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Jane Clift Case Highlights

Jane Clift Case Highlights

This case is great. She was placed on a list. She used the Data Protection Act and Human Rights Act to sue and win her case.

6# The words complained of contain personal information relating to Ms Clift. That is data which is subject to the Data Protection Act 1998 (“DPA”). This Act implemented in English law some of the rights recognised by Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights (“the Convention”). Later those rights were more fully incorporated into English law by the Human Rights Act 1998 (“HRA”). The Council is a public authority. HRA s.6 (1) provides:

“It is unlawful for a public authority to act in a way which is incompatible with a Convention Right”.

Physical Contact. This is an area that some targets might be able to build a case on, in regards to who was given access to their data.

Data Protection Act. Human Rights Act. These are the two acts that she was able to use to file her case.

8# The question in this case is whether, and if so how, the Council must demonstrate that it has complied with its public law duties under HRA (and incidentally DPA) if it is to be able to assert that it has the interest or duty required at common law for there to be a defence of qualified privilege.

This is what the case came down to. The same would likely be true for the Acts in other countries.

EVENTS LEADING TO THIS ACTION

9# As a responsible employer the Council has a policy to protect its employees from violence at work. The policy is set out in a document headed “Safe System of Work (Codes of Practice) H&NS/COP/1.14 Version 1.0 date issued 11/3/03 Violence at Work (Inc Potentially Violent Persons)” (“the Policy”).

This also fell under Violence at Work

15# Mr Kelleher then conducted a number of other interviews. One was with Mr Gulfraz, a friend of Ms Clift. She was accustomed to helping him in making telephone calls and filling out official forms. She was at the time also helping him in a complaint he was making against the Council on a housing matter. He was present at the time Ms Clift made her call to Ms Rashid on 11 August. He heard the whole conversation over the speaker phone. Other witnesses were fellow employees of Ms Rashid. Ms Rashid did not have the phone on loud speaker but her colleagues sitting near her heard her side of the conversation. It was sufficiently unusual to attract their attention.

Witness close to Jane Clift were interviewed. Just like witnesses, family, friends, would be interviewed.

21# Also on 1 December 2005 Mr Kelleher filled out a standard form prepared in accordance with the Policy. It is known as a Violent Incident Report Form.

Same type of reporting form used in other countries as well to document incidents.

22# Mr Satterthwaite is the author of the Policy and the officer of the Council responsible for compliance with Data Protection and other related matters. He maintains the Register. It is a document prepared on Excel spreadsheet software. It contained ten columns and, at the relevant time, about 150 rows. Each row related to a person identified by name and address given in the first two columns. Ms Clift’s name was entered on the Register by Mr Satterthwaite upon information provided by Mr Kelleher. Details of the incident are given in column 5 as “threatening behaviour on several occasions”. The duration for which the person is to remain on the register is given in column 8 and in respect of Ms Clift the period is 18 months. The ninth column contains a title “Risk Rating VH, H, M and L” the entry for Ms Clift is M for medium. Two entries are admittedly inaccurate. The location of the incident is given at column 4 as “via correspondence”. The date of the incident is given in column 6 as “30/11/2005”.

All your information get’s documented.

24# The precise means by which the Register was circulated did not emerge clearly in evidence. Ms Clift protested immediately at her inclusion on the Register and asked if there was a right of appeal. She was informed there was not. In a letter dated 13 December 2005 Mr Satterthwaite (signing himself as Data Protection/ Health and Safety Co-ordinator) explained his decision in terms which implied that the Register had already been circulated by that date, as might be expected. Some information as to whom the Register had been shared with was given in that letter. More detailed information as to the publishees is not recorded in the form of an email before one that has survived dated 27 January 2006.

Health and Safety Co-ordinator did not give her the chance to appeal, so she took it to court.

30# The letter dated 13 December 2005 from Mr Satterthwaite to Ms Clift includes the following:

“Re – your letter dated 10 December 2005 – PVP Marker

A request for information that you sent to the Council, has been passed to me to answer, as I am the Data Controller for the PVP register.

Under the Management of Health and Safety at Work Regulations (1992), we have a duty of care to ensure that we do not put our employees into situations that may cause them physical or mental harm…

This register is shared between the Council’s Health and Safety co-ordinators to distribute on a need to know basis to managers, (especially those services that interface with our customers) so they can take the appropriate actions to protect their staff. This register is also sent to our partner organisations that may provide a service on our behalf (i.e. Slough Accord, Interserve, NHS Primary Care Trust and The Community Safety Partnership). Once the time limit has expired, using the same communication chain, a request is made that all traces of the warning marker is removed from the individual’s name.

This is what get’s distributed, and this is the same wording in most of the documents that I have been reading up on.

31# That letter reflects guidance from two sources. Whether it does so correctly is another matter. The first source is the Policy. This includes what, in another context, would be called sentencing guidelines, listing the activities that may render a person liable to have a violent person marker placed on their file and the “set period” said to be commensurate with the activity. The second document is one issued by the Information Commissioner covering five pages, entitled “Data Protection Act 1998 Compliance advice Violent Warning Markers: used in the public sector” (“the Compliance Advice”).

32# Ms Clift pursued her rights of access and sought further information under the Data Protection Act. By a letter dated 11 January 2006 Mr Satterthwaite wrote as follows:…..

Mainly social services related activities – Supporting People, Community Mental Health Team and Community Nursing

– Community Safety Partnership

Neighbourhood Wardens

Disclosure was made to the above organisations as they may all have cause to visit your address, for face to face contact. A good example of this is one of the many satisfaction surveys carried out.

She wrote the request under the Data Protection Act. Note her file was shared and distributed to quite a few people.

42# After further submissions on the questions to be asked of the jury counsel agreed that I should direct them as follows:

“If you assess damages, then you take into account circulation to 30 people for the e-mail and 150 for the Register. You leave out of account the remainder of the 66 to whom the e-mail was addressed unless you answer question 2 yes [in other words unless they find malice].

If you answer yes to question 2, you take into account all 66 people to whom the e-mail was sent and 150 for the Register”.

THE DATA PROTECTION ACT AND THE HUMAN RIGHTS ACT

These two acts played heavily into her defense.

43# The first proceedings brought by Ms Clift were in the County Court under the DPA. She commenced those proceedings on 13 January 2006 alleging that the Register was inaccurate. Those proceedings have been stayed to await the outcome of this libel action.

This is what Jane Clift had to do to clear her record.

(a) The widespread publication of information that a person is ‘violent’ and their inclusion on a register of ‘violent persons’ is a serious interference with that persons Article 8 rights which requires cogent justification.

(b) Ms Clift had never used violence towards the First Defendant’s employees and had never threatened any such employee with violence. No employee had complained about Ms Clift’s conduct and no contemporaneous ‘Violent Incident Report’ relating to Ms Clift had been completed by any person.

