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Kate! A Portrait of Dorian Gray.

Kate! A Portrait of Dorian Gray.

I think the artist got the picture correct. I should also add that in the other pictures, Catherine looks really great.

I think all in all very well done. 🙂

This portrait, the only truthful reflection the world will ever likely see, and even then they will never truly comprehend it.

 

 

January 12, 2013 Posted by | Awareness | , , , , , | 3 Comments

Your forums are infiltrated

http://republicbroadcasting.org/?p=6690

Your forums are infiltrated.

I have been on several large forums latetly and the discussions are all the same. The people are talking about how the forums are infiltrated, how the quality of the conversations are not the same.

I have to agree with the forums that I have been to, the chatter on these forums, where once bright and intellegent, almost revolutionary, seem to be quite different now.

One forum that is listed as a conspiracy forum constantly makes fun of members who post conspiracies, or calls into question the mentality of anyone who would believe them. A lot of these forums were set up by intellegence agencies in the first place, and the rest that were not are so over run that they may as well have been set up my shrills. That’s how it’s working.

Hijacked threads, threads where the conversation goes off topic, nothing get’s done, you just waste your time. Good threads don’t go anywhere, no one posts to them. Or if a topic is discussed and a good point made, several posters will post in the thread till the useful or relavant point is off the main page. The people on the forums, know how to work, and control the boards, and it’s working.

I saw one forum, where they shamed the posters into shuting up about talking about a conspiracy. They made the posters feel stupid, and so the conversation almost died, till one poster pointed out what was happening.

I can tell you what use to happen on some of the organized stalking forums, where people would join, a real target would feel that they were being signled out for barbs, or a real target would afterwards realize this forum is not about activism. They would point out that it feels like something is getting done, but the forums are there to ensure that nothing is getting done, no real progress is being made, but lately it’s worst and worst, and this seems to be happening on many forums across the internet.

It’s something members of the various forums have likely noticed, but I just wanted to bring this awareness to the surface, so that it could be more readily discussed, and evaluated.

November 9, 2010 Posted by | Above top secret, Bullying, Conspiracy, control, Controlled society, Gang Stalking | , , , , , , , , , , , , | 3 Comments

Red Pill Blue Pill

Ever wish you could go back and do it all over again?

With Gang Stalking, knowing what it is, do you ever wish that you could go back and do it all over again?

Knowing what it is now, if you had to go back and do it all over again, which one would you take, the red pill or the blue pill?

Would you really want to know the truth? Would you rather live in ignorance?

Most people think that they want to know the truth, that they can handle the truth, but the reality is often that they can’t. I tend to have a good handle on myself. Since the Gang Stalking thing began, I realise that there are some truths, that I want to know, need to know, but can’t always handle, so time has pass, so that I can handle the truth.

I think for me however, all in all, I would want to know the truth. No matter how bad it was, I would want to know the truth, cause I am usually not happy with lies, or knowing that there is something just out of my reach that I just can not grasp.

Knowing the truth is not always an easy thing, sometimes it can even be a life altering or life destroying thing, but I often think if it does not kill you, it only makes you stronger.

Many learnt the truth about Gang Stalking and many have survived and some even lived to see even more bizarre things come in their lives.

Now if anyone had had access to my thoughts before or just when I found out about the Gang Stalking thing, I am sure they might have thought me really mentally off balance. The things that go through your mind, or your thoughts are not necessarily how you would react externally to a situation. The mind is there to help you absorb and understand information, and it will not, and should not take on more than it is ready for. At times you might want to give yourself a swift kick int he butt, or a slap back to reality, but at other times what you need is a gentle reassuring hung that says it’s going to be ok, and that you can mentally get through it all.

Even when I realised what was going on, there are so many times, that I slipped back to denial, disbelief, doubt, wanting it to be something easy, something simple, something that could be sorted out really quickly. Most targets are like this, we hope that the conspiracy is not real, that it’s not true, but the ones who stand a better chance of survival in short order, come to quickly realize that it is true, and our cities are these little mini Stasi villas.

The true is capable of leaving you completely shocked, floored, numb, but eventually you have to overcome those states and move on, most people can do this with enough time, but what if time is of the essence? What is you don’t have that time, then what? How do you recover from a deep shock to the system, hit the ground, and continue running, to ensure your survival and maybe the survival of others? You just have to try to find a way, to rally that strength and come about in short order.

I like to think that with the Gang Stalking thing, I have been able to do that to a small degree. Some see this a being radical, or extreme, some might even see it as being infamous, I don’t mind a bit of infamy, it keeps the label of boring at bay, you can’t be infamous and boring, I don’t think. Do I see myself as any of those things? I just see myself as fighting for my survival, trying to research and find out the truth about something that was happening to me. Something that most people around me were lying about, no matter how much I suspected the truth that they were lying, that something was going on, the conspiracy continued, and then suddenly one day, I came across a portion of the truth, and as you can see it would be over time, with lots of research, that most of the rest presented itself.

I now look back and think, if I had known what I know now, would I have wanted to know the truth? If I knew my normal world as I knew it was going to end, and this lovely strange thing called Gang Stalking would become a large part of my reality, would I have wanted that? I don’t know, but I do know that if I had not gone after the truth, if I had ignored my instincts and left things as they were, I likely would not have survived. The trappings that they have successfully set for so many other targets, would likely have devoured me, and I am not sure where I would be, but I am here, I have survived this far, and I have found out a great deal of truth about this creepy system, and the kinds of people that are created within this kind of system.

