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Conspiracy Theories

https://gangstalking.wordpress.com/2009/04/06/follow-ups/
Ok so after writing the above post, I was doing some follow up’s on the killing sprees that have been happening, trying to track anything as to what is behind them, agenda’s etc, I found an article about one of the killing sprees that I have been tracking. “No I have absolutely no fascination with killing sprees whatsoever,” but I have been tracking them, because I had a hunch they would be increasing around this time, and a need to track what is behind them.

Anyways, I just found out that the most recent one with police officers, was a member of stormfront. Apparently he posted once, but that was enough to link him to the site, see how that works?
Anyways here are my thoughts on this, I was going to do two separate posts, and I am not sure that I shouldn’t. Ok looks like I am doing two separate posts.

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Pittsburgh_shooter_was_fan_of_rightwing_0405.html

[quote]The Post-Gazette also mentions the website PrisonPlanet, run by radio talk show host Alex Jones, as a source for some of the stories which Poplawski found disturbing. 
 
For example, last fall, that site ran an article, “U.S. Troops In Homeland ‘Crowd Control’ Patrols From October 1st,” which claimed that “U.S. troops returning from duty in Iraq will be carrying out homeland patrols in America from October 1st in complete violation of Posse Comitatus for the purposes of helping with ‘civil unrest and crowd control’ – which could include dealing with unruly Americans after a complete economic collapse.”
 
However, the worldview which enabled Poplawski to bring those various complaints together into a single, global conspiracy theory appears to have come from far more extreme sources. Poplawski had also posted pictures of himself at Stormfront, a white supremacist website whose slogan is “white pride worldwide.” 
 
The discussion of the shootings at Stormfront, which began with speculations that the gunman would turn out to be “some non-white” or “a jew,” then turned to suspicions that the recent rash of shootings is a “setup” to push through gun control legislation, has become oddly muted since the revelation that Poplawski appears to be one of theirs. 
 
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I remember when the Montreal shooting happened and they used it to try to paint the goth community as evil and vampirefreaks as a site where these types of people regularly come from, ignoring the fact Kimveer Gill was a part of myspace was it? Anyways the goth community banned together, worked to tone down anything that would paint them in a negative light and they survived. They also had thousands of new sign up’s in a matter of days, and there is no way to tell how many were informants, that are now a regular part of that community, keeping an eye and ear on it.

Anyways they survived in one sense, but they did have the spotlight pointed at them for some time.

Back to the shooting, I don’t have enough details, but here are some of my thought.

Remember when those articles came out last year in the New York Times and ABC.com about Gang Stalking and I said that it looked like we would in the future get some kind of armed standoff with the police, maybe a shootout and the person would likely belong to a conspiracy site, well I think this might be it. I thought the guy arrested for uttering Obama threats might have been it, but that always seemed too light. Here is a link to my original post about that.
https://gangstalking.wordpress.com/2009/01/18/man-arrested-for-obama-threat/

See at the time I thought the Stevie threat might have been it, but that seemed too mild to get laws passed. I was expecting something either a staged, where b where a legit conspiracy theorist was put into a situation of conflict the way they bait targets. See my quote below.

[quote]
We were all or should have been waiting for an incident like this to happen, something to paint some member of the conspiracy community as crazy. I was personally expecting some kind of armed stand off, [/quote]

The guy who shoot 3 police officers, belonged to what most would consider to be an extremist website, and he was a conspiracy theorist, see kill two birds with one stone. I am not saying it was staged, but I have been looking out for something coming up, and this might be it.

Here is the story tell me what you think? Is this the one that will get the laws passed that will affect conspiracy sites, and extreme websites?

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Pittsburgh_shooter_was_fan_of_rightwing_0405.html

[quote]The unemployed twenty-two year old man who killed three Pittsburgh police officers and wounded two others in a four-hour shootout on Saturday morning had been heavily influenced by extremist conspiracy theories prior to the incident. [/quote]
This is the sort of thing that can paint conspiracy sites as extreme dangerous, mind you that conspiracy theories have been around for year, from aliens and secret government cover up’s etc, but these conspiracy sites such as ATS and others might be painted in a new light. Anything that paints the government in an unflattering light would be prime targets.

I am not surprised by this, but what I would be watching for, and others should be watching for are laws, what will be the fallout, this should be a priority for conspiracy sites, and extremist sites.

Again please remember that the articles last year did everything in their power to paint Gang Stalking sites as either extreme communities or conspiracy websites, both labels were wrong, but what does truth matter when an agenda is at stake? Now we come full circle, and we have someone from an extremist website, who believed in conspiracies, let’s the witch hunts begin. Oh wait they already have.

April 6, 2009 Posted by | Gang Stalking | , , , , , , , , , , , , , | 1 Comment

Follow Up’s

http://stormfront.org/forum/search.php?searchid=6763662

I was doing some more follow up on the Gang Stalking threads, I checked on the thread over at Stormfront. It’s an interesting thread. I keep track of several threads across the net. I was seeing who was still a part of the thread, if anyone had been banned, out of the targets, and if any new elements had introduced themselves. Is there an effort to introduce the term organized stalking to the community or to influence the thread?

It’s been one of the more interesting threads around. There seems to be a couple of people who are no longer a part of the forum, although I am not sure the reason they were banned, well I am not sure of the reason one was banned.