Point 46. interference with a persons Article 8 rights.

47# There followed a plea of malice which is summarised in para 2 above. The plea of publication set out the facts I have already recited in relation to the circulation of the e-mail with the Register as an attachment on 27 January 2006. The next paragraph material to be cited reads as follows:

“10 The Register entry and the e-mail were distributed excessively widely to persons and bodies with whom [Ms Clift] had no contact and had no interest in [Ms Clift].

When I have no contact with individuals across boarders, why is my information shared with them? Clients or associates in other countries should not have this information disseminated, but they are.

50# Nevertheless, it is appropriate to set out the terms of the draft amendment as follows:

“12A Further by publishing the e-mail and the Register Entry the [Council] has interfered with [Ms Clift]’s rights under Article 8 (1) of the European Convention on Human Rights without such interference being justified under Article 8 (2) and as a result its actions were unlawful under Section 6 of the Human Rights Act 1998.

The targets in European countries could start to look into this via data protection and Human Rights Conventions, Articles 8 and 6. See a lawyer first.

66# It is understandable that Mr Beggs should have ordered his arguments as he did. The Council has policies on both health and safety, and on data protection. Mr Kelleher and Mr Satterthwaite made the decisions they did make after considering these policies. Mr Satterthwaite directed himself on the law of health and safety at work, and on data protection, as set out in the Policy and the Compliance Advice. He did not mention the law of libel. Whether or not Mr Satterthwaite directed himself correctly is an issue for the court. But it is understandable that the Defendants should wish to be judged by the law which they understood to be applicable. Mr Beggs may also have taken the view that the course I adopted in the Westminster case at para 151 would be difficult to support. If so, he did not say that.

Health and Safety at work.

75# Mr Beggs submitted that the Council owed a duty to ensure the safety of their staff. He cited Health and Safety at Work Act 1974 ss.2 and 3 and the Management of Health and Safety at Work Regulations 1999 (SI 1999/3242), in particular regulations 3-5 and Schedule 1.

Health and Safety consistently cited throughout this whole case, used for justification.

90# The absence of a system of monitoring to whom the Register was published means that the Claimant may not be able to prove the full extent of the publication. The onus of proof is upon her, and if she is unable to discharge it, that cannot be relevant to the defence of qualified privilege that might be available in respect of other publications which she can prove.

A disgraceful lack of oversight is what I like to call it.

94# Para 16 provides that:

Data controllers should ensure that only those members of staff who are likely to come into physical contact with a potentially violent individual, through visits or by meeting in open plan reception areas, or who can otherwise demonstrate a need to know, have access to violent warning marker information. So for example where a member of staff is required to visit a potentially violent individual, at this point they should be advised of this fact”.

Physical contact. There is that word again.

98# The Compliance Advice does not assist on the definition of violence or violent behaviour. The Policy gives what it states are “Examples of violent behaviour covered by the Code of Practice”. They include: “Shouting, Swearing, Racial / Sexual Abuse, Threats, Pushing, Spitting, Object Thrown, Damage, Hostage and Actual Violence”. These are all things which an employee should expect to be protected from. But to refer to them all as examples of violence, or even potential violence, gives an extended definition of that word. It normally connotes at least a threat of physical force, and one which is meant seriously.

An expanded definition of violence. So shouting by someone’s standards could get you and did help to get Jane Clift on the list. You have to be so very careful with these individuals.

109# Documents are now normally held and communicated electronically. It is easy and common to circulate by e-mail to very large numbers of people, within (and outside) an organisation, information which, in the past, would have been addressed in a letter or memo to very few. It is therefore much more likely than in the past that information will be communicated to persons to whom no duty is owed, or who do not have a legally sufficient interest in receiving the information. It was in order to address this change in practice that the data protection legislation was introduced, first in a limited form in 1984, and then as it is now in DPA. HRA was not specifically targeted at this issue, but it undoubtedly applies to it.

How far and wide is information getting shared? This is going to be an interesting question to look into. I get the feeling with limited oversight, they are using this to smear targets left, right and center.

112# The historical cases show that the values set down in the Convention in 1950 as rights under Articles 8 (including the right to reputation) and Article 10 (including the right of freedom of expression in the giving of references and warnings) were not invented in 1950. These and some other Convention rights can be traced back, not only to the American Bill of Rights and the French Declaration in the eighteenth century, but also to the very beginnings of English law. So one thing that HRA has achieved is to provide a means through which the courts can review the relative priority that the common law gave to those rights (which it already recognised), and adjust those priorities to meet contemporary needs.

This case was very interesting. Lot’s of good points, targets might be able to use. Check with a legal expert.

117#

On the one hand looms the probability, often amounting to a certainty, of damage to the individual, which in some cases will be serious and may indeed be irreparable. The entire future prosperity and happiness of someone who is the subject of a damaging reference which is given carelessly but in perfectly good faith may be irretrievably blighted. Against this prospect is set the possibility that some referees will be deterred from giving frank references or indeed any references.”

Yes slander can ruin your life.

120# The DPA has created new statutory rights which are in no way related to employment or other relationships, although they affect such relationships. That Act requires attention to be focussed on the rights of those who are the subjects of references and warnings, as well as on the rights of those to whom the references and warnings are addressed. Personal data must be processed (which includes disclosed) “fairly and lawfully”, and it must be accurate: see Sch I. There are extensive provisions on the interpretation of these and other principles and a number of statutory instruments containing further provisions. I shall not consider these further, because Mr Tomlinson made no submission based upon them. He confined his submissions to the new rights and duties created by the HRA, which apply to the defendant council, but would not apply directly to a private sector employer.

Wow you mean people can’t just create fake incidents, data must be accurate? Guess it’s time to start reviewing some files and see what is actually out there. What has been said, attributed to individual files vs what is accurate. There has to be a way to do a class action for inaccurate information, especially if there is a systemic practice that is occurring.

128# The jury answered No to each of the first three questions: they rejected the defence of justification and the allegation of malice. They awarded damages of £12,000 to Ms Clift. So, Ms Clift left court with her reputation vindicated and Mr Kelleher left court without a stain on his reputation.

http://www.1brickcourt.com/files/cases/140CLIFT_58136.pdf

March 28, 2010 Posted by | Gang Stalking, Gangstalking, Health and Safety, Isolation, Laws, Minorities, Monitoring, Record keeping, Social Control, society, Spying, Stalking, State target, violent persons registry | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | 10 Comments

Iwatch. Nationwide citizen watch program

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,561661,00.html

New iWatch Program Urges Citizens to Be ‘Eyes and Ears’ Against Terror Plots, iWatch is a nationwide community watch program

[quote]
A new program aimed at keeping Americans safe from terror attacks will rely on individual citizens to serve as “the eyes and ears” of their communities.

iWatch is a community watch program endorsed by police chiefs across the U.S. that teaches people how to detect suspicious behavior and report it to police.[/quote]

Other sutable names. Istasi, Istalk, Iharass, Iturninmyneighbour and many more.