With anything that you are going through, my suggestion is to give yourself some time to let the shock, trauma disbelief settle in, take the time you need, but in some cases you can not take too much time, because the next situation is at hand, and then next, and the next, and the one after that. If life was not bad enough, parasitic individuals are specifically assigned to targets, to ensure that these situation happen in our life, more than they should. Creepy, but truth.

Anyways at the end of the day, I would want to know the truth. It took me close to two years daily going, I just can’t believe that this is happening, you have my blog posts to back this up, and eventually it did settle in, I got past it, and most days, I can act pretty nonchalant. The staged accidents the informants try to set up, you learn to avoid those. Being aware that anything you say, or do, can be used to list you as mentally unstable, you learn to be cautious in that capacity. As a target you learn to shield in your home, and do what you can to try to ensure that the physical torture that is being remotely inflicted is minimal. Many keep writing their stories, hoping someone will listen, I recommend praying, it’s the only force, that I truly trust, that has worked over the last several years.

Faith it does not always come easy, and some days it may not come at all, but you have to keep with it. The days before I found out what was happening, I remember well how people were happy to lie, pretend that nothing was going on, it took a lot of faith to hold on to the belief that I knew that something was going on, for a time I had me to confirm things with, and none else, but I held firm, and at the end of the day I was right. My suspicions were correct, some around me were indeed betraying me in the sense that they knew, and had not said anything. Many around me were lying, set up’s were happening, things were being done deliberately, and for a time, I was the only sounding board that I could use. It’s hard under those conditions. Most people have trusted individual around them, that they can rely on, some are not so fortunate, and are their own sounding boards at times, till others can be found, or evidence can be gathered.

So to the other targets out there, now that you have some idea, or hopefully have some idea of what is happening, which pill would you rather take? The Red pill or the Blue Pill?

I should add that I think a lot of people in this world take the blue pill, it makes life easier, it’s denial, it works, and that is why the world keep going like it is, I don’t blame them for preferring the Blue Pill, but for me I still prefer the Red Pill of truth at the end of the day, even though it might take me a while to get there.

August 15, 2010 Posted by | Gang Stalking | , , , , , , , | 3 Comments

Breaking The Story

Breaking The Story

Where are the other conspiracy sites that claim that they hate the mainstream media because they never cover stories that we want to hear, that they cover up some stories. So an alternative press was created.  Where is the alternative media to cover this story? Where are the big names that bring you all the latest Illuminati distraction, and then show you the way to break free of your slavery on ground level? Where are you? Everyday I hear you on the forums, oh we are slaves, oh we are controlled, well then what are you doing about it to fight for your freedom? Are you doing your part?

See I think that people are bondless slaves because it’s just comfortable enough. One monkey tries to break free or reach for that banana and the other monkeys rush in to stop the money trying to break out of the mold. That is why you are slaves. I mean the powers that be play a role. They have created a system, they create problem, reaction, solution scenarios all the time, but it’s the people at ground level that fall for the lie, that leave the truth by the way side, and continue to lovingly cling to their bonds.

Too many people would have nothing without this system. They love their little community health and safety roles, it makes them feel powerful, why would it not, I have seen people in cults with the same false sense of power. Your power does not come from yourself, it comes because the higher bondless slave masters have granted you a crumb, which they can take back, and most of the bondless slaves know it. True worth comes from within, and no one can take that, no matter how much their group try to take away what is yours, what you have worked hard for. That is why they are slaves, because they are willing to parasitically feed off of the hard work of others, then they tell themselves they are a community, a family, you are brain washed slaves, and do not play yourselves, and do not tell yourselves any differently.

None of them are allowed to act without doing what the system tells them to, that is slavery. Who to work with, who to associate with, when to render help to, when not to. This system rewards the compliant and removes the none compliant, the independent thinkers. That is why eventually you will have unqualified people running your society. The DSM is going to be going heavily after those independent thinkers with their next revisions, and then any form of rebellion can be classified as mental illness. No one is paying attention to this but you should be. Again they are going after the children, and the adults to make sure the free thinkers, the smart and wise amongst you don’t have the chance, from what I can see, they will be enabled.

http://www.naturalnews.com/028803_psychiatry_disease.html

[quote]Now independent thinkers are considered diseased by psychiatry
Monday, May 17, 2010

Psychiatrists have been working on the fourth revision of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) and, in it, they hope to add a whole slew of new psychiatric disorders. Unfortunately, many of these disorders are merely differences in personality and behavior among people.

The new edition may include “disorders” like “oppositional defiant disorder”, which includes people who have a pattern of “negativistic, defiant, disobedient and hostile behavior toward authority figures.” Some of the “symptoms” of this disorder including losing one’s temper, annoying people and being “touchy”.

Other “disorders” being considered include personality flaws like antisocial behavior, arrogance, cynicism or narcissism. There are even categories for people who binge eat and children who have temper tantrums.

Children are already over-diagnosed for allegedly being bipolar or having attention-deficit disorder (ADD), which results in their being prescribed dangerous antipsychotic drugs. To categorize even more childhood behaviors as psychiatric disorders will only further increase the number of children who will be needlessly prescribed antipsychotic drugs.
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Truth will not expose itself, it must have help along the way. You know what the system is doing. People like Jiverly Wong were tormented until they snapped taking lives, then people rail against him, but never stop to ask about the evils that the system did, that lead him to that. They go on with their lives an willfully enable the next scenario to happen, cause it makes them feel powerful.

