. If people want to believe it, good for them, if not good for them. I do not need or care if people believe the truth, cause quite frankly I don’t believe most people can truly handle the truth.

I support 9/11 truthers. I wish them the best, if they find any new evidence, then I try to post it, but this is not a real issue for me, and in that sense I don’t consider myself a truther.

I do consider real truthers to be brave, I share and understand the frustration of trying to uncover a conspiracy of vast portions. Trying to prove that people are being placed under investigations, on lists, and followed by informants has been no easy task these last four years.

I think 9/11 truthers are brave. I have heard about the questionable deaths, about 23 year olds dying of heart attacks. They have a very challenging road, and I don’t envy them their cause. I believe people being Gang Stalked, meaning followed around by informants and placed under investigations, gaslighted, and on lists will be proven. 9/11 I am not so sure about.

For 9/11 to be proven I very much believe that the momentum must keep going. This week the truthers are being tested. People are trying to link them to holocaust denial, they did this with climate skeptics as well. They are trying to link them as a dangerous conspiracy, anyone believing in it needs to be watched and on and on it goes. If anything however the shooting this week near the pentagon, just shows the need to have the investigation re-opened. It shows that people still have many unanswered questions, and that by mocking them, turning them into terrorist, and stifling their unanswered questions, you do them and society no good. It just goes to show that this issue is not going away. People want truth on this topic. To settle for anything less is deeply disrespectful to the dead and those dying from 9/11 complications. To heal the psyche of the American Nation, the truth must be uncovered, but when and if it is, can and will you be ready to handle the truth?

Before you can have the truth, you must be prepared to deal with all the consequences that truth can bring. For me I knew that there was something happening. I realised I was being followed while out in public. I tested and verified that I was under surveillance. I knew the people around me were involved, and not telling me the truth. I was left out of something vital, and it was horrifying emotionally. It came to the stage where not knowing the truth, was worst than knowing the truth. I prayed and surrendered myself to a higher power, and just said that I needed the truth, and no matter what it was, I could accept it.  I had to get myself into that state of readiness first, or else, I don’t believe the truth would have come, and it would have been more years of knowing something was going on, and not knowing what.

To have truth, you must be in a state where you can handle truth. Is America ready for this? Many think they are, I disagree. Think about the real consequences, and ask yourself again if you can handle the truth.

Can you accept that Democratic countries went to two wars, based on lies?

Killed over a million Iraqi’s?

Raped and murdered woman and children?

That your own citizens were killed in a government plot to go to war, just like Operation Northwoods, but 40-50 years later.

Are you really ready to handle the betrayal?

Are you truly ready for the emotional pain that would cause? I mean really raw emotional pain?

Are you ready for how that would change your view of yourselves as hero’s of the world to villains?

Are you ready for all the consequences that have come due to 9/11. The prison/concentration camps of innocent men and woman, who did nothing to America?

The solders raped, the ones who died for nothing, who committed suicide fighting an unjust war?

Do you honestly think you are ready for all that? I don’t think you are. I don’t think you can handle the truth, and thus why I don’t consider myself a truther. I believe that the above is the truth, but I leave it to braver men and women than myself to try to convince you of such.

I don’t care if you ever come to believe the truth, I don’t think you can handle it, I don’t want to see the emotional pain it would cause you. I have been there myself in discovering the truth about what governments are capable of, and it takes years to come to the point of acceptance. This does not happen overnight.

Americans think so well of themselves, see themselves as patriotic, proud. Could you really handle the truth of that, if the truth was that your government, your parent figure did something so bad, to your fellow brothers, sisters, countrymen? I don’t think so.

I think Americans are good people, they want to believe the best about the government, that it will protect them and look after them. I don’t think they are gullible, yet I see them getting played, the way Hal Turner played people, time and time again.

With all my heart and I am being as honest as I can be. I don’t think you can handle the truth. I don’t think anyone who knows the truth about 9/11 has any real incentive to come forward. You don’t generally protect whistle-blowers, and there is hardly a person on earth who could truly protect a real 9/11 whistle-blower.

Just like people lie and keep quite about the informant network used to follow Targeted Individuals around, I don’t see any need for 9/11 whistle-blowers to do anything less to protect themselves.

That’s why I don’t consider myself a truther, but I do believe that 9/11 was deliberate, but I just don’t care if others can handle the truth, just as long as I can. Sometimes personal truth is as good as it gets.

Maybe someday in some far away land, the psyche of the American people will be far enough removed that they will see and understand that the actions of their governments, is not, I repeat not something that they are, or were responsible for. Maybe then truth  of this horrible time that has past, can finally come to light, but until then I don’t think that you can handle the truth.

