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I was just following orders

I was just following orders.

This was what the Nazi’s said. Why they were able to do horrific things to their fellow citizens. They were just following orders. Well TSA agents are just following orders.

I watched the pictures below. People submitting, a child with a grown man who’s hand is passing over his leg and possibly genital area. A woman who has her hand in between another womans breast. Another person who has her hand close to another womans posterior. Then the TSA agents who are telling people to stand with their hands behind their heads, and I realize much like Nazi Germany, they are just following orders. The orders are much more mild now, but this is how it begins. You start with small commands, and then eventually you can escalate to horrific commands, and the people are just so use to doing what they are told, and following orders, that no one notices when the line get’s crossed.

In the video what starts off as a simple strip search call prank, leads to a full scale sexual assault. The insanity could have been stopped at anytime by either the victim or the perpetrator, but both were too accustomed to following orders of an authority figure.

Under normal circumstans any male in our society would know better under most circumstances to never, and I do mean never be in such close proximity to a child, and never have your hands roming below the waist in such proximity, but under these new guidelines the TSA agents are just following orders and doing what they are told. So the question is, if they are told that they must do a naked pat down someday, will they follow the orders, touch naked body parts, will they still follow the orders?

How many of these agents will be abel to step out of line follow their conscience do what they know is right and stop following these orders? If the social psychology experiments are any indication, not very many, and no matter how horrific the orders get, the compliance will continue and that is how you train up a society to go along with horrific things.

November 11, 2010 Posted by | Gang Stalking | , , , , , , , | 3 Comments

Do we want to win?

Do we want to win?

I was watching the news the other day and a reporter asked a question. He wanted to know if the war in Afganistan was winnable? Can we win, and he was told we could win, if we made it into a home game. Meaning don’t treat it as an away game, make it into a home game. I was watching that clip, and thinking, Wolf Blitzer is asking the wrong question. The question is not can we win, the question should be, do we want to win?

For me that answer is no, not at any cost. Not because I am a defeatist, not because I want the other team to win, but because I am a realist and I know the price that winning is likely to be too high. Not at the continued loss of life of the troops, not at the continued loss of moral, and democratic freedoms that I see being eroded in these democratic countries. The economic cost of the war is also not great, the monies being spent to secure these victories, could have secured a hundred small victories for those in need at home. Feeding the poor, helping the sick and homeless, but instead those monies are put into the war machines. I personally believe that that price is too high.

Do the people want to win this war? I don’t think they care to, I think what concerns the people most is getting the troops home, that’s what they really want. I don’t think they care if it’s a home game, away game, or whatever. There is no victory when the cost is so high for both sides, and the cost has been high. Not just financially, but in freedoms.

These wars began with the premises that if we don’t go in there and don’t destroy the enemy on their turf, they will destroy us. I include the U.K., Canada, and all the other allied countries in this. The problem is that Iraq was not invaded due to the 9/11 terror scare. It was very much invaded on the false premise that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, which was false, but regardless, he is gone, some troops are still there, the situation is still messy, and though battles can be fought and won, the question with the remaining war is do the people want to win?

The last time I checked the American election was won not based on can we win, but it was won on the promises of we will end this war. We will get the troops home. That is where the hearts and minds of the American people were, it was not on can we secure a victory in some far away land. The other factor is not even if a victory can be secured in some far away land, because while that battle is being fought far away, the war at home is being lost. It is being lost in freedoms and liberties. These wars were supposedly fought to secure freedoms, but if you look at these democratic countries several years later it’s hard to recognize some of the freedoms that are supposedly being fought for, when these countries are starting to resemble mini fascists states in various ways. It makes no sense to secure a victory abroad, if freedoms are lost at home.