Part of what i see reminds me of the stories that I read of male rape in the jails. I have heard men who have been raped, say that they went on to rape cause it make them feel like they could get back their power. Then they too join in monstrosities that can not be imagined. Others however go on to become defenders of those in jail, guiding them in the right path, helping them stay out of trouble. I see the slaves trying to be down other slaves, they know that they are not a community, that they are slaves, but they will be damned if anyone try for freedom. The little that I have read about slavery in the past, I believe their were slaves like that that alerted their masa when another prisoner would try to escape. I think the system works like that. I understand that they did it out of fear, but what I see are a lot of little punks getting off on the fake power the system gives them. That’s not ok.

Real people of valour need to do what they can. Some in my opinion do not want freedom, and that is ok, but it’s not ok to interfere with those who are trying go get theirs. Be slaves if you will, but step out of the way of others that choose the path of freedom.

People want truth. 9/11 truth, they complain about secret societies, who really rules the world, they always say how much they want truth, but when truth comes, what do they really do with it, and for it? I have been rethinking a lot of things over the last few days. I believe their are some who want freedom, that want this system exposed, that remember decency, and who know that this is wrong. Maybe this system started to protect, but it’s being abused. It’s being used like a gang, or a mafia of some sort. Once targeted a person is put on a social hit list, and their lives ruined, petty things that are illegal are allowed, disgraceful lies are allowed to be spread, and people just assume that most targets are then going to want to join, and do the same to others?

The side that I saw tells me everything that I need to know, because I have seen it enough in human history. 20 years ago, this truth might not have come to light, 10 years ago it did not come to light, 5 years ago, strange stories about group stalking, electronic harassment, human rights abuses, a structure that was systemic, that destroyed lives, that was responsible for suicides, mass killings, illegal institutionalization’s, false arrests, and then finally the finger seems to at least semi be pointed in the right direction, but those arbitrators, those bastions of truth who cry for it daily on forums, who talk tough, are no where to be seen.

People want others to do everything and then like Henny Penny when the work is all done, they want to join in, well to join in, people have to do some work. Those that are part of the system understand how it works. I am learning what I can from the outside, which is where I want to be.  But you on the inside know your system, you are in my opinion better able to know the workarounds. At least that’s what I would hope. Anyways it’s their it’s truth, the next time you cry about it, whine about it, wonder why you don’t have it, then there is your answer.

May 21, 2010 Posted by | Citizen Informants, Community harassment, Conspiracy, control, Controlled society, david icke, Gang Stalking, harassment, Informants | , , , , , , | 3 Comments

Truth

Truth

Maybe people don’t have truth, because they are not willing to fight for the truth. I have spent the last several years researching Gang Stalking, and finally coming to what I think is close enough to the truth, to put a name on what is happening.

Usually in a society when a truth is revealed, and a wrong is uncovered such as what has been happening to targets, other elements would come forward to support this initiative, to further help support the truth that is uncovered, and to help right the wrongs that are being done. You see this with stories about executions that are happening in wars zones, or civilians that are being illegally killed or murdered. The little that society can do in these cases they do. They discuss it, they talk about it, the media prints articles, and though it does not fix what is wrong, it does not make it right, at least the injustice is exposed.

I have also been trying to expose an injustice for the last several years, with varying degrees of success. Eg. I find that some forums, some communities are more open and familiar with the idea and the concept. I find that on others forums, they are less familiar with the concept, and the more mainstream they are, they frantically rush to try to deny the truth, delete the truth, or close down the truth. I see a controlled society and controlled people everyday. I see the slaves of the system, tightening the chains that bind them everyday, making sure those chains are more secure, and with those chains any chances of their freedom.

Throughout time people have come along and presented truth, usually with varying degrees of success. Some are killed for telling the truth, others jailed, some socially annexed, only to have those same people be praised later on when society is ready for the truths that they were telling in their time period. When society is not ready for the truth, it can be a very slow process for changes, but change can happen.

At one point America thought that owning slaves was a natural thing to do, now in today’s society many people would think that human slavery is wrong. At one point in history many Germans thought they were doing the right thing for the fatherland by gathering up their neighbours, informing on them, and sending them out of the community, Germany in many ways has reflected on that time and decided it was wrong, but at the time, you would have been in the minority had you pointed out any differently, or been called a sympathizer. Germany would also again reflect on the Stasi era, and again many Germans would come to view that time period as a bad time in German history, although many others will never view their actions as wrong, and will never have any remorse for what happened during that time period. The same is true for the American McCarthyism, and Cointelpro periods, yet at the time while these events were happening, had you tried to speak out against them, you would again have been in the minority, or even been called a sympathizer.

What history has shown me is that during those time periods, people often collectively believe in the rightness of those actions. Those who disagree, or speakout due to conscience often share the same fate as those they try to help, but for some it’s the only choice. This was apparent during the internment of the Japanese, and recently with the deportation of thousands upon thousands of middle eastern Americans and their children, with 9/11 terrorism as the justification. It’s a continuous cycle that each generation goes through. Each must once again learn and reflect on the lessons from the past. Each must make the same mistakes, come to the same consensus, and then take corrective actions. This type of consensus usually takes years, and depending on how deep the scare on the human psyche was it can even take decades to heal, or for that truth to come to light. During those dark periods, unspeakable acts often occur, at the time the society often feel that these actions are justified, and are what they need to do to protect themselves. They gladly sacrifice freedom for a false sense of security and are willing to do the same or worst to others. From the inside this seems very sane very rational, when viewed from the outside this collective insanity is often viewed quite differently, but it is what it is.