There is a new element that seems to have joined the forum for the express purpose of joining this thread, and the postings are pretty specific, it’s what I look for.

See it’s important to understand trends, and pay attention to things that are happening, again we have agenda’s being played out, and people do have to realise this, it affects every aspect of society.

I am also hoping that Pipers friend is out of the mental ward, but I am not holding my breath. No I don’t know these people personally, anymore than I know any others, but I worry about legit targets and their plights.

Paying attention to various threads, trends, gives me an idea of where we are, what’s happening to legit targets, what the other side is up to, and it helps me to try to understand what can be done if anything. I do believe something can be done, i have to believe that, but what do you do when you wake up and find yourself in a nightmare? Maybe nightmare is too strong a word, but what do you do, when you wake up and the world is not what you thought it was, how can you affect change for the better?

How can you get others to wake up? You can’t each must come to their own realisation in time. What you can do is you can provide as much legit information as possible about what is happening, and hope that they will wake up, but this is not an easy truth. Most people want to believe it’s not that bad, they want to believe that the government is going to save them, and that this system is just a few bad elements. People have to come to their understanding of this in their own time, and in their own way.

In the mean time you have to find ways to helps yourself, and then try to help others the best you can. I do believe knowledge is power, and having knowledge can help, but then what do you do? Try to find a way.

April 6, 2009 Posted by | Gang Stalking | , , , , , , | 1 Comment

One of those days

I was up early and I realise it’s going to be one of those days, trying to figure out what to do? How to help? What can be done for Targets of Gang Stalking?
I have so many things to blog about. Eg. Our algorithm is being suppressed, meaning that when you look up Gang Stalking  or Targeted Individuals in the google search engine or at least when I do, you don’t get very diminished results. The same trend just started happening for the terms Targeted Individuals and Targeted Individual, both terms were previously almost 2 million hits.

Also I read this amazing report by the ACLU, and I want to write more information about that. If you get the chance, read this report, it’s a fascinating read for anyone who cares about what is happening with surveillance and information sharing in their country. http://www.aclu.org/FilesPDFs/surveillance_report.pdf

Outreach and other communities we should be trying to connect with. I think it’s great that people make their existing online communities aware of what is happening, use the available materials and post it if you don’t know how to have discussions about Gang Stalking.

What to do for the missing and incarcerated targets? Little things like that. Even though we now know that we are not alone, too often, we still have our own struggles to go through.

I had been following a thread over at the Stormfront community, because Gang Stalking affects everyone, black, white, Asian, Indian, etc. Male, female, transgender, etc. Every social economic background you can think of. Anyways, a member of that community had reported some time last year that his friend was a target of Gang Stalking, he believed his friend, which is commendable, but on the most recent follow up thread, he posted to say that his friend had been institutionalised.

It’s really sad, because it does not matter what your view points are, (well it does to an extent), but the truth is every voice silenced, every soul that they muzzle in regards to this, brings the state one step closer to imprisoning us all. For those not familiar with the Stormfront community, it’s a white nationalist community. (So if you are easily offended, don’t go there.)

The latest thread was brought up by a person who thought that Masons were behind the whole thing. There is still a lot of that going around, like taking the blame from the government and trying to put in on one group, like Masons, Street Gangs, KKK or scientologist, etc. They are all taking part, so you can’t just blame one sector of society, it’s all of society. (By this I don’t mean that everyone is involved, I just mean that all sectors of society take part, there is a difference.)

Anyways it’s an interesting thread, and it tells me once again that just about every sector of society is in some way being exposed to what is happening. It tells me that some targets are very aware and some are not. It also tells me that targets are still being picked off one by one so to speak, and using the mental health rap is probably working really well. Targets need to have a plan of action.

http://stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=547115

The poster who was known as theninthtrust, who was very active on YouTube, is still missing or has not been online for the last seven months. http://uk.youtube.com/theninthtrust

I have not had any postings from apocalypto wanderings since June, He was a retired gentleman, with a tough attitude, use to work for the government. Maybe he is just taking a break from it, sometimes targets need to do that. http://apocalypto-wanderings.blogspot.com
Somethings that we are doing are working really well, keep having the discussions, keep making people aware, keep using the materials.

Things that we need. What we need are people who are familiar with mental health laws, and how the informant system works. These are two ways targets are either eliminated, (meaning trapped in the system or turned into part of the system.)

Emotionally we have been shown to be fairly good at providing information and emotional support for one another, so let’s continue of this front.

Freedom of information. If an investigation is ongoing normally you might not get these files, or if the information is in a secret database, or if they have outsourced the surveillance, these are ways that they get around giving out targets this information. Jesus Medoza has had some luck with his, JBH had to try three times before getting anything, the first two times they told him they had nothing on him. Donald Friedman, he kinda went to extreme lengths to get his files, but it worked.
http://www.freedomfchs.com/usarmyrptonmicrowavefx.pdf

These are some of the things that I want to blog about, but it’s already been a long morning, and
I just want to see what we are doing well as a community and what we need to improve upon.

December 1, 2008 Posted by | activism, Awareness, Cointelpro, crazy, discrimination, dissident, driving-crazy, Entrapment, Gang Stalking, Gangstalking, google, harassment, Isolation, Laws, male, Masons, society, Targeted Individual, White | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | 1 Comment