[quote]

L.A. Police Chief William Bratton, who developed the program with Police Commander Joan McNamara, called it the 21st century version of Neighborhood Watch, a program that encourages local residents to stay alert and informed about their neighborhoods.

“A single observation, a single report can lead to actions that can stop a terrorist attack,” warns a Public Safety Announcement video released by the LAPD.[/quote]

A single report can do so much damage, just like in Russia or the Stasi Era.

[quote]When the chiefs of the 63 largest police departments in the U.S. and Canada met to endorse iWatch at a conference last Saturday, they cited the case of Najibullah Zazi — the Denver man suspected of having ties to Al Qaeda who has been accused of plotting to use a weapon of mass destruction within the U.S.[/quote]

Wow Big Brother Canada was also there what a surprise.

Anyways as I have said a billion times these types of programs will come to the public light, this one is a program that is nationwide, and Canada somehow seems to be taking apart. All we need now is one that is planet wide, coming soon to a one world government near you.

These programs will come to light, Gang Stalking will be proven, but will anyone care? See it won’t be proving it, I don’t think that will be the big hurdle, much of that has already been done and overcome. Getting the ameba to show any remorse will be the real challenge and I don’t really know that that will happen.

http://www.lapdonline.org/iwatchla

[quote]iWATCH, iREPORT, i KEEP US SAFE (iWATCH) is a community awareness program created to educate the public about behaviors and activities that may have a connection to terrorism.

This program is a community program to help your neighborhood stay safe from terrorist activities. It is a partnership between your community and the Los Angeles Police Department. We can and must work together to prevent terrorist attacks.

To learn about the iWATCH program and about the behaviors and activities that you should report, view the videos and review the list of examples. You can also read and download a brochure that explains the program.

Remember that the iWATCH program is about behaviors and activities, not individuals. [/quote]

Ipuke, Igag, I am sorry, but this sucks. If they are being so open about it then the snitch force is complete enough for them to be this open and this proud about.

Well I just thought it might be interesting to read.

November 8, 2009 Posted by | Gang Stalking, Snitches, Social Control, society, Spying, Stalking, Stasi, State target | , , , , , , , , , , , , , | 5 Comments

Becoming

Becoming

http://www.twiztv.com/scripts/buffy/season2/buffy-222.htm

[quote]Cut to the atrium. Angelus plays with his sword, idly pointing it at Buffy. She looks up at him, frightened.

Angelus:  Now that’s everything, huh? No weapons… No friends… No hope.

Buffy closes her eyes and steels herself for whatever’s coming.

Angelus:  Take all that away… and what’s left?

He draws the sword back and thrusts it directly at her face. With lightning-fast reflexes she swings up with both arms and catches the blade between the palms of her hands. She opens her eyes and meets his.

Buffy:  Me.

She shoves the blade away from her, and the hilt of the sword hits Angelus in the face. He staggers back, and she hops to her feet and kicks him in the chest. He stumbles back even more, and she reaches down and picks up her sword. She swings it around and thrusts at him, but he
manages to parry. They exchange several blows, blocking each other.

Buffy spins around and swings her sword down at him from above. He holds up his own to block, but she hits it hard and he falls to one knee. She swings again, and he blocks. She spins around with a roundhouse kick to
his side, and he collapses to the ground.[/quote]

I don’t know how many people caught the show when it was on the air, but this was a really good series. I was pretty hooked on it at the time, and season 2 episode 2 becoming is one of the best.

I can still watch it and it’s still as good as it was then.

For those who didn’t watch the series or thought it was kind of light here is the run down.

The series was Buffy The Vampire Slayer, it was about this girl, who sort of discovers that she is a bit unique and her mission is to save the world by slaying vampires.

[quote]“Into every generation a Slayer is born. One girl in all the world, a Chosen One. One born with the strength and skill to fight the vampires, to stop the spread of their evil and the swell of their numbers.”[/quote]

I know it seems kind of cheesy on the outset, but this show spawned one of the most intelligent communities on the web at the time. No matter where I am, I still come across people from that community. I think about 3 people wrote there PHD’s on the topic of this show, just to give you an idea.

I digress, season 2, the Buffy Angel romance, or not so much romance, but the relationship that almost destroyed the slayer and ruined her life.

I am going to summarize part two, so bear with me.

Buffy Slayer falls for Vampire with a soul. Vampire falls for slayer and they finally come together at some point in season two, and the romance get’s serious. Angel has a moment of true happiness, with Buffy where his soul is content and at peace, this causes some gypsy curse to kick in, and he becomes Angelus, this evil vampire without a soul.

Anyways, he spends the rest of season two, killing her friends, psychologically terrorising her, and literally trying to destroy her. She spends the rest of the season coming to grips with the fact that he is not the person she once loved, and in fact his new mission is to destroy her.

We watch the slayer mature and come to terms with this, and then the final episode, we have the clip above. Most times he was able to use psychological manipulation and it worked to distract her from what she was able to do, by playing on her fears and weaknesses, the Angelus character once again attempts to do this, but instead of falling apart, this time Buffy comes back with me.

[quote]Angelus:  Now that’s everything, huh? No weapons… No friends… No hope.

Buffy closes her eyes and steels herself for whatever’s coming.

Angelus:  Take all that away… and what’s left?

He draws the sword back and thrusts it directly at her face. With lightning-fast reflexes she swings up with both arms and catches the blade between the palms of her hands. She opens her eyes and meets his.

Buffy:  Me.[/quote]

See sometimes in life this is where you are, specifically with Gang Stalking, this is where they want you to be, so that you can slip and fall, and become a snitch, or kill yourself, or end of in jail or a mental ward, and what you have to remember as things around you are falling apart, people are betraying you, and at every turn someone tries to destroy you, what have you got left? Me.

If you can remember this, and draw on some kind of reserve when that time comes, you might just be ok. More importantly, you might just find a way to get through. That is what we have to hold on to, and we know that in any realm, that is what these people do. They use things and people that you trust and turn them against you, and use them to help destroy you, it’s something to be aware of and come to grips with, and like the character Buffy, you have to mature and come to realise that people you once loved, and cared about, might not have your best interest at heart.

Now hopefully unlike Buffy, you won’t have to put a sword through your vampire lover and send him or (her) to hell, but if it comes to it, then do what you have to do. (I don’t literally mean that you will have to put swords, what I do mean, is you might have to psychologically shore yourself up, so that you don’t let things and people bring you down.

