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Gang Stalking and poverty

I think I understand a bit more about some communities and why they function the way they do. See as Targeted Individuals we sort of a minority in society, meaning not too many people listen to our concerns, complaints, cries, etc.

Many see targets as crazy and so it’s ok to abuse them. What many of us experience in our daily lives is like living in a sort of war zone, and many just don’t or can’t understand this simply because it’s just not their experience. So they expect the normal societal rules to apply to us, but they just don’t.

Till they experience what we experience, they can’t understand why a target might lash out, get angry. Why a target might act in way, or take actions that many find unacceptable. They do not live in the reality that we do, but they still expect the same rules to apply. We face a type of war zone in many ways, they do not. Our survival is a struggle, for many they just have the normal things to live with, their lives are not being systemically destroyed.

I think I just gained some insight into poor and disadvantaged communities. They too live differently than the rest of society. The conditions that many poor live in and the daily circumstances and conditions are not the same as the rest of society live in, and until you are in their situations and circumstances, you can not judge their actions, or choices that they make.

The person I was several years ago is not the same person that I am today, how could it be if I expect to survive. I have had to learn new rules, and change how I live, because the situation is that critical. How many average people have to take their important docs with them all the time? How many have to come back to their home and worry about home entries, or break in’s while they were out? How many have to worry about home entries while they are asleep? How many have to worry about food being poisoned? How many have to worry about being sprayed with chemicals? Gasing, poisoning? How many have to learn to shield their bodies so that they won’t be burnt while they try to sleep, acoustically attacked and manipulated? How many have had to go through trauma like that for a day, a week, a month, years, decades? Not too many people that I can think of. A lot of targets end up being hypervigilant, some even have symptoms of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder after being targeted for so many months or years.

As targets we have to have different rules to survive, different ways of living. Going to the police is often not an option. Finding people to care about our cause often does not happen, cause they would rather blame us, and believe that we have done something, deserving or worthy of our actions, or that we are somehow mentally ill, and that these conditions are deserving and worthy of us. I don’t think the same way that I did a few years ago. I don’t trust state powers, I understand and believe that there is indeed a global agenda, for a united world. I think sometimes the only way to come to a place of understanding is to live a specific situation.

Years ago many would have been of the opinion that the police are your friends, but now in today’s society with so many clips of misconduct, and or brutal arrests of citizens, many are revising that opinion and worry that the police might not be performing the same roles, that they were known for years ago.

I think that being poor and socially disadvantaged is different. I think that is why some people live by different rules, their experiences are different, and so is it fair to judge and apply the same rules to others, who’s day in day out is so vastly different than your own?

Eg. Some people live in communities with high drugs, crime, prostitution, unemployment, higher mortality rates, lower standards of living, etc. Then the rest of society want to apply wall street or corporate rules to communities like that, it just does not work that way. People adapt to their living circumstances, and when your daily living is worrying about wither the police will shoot your son, wither your child will be prostituted out, or become a drug dealer, or if you will get a job, or if your spouse will get out of jail, or if your kid will go to jail, you are going to have different values and rules that you live by if you want to survive. You are not in a war zone with bullets flying by, or (actually some people are, in poor communities, and they also have airplanes overhead.) ok maybe they don’t have grenades, but the point is, their lives are like a mini war zone of another kind, and so people that are disadvantaged in that way, may well not act, think, respond like every other member of society. We don’t have the same living, economic, social conditions for everyone, but we have the same societal rules for everyone, and that is just not always going to work. The rules should be reflective of the social conditions that people find themselves in, standards of living, and societal norms for their area.

I think being a Targeted Individual has given me a bit of perspective into the lives of others. In Stasi Germany, you did not talk your business to anyone, you trusted no one, you minded your own business, and the society became very closed off that way, but that is what it took to survive, many did not want to live that way, but the chance in behavior was necessary for survival.

Some of us as Targets learn that you protect your data the best way that you can, that you don’t give out your private details, and to be very guarded. Targets mentally go through degrading, dehumanizing things, that other people just don’t see or have to experience.

A poster on Youtube just posted a delightful comment. I don’t know if this is something that happened to them directly, but it’s fully possible.

SwissBullion
11 hours ago

Does the threat assessment team decides who places the bodily fluids inside the targets home. Like semen inside a glass? or urine on the floor?