So feel free to jump on this post, at a time when others are hiding in the sand, I still say, you did it. I don’t care if anyone else believes, or knows the truth, personal truth on this one will suffice for me. That is why I don’t consider myself a truther.

March 7, 2010 Posted by | 9/11, Abu Ghraib, Conspiracy, Gang Stalking, government corruption | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | 1 Comment

The List

The List

How do you get placed on a list?

There are a few ways.

*Someone reports you as a drug dealer, terrorist, pedophile, crazy. They report an incident. A community investigation is opened.

In a normal society this should go on for a few months and be over with, but in the case of Jiverly Wong, this went on for close to 20 years, and in the lives of many others it goes on for years as well, never ending, and it’s used to harass an innocent person.

http://gangstalkingworld.com/Media/2009/04/jiverly-wong/

*The workplace. Someone reports a violent incident. You create a harassment complaint, they decide that you are just delusional and decide that you might go violent. A report is filed.

I should add that based on what I have come across in the research, it seems as if workplaces and educational facilities are routinely using this as a retaliatory method. They use it to target people who file complaints. Most workers have no idea that such lists exist.

http://gangstalkingworld.com/Media/2007/03/leuren-moret/

[quote]My great-est gift was the discovery of my inner strength to be able to survive the retaliation, mobbing and harassment by the Livermore Lab, the University of California and the Oakland police department.[/quote]

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I learned that more than 500 women and minorities had filed lawsuits against the University of California and had then experienced retaliation by the University of California apparatus of mobbing by employees, alumni and law enforcement.1The lawsuits were for denial of tenure, whistleblower retaliation and theft of intel-lectual property. These women had similar complaints about the destruction of their own lives and careers. The information gathered by the University of California is used to takeyour life apart; to destroy all that makes you feel safe; to bankrupt, isolate and alienate you from society and from yourself; and to attempt to make you look crazy.
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http://www.harassment101.com/Article5.html

[quote]
Crosty and Murtagh don’t know each other. It is unlikely their worlds would ever intersect, but they have at least one thing in common. They both are victims of an increasingly popular employer weapon against whistleblowers: the psychiatric reprisal.

Across the United States, companies have seized upon concerns about workplace violence to quash dissent. Hundreds of large corporations have hired psychiatrists and psychologists as consultants to advise them on how to weed out “threatening” employees. They say they are only responding to a 1970 directive from the U.S. Occupational Safety and Health Administration that they maintain a “safe and secure work environment.” But by drawing the definition of “threatening” as broadly as possible, they are giving themselves a new club to bang over the heads of workers.
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This is not just happening in American workplaces either.

*Universities are also reporting people, and filing reports.

In the workplace and universities, from what I have seen quite a few outspoken females are getting targeted. Minorities, and other single individuals. Men that are smart outspoken, and ofcourse the whistle-blowers. Many I  assume who are not aware of the system that is currently in place. If this is the case could informants be specifically targeting non informants for harassment, or using this program specifically to weed out from the universities, and workplaces, the outspoken, radicals, whistle-blowers, non compliant?

From previous research I know that colleges and universities have been infiltrated with these types of agents, along with the normal citizen informants. Could some be working an alternative agenda?

http://www.spying101.com/

[quote]Spying 101: The RCMP’s Secret Activities at Canadian Universities, 1917-1997

If you attended a Canadian university in the past eighty years, it’s possible that, unbeknownst to you, Canadian security agents were surveying you, your fellow students, and your professors for ‘subversive’ tendencies and behaviour. Since the end of the First World War, members of the RCMP have infiltrated the campuses of Canada’s universities and colleges to spy, meet informants, gather information, and on occasion, to attend classes. Why they were there is the subject of a new book by Steve Hewitt.[/quote]

A lot of the targeting starts with mobbing, harassment, the target tries to file a complaint, get’s targeted more. Maybe they say something, lash out, or just seem angry due to the mobbing. This system is being used unfairly, just like we saw with some zero tolerance programs, that were used to specifically target minority children.

http://www.peoplesvoice.ca/articleprint12/02_BLACK-FOCUSED_SCHOOL_GOES_AHEAD_IN_TORONTO.html

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/201456

[quote]While critics are holding their applause until they see the changes, the move is being hailed by some who say the Safe Schools Act unfairly targets black youth and drives them into gangs.[/quote]

Most of the targets seem to come from these three areas. Workplace, Educational outlets, and the community.

In Canada and the U.S. they have workplace safety and standards guidelines that are similar to what is in place in the U.K. Similar reporting systems to what the U.K. has in place.