Ok I am going to leave you with the final scene for that episode. It’s bitter sweet, but such is life. The point is, you can triumph and overcome difficult situations, but it’s not easy, but do your best, and remember you always have you even if you feel like you have no one else.

[quote]Willow:  Asa sa fie! Asa sa fie! Acum!

Translation:  So it shall be! So it shall be! Now!

Cut to the mansion. Angelus has dropped his sword and holds his cut.
Buffy does a high kick to his face, and he falls backward into Acathla
and lands on his knees before her.

Cut to the hospital.

Willow:  Acum!

Translation:  Now!

The Orb glows brightly for a brief moment and goes dark. Willow suddenly
relaxes, and looks around blankly.

Cut to the mansion. Buffy raises her sword to dispatch Angelus, but
stays herself when he suddenly gasps loudly and groans in pain. She sees
his eyes glow bright red for an instant and go back dark. He looks up at
her, but quickly collapses to the floor, crying. Buffy stares down at
him, but still holds her sword raised behind her. Angel raises himself
back up, his eyes heavy with tears, and looks into her eyes.

Angel:  (softly) Buffy? (sobs) What’s going on?

She just looks at him, confused but not yet ready to lower the sword. He
looks around a bit and gets to his feet.

Angel:  Where are we? I-I don’t remember.

Finally Buffy realizes that the curse has worked, and she slowly lowers
her sword.

Buffy:  (softly) Angel?

Angel:  (sees her wound) You’re hurt.

She looks down at her wound and feels his gentle touch on her arm. She
ignores her cut, looks back up at him and steps closer. He embraces her
tightly.

Angel:  Oh, Buffy… God.

She still isn’t completely sure that it’s true, but accepts the hug.

Angel:  I… I feel like I haven’t seen you in months.

Finally she accepts it, closes her eyes and breathes out a deep sigh.

Angel:  Oh, my God, everything’s so muddled. I…

He holds her even more closely.

Angel:  Oh…

He sighs deeply and kisses her on the shoulder.

Angel:  Oh, Buffy…

She cries into his shoulder and hugs him back. Behind him Acathla lets
out a low rumble. Buffy opens her eyes and stares in shock as Acathla’s
face contorts. His brows angle down, his eyes glow red, his mouth opens
grotesquely and the swirling vortex to Hell opens, small at first, but
growing steadily in size and emanating a deep, red glow. Buffy lets go
of Angel and looks up into his face.

Angel:  (confused) What’s happening?

Buffy:  (whispers reassuringly) Shh. Don’t worry about it.

She brushes her fingers over his lips and across his cheek. She lays her
hand on his cheek and kisses him softly. He returns the kiss, and it
becomes more passionate. Behind them the vortex has grown to about five
feet (1.5 m) across and continues to get larger. Buffy breaks off the
kiss and looks deeply into Angel’s eyes.

Buffy:  (whispers) I love you.

Angel:  (whispers) I love you.

She touches his lips with her fingers again.

Buffy:  Close your eyes.

She nods reassuringly, and he closes his eyes. She tries hard not to
start crying, and kisses him again gently. She steps back, draws back
her sword and thrusts it into his chest. His eyes whip open in surprise
and pain, and a bright light emanates from the sword. She steps away
from him. He reaches out to her and looks down at the sword thrust
completely through him. He looks at her imploringly, completely
bewildered by this turn of events. She can only stare at the sword
protruding from his chest, and slowly steps further back.

Angel:  Buffy…

Behind him the power of the sword begins to swirl into the vortex. Buffy
steps further back, still looking only at the sword in his chest and not
into his face. The vortex has enlarged to about twelve feet (3.5 m)
across, and the two energies begin to interact. Angel still holds out
his hand to Buffy. When the vortex finally meets him it suddenly closes
into Acathla’s mouth without so much as a spark, taking him with it.
Buffy stares at the stone demon for a long moment, a light of awareness
dawning in her eyes as she truly realizes what she has done, what she
has lost. She begins to sob, her heart breaking. In the background “Full
of Grace”, by Sarah McLachlan, begins to play over the scene.

Lyrics:  The winter here is cold…

Dissolve to Buffy’s street. She walks across it toward her house.

Lyrics:  …and bitter / It’s chilled us to the bone / We haven’t seen
the sun for weeks / Too long, too far from home

She looks at the neighboring houses, then back at hers. Cut into the
house. Joyce climbs the steps and looks down the hall at Buffy’s door.

Lyrics:  I feel just like I’m sinking

Joyce:  Buffy?

Lyrics:  And I claw for solid ground

She walks to Buffy’s room and looks in. The windows are open, and some
of her daughter’s things are strewn on the bed. She steps in and looks
around.

Lyrics:  I’m pulled down by the undertow

She sees a note on the bed among a bunch of clothes.

Lyrics:  I never thought I could feel so low

She picks up the note and reads.

Lyrics:  And, oh, darkness / I feel like letting go

She begins to cry as she reads and sits down on the bed.

Lyrics:  If all of the strength and all of the courage / Come and lift
me from this place
[/quote]

Oh and yeah, I can still watch this show and be on the edge of my seat on some of those scenes, this show crossed gender and cultural barriers, and it’s still as relevant today in many ways as it was then, special thanks to Joss Whedon for creating such a unique and memorable show, universe, and for an amazing and unique community the likes I have not yet come across again.

http://www.wat.tv/video/sarah-mclachlan-full-of-grace-10qab_wszu_.html

March 22, 2009 Posted by | Awareness, Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Citizen Informants, Civilian Spies, Cointelpro, Community harassment, community mobbing, communityharassment, Conformity, Conspiracy, control, Controlled society, Covert investigations, domestic spying, driving-crazy, Emotional Vampires, Entrapment, Female, Gang Stalking, Gangstalking, harassment, Informants, slavery, slaves, Snitches, Social Control, society, Spying, Stalking, Stasi, State target, Surveillence, Targeted Individual | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | Leave a comment

Silence is not golden

I recently saw the news that Israel had used air-strikes on Palestine and had killed over 200 people.

There were discussions about this on the forums and all over the place, but what was also being discussed was the fact that President Elect Obama had remained silent.

He apparently at the time of those postings had not come out and commented. To say that this was disappointing would be an understatement. Some of the comments were things like, is this the change he promised us? Another poster was like, I knew we could not trust him, another was more hopeful and thought maybe he was just waiting to say something. I personally don’t know what the truth is, personally I am just going to wait and see.

I can tell you however a few things that I have been seeing lately. After Obama pulled that shirt off stunt, some of the people more than ever, have been  expecting their Camelot back. At a time when things are really not looking good, something about Obama reminds these people, and I say these people, because it’s not just Americans, it remind and makes many people hopeful. They don’t just like him, many of these people, seem to love him.