I mean I get people writing in with unpleasant things like this all the time, people who have have been sexually assaulted, all sorts of sick things. I was just reading one woman’s blog, and how she had to learn to accept the fact that they were watching her. As she dressed, she talked about how violating it was, comments they would make about her anatomy, but then she had to learn to try to get on with her life. Lot’s of targets have come to the realization that yeah they probably see ya naked, and it’s no better for men than women, because everyone values their privacy, unless you are an exhibitionist. I encounter stories like this, people leaving water in a child’s diabetic medicine etc. Targets live in mini pscyo, social experiments. Mini war zones if you will, they experience things that others just do not go through, and it’s day in, day out. These Threat Assessment Teams basically give an all out access to our persons, and horrendous things happen to targets, and it’s really unfair. So I understand a little bit more about what others go through, and I understand when you are a soldier in a war zone, the normal societal rules, and trappings just do not apply, well the same holds true for targets, who daily are psychologically ravaged, day in and day out. It’s truly unacceptable, but I now also realise that for years, others have been going through other types of mini war zones, where survival is also not assured, and they have learnt different set’s of rules for survival, but then the same rules are suppose to apply to everyone and they just can’t, and they should not. Till there is some level of equality in standards of living, then it’s not fair to expect the same actions, or outcomes.

October 18, 2010 Posted by | Gang Stalking | , , , , , , , , , | 2 Comments

Crime, Cover Up, Conspiracy, Collusion.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/world/europe/21ireland.html?_r=1&hp=&pagewanted=print

I hate talking about these types of stories but they have to be discussed, the report says the sexual abuse of the boys was ““endemic.”

[quote]Prevalent in or peculiar to a particular locality, region, or people:[/quote]

It was happening all throughout the system.
[quote]1930s to the 1990s, when the last of the institutions closed.[/quote]

This happened for over 60 years. For 60 long years thousands of abuses and it was again kept quite, by a community, a church, a society.

 

[quote]It exposes for the first time the scope of the problem in Ireland, as well as how the government and the church colluded in perpetuating an abusive system. The revelations have also had the effect of stripping the Catholic Church, which once set the agenda in Ireland, of much of its moral authority and political power.
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See it was not just the church that covered this up but the government, the government that is suppose to protect it’s citizens help in colluding the investigation and in covering this atrocity up. You see these scenarios time and time again. This was a society that kept this secret, and for those who did try to get it exposed, it was kept quite, time and time again, by those who were in a position of trust and authority.
[quote]Some 30,000 children were sent to such places over six decades, the report says, often against their families’ wishes and because of pressure from powerful local priests. They were sent because their families could not afford to care for them, because their mothers had committed adultery or given birth out of wedlock, or because one or both of their parents was ill, drunken or abusive. They were also sent because of petty crime, like stealing food, or because they had missed school.
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Again we see a target population of the poor and the powerless, who could ill afford to go up against the church.

[quote]“Punching, flogging, assault and bodily attacks, hitting with the hand, kicking, ear pulling, hair pulling, head shaving, beating on the soles of the feet, burning, scalding, stabbing, severe beatings with or without clothes, being made to kneel and stand in fixed positions for lengthy periods, made to sleep outside overnight, being forced into cold or excessively hot baths and showers, hosed down with cold water before being beaten, beaten while hanging from hooks on the wall, being set upon by dogs, being restrained in order to be beaten, physical assaults by more than one person, and having objects thrown at them.”

Some of the schools operated essentially as workhouses. In one school, Goldenbridge, girls as young as 7 spent hours a day making rosaries by stringing beads onto lengths of wire. They were given quotas: 600 beads on weekdays and 900 on Sundays.

Girls were routinely sexually abused, often by more than one person at a time, the report said, in “dormitories, schools, motor vehicles, bathrooms, staff bedrooms, churches, sacristies, fields, parlors, the residences of clergy, holiday locations and while with godparents and employers.”
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Thousands of innocent children at the hands of these animals, these abusers. The worst part is you see these patterns repeating themselves, not just in Ireland, or even just the Catholic Church.

[quote]“While horrific, widespread reports of abuse and cover-up are sadly quite common, the significance here is that a government panel is conclusively saying that the finger-pointing and blame-shifting and excuse-making of the church hierarchy is bogus,” he said in an interview.