As we saw in the Jane Clift case, once on a list, your name pops up if you call the police, ambulance, doctors, ect. Employers, Landlords and a variety of others are given similar information about you.

In the U.K. this marker can be something that the victim is make aware of, but in other instances they are not.

In the U.K. this is being abused. Jane Clift being one example.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1195399/Woman-branded-potentially-violent-council-complaining-damaged-flowerbed.html

[quote]Mrs Clift added: ‘What is terrifying is that there is almost no proof required and no hearing to determine the truth of the allegation. It could happen to anybody who gets into even the most minor disagreement with their council.’

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1193210/Woman-sues-libel-council-labelled-potentially-violent-complaining-vandalised-flowerbed.html

[quote]
She said that after the council acted, she sensed that everywhere she went, there was ‘whispering, collaboration, people scurrying about’.

‘One time I went to the contraceptive clinic and I felt that there were way too many people hovering about for me than should have been there, making me feel very insecure.

‘It did serve as a reminder that everywhere I went – hospitals, GPs, libraries – anywhere at all, even if I phoned the fire service, as soon as my name went on to that system, it flagged up ‘violent person marker, only to be seen in twos, medium risk’.’
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Canada and the U.S. have similar lists, that employers, schools must report.

Most communities as shown before have networks of informants. These informant networks are working with other community programs.

http://www.albionmonitor.com/9711b/policing.html

“Ruling the community with an iron fist. “Savvy law enforcement types realized that under the community policing rubric, cops, community groups, local companies, private foundations, citizen informants and federal agencies could form alliances without causing public outcry.” Covert Action Quarterly, summer 1997.”

blog.aclu.org/2009/04/30/mass-con-fusion/#more-5320

“You mean to tell me that it is legal for corporations from the private sector to team up with local law enforcement officials in efforts to spy on innocent members of our society? You also mean to tell me that the synthesis of law enforcement authority and the drive of for-profit companies operate under little to no guidelines or restrictions and it is unclear to whom they are responsible to?”

In addition to these newly formed alliances, as the ACLU has pointed out, they are opening spying on innocent members of our society.

Informants due to various police initiatives are in every community.

So these networks operate and are in place, using the one handed sign language. The informants then feel empowered, they patrol the neighborhoods, and other areas. Since these networks are already in place, it is therefore not necessary to hire hundreds of people to follow one person, they just go about their regular patrols, and once a target enters their place of employment, business, community, or other location, the citizens are place on alert.

To the target it seems as if hundreds of people have been hired to follow just them, but the reality is, this informant network is and has been in place, and once you are on the radar, they just shift attention to you.

Eg. In Stasi Germany a large part of the state was devoted to spying, if the state added one more target, they did not need to hire hundreds of people, the network is already in place.

This can be done with phone calls, I have seen this happen, the community you are in is alerted that a pedophile, mentally disturbed person, drug dealer is in their area. They get phone calls as you pass through the area, thus some will go stand out on the porch to be visual look out, report back what you are doing.

The foot patrols alert the business, thus why we are followed into stores, they use the one handed sign language, maybe stay to see if there is an incident they can make themselves useful for and report. In other cases, they are around to create an incident, and report that.

Keep in mind that the very concept of being monitored and under this kind of surveillance 24/7 is enough to make any sane person act out. Add to this that the informants are told to circle you, sit near to you, follow you, and they don’t try to do it very subtly, a target is bound to notice.

Somewhere along the lines our societies were taken over. We helped. Without firing a bullet, or invasion, these countries have become what East Germany and other countries were.

The gaslighting of targets is illegal. Yet in WWII we saw a government create over 500 ways to mess with Nazi sympathizers. Similar tactics were used under VIK.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2006/aug/19/military.secondworldwar

[quote]BSC invented a game called “Vik”, described as “a fascinating new pastime for lovers of democracy”. Printed booklets described up to 500 ways of harassing and annoying Nazi sympathisers. Players of Vik were encouraged to ring up their targets at all hours of the night and hang up. Dead rats could be put in water tanks, air could be let out of the subject’s car tyres, anonymous deliveries could be made to his house and so on.[/quote]

If they had a game that consisted of 500 ways to harass and annoy, people then, what do you think they have now. Remember this game was invented by a UK government branch, to be used against innocent Americans.

The police, firefighters, community members are all in on it. Just like Nazi Germany, they have this false sense of community, that they are doing something good. Yeah we got that crazy drug dealer out of town. We protected our community. In reality you drove someone like Jiverly Wong to the point that the was capable of mass murdering lot’s of people. Yeah you, don’t you feel good about yourselves?