The other thing about this incident is people are disappointed because they are looking to him for leadership. I know he is only the president elect currently, but that does not seem to matter to many, they are looking to Obama, for guidance and leadership.

The other thing about Obama is he reminds some people of Martin Luther King Jr, but Martin Luther King Jr, knew that “injustice anywhere is injustice everywhere”, that’s why he could not remains silent about Vietnam. If he had not spoken about Vietnam, they might have let him live, but he did not remain silent, he knew that “The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy”, and thus he spoke up and spoke out, and the people loved him for it, and many are again expecting a similar type of leadership.

I just think that if Obama is not going to be that type of leader, he should speak now or forever hold his peace, cause he is just going to end up breaking their hearts, and that’s not cool. These people believe in him, and as far as the polls are concerned, he is the most popular President in the last three decades. That says a lot.

http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article6619.shtml
[quote]
Israel is “our strongest ally in the region and its only established democracy,” Obama said, assuring his audience that “we must preserve our total commitment to our unique defense relationship with Israel by fully funding military assistance and continuing work on the Arrow and related missile defense programs.” Such advanced multi-billion dollar systems he asserted, would help Israel “deter missile attacks from as far as Tehran and as close as Gaza.” As if the starved, besieged and traumatized population of Gaza are about to develop intercontinental ballistic missiles.

Obama offered not a single word of criticism of Israel, of its relentless settlement and wall construction, of the closures that make life unlivable for millions of Palestinians.

There was no comfort for the hundreds of thousands of people in Gaza who live in the dark, or the patients who cannot get dialysis, because of what Israeli human rights group B’Tselem termed “one cold, calculated decision, made by Israel’s prime minister, defense minister, and IDF chief of staff” last summer to bomb the only power plant in Gaza,” a decision that “had nothing to do with the attempts to achieve [the] release [of a captured soldier] nor any other military need.” It was a gratuitous war crime, one of many condemned by human rights organizations, against an occupied civilian population who under the Fourth Geneva Convention Israel is obligated to protect. [/quote]

As for me and my opinion. I don’t know how to not be outspoken, so let me tell you that I think air-strikes on Palestinians is wrong, it’s not nice and I condemn it. I know that Palestine is not always innocent in their actions, but I also know that they are also provoked into taking action and lashing out. The knife cuts both ways, and no party is innocent here. However one party has airplanes, and tanks, and more fire power than a bunch of rockets.

I know many people are saying well then Palestine should sit back, shut up and take it, cause they know they are going to get their butts kicked, but it doesn’t work that way. As a target of Gang Stalking and the underdog in a really horrible situation of state oppression, I am in the unique position to be able to sympathise with the underdog.

The same way I consistently hope that my fellow citizens will raise up their voices and condemn what is happening to me and other targets as unjust and do something about it, is the same way I am speaking up and saying that what is happening to these people is unjust.

Two things come to mind. Recently this year Israel closed the borders with Palestine. I found out recently what this meant. This meant that organizations like the Red Cross could not get food and other supplies into the people of Palestine. This also means that no one can leave and no one can enter, that’s means you turned them into a prison. A prison where people are starving and dying, and the people can’t leave to save themselves, and the people who are trying to get in to help them can not. That is unjust and not nice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSzn7XLLM7c

The other thing I found out recently is that Israel are trying to get the people of Palestine to become snitches. You know how I feel about this. If they can turn those people into snitches, then this global surveillance society is just one step closer. The U.S. has accomplished this in Iraq, and Palestine is one more area where this needs to be accomplished. Apparently imprisoning and starving people is a good way to do this. Uncool.
[quote]
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/04/israelandthepalestinians.middleeast1/print

Israel’s secret police pressuring sick Gazans to spy for them, says report·

Treatment only offered to would-be informants

Monday 4 August 2008

Israel’s secret police are pressuring Palestinians in Gaza to spy on their community in exchange for urgent medical treatment, according to a report released today by an Israeli human rights organisation.

Physicians for Human Rights says the Shin Bet began interrogating Palestinian patients seeking permission to travel from Gaza to Israel for crucial medical help after Israel blockaded and then declared the tiny territory an enemy entity more than a year ago.

Typically, patients are taken to a small, windowless room, underground, beneath the security terminal at Erez, the only passenger crossing that remains open between Gaza and Israel, where they are questioned by Shin Bet agents for hours, the report says.

Refusal to cooperate often results in the denial of medical treatment. Based on the testimonies of more than 30 Palestinians – 11 of which are published – the report says the Shin Bet is using coercion and extortion to force patients to collaborate.

“They took me through underground passages and made me sit in another waiting room for almost 45 minutes. A man approached me and called me to another room for interrogation. He asked me to sit down and presented himself as Moshe,” Bassam al-Wahidi, a Fatah-aligned journalist, said in his affidavit to Physicians for Human Rights.

“After all my responses he said to me: ‘I want to talk to you openly when you return from Israel so that you will have an acceptable reputation on the Israeli side. Either you make contact with me and agree to my demands, or you will not get any medical treatment which will cause you to be blind and you will become a burden to your family and friends,'” Wahidi said in his affidavit.

But he said he refused and was forced to return to Gaza without receiving any treatment. Now the 28-year-old, who married a year and a half ago, is completely blind in his right eye and losing the vision in his overstrained left eye.

“I might divorce because I can’t stand in front of my wife as a disabled person,” Wahidi said .
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I don’t have a problem condemning unjust actions when I see it. I know both parties have been at fault in the past, but this air-strike was unkind and cruel.

As a target of Gang Stalking I am the underdog at times against state oppression, my fellow citizens are used to provoke me, and other Targeted Individuals, if we lash out in public at anytime, it is the target who will be portrayed as the aggressor, and the belligerent one, who is causing all the trouble, but the unseen side of that, the side that is not reported, is that our lives are being messed with and interfered with on a daily bases, in unspeakable ways. Yet if we lash out, we are the aggressors.
The situation in the middle East is not an easy one. I often think, what would King Solomon do if he was alive today, and having to deal with this situation? For those who don’t know Solomon was an old testament King, he is famous for helping two women who both claimed a baby was theirs, he decided to see how they would react if he split the baby in half, the real mother said no go ahead and give the baby to the other woman, and the other woman was ok with splitting the baby apart. He is known for his vast wisdom, his leadership, and he was an amazing king, probably one of the best old testament Kings that Israel had. He was a just king, his wisdom endeared him to not only the people of Israel but to those far and wide, even causing the Queen of Sheba to come from her nation to pay him a visit.

I often wonder what such leaders of the past would say about the situations in this time period. What would Martin Luther King Jr say? What would Solomon do? We can only guess in some cases, but we do have leaders in this time period, some of which the people are counting on to make the right decisions for them and others. History will remember this time and the actions or in actions that accompanied it. I would like this time to be remembered as a time of change for the better, not for it’s silence and in actions.