Is the other side going to benefit from this great war? Are we really securing freedom for these people? Do these people really want these occupying forces in their land? Looking at the Iraq war, things were not great under Saddam Hussein, but several years later have things truly been made better in the long run? When all is said and done, the people have been brutalized, their spirits were broken, the women raped, children tortured, civilians killed, lives destroyed. Out of this sick and sin, they have been infected with an informant network, which will destroy the internal character of their country, the way it is destroying the internal character of these countries, and will the end results be worth it? Will the ends really justify the means, there or at home in these democratic countries?

Do the people really want to win? Soldiers are coming home from these wars, and getting into conflicts with these militarized police forces that have sprung up, they are coming back to cities that they don’t always recognize. I have read of a few different cases where men who have served abroad came home, only to be brutalized, humiliated, or killed by some of the newly militarized forces at home. Is this truly what they are off fighting for? There is no victory, there is no win, if the freedoms that are supposedly being fought for are evaporated. We can win, but at what price, and at the end of the day, do we want to win?

Iraq is being rebuilt. From this great sick and sin a great city will be spawned, but will the price have been worth it? Someday the great city of Babylon will be rebuilt and rebirthed, if rumours are correct. Will the loses be worth a true victory?

When WWII was being fought, the danger was real for many people. They knew that if the Germanic forces were not stopped, they might well lose their way of life. The threat and danger was very real for people in the U.K., and in other nations. The war was coming to those shores and if victory was not won, the way of life would change. During that time, people were engaged, the objectives were clear, and the threat was very real, and securing the victory was the only option.

Today people are not as engaged as they were in many ways. Most kids care more about their Xbox 360 than if this war will be won. Some people are so far removed from this war, that they probably have trouble remembering that there is war ongoing. The world has changed, people’s views, values and perspectives have changed, and today, I am not sure that the question is can we win? I think the question today is do we want to win?

http://157.166.255.31/TRANSCRIPTS/1006/29/sitroom.02.html

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/war_on_terror_update

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/mar/19/iraq.topstories3

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1907831,00.html

http://icasualties.org/iraq/index.aspx

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/05/us/05list.html

July 5, 2010 Posted by | 9/11, Iraq, Police State, Politics | , , , , , , | Leave a comment