Change is often a very slow and painful process, what has to happen when a society has been deeply conditioned is that the elements in that society that were conditioned have to  become irrelevant and a new generation with a different mentality has to take it’s place. Some societies can change in mid stream, this did happen to a degree in South Africa, with Apartheid and the attitudes that perpetuated it, but again change if often very slow, and can take years.

With Gang Stalking, I am trying to streamline the process as much as possible. Concepts such as mobbing and bullying, took a decade or more to finally become implanted in society. Where talking about mobbing was seen as a fringe subject, it’s now mainstream. Where targets of mobbing were thought to be mentally having a breakdown or ill, it’s now commonly recognized that this practice is wrong, and the targets are even winning lawsuits in courts of law. Exposure and awareness is happening for Gang Stalking as well, but it’s still remains a very slow process. Unlike the other forms of systemic harassment, this form of harassment has the seal of approval from the state, and thus getting this exposed within society is going to be a much more involved process. There are legal aspects to consider, some people may want to speak out, but might feel socially as well as legally pressured not to. This has to change. The same sorts of unacceptable outcomes are happening to targets of Gang Stalking that happen to targets of bullying, mobbing. The process is working much like the Stasi system did in Germany or the Cointelpro system did in America and that is unacceptable.

I believe that change happens when people are ready for that change to happen, when they have had enough and they say enough is enough. When they storm the Bastille in France, or the German Parliament and take down the wall. I know in Germany this process took 40 years or more for people to finally reclaim what was theirs and to this day, the scares of that time period remain.  Chance can be slow and painful, especially when it’s something that is systemic and something that is ingrained in each generation. Truth can come to light however, it did with the exposure of the abuses that were happening within the Catholic Church. After years of silence, truth finally came to light, but at the sacrifice of the victims and so many of their supporters. 20 years ago, suggesting a priest had committed such an offence, would likely have resulted in being annexed from society, now today it’s common knowledge that such does happen, and it’s openly discussed. Part of the conspiracy of silence has been exposed. The same can happen with Gang Stalking and this system, but people have to want it to.

The information is there, the truth is out there, you can point to it, discuss it, link to it, but what I can’t do for you is make you free to use it. You have to want that in your own time period. You have to want that freedom, and do something to earn it. People are just not as willing today as they were 40 to 50 years ago. We are as usual happy to have others go to war for freedoms. Most are willing to have others sacrifice, so that they can stay free. Many talk a good talk, but never follow it through with any actions. Many have tried to point the way to freedom, and fallen by the wayside for their efforts. As long as the slavery and the chains that bind are more comfortable, or seem more secure than the need to fight for freedom, and to expose the system that is binding, then this system will remain. As long as people are just comfortable enough, then all efforts will be in vain, and that is not fair, and that is not right. I think there is a point where you do what you can for others, but at some point those people that you are fighting for have to do something for themselves. Freedom is a choice, even if it’s just in your mind.

This is the way that it’s always been done, and thus it continues, but if for some reason, the way things have been done, no longer works, then I encourage you to think about making a change. Small changes here and there, but take some ownership, some responsibility, be an agent of the change that you want. Till then I grow tied of hearing about outside elements that are keeping others enslaved. Do I think other factors exist, yes, but I think one of the biggest factors are the people at ground level, and their willingness to go along with what is happening. Till it get’s uncomfortable enough, people will not change. I find that the groups most willing to accept these ideas and to discuss them, are the groups at the farthest fringes of society. Maybe it’s because these groups that are excluded from society, or not considered to be mainstream, have felt the chains of oppression a little more than others? Will change only then happen when others feel the same levels of oppression? Is this just a continuous cycle that human society goes through in every time period? Is this just something that each generation must continually relearn, or can they see the truth, before the final chain of oppression closes in? I don’t have the answer to these questions. History can teach a lot, but I have to believe that each time period has to answer for it’s own unique actions. Has to be accountable for it’s own choices and decisions. History can guide, and be a great teacher, but only if people are willing to learn those lessons, or appreciate what has gone before.

Till then there is hope. Hope that society will wake up, take a look at it’s actions, the system that it’s a part of and decide if it’s time for change, or decide that that system is really working, and that they want it to continue. In effect, change can happen, but only if you want it to happen, when the time is right for that change to happen. When the whisper of one, becomes the scream of many. Till then there will just be this void, this silence, knowing that something is terribly wrong with this system, but being willing to do little about it. Till then I remain prayerful and hopeful, but I am also a realist, and I do know what human history is like.

May 14, 2010 Posted by | activism, Awareness, Citizen Informants, Conspiracy, control, Controlled society, Gang Stalking | , , , , , , , , , , | Leave a comment

Gang Stalking Initiatives

A poster wrote in to clarify my opinion as to why I distance myself from some Gang Stalking initiavites. He asked me specifically about Ms. White and here is my response.

Ms White does several things that I am personally not in accord with.

She focuses on the Stalking aspect of Gang Stalking. Nothing wrong with that, but the few times I have come across her initiatives she has focused on linking this primarily to stalking and changing those laws. Nothing wrong with that, but I don’t believe this will change what is happening to Gang Stalking targets. Changing stalking laws will not change community notifications if that is what we are looking at. You have to name it if you are going to claim it.

I have always focused on the mobbing aspect of this harassment and focusing on the stalking aspect in my opinion is going to be less effective. I have from the start believed that mobbing and the way mobbing targets emotionally act out, best corrolates to the Gang Stalking movement.

