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America does not torture?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/5395830/Abu-Ghraib-abuse-photos-show-rape.html

[quote]Abu Ghraib abuse photos ‘show rape’
Photographs of alleged prisoner abuse which Barack Obama is attempting to censor include images of apparent rape and sexual abuse, it has emerged.
 
At least one picture shows an American soldier apparently raping a female prisoner while another is said to show a male translator raping a male detainee.[/quote]
This article is very important. The reason it’s important is in part because it shows what happened in Abu Ghraid and in part confirms what many of already knew about the allegations of rape. There have been allegations of rape for men, women, and children. Some sites a few years back showed video of rapes, though some videos may have been false, many others are believed to have been real. This has been a disgusting and disgraceful time in American history and it’s a time I am sure many would like to forget and sweep under the rug, but if you do that, doesn’t that make you just as monstrous as Germany when they tried to cover up a lot of the Atrocities after WWII? They lied about a lot of what had happened and tried to cover it up.

I watched Obama stand before a group of Congress and declare that America does not torture.

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N24444553.htm

[quote]
“Living our values doesn’t make us weaker, it makes us safer and it makes us stronger. And that is why I can stand here tonight and say without exception or equivocation that the United States of America does not torture,” Obama said.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r23oHpgMJg

I watched them stand up and clap in regards to this speech. I think most people like and respect Obama, but to say that just hit me. When I saw the speech I was thinking does he mean right this moment as he is saying it? Does he mean they have never tortured? I couldn’t help but think about all the Targeted Individuals men, women and children that were getting burnt in their homes on a daily basis. Who are being tortured in America and other nations. I could not help but think about what I knew about the prison Camps Abu Ghraid and Guantanamo Bay. About the pictures I had seen and some of the things that had gone on their, but here was this President, someone who America listens to and I think trusts, saying that America does not torture. How do you reconcile that? I know most countries would rather keep their dark deeds hidden, it’s the nature of the beast. It took many years for them to even admit to and then finally apologize for other dark times in American history such as the Tuskegee experiments that they conducted on Black men in the south, but eventually they did apologise.

Living your values makes safer and stronger, but apparently those values involve living in a state of denial and I don’t see how that can make anyone stronger. I think it would make you far stronger to step up to the plate as a nation admit fully what had happened, no holds barred and then apologise for it, and then let the nation start the healing process. Saying that there will be no torture under your administration does not change the past, and failing the victims, and not letting their abuse and tortures be known, still hurts and I daresay tortures them on a psychological level, the same way not dealing with slavery affected the America psyche for years down the line.

Germany is in many ways just now starting to recover from their Hitler time and have pride and love again for what Germany was, I just saw and article about that and I think it’s good, because they have finally dealt with and acknowledged some of what happened during that time period. What would the world be like in America now if people denied Slavery happened or said that it was not that bad? Well many Americans are still psychologically grappling with the legacy that left behind and when people try to brush it under the carpet, some get upset and offended, well is denying or not fully confronting the events of the last several years any better? Isn’t it just as offensive to deny the extent to which torture happened? To try to brush it under the carpet?

I think America needs to heal for what happened, but I don’t think America will heal by underplaying and denying what when on, just like slavery or any of your other dark past, you have to find a way as a nation to step up to the plate, take ownership and acknowledge what happened,  then apologize and only then can you truly start to heal as a nation.

Most would like to forget what happened, but I don’t think that will make you stronger or better in the long run, it’s not a healing or a healthy mentality to have. After 9-11 you felt hurt, violated and so you lashed back, even though Iraq was not the enemy, you did what you thought would make you feel safe, but in the end violations were committed, grievous violations and to heal, that has to at some point in the American psyche has to be dealt with.

May 29, 2009 Posted by | 9/11, Abu Ghraib, Abuse, Active denial, Torture | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | 1 Comment

The Witch Hunt

Some time ago I came across a posting that concerned me.

The forum in question had started a witch hunt. The forum decided they were going to start in my personal opinion attacking other websites.