The commission was formed in 2000, after an explosive series of radio programs and documentaries in the 1990s began exposing a terrible secret that had been kept by an entire society: the details of what went on in the children’s homes. In 1999, Bertie Ahern, then the prime minister, issued a blanket apology to the victims of the abuse. [/quote]

Exposing the terrible secret that had been kept by an entire society. See societies can keep secrets, and in this case the secret affected it’s most pure, it’s most vulnerable, but they still kept the secret and protected the system.

The creepy part as usual is you have the public outrage, you have the investigation into this, which I don’t think had any choice but to find the church guilty, but you also have what I see consistently, the church and the perpetrators getting off scott free. Their names were protected because the church, which is just oh so sorry for what happened to the children, sued the state to protect the names and identities of the abusers. Many of them will never pay for what they did to these children.

[quote]“The report is significant in that it provides a detailed anatomy of how the abuse occurred and the institutions in which it occurred,” he said in an interview. “The problem is that you spend almost 10 years and who knows how much money, and you never get to the point of saying who was responsible.”
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If the other pattern that I am use to seeing is consistent, it will also mean that over the 60 year time period, many of these men will have moved into top positions of power, because this is also a constant pattern with abusers, they don’t pay for their crimes, they move into increasingly greater positions of power, and thus they can cover up the crimes and protect themselves and their fellow abusers. It’s a consistent pattern.

This is why many things that we might call conspiracy do not come out, it is often not just the people doing the abuses that are keeping quite, but it is those around them who are aware of the abuses but who do nothing and continue to protect the system. If these people will keep this type of secret, which violated the innocent, and protected a system that was instrumental in their degradations and violations, then can we expect anymore from society when it comes to being targets of Gang Stalking or other forms of government torture and harassment?

May 23, 2009 Posted by | Abuse, Children, conspiracies, Conspiracy, Controlled society, Corruption, Gang Stalking, Gangstalking | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | Leave a comment

The Snitch Language

The snitch language.

What I really found interesting about the one handed sign language was it’s ability to unite people. I know I recently said some not nice things about the sign language, but I am human. I have my moments.

When I was first observing it however, and I could just play the role of the observer, I did not feel that way about it.

First of all I was fascinated, second I was relieved. I knew they were out on the street communicating, at first I had thought they were using the cellphones, and communicating that way, but not all had cellphones and they were still communicating.

When I finally realised that they were using a language similar to what was used in East Germany it was a relief.

Here is a sample of the East Germany Stasi language that was used.

http://www.nthposition.com/stasiland.php

SIGNALS FOR OBSERVATION

1. Watch out! Subject is coming – touch nose with hand or handkerchief

2. Subject is moving on, going further, or overtaking – stroke hair with hand, or raise hat briefly

3. Subject standing still – lay one hand against back, or on stomach

4. Observing Agent wishes to terminate observation because cover threatened – bend and retie shoelaces

5. Subject returning – both hands against back, or on stomach

6. Observing Agent wishes to speak with Team Leader or other Observing Agents – take out briefcase or equivalent and examine contents.

After realising what was happening, it was a matter of confirming the theory with some field testing.

When I could just observe it however and not be the target, it was interesting. There was something very amazing about it. Here we have all this racism, sexism, ageism, religious separation, lack of unity for all these various reasons, and here was something that knew no boundaries.

I watched Black, White, Asian, Indian, Middle Eastern, Eastern European, African, all use this language across boundaries. I watched men, woman, young and old, and there were no boundaries. I mean why do we have this separation in society, if these people can work together?

In learning some aspects of how they were communicating, I was fascinated. People that would never talk to each other on the street were passing information to each other. Goth, the Elderly, the Religious, groups you would never believe would work together, but there they were on the trains, in public, on the platform coordinating, sharing.

It destroyed the myths of this world. The hatred we buy into, why is it even necessary? If we each taught our children sign language or a simplified version of the one handed language from when they are little, there would not be language barriers, because it’s silent you could not use raised voices the same way, hateful words would be more difficult. There might even be more respect, because there would not be this separation.