Ms White has often criticized websites as bad sites, poison sites, etc, for linking the Gang Stalking harassment to government and state initiatives. That fine, yet other sites seem to get a pass for doing the same thing, and she manages to keep them off her credibility review websites. Ms White has continued to advocate Terrorist Stalking in America, a book that links Gang Stalking first to Stalking crews then to terrorists. She is always asking for proof, when someone mentions the government, yet never has the same issue with openly advocating something that even in her words has a wrong conclusion. She should be also screaming for proof on the Terrorist Stalking book but fails to. This seems to be a double standard that she has. I would love to see the book on her credibility review site, which I feel she covertly uses to attack others, under the guise of these reviews, but she is allowed to do what she wants to.

Ms White in my opinion often leads targets in directions that I do not often agree with. I think her site has loads of useful and valuable information, but when new targets come online, I just need it to be very clear that I am not affiliated with many of her initiatives. All too often they think that all sites share the same opinions and we often do not. In distancing myself from her initiatives, I hope to move targets in more useful directions. Get them more streamlined with things that might help them.

I have been on Eleanor’s forum, things always seem to move forward, but nothing ever seems to actually get done, but she conducts them very professionally. I just feel that we often disagree in various ways and I just like that to be made clear.

The FFCHS site is currently working with John Hall and a politician on laws that I don’t think will fix the problems in the Gang Stalking community. John Hall if focusing on Satalights, which is fine, but to get to the heart of the problem, I think the local initiatives like community notifications need to be addressed. They are getting good press and it feels like things are happening, like things are going forward, but like the time they got targets to write in with information about a multiple lawsuit, I don’t think this will work any better. Thus I don’t want targets linking the two, and thinking that we all share the same ideas. Thus even when laws get passed the angle that is being taken I don’t feel will move things along the way that they need to go, in the direction that they need to go in. That is why I personally have chosen to distance myself from the direction that those initiatives have moved in.

I also had a discussion with a lawyer, who blasted all the Gang Stalking sites, and I asked why? It was because he had a disagreement with FFCHS and possibly Eleanor and thus he wrote off all the Gang Stalking sites. This really opened my eyes, and I didn’t think that was fair. So thus now, it’s made very clear that not all Gang Stalking sites share the same views. Thus if I do an initiative that they don’t agree with, they are not linked and visa versa.

I also have distanced myself from a poster who suggests that targets write a wild Freedom Of Information Act request. I do agree and fully support Freedom Of Information Act requests. I don’t support what was being suggested. Everytime certain fractions and their so called authority are challenged, character assassinations begin by their members, and those affiliated with those movements, they have a consistent habit of doing so, and thus one more reason I often choose to disassociate. Very simple really.

Lastly those fractions prefer to call this Organized Stalking, and sometime ago, I had to really fight to keep the term Gang Stalking after Eleanor decided that Organized Stalking was the term to use. She tried to have the term annexed after four years of really hard work to get the term popularized, in favor of a term most that is not as popular and would have set the movement back. Again at that time, I had to have unneeded character assassinations from some of their members, website attacks, which always happens when openly disagreeing with them. So now I am just very clear about which direction I am going in and which direction they are going in.

Some see this distancing as attacks on those sites, but it’s really just to ensure my initiatives do not affect them, and visa versa.

I hope this answers your question.

April 30, 2010 Posted by | Citizen Informants, community mobbing, Conspiracy, control, Controlled society, Cults, Electronic harassment, Entrapment, Gang Stalking, harassment, society, Stalking, Targeted Individual | , , , , , , , , , , , , , | 2 Comments

What on earth did I get myself into?

It all depends on who you ask, and how you interpret the situation. Sometimes the answer is blowing in the wind.

I had such a moment a few weeks ago on some level, and at first my only thought was how do I untangle myself, but the more I watched and waited for the punchline, the punchline never came. Where I was on some level was surprisingly where I was meant to be. It really started to work for me, and much to my complete surprise, really lifted my spirits.

Now upon realising that I was in a good place, the usual control agents have done just about everything to try to change or destroy that.

This week has been a challenge, but I am trying to find that peace and happy I knew just a few short weeks ago.

I find that when you are in the right place, you can not let specific negative elements allow you to be brought low.

I think the question of what on earth did I get myself into at times has to be answered in spirit for truth, but in flesh for accuracy, cause otherwise it’s just too easy to get the lines of communications mixed up, or cluttered with a lot of inaccurate information.

I think targets ask this question a lot, but much like the disinformation that is out there about us, some information can only be clarified by going to or getting at the source.

http://www.1brickcourt.com/files/cases/140CLIFT_58136.pdf

March 28, 2010 Posted by | Gang Stalking | , , , , , , , , , | 1 Comment

Not a truther

9/11 Truth.

Many people say that they want 9/11 truth, but I think the truth is that many people can not truly handle 9/11 truth.

I don’t consider myself a truther in the traditional sense. I do believe much like Operation Northwoods that 9/11 was planned and carried out by internal forces. That’s where it ends for me. If people want to believe it, good for them, if not good for them. I do not need or care if people believe the truth, cause quite frankly I don’t believe most people can truly handle the truth.

I support 9/11 truthers. I wish them the best, if they find any new evidence, then I try to post it, but this is not a real issue for me, and in that sense I don’t consider myself a truther.

I do consider real truthers to be brave, I share and understand the frustration of trying to uncover a conspiracy of vast portions. Trying to prove that people are being placed under investigations, on lists, and followed by informants has been no easy task these last four years.