These people who many of which, may be government agents decided that they were going to go on a witch hunt of legit and some none legit websites.

I clearly started to stay away from these people after that stage.

Here is a copy of the first witch hunt in point. You can always know when these things are going to be starting, and it’s disgusting. We are getting targeted by the government, our lives are being disrupted, and if that was not bad enough, we now have potential government parasites in our midst’s trying to discredit what little we are able to do, as we try to function everyday. It is my opinion that people who try to deliberately, and knowingly destroy other innocent persons are the worst vermin. Corrupting and destroy from the inside out is disgusting and worst than what out external predators do. 

I’ve been aware of this for sometime, and I have tried to simply not feed the pigeons. To let them alone by themselves so they could pretend to peck and argue by themselves, while making sure our movements never goes forward. Now it would seem they want to take it there.
Exhibit A. I saved this for a rainy day.
[quote]
>I need your help in collecting Names and Websites that are discrediting our
>movement to bring this to an end. These people and websites that discredit the
>victims hurts you the victim and will only prolong you staying a victim.
> These people who misrepresent us Must Be Separated From the TI Community
> before the Damage is Irreversible. I want all TI’s to be aware of these people
> and websites. We want what is happening to us stopped not prolonged. Kelly
> Taylor

Trying to do this aggressively could be a much
larger project than is obvious at first glance,
Kelly.

Some disinfo sites are EXTREMELY subtle, like
an organized stalking site in which the poster
discredits by posting some good information,
while at the same time, posting photos of “perps”
doing nothing at all beyond, say, just driving along
the street or parking, and fronting silly things like
“brighting” as THE NUMBER ONE THREAT to
targets. Ooooooo … those bright lights are just
the worst torture anyone could possibly imagine!

http://www.stoporganizedstalking.org

VERY slick and professional, but leaves the
non-target visitor with the impression that all
we have to worry about is “brighting,” and that
we take pictures of cars and people doing
absolutely nothing wrong.

You don’t want to go after “sites,” but individual
pages, very methodically, very patiently, always
in the spirit of constructive criticism at first, so
as to avoid the appearance of “a crazed witch
hunt.”

This IS a worthy project, but it has to be done
page by page, statement by statement, and
not by just railling against a site as a whole.
And to maintain support of the other targets,
your work has to be seen as motivated by
a genuine desire to get the best information
out to the public.

Always talk about the information, don’t lapse
into personalities and accusations of being a
perp. Even when you feel it’s obvious. The
job is to correct the information, and nothing
more.

A long hard battle, and I congratulate anyone
who is willing to do the long hard, patient work
involved.

Eleanor White
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The same unjust attack that you used on stop organised stalking, isn’t that the same unjust attack you are using on my website? You are doing this apparently because I like things alphabetised? Disgraceful. Also I notice the stop organised stalking website is no longer online?
These methods are the Internet’s version of how the German’s went after the Jews bit by bit. I seriously find these methods disgusting. When I saw the witch hunt beginning many months ago, I really should have tried to shut you down then, before you started trying to load our websites into little Nazi trains for website extermination. Are you going to have our websites wearing a yellow stars on their opening pages?

Oh no that’s right. http://www.raven1.net/reviews/cr000002.htm

Instead you are going to have some of our legitimate websites wearing a yellow badge as approved by you. It must be nice to play judge and jury for a whole community.

When targets that don’t know any better come across these false tactics, they will just take their word for it, not knowing any better, while real targets get left in the dust, and then the only thing that get’s out there is the official spell as approved by them?

Our websites are not the reasons that journalists have stayed away. Some of our websites clearly do get requests for media interviews, and some do grant them. 

I am going to politely ask, that you and your assessment crew stay away from my website. I want nothing to do with this type of accreditation, because I think this practice is nothing than a witch hunt for legitimate people who are trying to get this exposed. The only persons who should have Bogus stamped on their forehead are people who choose to take part in this type of practise. 