December 28, 2008 Posted by | Gang Stalking | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | 1 Comment

Chain Reaction

After researching much of the information regarding the Informant system, I believe this is at the heart of much of the corruption that we are seeing in our society. In our justice systems and in our communities. I believe this system is enslaving large portions of society. I also believe that there are many of us that were and are blissfully unaware of what is happening and will remain so until it is too late.
There is a chain reaction that is happening in society that if left unchecked has the potential to infect and destroy the very core of society that we have all known and depended on. That is of course the snitching infection. I call it that, because there is no other way to describe some of the events that I have read about while doing research into the Informant system.

While researching this phenomenon I have come across people who one minute seemed like average decent persons, and the next minute after being caught up in the Snitching/Informant system were willing to sell their very mothers down the drain to keep themselves free. This is not going to be the case for every Informant, but it’s the case with too many that are a part of this system.

Once let loose back into society many will continue with a life of crime. others will continue with what I call the game.
The Game

The game is one of set up’s and betrayal where the Informant will try to set someone up for a fall. They will choose a target and the unsuspecting target will get caught up in a scheme of some kind, eventually be arrested, they do not necessarily have to have committed a crime, and then the informant will testify against the person they entrapped, or other informants will. Once this new person is caught up in the game, should they be turned informant then the cycle continues once again.

I don’t know how many Informants are a part of this game that is ongoing in society, but I suspect that the many are, and all of them once they decide to become informants are owned by the system, and their handlers. That means anytime the government wants or needs a favor guess who they will call upon? Do you begin to see the makings of a corrupt society? Remember they could call upon these informants years later after these informants have been let loose. Many of these Informants will also go onto have careers, and even become contributing members of society, but they are still owned by the state. A lot of these Informant deals are kept off the records, meaning that the person is owned by a handler, but there might not be an official record of it, but when that handler needs a favor, that Informant will be called upon, and will risk exposure if they do not comply.

For example, unlike a classic plea bargain, informant deals lack finality because an informant’s obligations are ongoing. Written co-operation agreements often extend a defendant’s obligations into perpetuity, while informal, unwritten agreements last as long as the police or prosecutor wishes to use that informant.

To understand how the game works, we will review three case studies. These are just a few of the many that I came across when reading the stories on the wall. It’s a continued pattern of set up on unsuspecting pigeons, and hardened Informants who will do what they need to do to stay out of jail.
http://www.november.org/thewall/wall/wall.html
Before we review the case studies I am going to again remind you of some statistics.

http://www.aclu.org/images/asset_upload_file744_30623.pdf

as many as fifty percent of African American males in some cities – are in contact with the criminal justice system and therefore potentially under pressure to snitch. By relying heavily on snitching, particularly in drug-related cases, law enforcement officials create large numbers of informants who remain at large in the community, engaging in criminal activities while under pressure to provide information about others. These snitches are a communal liability: they increase crime and threaten social organization, interpersonal relationships, and socio-legal norms in their home communities, even as they are tolerated or under-punished by law enforcement because they are useful.

The uncoordinated, widespread use of informants in the United States by thousands of different police departments and various federal agencies does not of course, amount to the focused, purposeful political mission of the Stasi. But if anywhere near eight percent of the male population in inner city communities is snitching, that figure meets or surpasses Stasi level of between one and ten percent of the total population as informers.

http://november.org/stayinfo/breaking08/HoffmanCase.html

If things had gone according to plan, you never would have heard of 23-year-old Rachel Hoffman. She would have just been another confidential informant, one of more than an estimated 100,000 in the United States who work with police to send someone else to jail.

These figures do not include people who are informers via work, school, or community group programs. When we take into consideration numbers such as that, we are looking at an epidemic that is worst than what happened in East Germany. Keep in mind that in addition to all this, there will also be 800,000 Terrorism Liaison Officers added to the Informant population in the United States. These figures should wake up America and other cities to the dangers of what is happening in various societies.

 

The Game
To understand the game you might want to picture it in the sense of how a disease spreads, you start with on carrier and that person infects one person right after another. Some of those carriers will go on to infect others. Some will be dormant and not infect anyone. You might also want to think of the movie lifeforce, where one has the constant need to feed on one person after another, then those victims need to feed on others. You can have a very sick and infested city in a short space of time if such an infection goes unchecked.
The game is one of the Informant being placed primarily back in society, but this could also happen in jail, where an informant via lies, deceit, entrapment or some other methods set’s up another person to take a fall. That person then come in contact with the criminal justice system, they can then choose to become informants themselves, or refusing to do so, will spend lengthy spaces of time in prison. This game is primarily enacted via drugs, but that’s not the extent of it. Shoplifting is another example. I see this used with the teenaged informants, setting up their friends to steal from the stores, so that they in turn can become snitches.

Theft, drugs, stolen cars, any crime that someone can make a deal with police to become informants, they can be released back into society and are a danger to the rest of society. This is not to say that all Informants are horrible people, many just did not want to be in jail, some others are a true danger to society, nearly all are under pressure by the government to produce other Informants, and that obligation is never ending, some are allowed to lay dormant, till they can be of use.
http://november.org/stayinfo/breaking08/FL-Hoffman6.html

In Hoffman’s case, it was the work of another informer that led to her own work for the police.

On April 15, an informer told Tallahassee police that Hoffman had sold marijuana in the past but hadn’t done so recently, according to police records.

At the time, Hoffman, 23, was in a pretrial drug diversion program because of charges of possession of marijuana and resisting arrest in February 2007. To stay in the program, she had to stay out of trouble.

Two days after police got the informer’s tip, a Tallahassee police officer stopped Hoffman as she was getting into her car

http://www.mapinc.org/images/Hoffman.jpg

Rachael Hoffman then went on to become an Informant. She first tried to set up a close friend and when that failed, the close friend helped her find the dealers who she tried to buy drugs from on behalf of the police. The sting went wrong and she was killed. Had this gone successfully, those drug dealers if they agreed to become informants might have been released back into society as Informants and the cycle would have continued. It’s a frightening cycle that has become more widespread than can be imagined.

 

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/snitch/

Case number 2.

Joey Settembrino was a young 18 year old, just about to go off to college.

He was set up by an Informant. The Informant was a close friend of his. He use to spend his weekends at the Informants house.

He was a very good friend. I had known the guy for many years. We had gone out every weekend, fishing on his boat, hydrosliding, skiing. I was very shocked; it was very unexpected. It’s not something you expect from friends.

In an Informants society, it’s what you expect from just about everyone and it makes people suspicious and closed off. This is what happened in East Germany once the population became aware of what was happening. In America many Americans are not aware that these types of games are being played. In these cases the targets were encouraged and did get into illegal activities, however that is not always the case, and many times innocent people who had nothing to do with illegal activities are still caught up in these games and convicted on the testimony of Informants.