I think 9/11 truthers are brave. I have heard about the questionable deaths, about 23 year olds dying of heart attacks. They have a very challenging road, and I don’t envy them their cause. I believe people being Gang Stalked, meaning followed around by informants and placed under investigations, gaslighted, and on lists will be proven. 9/11 I am not so sure about.

For 9/11 to be proven I very much believe that the momentum must keep going. This week the truthers are being tested. People are trying to link them to holocaust denial, they did this with climate skeptics as well. They are trying to link them as a dangerous conspiracy, anyone believing in it needs to be watched and on and on it goes. If anything however the shooting this week near the pentagon, just shows the need to have the investigation re-opened. It shows that people still have many unanswered questions, and that by mocking them, turning them into terrorist, and stifling their unanswered questions, you do them and society no good. It just goes to show that this issue is not going away. People want truth on this topic. To settle for anything less is deeply disrespectful to the dead and those dying from 9/11 complications. To heal the psyche of the American Nation, the truth must be uncovered, but when and if it is, can and will you be ready to handle the truth?

Before you can have the truth, you must be prepared to deal with all the consequences that truth can bring. For me I knew that there was something happening. I realised I was being followed while out in public. I tested and verified that I was under surveillance. I knew the people around me were involved, and not telling me the truth. I was left out of something vital, and it was horrifying emotionally. It came to the stage where not knowing the truth, was worst than knowing the truth. I prayed and surrendered myself to a higher power, and just said that I needed the truth, and no matter what it was, I could accept it.  I had to get myself into that state of readiness first, or else, I don’t believe the truth would have come, and it would have been more years of knowing something was going on, and not knowing what.

To have truth, you must be in a state where you can handle truth. Is America ready for this? Many think they are, I disagree. Think about the real consequences, and ask yourself again if you can handle the truth.

Can you accept that Democratic countries went to two wars, based on lies?

Killed over a million Iraqi’s?

Raped and murdered woman and children?

That your own citizens were killed in a government plot to go to war, just like Operation Northwoods, but 40-50 years later.

Are you really ready to handle the betrayal?

Are you truly ready for the emotional pain that would cause? I mean really raw emotional pain?

Are you ready for how that would change your view of yourselves as hero’s of the world to villains?

Are you ready for all the consequences that have come due to 9/11. The prison/concentration camps of innocent men and woman, who did nothing to America?

The solders raped, the ones who died for nothing, who committed suicide fighting an unjust war?

Do you honestly think you are ready for all that? I don’t think you are. I don’t think you can handle the truth, and thus why I don’t consider myself a truther. I believe that the above is the truth, but I leave it to braver men and women than myself to try to convince you of such.

I don’t care if you ever come to believe the truth, I don’t think you can handle it, I don’t want to see the emotional pain it would cause you. I have been there myself in discovering the truth about what governments are capable of, and it takes years to come to the point of acceptance. This does not happen overnight.

Americans think so well of themselves, see themselves as patriotic, proud. Could you really handle the truth of that, if the truth was that your government, your parent figure did something so bad, to your fellow brothers, sisters, countrymen? I don’t think so.

I think Americans are good people, they want to believe the best about the government, that it will protect them and look after them. I don’t think they are gullible, yet I see them getting played, the way Hal Turner played people, time and time again.

With all my heart and I am being as honest as I can be. I don’t think you can handle the truth. I don’t think anyone who knows the truth about 9/11 has any real incentive to come forward. You don’t generally protect whistle-blowers, and there is hardly a person on earth who could truly protect a real 9/11 whistle-blower.

Just like people lie and keep quite about the informant network used to follow Targeted Individuals around, I don’t see any need for 9/11 whistle-blowers to do anything less to protect themselves.

That’s why I don’t consider myself a truther, but I do believe that 9/11 was deliberate, but I just don’t care if others can handle the truth, just as long as I can. Sometimes personal truth is as good as it gets.

Maybe someday in some far away land, the psyche of the American people will be far enough removed that they will see and understand that the actions of their governments, is not, I repeat not something that they are, or were responsible for. Maybe then truth  of this horrible time that has past, can finally come to light, but until then I don’t think that you can handle the truth.

So feel free to jump on this post, at a time when others are hiding in the sand, I still say, you did it. I don’t care if anyone else believes, or knows the truth, personal truth on this one will suffice for me. That is why I don’t consider myself a truther.

March 7, 2010 Posted by | 9/11, Abu Ghraib, Conspiracy, Gang Stalking, government corruption | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | 1 Comment

Stop shooting messengers and face the truth

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article6952298.ece

[quote]December 11, 2009

Stop shooting messengers and face the truth
Sometimes knowledge is uncomfortable. But it is the mark of a civilised society that we do not sweep it under the carpet

In 413BC a traveller sat down in a barber’s shop in Piraeus, the Athenian port, and readied himself for a shave. He commiserated with the locals for the loss of their recent military expedition to Syracuse. The horror dawned; the traveller was first with the news. The barber flung down his tools and ran to the city, crying the news. His reward? The Athenians refused to believe that their navy had been destroyed, that their sons and brothers were dead or working as slaves in Sicilian mines. As Plutarch tells us, the barber was “fastened to the wheel and racked”.

This is how we so often treat those who tell us the truth we do not want to hear. History is littered with examples of messengers being shot, tortured and pilloried, literally and metaphorically.

To quote Sophocles’ Antigone: “No one loves the messenger who brings bad news.” To misquote Corporal Jones: “We don’t like it up us.”

