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I was just following orders

I was just following orders.

This was what the Nazi’s said. Why they were able to do horrific things to their fellow citizens. They were just following orders. Well TSA agents are just following orders.

I watched the pictures below. People submitting, a child with a grown man who’s hand is passing over his leg and possibly genital area. A woman who has her hand in between another womans breast. Another person who has her hand close to another womans posterior. Then the TSA agents who are telling people to stand with their hands behind their heads, and I realize much like Nazi Germany, they are just following orders. The orders are much more mild now, but this is how it begins. You start with small commands, and then eventually you can escalate to horrific commands, and the people are just so use to doing what they are told, and following orders, that no one notices when the line get’s crossed.

In the video what starts off as a simple strip search call prank, leads to a full scale sexual assault. The insanity could have been stopped at anytime by either the victim or the perpetrator, but both were too accustomed to following orders of an authority figure.

Under normal circumstans any male in our society would know better under most circumstances to never, and I do mean never be in such close proximity to a child, and never have your hands roming below the waist in such proximity, but under these new guidelines the TSA agents are just following orders and doing what they are told. So the question is, if they are told that they must do a naked pat down someday, will they follow the orders, touch naked body parts, will they still follow the orders?

How many of these agents will be abel to step out of line follow their conscience do what they know is right and stop following these orders? If the social psychology experiments are any indication, not very many, and no matter how horrific the orders get, the compliance will continue and that is how you train up a society to go along with horrific things.

November 11, 2010 Posted by | Gang Stalking | , , , , , , , | 3 Comments

TRUE PATRIOTS

wesmont87

wesmont87 (12 hours ago)

[quote]You need to stop posting these hurtful videos and comments RIGHT NOW. It’s scumbags like you that make it difficult for citizen patrol groups to track targeted criminal subjects, monitor and inspect their homes, etc. Where do you get off insulting these brave men and women who are TRUE PATRIOTS?? I have children, and I want their neighborhood to be safe for kids and decent folk from antisocial creeps like YOU!! I hope the police find you for posting this crap and let you rot in jail. [/quote]

Found the above comment on this youtube profile. Now keep in mind this might just have been some douchbag snitch trying to keep tabs and make their weekend monitoring go better. The profile page has no activity, videos watched ect.

Shy of laughing and wondering if wesmont87 has serious issues, let’s break this down.

What hurtful videos? The ones that are there to help targets?

Next accusation making it difficult law abiding citizens to do their jobs. What jobs? (for citizen patrol groups to track targeted criminal subjects, monitor and inspect their homes, etc. )

Oh that job,the one that we like to call driving to suicide, false institutionalization, false imprisonment, and mass shooting, with some gaslighting and mobbing on the side. Oh that job. My bad.

Maybe I am just overly logical, but it is not the job of informants, deputized citizens, snitches what have you to enter homes, monitor or inspect them. Maybe your rule books say otherwise, but from my delusional world view of democracy and democratic countries, that’s simply not right or legal.

The activities you mention fall into Cointelpro and Stasi type activities and should be exposed to the fullest extent of the law, maybe go back to your slave handler and check your rule books.

Also since you are monitoring and tracking these people how do you know they are criminals and that it’s not just false information? What evidence do you have? Cause if they are such criminals, why does it take years to monitor individuals and not just months?

The next accusation.

{Where do you get off insulting these brave men and women who are TRUE PATRIOTS}

Actually there is no getting off on this stuff, what a lack of imagination you have. It is however in the best interest of myself and other target to call evil for what it is. What is happening now is beyond vigilantism, it’s murder in many cases, forced suicide in others, it’s unjust victimization, and if you think calling the evil for what it is as insulting true patriots you have another thing coming. True Patriots, true citizens would be right here with me trying to expose this very evil that is trying to destroy the democracy that their ancestors worked so hard for. True Patriots would be the first in line to say that we will not stand for such unjust actions, that would be the voice of true patriots and they would be right here with me, not on the side of evil, which is the side that you are on, wither you choose to see it or not.

Next thing to ponder this person has kids. God help our kind if these kids grow up with the same mentality, if by taking away the freedom of others and destroying innocent lives, if this is how you choose to secure a future for your children, you are going about it the wrong way. The only future you will ensure for them is enslavement, such as the former East Germany. A future where free thought and speech are not allowed. If this is how you envision a safer world for your kids, you have a lot more imagining to do, or you have ever low goals.

{I have children, and I want their neighbourhood to be safe for kids and decent folk from antisocial creeps like YOU!!}

Also you know what, Gang Stalking targets have kids, many who have had to watch their kids be tortured and burnt, screaming out in pain. Ramona Lopez says her grandchild has been chipped, others have kids where they have almost killed their kids, by doing such fun things as putting water in diabetic medication. Many others would like to have kids, and families, but as long as psychopathic people like you exist they will not be able to.