He wanted me to go back to the house where I got the acid from and get something else. They wanted me to wear a wire and they wanted me to go back there … to buy some other type of drug, no matter what it was, whatever he had in the house, so they could set him up. Just a chain reaction, one gets to one, one gets the other and they just keep going. I told him that I couldn’t do that, that I didn’t get the drugs from that house. At that time I was really confused. I was shocked, and I told him that I couldn’t do anything for him. But he kept trying, he kept threatening, talking about a lot of time. “You’re going to do 25 years. You’re going to be in prison your whole life.” … He really tried to scare me. But I told him I couldn’t do anything for him … . [Eventually] they went back to the house in which I got it from, they arrested the other guy, my friend [who I bought the acid from]. And he’s now doing a 10-year sentence along with me.

Joey said it best. This is like a chain reaction that just keeps going and going. One get’s one, then another and another and another. Those in turn get others and the cycle continues. Remember it’s not just drugs, and it’s not just the guilty that are being caught up in this game. If we review cases of Gang Stalking, we hear of men who thought that a woman had entered their life for the sole purpose of setting them up to look like a rapist or something else.

There are stories of targets being framed or other set up’s, and there are targets that do turn informant and then go back into society and try to harm other targets. This is happening in ever sector of society. Rachel, Joey and even Clarence were all going off to college, or had finished college when they were caught up in these stings.

 
Joey refused to become a snitch and thus spent 10 years in jail. His friend that set him up, who had been caught for drugs himself, was back on the streets, selling drugs, and setting up at least 11 or 12 others in the first year that Joey was in jail.

Do you know why they wanted you?

I’ve asked that question, I’ve asked myself that a thousand times, “Why me? Why did he set me up?” …

In this game that is happening, I would say that they want just about everyone. They will get some people via community programs to be Informants, some via their places of employment, or community programs. Now the people who are informants via community programs and other legit means might not play the game of setting people up directly, but they are still part of the game, and they still work hand in hand with these others that are playing by a different set of rules. Many might not be aware of who they are working hand in hand with. At the end of the day, they all work for the state, government and all the orders come from the same sources.

 

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/snitch/cases/aaron.html
Clearance is in jail because he introduced two parties that wanted to buy or sell drugs to each other. He had never been involved with drugs before, but one day his cousin called him up and asked him if he could find someone to buy drugs from. He said he knew some people and thought that they might be involved in dealing, he would check into it.

Clearances case is interesting because all the other parties who turned Informant received less time than he did. He does not know why his cousin and the others turned against him and lied, or why the prosecutor seemed intent on punishing him because he would not snitch and become an Informant.

What was it like having your friends testify against you?

Well, we’re sitting in the courtroom. These guys that I knew all my life came up, and they said [stuff] about me that wasn’t true, and they hurt me. It really truly hurt me, Robert and James really hurt me ’cause James is my first cousin. I looked up to him all my life. Robert was supposed to be my best friend at the time. We grew up together from playing Pop ball all the way up to high school ball together, and I couldn’t believe that they would sit there, in front of me … and say the things that they said about me … . [The] only thing I could say was it wasn’t true. But nobody believed me … . You had to have a fall guy, and I was that person.

It should be noted that the others involved all had prior drug convictions. Which means if they were out on the street and able to set him up, they were likely already Informants. He doesn’t know why they turned on him, but it’s possible that this might have been the idea from the get go. The assumption being that he would turn snitch and then be in a prime candidate on the college campus, a pawn to be used to set up other pawns, because that is how the game works.

Why did he do it?

Well, I had a opportunity to talk to James one time … . He said, “Man, I’m sorry, man.” I say, “James, why you do me like that?” He say, “Because I had no choice.” I said, “What you mean you have no choice in the matter?” He say “Because Miss Griffin say she didn’t want Bob to try your case.” She say if [he] didn’t cooperate and do what she told him to do, that she was going to hurt him worse in his case … . He say, “Well, the prosecutor Miss Griffin said if I don’t do it she going to put me in prison for the rest of my life … . I got to do what I got to do.”

He stats that the prosecutor pulled his cousin aside and when his cousin went back on the stand, his cousin lied. This is not the first time scenarios like this have happened, it can only be imagined what these prosecutors or handlers have on these Informants to make them sell out their own friends, and family.

And the real drug dealers are out —

On the street now. And probably doing the same thing they were doing before they went in. I just don’t understand.

He also does not understand, but if you review enough of these cases, you start to see a pattern and you start to understand, this is how the game works, and yes they are probably back on on the street looking for the next pigeon to set up, and try to turn them into informants.

It reminds me of something a forum member once told me. This guy said that he was set up because he met this woman online, who he dated only to discover that she was married. Her husband got mad and that’s why he thought he was set up.

The person on my forum pointed out that he had met the woman via some co-workers who introduced him to the website where he located this woman. The person on my forum suggested that he was probably profiled and set up by the co-workers who sent him to the site, knowing he would met this woman. The idea is that these games and set up’s take place long before the victim is aware that they are part of a game.

 
The Global outlook.
Targets of Gang Stalking complain that even when they leave countries such as the U.K., Canada, U.S. that the stalking continues. That is understandable we have seen muli-governmental corporation in other investigations.

What is not understandable and the most frightening sector of this is that various targets have moved to a variety of countries and they all report the same thing, Informants that are able to follow them 24/7.

This suggest that these Informant networks are getting global in nature. They are popping up in areas that are unexpected, and if this trend continues we will have a global surveillance society.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/04/israelandthepalestinians.middleeast1/print

Middle East: Israel’s secret police pressuring sick Gazans to spy for them, says report· Treatment only offered to would-be informants
· Patients allowed to cross the border drops sharply

The same situation is happening in Iraq where they previously had family structures that might have prevented Informant networks from spreading as rapidly. The country will be rebuilt and the Informant structure will be a part of it.
Why would a global surveillance society be necessary?
I will not speculate. I will however say that based on research many societies in history that had a dictator, tyrant, or despot who came to power and who wanted to pull off an unpopular agenda’s such as Hitlers Germany, or Stasi East Germany, employed an army of Informants. It’s the most effective way that a society can control, monitor and subdue the inhabitants.

Since history has shown us that these informant networks are often needed to move forward tyrannical agendas, then can it be assumed that if we could slow down or stop the chain reaction of the Informant movement, we might be able to stop some of the corruption that we are seeing in many areas of society?

 

Stopping the Chain Reaction.

 

To stop the Informant infection people need to be aware that there is a lethal chain reaction happening in many parts of society. They need the understanding of how the game is played, and awareness of how far spread and how far reaching it is.

In America prison system reform could go a long way towards fixing the system that has become corrupt. Then prosecutors would not be as dependent on the testimonies of Informants and the power could start to shift back.