The other thing that was interesting was that when people realised that I knew some of it, there was the expectation of participation. When someone passed something along, it was almost rude the times I did not respond, because I was in observer mode, and my job was to observe a new a language. To field test at other times, and to just observe.

The other amazing thing was the cultural nuances that were picked up. Depending on which area of the world that people came from some signs were passed in different ways, just slightly, or different mannerisms were used. Some had styles that were amazing. Some I just wanted to stand up and applaud, they were so good at it. In observer mode, I could admire it for it’s true potential, but in target mode, I can only hate it for it’s ability to be used as something to help track me as an animal, which I am not.

I think this would be amazing for the linguist, or the sociologist to study.

Back when I was researching this, I use to want to walk up and give people little medals for doing a good job, and others I had to stop myself from pulling aside and re-educating them. Which is funny. The target having to pull aside the pursuers. I have had to help a few from themselves however. The girl at the grocery store who was so busy watching me, that her child almost impaled themselves. The girl who was so busy trying to pass a signal she almost fell off her bike, no she was fine, but I have had a few moments.

See it’s hard to hate someone when you understand them more. Watching and observing them, gave me a better understanding of them. It made me more sympathetic, because I know not everyone chooses this path. I know not everyone likes this. I learnt a lot, and for that I am grateful. It’s so easy when you are a target to see things in black and white. They are electronically harassing me and Gang Stalking me, well they must all be evil. I have blogged before that is just not the case. In my finer moments I remember that. In my less than finer moments, I verbally lash out and tend to generalise a lot of things, and a lot of people. That’s the part where I am human, and I can’t be sorry for being human.

A lot of this is still very traumatic for me. Realising that there are forces in the world that would seek to hurt me, destroy me. Forces in the world that actually hurt and kill people. Conspiracies that are real. A society that is kept in silence, and in my opinion enslaved by this system. Those things are a shock to the system, and you do not adjust over night, I don’t know that you ever fully adjust.

I go from moments of upset, where it’s just me and my emotions my feelings, I forget that others are also suffering and being forced. It’s much easier to believe that they are willing and enjoying what they are doing to me, to other targets. Some do enjoy it, they think it’s power over another person, those I would like to get alone and talk to. I believe they would be nothing but cowards face to face. Others just don’t know what to do and just go along with it. Others are not really clear about what is happening. Some think it’s another McCarthyism, or maybe it’s just something in their workplace, others believe it’s helping the country.

There are a lot more people being electronically harassed than I would like to believe. When I think about how pervasive this is in society, I can only conclude that this is being used in some ways as a form of slavery, to control people, to teach them how to act. Behaviour modification? Wither you use a whip or electronic harassment it’s the same fu**ing thing.

What I do know is that there are good people in the world, yes it’s hard to say, some of them are part of this civilian spy force, that creeps me out most days. Not the people but the system, but the people are part of the system, and so at times it’s hard to separate the two, and still understand it all. I am so use to things being black and white. Good vs Evil, these grey areas are hard to understand.

Plus it’s like a person in a concentration camp saying not all Germans are bad, which would probably have been a correct statement in Hitlers Germany, but when you are being targeted by a system, you want to have a source where your anger can be directed. You want to have it as Informants are bad and evil, not they are people, some in a bad situation just like the rest of us, many being forced and targeted the same way. Yet many others just going along for the ride and the power trip of it all.

When I do lash out, the last two groups are where the majority of my anger is directed. Those who like this, the sociopaths who are power tripping on this and using this to get off, to hurt people.

Then there are people themselves, people who are as changing as the weather, no that would make the weather look bad to say this. People are so changing, they can be all friendly today, and then tomorrow depending on what the latest gossip is, it’s another story. Do you know what I call those, those are viewers and spectators, tuning in for the latest dirt, the latest gossip, so they can be told if they should like you today or not, who cares, and more importantly who wants to associate with people who have such limited capacity to think for themselves?

“The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing.” by Albert Einstein.

I think people like that are at times more dangerous than the ones directly hurting us, and just like dealing with workplace mobbing, I am making decided efforts to avoid such people in the long run, because it is not beneficial.

Back to the language that is used. The ways it’s used now to enslave I can not enjoy, people are unified but not for the sake of something good, like helping the homeless, or feeding the hungry, they are united to destroy the innocent and oddly enough it seems to be one of the few things that humans are good at uniting to do. Just look at Hitlers Germany.