These programs are not all bad, back in the day, that is what you did. If a pedophile was in town, you took some community action to get rid of the pervert, and never gave it a second thought you were protect yours, and that was that.

It’s a not in my back yard mentality. Even if you move you are still flagged, so the same thing starts again. If each area is set up like this, which many are due to community Policing, and agenda 21, then we will see more of this in the future.

http://www.nikiraapana.com/community_activism.html

[quote]
What is alternative community activism?

When I first started going to my American neighborhood “meetings” I was a complete novice in Soviet style bureaucracy. I was confused and unsure about what was going on. I began by asking simple questions about the terms the leaders were using to descibe their “vision.” This opened Pandora’s Box, literally, because much to my suprise and dismay, my Seattle government representatives did not know what their terms meant either!

I was absolutely floored to find out somebody, somewhere had come up with this bizarre idea that a few of my neighbors should partner with the Pentagon, the KGB and the Mossad, and together they would form neighborhood policing “task teams.” These new neighborhood committees, led by “new” Community Policing Officers trained in communitarianism, were empowered to rewrite Seattle Municipal Code. They claimed revisions to the law were necessary to “balance” our constitutional rights against the “health and safety” of the community. Yet, these “experts” couldn’t tell me the definition for any of their terms, and couldn’t tell me where these new ideas had originated. It took me a year of intensive research to find their source: Dr. Amitai Etzioni.
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Though this might be still happening in some cases, the targets I come across are innocent. The lack of oversight of these programs, means that it’s being used to destroy innocent lives. The citizen informants never give it a second thought. Many never see the dirty under handed, smoke and mirrors used to set up targets to make them look crazy, like drug dealers, or pedophiles. They just unquestioningly believe what they are told.

I come across a lot of Woman that are single where this is being used to shut them up, rape them in other cases, and drive them to suicide or mental institutions in other.

I hear cases of abusive ex’s that got someone targeted. If you know how the system works you can manipulate it.

I come across minorities, who feel this is being used to target them. Lot’s of minority men and women.

I also come across whistle blowers. This is being used to target them.

The staged incidents and gaslighting are illegal, but since it’s crazies, pedophiles, drug dealers, who is going to believe them? The moment you call the cops too often, they also flag people. So it feels like you against the world literally. You know you are being harassed and followed, but most lawyers will not help, just like when McCarthyism was happening. The ACLU will not help. These programs do have a specific degree of secrecy, but not so that they outweigh the rule of law and justice.

Again this system is being used across the board, so I have come across people with extreme views, conspiracy views,  where this was used. Anyone outspoken, who is not following the status quo, this can be used against. Just like it was in Russia.

I think legal is the best way to go.

Use the U.K. example, find a lawyer who will confirm that there is such a list in your area, and then try to find the procedure if you are on such a list for getting off. The woman in the U.K. spent four years, clearing her name, and that was with proof that she was on a list. Most don’t have such proof.

Remember each area does it’s own thing, each person feels individually empowered to monitor the target the way they see fit. In many cases this includes electronic monitoring/harassment.

In addition to that, these people try to play James Bond, and in addition to innocent citizens who are just trying to do a good job, and protect their communities from being taken over by bad elements, you also have complete morons, and psychopaths in others cases, who are given access to innocent individuals who in most cases have no idea what is going on.

Pushing for legislation that makes it mandatory to alert people that they are on such lists might help in some cases. This is close enough, that legally we should be looking into this channel.

Remember the ACLU has confirmed investigations of innocent individuals are happening. In the U.K. they have exposed how the anti-terror laws are being abused, to include full investigation of individuals.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/henryporter/2010/feb/01/ripa-act-surveillance-authorities

[quote]A freedom of information request by the Lancashire Evening Post has found that applications made by Lancashire county council under Ripa laws targeted cleaners who failed to show up for work and a care assistant who claimed too much on travel expenses. “A person in Chorley thought to be selling counterfeit goods via eBay, people pursuing false personal injury claims, and a retailer selling furniture not up to fire safety standards were among those investigated using powers granted under the act,” the paper reported.

In last year’s annual report, the surveillance commissioner, Sir Christopher Rose, raised concerns about direct surveillance such as the bugging of public places, taking photographs of suspects and the use of covert human intelligence such as informants and undercover agents. Of course this has always been part of police investigation into serious crime, but it is frightening to see these tactics routinely deployed in trivial circumstances.