State control and conformity

There is always a lot in the news about the state and their willingness to step in and take control of what we are doing, or stories about how they expect us to conform, the next three stories I hope will be of some interest to you. Unarmed man shot while handcuffed face down. http://www.mefeedia.com/entry/proof-oscar-grant-was-handcuffed-and-then-shot-by-bart-police-officer/13376256/ The first story is of a young man who was shot in the back, while face down on the ground while handcuffed. Oscar Grant and several other young men, in typical police fashion were being held and interrogated on a train platform. I understand that there had been a fight on the train, and the police had been called. If you watch the video you can see the the situation is chaotic at times, but fully manageable for trained police officers. From what the report on the video says, Oscar was cooperating with the police and he even told them, don’t shoot me, I have a kid. Yet while face down, handcuffed he was shot in the back. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAHjhtYZpX0 What really struck me about the action of the police involved was that after killing him, they just went about it as business as usual. That’s what struck me most about the videos, was the complete, dispassionate loss for a human life, but that is really what it comes down to. A lot of these young men and woman, no longer have value in the eyes of some of these officers, and thus when something like this does happen, there is a lot of visible humanity for the actions. I know that some will say the officers were in shock and that’s why they did not respond, but this is a trend that keeps getting repeated over and over again, and it’s not going anywhere anytime soon. Though many people did have appropriate reactions to this shooting, I noticed that at first a popular conspiracy forum, had responses like, well was he fully cooperating with the cops, did he resist arrest, maybe the cop thought it was a taser and not a gun, etc. The forum did later receive other appropriate responses, such as that could have been me, or this really has become a police state. Also many noted that he was hand cuffed and face down, with someones knee on his neck, so there would have been no reason to taser him. Also resisting arrest, which he wasn’t doing, does not give a police officer the right to shoot an unarmed person in the back, while handcuffed. When it comes to situations like this, we are the best defence that we have against such inappropriate actions. Because if we start to justify actions such as this, and don’t realise that no matter who we are, what sector of society we belong to, this could be us next, then we are failing ourselves as humanity. The cop who murdered him, resigned, but will there ever be any justice for what happened? Oh one more note, originally all the officers were saying that he was not handcuffed while shot. These officers are often willing to cover and lie for each other. Without this video we most likely would have heard that he was resisting arrest, maybe had a weapon, and not handcuffed. It seems that keeping a cameraphone handy might be the only way anyone can defend themselves in the future against such abuses. Little Adolf Hitler and sisters taken from home. The family in the next story caused a stir when they requested that their child’s name be placed on a birthday cake in December and walmart disapproved and would not do it. The child is named after Adolf Hitler. Yesterday the child and his two sisters were taken from their home. There has been no reason given. I only imagine that this child and family probably came to the eye of the state department more rapidly due to the media of the walmart story. If this child was not being abused in the home, then there can be no reason for the state to take a children from their home. You might not approve of the parents naming their child Adolf Hitler, or the other kids JoyceLynn Aryan Nation, etc, but unless these kids are being abused in some way by their parents, then taking them from their home was fully in appropriate. In a democratic society these parents have right to name their children their names. I do agree that there are some names that children should not be named, such as profanity, but these names do not fall into this category. The names might not be names that many in society approves of, but in a democratic society, they would still have the right to choose these names for their children. See I never fully internalized the saying, I might not agree with what you are saying, but I will defend your rights to say it. I had understood the concept, but it’s in recent times that I have internalized what this fully means. In a democratic society even if we don’t agree or approve, to some degree all dissenting voices must have the right to some degree to express those dissenting views. If this means naming your child Adolf Hitler, provided they are not abusing their child in any other way, then I don’t think the children should have been taken from their home. Eight Year Old Arrested. http://www.abcnews.go.com/print?id=6640478 [quote]The mother of an 8-year-old autistic girl who was arrested after a scuffle with her teachers said it was horrifying to watch her daughter be led away in handcuffs from her northern Idaho elementary school. [/quote] These scenarios are happening more and more, and pretty soon people will become numb to these types of situation. [quote] Spring Towry said she got to the school Friday just in time to see 54-pound Evelyn — who was diagnosed at age 5 with Asperger’s Syndrome, a high functioning form of autism — being walked to a police car with two officers at her side. “She started screaming ‘Mommy, I don’t want to go! What are batteries? What are batteries?'” Towry said. “She didn’t even know what she was arrested for.” Towry, who lives in Ponderay, said Evelyn told her that she had been refused entry into a school Christmas party that had been delayed until after the holidays because of a string of snow days, because she refused to take off her beloved “cow costume” — a hoodie with cow ears and a tail. Towry said Evelyn, who loves Spongebob Squarepants, told her she was put in a separate classroom away from the party, but when she tried to leave, the teachers told her to stay put. Evelyn did not listen, Towry said, and the adults physically restrained her. [/quote] I don’t want to see teachers have a more difficult time teaching children, but what happened to contacting the parents, and just letting the parents take care of their children, was it really appropriate to have this child arrested? http://www.aussiecynic.com/index.php/05/5-year-old-arrested-and-handcuffed-for-a-tantrum-madness/ This above story though not as brutal reminds me of the 5 year old girl who was arrested and handcuffed by 3 male police officers, because she was throwing a temper tantrum. This happened a couple of years back, but I have never forgotten it. These police state control behaviors are things that we as a society must become aware of, and continue to monitor and speak out against when necessary. If we don’t, tomorrow these situations will be you and your families, no matter what creed, race, religion, or affiliation you belong to. What happens to one, will eventually happen to all the others. This if nothing else, is what the research has shown and taught me.

January 14, 2009 Posted by | activism, Awareness, black, Children, Community harassment, control, Controlled society, Life, male, Police Corruption, Police State, society, zero tollerance | , , , , , , , , , , , | Leave a comment