We assume that we are different from our forefathers; more tolerant and more willing to allow uncomfortable truths to be aired. We have a liberal democracy and we congratulate ourselves on a commitment to freedom of speech. Yet when the truth sits uncomfortably with our notions of what is right, when it clashes with our dearly held notions of tolerance, we are as squeamish as any of our ancestors. Few are as intolerant as the self-consciously tolerant.[/quote]

The article above is about crime in the U.K. but it could just as easily been about trying to get the truth out about Gang Stalking and the fact that people in most time periods do not like people who tell them the truth, or who preach something that goes against their orthodoxy. What I am learning about this time period is that it is no better, in fact it’s worst, because unlike other times, we have so much wonderful and rich history to fall back on, and yet in many ways we are just as ignorant.

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This is how we so often treat those who tell us the truth we do not want to hear. History is littered with examples of messengers being shot, tortured and pilloried, literally and metaphorically.

To quote Sophocles’ Antigone: “No one loves the messenger who brings bad news.” To misquote Corporal Jones: “We don’t like it up us.”
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Sorry if the message is not what you want to hear, truth is a bitter pill to swallow at times. For me I loved my country, I thought I lived in the best place on earth (literally). It took me a really long time of grappling with the betrayal I felt to come to the semi-full realization of some truth. I don’t think I have the full truth, I am not sure I could handle the full truth just yet, but I have tried to educate myself on some of the recent history, the stuff that the text book does not tell you, some of the not so hidden conspiracy, and it’s one shock to the system after another.

Sometimes I get angry with people for being so stupid and gullible, for believing the best, but I was right there a few short years ago, and without my targeting, it would have taken me a very long time to believe anything bad about my country, or my fellow citizens. I always thought of us as the good guys, that we would never ever do what was done in East Germany or other places. I was so naive, so desperately wrong, luckily for me truth is easier to swallow when you have the burn marks, bruises, and psychological torture to show for it. Without this, I might still be trying to believe that my country was not doing anything bad. I might not have taken the time to research like I have, but I have now done this, and I have no intention of going back.

I don’t hate my fellow citizens, I feel sorry for them, many of them likely think that they are doing something good, trying to be good citizens like I was taught to be, but I am lucky, I have seen the dark side and I know enough history to know that what is being done is wrong. Most importantly as a target, I have seen, experienced and read about cruelty like none other, and I am quite comfortable with how I feel.

I know for some this is hard to comprehend, some really are just there to try to make the society better, but if killing the innocent is how you are going to make the society better, you are wrong. I know many don’t see it this way, the 15 to 30 minutes that they give seems like nothing and they might not see how their small roles could destroy lives, so with every story, revelation targets have tried to show you this. We have been trying to say, hey look we are innocent, in many cases good people, and something is wrong within the society cause it’s destroying our lives. Many of us naively thought that this would be enough, but we were proven wrong time and again, and worst many started to realize the long term goal of this targeting is our destruction, how could you expect us to be ok with it?

Did you think this was Stalinist Russia? Did you think that we would agree that we were bad because the state said so? The state who does some of the most hypocritical, terroristic things? Not going to happen. Most of us are good people, we do not deserve this, and we are saying that a system that would destroy us, is a broken and corrupted system. I get that some do not see it that way, but I am sorry for you, because we see it, live it and feel it on a daily basis and it does destroy lives.

In trying to expose this, we are just doing what past targets have done, would you honestly expect anything less? Don’t get upset if you have a harder time destroying our lives, it’s not our jobs to make it easier for you to do so, and how silly would you have to be to think so?

The goal of these sites is to support each other, document the stories of targets, and to highlight the sad truth, which is that our countries are becoming a nation of informants, but also to show what has happened to other societies where this was allowed to happen. The saddest part I find in researching is that when these times are happening, people always feel justified, they believe the lies, and they become so brain washed that they can not see past the lies, they have to believe the lies. They tell themseles I was just following orders. I did it cause an authority figure told me to. Anything else would mean confronting the evils of their actions, the drunken power that corrupts consistently in every time period. The comradely in these times of evil that oppressors invariably feel towards one another.

History can teach a great deal, but it’s words and facts, it is not hearts and minds, only by reaching hearts and minds can we hope to change things for the better and ensure a brighter future for ourselves and others. Believe it or not, we are not just fighting for ourselves, our main survival is key to be sure, but targets are also invariably fighting for others so that they do not have to go through and experience this horrible betrayal by the state.

I don’t know what else can be said, there are some really wrong and horrific things happening, to not draw attention to that would be neglectful at best, but it would also be a betrayal in another way. I have more incentive ofcourse, but it’s no less imperative for others to awaken to what is happening.

Also I tend to go on about us and them, us targets, those informants, but many many informants are or were targets who are broken, made to co-operate, forced, others who just gave in, and or others who were brought up this way and don’t understand the big deal. Many don’t do anything bad as far as they are aware. I don’t mean to keep separating everything, it’s really all one humanity, but as a target it’s so easy if you have a target to say, they, those are the ones doing this, at times it’s easy to forget that many of them suffered also, are suffering. I am sorry for that, but I do have my good days and bad days like everyone else.
Anyways I don’t know what else there is to say.

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We assume that we are different from our forefathers; more tolerant and more willing to allow uncomfortable truths to be aired. We have a liberal democracy and we congratulate ourselves on a commitment to freedom of speech. Yet when the truth sits uncomfortably with our notions of what is right, when it clashes with our dearly held notions of tolerance, we are as squeamish as any of our ancestors. Few are as intolerant as the self-consciously tolerant.