The family structure. Communities with less stable family structures are more vulnerable to this system.

People need to be aware that these entrapment’s are happening at every level of society, ever profession in society, thus why it goes all the way up to the top.

If people are unaware, they will not realise the various ways that people can become entrapped, including using someone that you are in a personal association with, or who you just “accidentally” meet. Someone you have a business relationship with.

Some people they will use their own greed and stupidity against them. Other will be a deliberate trap, others will be framed and will have committed no crime. Not being aware of how this system works, many will quietly accept off the record deals, and thus become indebted to the state, able to be used at will. Remember this is happening at all levels of society. Rich, poor, black, white, male, female.

If you have a parent, grandparent that was a snitch, Informant, they might try to go after the next generation. 

Your friends, family, co-workers, anyone that is an Informant not by choice but by force, can be a liability to an innocent person.

The problem is more widespread that many realise, and what’s even worst is the silence that surrounds this problem in society. Till it’s talked about, discussed, and exposed it will continue to infect society, and have far reaching and unimaginable consequences, not just for those caught up in the game, but for the many unsuspecting victims, targets, or pigeons yet to come. This is not just happening at local levels. Targets have moved to various countries around the globe and encounter the same type of surveillance network.

 

We must stop this chain reaction. Awareness and exposure are key.
Happy Holidays.

December 23, 2008 Posted by | Awareness, Citizen Informants, Civilian Spies, Controlled society, domestic spying, East Germany, Entrapment, Fascism, Gang Stalking, Gangstalking, harassment, Laws, New World Order, NWO, oppression, Police State, slavery, slaves, Snitches, society, Spying, Stasi, Stop snitching, Surveillence, Targeted Individual | , , , , , , , , , , , | 1 Comment

Cellphone Stalking

It occurred to me with all the talk about Cellphone Stalking, that I don’t think I have actually done a full post about this yet.

Well here goes. It’s starts off with this family and the teenage daughter’s cellphone one day starts sending off tet messages to her friends that she did not send. Not so strange, probably a glitch, but what happens next is more of a nightmare.

The family her whole family start getting threatening calls on the cellphone, the caller says he can hear and see them. The caller can not only see and hear  them, he can track and monitor them whereever they are.

*If they are at home, he will call and tell them what the kids are wearing, what they are doing.

*The mother was making lemonade, he called to tell her her preferred limes.

*They bought a security system, he called to say he knew the code.

*They went to the police. He sent them an a recording of the interview with the police.

*They were out camping in the woods, he called to tell them he could see them, what they were wearing etc.

*The daughter was at the club, he called told her where she was, what she was wearing.

*The Stalkers came to the house one day and the family called the cops, when the cops came, the stalkers left, then when the cops went away the stalkers came back. This happened 3 times and then the family gave up.

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/Story?id=3312813&page=1
The list goes on and on, but at the end of the day, this is what has been reported. There were a total of three families that this sort of stalking happened to. The Kuykendall family were the ones who went public.

The stalkers were able to track and view them 24/7. Knew their locations and anything they were doing anytime of the day, anyone in the family.

Didn’t matter if the phones were off, they would power themselves back on. Even if the phones seemed off, they could still listen in and hear them. Many people falsely believe that if the phone is off, you can’t be listened to, that is not correct.

I first wanted to say, that I don’t think this is gang stalking. There stalkers were extremely overt, ours are often semi covert. They had lot’s of proof for the police. This happened outside of the family, as well as inside of the family. Eg. The girls boyfriend received a call from the stalker saying that, the caller was going to rape or had raped his girlfriend. (It was not true.)

The experience was terrifying for the family. The daughter dropped out of school for a semester.

What does tie this into gang stalking is the fact that this is the first fuly documented, very public
case of 24/7 stalking and monitiring. Three families making the same sorts of claims. Showing that people can be tracked 24/7, by vidio and audio.

In this case, I get the feeling the stalkers were more localised, and it had more to do with the family, the daughter and her circle more than anything else. I do still think it was highly
malicious act, and the family were terrified.

Most of us go through the same thing on our own, we are never believed, and on top of that, they come into our homes when we are not there. They know when we are not there. They move our stuff around, we change locks, we get security systems and they still get past it.

On top of this, we are followed around out in public 24/7 and out Civilian Spies, often let us know that we are being followed, by repeating our personal situations and conversations out loud in public.

This family had the benefit of going through this together, most of us go though this alone, and we on top of that, have our friends, family, society, turned against us, and we often get hit with fraudulent mental health claims.

The reason this story is important is not just for targets, or the families this happened to, this story is important for all of society, because if it can happen to them, how do you know it’s not secretly happening to you? You don’t.

Now how could this have been done? There are a few ways. There is a company, which I will not promote here, it’s for cheating spouses, they can then let you track your spouses location. As I have talked about before, if you know someone’s cellphone number, there are programs on the Internet that let you track their location. GPS, etc.

There are also other programs that will let you, use the camera to watch what the person is doing, this goes for computers as well.

Now these might have been kids playing around, but think of what our governments, and others have the capacity to do.

Remember this family changed phones 6-7 times, different numbers, etc. It did not make an ounce of difference. That means all new models of phones have this capacity.

The other possibility that has not been discussed, is these stalkers, might have had access to some kind of satellite. If they had any kind of satelight access, there are now  satellights in space that can hear a whisper, satellites that can see into concrete bunkers, much less houses, and they are so precise they can could do what was described here and more.

Now let’s say our government wanted to spy on society. We all know that they would never do that
right, but let’s say the did. 🙂

Most people in modern day society have active listening and monitoring devices strapped onto them at any given hour of the day, that can visually and audio track them, and others around them in various locations and surrounding.

That means most of society could be getting spied on, even more so than we already are without thinking about it. Think of them as mini CCTV camera, with audio.

Also I don’t know how many people saw the new batman over the summer, but there is a scene where Bruce Wayne needs to find the joker, what he does is he uses this computer to turn every cellphone in the area into an audio and sonar bug. Meaning he could listen to them all, and see them in all in sonar mode. In the movie batman in that scene can literally see and spy on just about everyone with a cellphone. Keep this in mind.

We now know these phone have the capacity to do the type of surveillance these families described. This is something to think about as you carry your mini computers everywhere you go.

The other thing I wanted to mention in this post are the flat screen televisions, that we see in malls, elevators, doctors offices, etc. They often show news, the time, other updated information. For some odd reason, they often remind me of those screens in the movie 1984. You know where it looks like a T.V. but it can be used to spy on the average public. Those things are starting to be everywhere.

I am not saying that is what is happening, however for some odd reason, every time I walk past one it puts that in mind.

September 28, 2008 Posted by | Laws, psychological harassment, society | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | 2 Comments