The next point that I would like to draw your attention to are the search engines. They gradually are either killing search terms. Eg. 2 years ago, the Gang Stalking term on google had 1.3 million search results. I blogged about this before, because at the height of the terms popularity, the term suddenly in a matter of days, had 75,000 hits instead of 1.3 million hits. After blogging about it, the search term had gone back to normal 1.3 million hits, and now today, with the Gang Stalking term still being very popular, the hits that google bring back are 364,000. Not only that, but on some other search engines they are starting to replace more popular legit sites, in my opinion with sites that are controlled by questionable sources. Others have complained about this with 9/11 sites, UFO, conspiracy sites, etc.

This is all very worrisome at a time when I just found out that Australia is going to be monitoring their Internet the same way China does. That’s pretty scary, remember Australia is suppose to be a democratic country.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24568137-2862,00.html

[quote]
Australia to implement mandatory internet censorship

AUSTRALIA will join China in implementing mandatory censoring of the internet under plans put forward by the Federal Government.

The revelations emerge as US tech giants Google, Microsoft and Yahoo, and a coalition of human rights and other groups unveiled a code of conduct aimed at safeguarding online freedom of speech and privacy.

The government has declared it will not let internet users opt out of the proposed national internet filter.

The plan was first created as a way to combat child pornography and adult content, but could be extended to include controversial websites on euthanasia or anorexia.

Communications minister Stephen Conroy revealed the mandatory censorship to the Senate estimates committee as the Global Network Initiative, bringing together leading companies, human rights organisations, academics and investors, committed the technology firms to “protect the freedom of expression and privacy rights of their users”.
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Now you notice that along with trying to censor child pornography, they were also going to be trying to block controversial websites on euthanasia, or anorexia. Notice the recent New York Times article, trying to link specific websites in this community, to anorexia and suicide websites? Keep in mind that Gang Stalking Websites have not been researched.

Governments are trying to censor the Internet. Australia is just one starting point. Then it will be what they deem to be controversial websites, but only controversial websites. It’s the way a society that is closing down, begins to operate.  Once they get anything blocked or shut down, they will go after other websites, till they control what is seen or not seen.

If they can’t do it externally with our websites, they will try to do it Internally. The problem of course is society. Society seems to just always blindly and sheepishly sit back and let this happen.

For once, I am going to ask some of you to do the near almost impossible. Please try to wake up a little bit, before it’s too late. I think what we are doing is starting to work, but I think we have to do so in greater measure.

So far the killing of the term Gang Stalking seems to be failing. The term is now well known. However it is associated in some circles that will never get the correction as sites for paranoids. Other people know what it is, and they are supportive. I spent days getting the corrections made, because it’s too important a subject matter.

I think the attempt by Internal forces to kill the term for the time being has failed, so we should be prepared for other things.

Eg. Let’s keep an eye out in the near future for laws that go after controversial sites, and try to shut down Mind Control or other similar sites.

As you know the Gang Stalking World website has contacted the New York Times to request a correction and we await a response from them.
In the mean time, let’s stop the Internal threats from killing legit websites. We have enough to worry about without none legitimate witch hunts internally. We are already being mobbed, stalked, harassed, and bullied by external threats.

What I have been doing is if I don’t trust a website, or have reason to suspect it’s not legit. I no longer direct targets there. I remove the links from my blogs. I just try to stay away from those websites, and make sure other innocent people who might not know better stay away from those sites. What I try to do instead is highlight websites that I think are doing a good job. This also goes for blogs, or external people who are helping to further our cause, by providing prove via their own external research.

If you really have a problem with a website, and think it’s not legit, then don’t promote it, or say you don’t think it’s legit. For those who want to go on Nazi witch hunts, we are already being hunted, we don’t need to be hunted any further, not our blogs, our websites, or whatever else you are going to choose to go after in the future.

I hope those reading this, will ban with me, to see that this practice gets left where it belongs, back in the Nazi Witch Hunt files.

November 25, 2008 Posted by | Gang Stalking, harassment, Laws, NWO, society | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | 11 Comments