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Uncomfortable truths are not fun, I have come across so many, some posted, some just hard to take, but I have consistently adjusted my comfort level cause I would rather truth than lies. I know not everyone is the same, many are happy with lies, and half truths, or flat out denial, they can not handle the fact that there could be anything bad about the society. They would silence anyone who would say otherwise, but that’s just not acceptable, because it must be said, and some of us are at the convenient place of saying it. When I say convenient, I don’t mean easy, but it’s something that needs to be done. No one is trying to make anyone feel bad, or ashamed, but I don’t know how to make people feel good when the sad truth is that their actions might be helping to kill and harm innocent people. I can just point out the facts and hope that societies conscience will have enough left to do the rest. Oh and pray.

December 14, 2009 Posted by | Awareness, Citizen Informants, Conformity, East Germany, Gang Stalking, Ignorance, Informants, psychological harassment, Targeted Individual | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | 3 Comments

Too much Truth

http://forum.infjs.com/forums.php

So I was on the INFJ’s Forum. Found it on Google, but it was a live forum, where a Gang Stalking target was being ridiculed.

The thread started with a poster who wanted to talk about her Gang Stalking. She was mercilessly being teased and called crazy by the other posters.

She was busy trying to convince them that she was not crazy. It was not working and so finally I registered an account. I wanted to see what would happen, in some cases I am able to be of assistance. In others not.

I posted three information filled threads, which were enough to be able to rebuff the assertions that the posters in the thread had been making about her being crazy.

They had been calling her crazy, saying that the government would not stalk her and so forth.

The discussion started to go in favour of the fact that Gang Stalking is real and so they decided to delete the thread and ban my account, using the accusation that I was posting propaganda or something like that?

It’s really funny. I have not had accounts banned in this manner in some time. I keep forgetting however that light still has to shine onto these types of forums. The civil rights movement comes to mind. It might not be attack dogs, and fire hose, but it’s the same type of resistance, to seeing this brought out into the open.

Now if the problem really was that I was posting links, which I did, but they could have simply removed my posts, instead they deleted the whole thread, and banned the account, when clearly I was being a part of the discussion in a peaceful manner. This is what use to happen, and until Targets visit and enlighten these types of forums, it is what will continue to happen.

So in honour of Indigo Ribbon month, here is an example of what we are still against as targets.

Here is some of that discussion. Click on the links to see some of the threads, before they were deleted.

Toomuchtruth

 

http://gangstalkingunited.com/Toomuchtruth2.html
http://gangstalkingunited.com/Toomuchtruth1.html
http://gangstalkingunited.com/Toomuchtruth.html

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I would say the probability is that…

1. You authentically believe that the government is after you with little evidence to support the assertion. This belief may or may not be indicative of a mental illness and only a mental health professional could ascertain such.
2. You are some person with way too much time on their hands who likes to go to forums and garner attention by making audacious claims about the government being after you.
3. You are a troll with really weak trolling abilities.

Which option sounds most plausible?
With programs such as Cointelpro being quite real, and most likely quite ongoing.

With things such as the violent persons registry, being a fact.

With the three threads of fully credible info that have just been posted.

With the former East Germany of living proof that this can happen in a society, why are those three choices the only choices being presented?

Maybe you are a

A) A Troll
B) Not very well read on the subject matter
C) Maybe you suffer from Gang Stalking Denial Syndrome and then need to ask yourself why you find it so hard to believe that this could be happening to someone.

Unlike what you are giving to this other poster, I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and go with option B) Not very well read on the subject matter, and then I suggest you read up on the topic, do some research before you go and judge this other poster.
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http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin…ang%20stalking

Gangstalking. Stop harassing her. Now.

Cute, I am familiar with the Urban Dictionary definitions.

Here are some Amazon Books that you can read up on the subject.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?ur…alking&x=0&y=0

It’s also Indigo Ribbon Month. Shame on you making fun of a Targeted Individual during Indigo Ribbon Month.

http://www.IndigoRibbon.com

http://www.IndigoRibbon.com/Quilt
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I just checked, they didn’t just ban my account, they banned that girl’s account as well. Now if the dispute was with me, why ban her account? I guess the dispute was really with the subject matter and the fact that you would not be left to pick on her as a group. This is what targets are constantly against. I am sure some in that thread were decent, but some were taunting her and she was trying to get a legit point across, and as long as they could make her look crazy it was all fun and games, but once that was not an option, then it was another story.

This is what targets are up against in real life and online. My deepest and sincerest apologies to the original poster of that thread. I watched them bully you, and sought to help. I never sought to have your account banned, or mine for that matter. Some days it’s one step forward two steps back.

I think that little informants think it’s three years ago when our threads could just silently be deleted and we would just go running for the hills.

It’s a different day, and we have made progress. It’s Indigo Ribbon Month. We have books, websites, and a presence in this place and we as Targeted Individuals will not be silenced. I can only hope the time will come when people frown upon your actions towards us, the way they do upon those who try to stop truth.

I never did figure out what that forum was about, but if it’s so narrow that it can’t handle the truth about Gang Stalking, it’s probably not worth finding out. Here is one more option.

Some of you are just narrow minded, you don’t like the truth, and you like to pick on those who are telling the truth. When confronted in a fair fight, you would rather delete and ban your adversaries than fight fair. You are cowards in the truest sense of the word and are dully representative of the other Informants that some of you likely represent. How is that for another option.

November 10, 2009 Posted by | Gang Stalking | , , , , , , , , , | 9 Comments