His fears came to mind when I read a quote in the LEP from Jim Potts, a trading standards officer, who said: “We have simply recorded that a member of staff has seen another member of staff do something at work, in the way that managers can and do every day.” How easily that trips from Potts’s lips, but what of course he is unwittingly justifying is the informant society. In Staffordshire a FoI request made of the police by the Express and Star newspaper found that terror laws were being used to monitor drug dealers, people suspected of sex crimes, burglars and thieves. In 10 cases police tracked people suspected of minor public order offences.[/quote]

Many of our citizen informants that we encounter on the road, just think they are part of some great powerful network keeping dangerous people at bay. Then there are those who know the real game, those who set up targets. Also just like Germany, you have informants who bait targets, so they can act out. If they do it’s another marker, or jail, or a mental hospital, maybe even death. Remember the more crazy people, drug dealers, pedophiles, terrorists, the more funding, the bigger the network.

Employees and others have been using this practice for years, to destroy lives. Woman, minorities, whistle-blowers seem to be prime targets, but it’s not limited to them. If you read Leuren Mowet’s story, she knew 500 people, who had similar investigations opened on them, which was used to systemically destroy their lives.

If you look at the article make a stink see a shrink you will see that psychiatric reprisals is being heavily used in democratic countries.

If you visit the site Psychologist Ethics, you will see that psychiatrists were even willing to try to have one of their own declared as crazy, just because she blew the whistle.

http://www.PsychologistEthics.net
http://gangstalkingworld.com/Forum/YaBB.pl?num=1205028541

[quote]MORE ABOUT POLITICAL PSYCHOLOGY § ^
When one imagines using mental health professionals to target undesirable individuals, one almost always thinks of totalitarian governments such as the former USSR, China, and Cuba. There is a long and ugly precedent of using mental health professionals in those societies to target politically undesirable people and have them placed in mental institutions involuntarily. Human rights groups refer to this practice as “political psychiatry.”

Victims of political psychiatry are usually people who have filed grievances or complaints against employers or officials, or are union organizers, people who have publicly criticized officials, members of minority religions, and whistle-blowers.[/quote]

But this is now happening in democratic countries.

[quote]CASES OF POLITICAL PSYCHOLOGY § ^
Southern Illinois University and the American Psychological Association (APA)

A Canadian Police Department and the Canadian College of Psychologists

Lisa Blakemore-Brown and the British Psychological Society (BPS) [/quote]

[quote]In this case, the psychologist made an unsubstantiated assessment of the faculty member based solely on what the faculty member’s “enemies” had said about her. The psychologist made no effort to verify any of the rumors she had heard and instead wrote them as fact in her reports and made recommendations based on them. As part of the counseling and conflict resolution process, the psychologist also carried on e-mail communication with the faculty member but forwarded this communication to the university’s administration without the faculty member’s knowledge or permission. The psychologist never told the faculty member that there would be any limits to confidentiality nor did she tell her what process she would be following or that she would be writing reports to the administration. Obviously, if there had been any legitimacy to the psychologist’s conclusions and report, the matter would have been handled privately and compassionately by the university’s human resources staff.[/quote]

http://scientific-misconduct.blogspot.com/2007/01/lisa-blakemore-brown-colleagues-weigh.html

In the case of Lisa Blakemore-Brown the damage could have been far worst had not some bloggers picked up on what was happening.

[quote]Dr Rita Pal has weighed-in on the scandal of Lisa Blakemore Brown and the British Psychological Society (backstory here and here). Dr Pal has become an expert on the bullying of individuals by professional regulatory bodies through the abuse of mental health diagnosis after she was subjected to a campaign of intimidation by the General Medical Council [Link to court judgment]. The concerns that Dr Pal raised that led to her abuse (about patient maltreatment in a Midlands hospital – Link) have not to this date been properly addressed. She subsequently brought proceedings against the GMC, leading to a landmark judgment in which the GMC was described as a totalitarian regime by Judge Charles Harris – “Anybody who criticises it is said to be prima facie mentally ill – what used to happen in Russia”.[/quote]

The system is now routinely being used to destroy enemies of the state, people with views and opinions that the state does not like and the destruction of these innocent lives are being done with the help in many cases of other unwitting citizens.

Years of research have been spent trying to expose these systemic misconducts. Others have noticed them in their areas of research, some noting that the best and brightest are beint targeted, and still nothing gets done.

http://gangstalkingworld.com/Forum/YaBB.pl?num=1205738832/0

I still believe that awareness and exposure are still key, in getting what is happening exposed. I do think when targets can afford to do so they should see legal help, but in order to do so, they have to have an idea of what is being used against them.

March 3, 2010 Posted by | Citizen Informants, Community harassment, Gang Stalking, Gangstalking, harassment, Informants, Minorities | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | 8 Comments