The language they use however has also given me hope? If children learnt sign language, a very simple one from an early age, which it has been shown they can learn, think about the possibilities for a much more unified world? The hate they try to teach us to keep us apart, these two sided hegelian dialect arguments, some of them might be done away with.

http://www.babies-and-sign-language.com/

As the observer, I could appreciate and be fascinated by the language they use, and even see the potential for good. I saw unity within lines that I know would never be crossed any other way. There is nothing more funny than watching someone pretending to be homeless, passing the language to people that are dressed in suits, it breaks through the rich/poor lines, every line you could think of this language broke through. It’s really fascinating to watch, cultural lines check, gender, age, disabilities, check. If it was not a part of what was being used to pursue the targeted part of me, I could appreciate it, however since it is being used in that capacity, the part of me that likes my survival, hates it, and can not appreciate it for what it is. It’s a conflict, but it’s not hypocrisy.

It’s humanity, my humanity, a part of which really liked the black and white lines, the part that hates grey, the part that likes Good vs Evil and nothing in between. Right from Wrong is much easier this way, but this system blurs those lines, and it’s hard to be on any side, but it’s even harder to try to understand those who unfortunately are on a side that is trying to destroy you.

I think some targets get this, but I am not sure if others do.

I have changed so much. I am anti gun personally, but now I see that guns are a necessity, and people should have the right to own them.

I am deeply against all forms of drugs, but now that I have seen what the informant system is and what it does, I have no choice but to side against it, and to seek the betterment of some informants being used by the system, and to hope that some drugs get decriminalized, because I feel a greater crime is ongoing.

I believe in a multicultural society, but now I see that opposing voices are needed. I see that in a free society you must allow voices of dissent. I don’t have to agree with you, or like what you are saying, but in a free society your voices are needed, and thus some of these extreme websites I might have railed against a decade ago, I do see the need for.

I am still anti smoking, but that’s one of the few things that remains.

The research over the last few years has opened my eyes more to the world that I am living in. I never thought of myself as sheltered, I would read up on issues, and care about causes most avoided, but the true nature of the world I had no idea. It’s like what Gary Webb said about thinking that he was winning awards, because he was going out and getting the stories, how he thought he was doing everything right, but it was really that he had never done anything controversial.

http://gangstalkingworld.com/Forum/YaBB.pl?num=1230244889

[quote]Indeed, some of the writers in Buzzsaw say that, before their own experiences, they were among the scoffers. Webb writes, “If we had met five years ago, you wouldn’t have found a more staunch defender of the newspaper industry than me … I was winning awards, getting raises, lecturing college classes, appearing on TV shows, and judging journalism contests. So how could I possibly agree with people like Noam Chomsky and Ben Bagdikian, who were claiming the system didn’t work, that it was steered by powerful special interests and corporations, and existed to protect the power elite?”

But, like most of the contributors to “Into the Buzzsaw,” he did his job too well and the powers that be hurled him onto the other side of the looking glass. “And then I wrote some stories that made me realize how sadly misplaced my bliss had been,” he writes. “The reason I’d enjoyed such smooth sailing for so long hadn’t been, as I’d assumed, because I was careful and diligent and good at my job … The truth was that, in all those years, I hadn’t written anything important enough to suppress.”[/quote]

Many of us are like this, we don’t think of ourselves as controversial, but if you are the type to stand up for your rights, the rights of others, assert your voice, or you just stand out for the right reasons or even for the wrong one’s you could be a target.

You don’t think of the world this way, neither did I and that is why this place of understanding is such a journey. It does not happen overnight, I am not sure it ever happens, some days are easier than others, but there is still a part that is so sad that the world is like this, you just have to be patient with that side, love and nurture that side, and take it day by day. I really do believe that praying helps. It’s one of our best defenses and weapons.

Not much else. You are getting a weeks worth of posts all at once so enjoy them.

April 19, 2009 Posted by | activism, Awareness, Citizen Informants, Civilian Spies, Conspiracy, Cultural diversity and multiculturalism, Gang Stalking, Gangstalking, Informants, Life, one handed signals, slaves, Snitches, Social Control, society, Stasi | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | 2 Comments