Next bit from this person.

{I hope the police find you for posting this crap and let you rot in jail.}

At the rate these countries are going, this might happen in time, but while there is still freedom, there are still officers that do not agree with this garbage, I know this for a fact, they want this out as well.

So to get this straight, the country and future this person wants is a non democratic future, where dissenting idea, or unjust practices are allowed, and innocent people get jailed for pointing it out. Luckily there are still many in the world that do not think this way, and who understand that by destroying the freedom of one, you will eventually destroy the freedom of others.

Unfortunately from my research this sort almost proves to be incapable of understanding such simple truths, such simple facts. This was the case in Nazi Germany, destroy those people over there to ensure that our Fatherland is secure, and they too went about it with impunity, much to the detriment of those targeted.

Come to Stasi Germany same thing, they believed the lies of the state, they did what this person claims to be doing now, destroyed innocent lives, followed the innocent around, made sure they were disinfranchized and swore they were doing the just thing.

Come Cointelpro, same thing, those evil radicals, John Lennon, panthers, the same things, same justifications, more lives destroyed, everyone at the time thinking that their actions were just. However history has pointed the finger, tried all three time periods and labelled each as evil. We are taught to never let such things happen again, yet here we are doing a repete, and if this comment is real, hearing the same lame justifications as before, while innocent men, women and children have their lives decimated.

You and yours are the reason me and my kind can not stop, you are the reason we must continue to fight to see this new wall broken down, this new Cointelpro (the same one, different day.) exposed, and yes this unjust evil must never be allowed to happen again. TRUE PATRIOTS you will head the call, you will hear me and you will work with me, so that this evil future that is envisioned by some, where the innocent are destroyed in this way, does not happen. You will do everything that you can to see this evil time like the rest lands where it belongs, and you will help me in trying to right these wrongs. This is the side that true patriots would be on.

http://www.indigoribbon.com/Quilt/

December 13, 2009 Posted by | Gang Stalking | , , , , , , , , , , , | Leave a comment

The snitches have no clothes

I have had the chance to observe the informants recently. They are like the story, the emperor has no clothes.

See they are slaves in a system that controls them yet some imagine themselves as free citizens, empowered citizens, deputized, partners of the state. It’s the biggest lie ever.

It’s funny to watch the slaves go into overdrive to defend and protect the very system that holds them bound. Some of them really are mental in that regard, in a frenzied type way.

At one point I thought that most people hated the violations this type of system caused, I mean this is what the Stasi did to it’s citizens, but no, some love this. A generation ago, democratic countries were preaching about the evils of countries who turned their citizens into informants. Watching this system is like watching someone take a young girl, putting her out on the street corner, and watching her brag about the freedom of being a prostitute, and yet that is what I am seeing in some regards.

People that are slaves, but who are proud of their slavery, and will do what they can to defend it. Slavery for the people by the people. We would frown and look down on someone in the example above, and encourage her to end her slavery, and be mystified when she claimed to like the freedoms that came with being prosituted out, but that is what I see in some ways daily, and I am mystified by it.

I have spoken about this system before. It empowers citizens the same way the Nazi’s were empowered against their neighbours the Jews. From the side of some Germans, it was a time of community, coming together, working together, protecting the fatherland, they were helping to get rid of what they saw as the bad element the problem for all their woes. Many wanted to be part of something that was greater than themselves, and so the power, the true power is given away and exchanged for something that looks shiny and effulgent on the outside, but that is truly as dull as brass on the inside, and most citizens do not know the difference, because in this modern day society of the haves and the have nots, most people do not have, have never had, and so they simply do not know the difference.

This is what they have, this is what makes them feel connected, special, purposeful, and the same way some of the Germans worked together, formed a sense of community, is the same way these people work together, to protect the very insane system that controls them all. It’s replaced family, community and God. The system is what they worship, bowdown to, fear and give their allegence to.

Watching it up close and personal is interesting. I really do think this system has some form of mental illness. It’s funny that they try to make targets look mentally ill, but in reality this system is what is unwell, and needs a cure.

This system has more wrong with it than right, but to see those at a ground level who would defend it is truly sad. I see members of society who have so little that they will protect their own slavery, who buy into a myth that they have become a part of something special, worth fighting for and defending, but that’s a lie. From this side of the fence, I see truly insane people, who have so very little, they would fight to preserver their own slavery, because it makes them feel special, connected, powerful, it’s their larger than something.

That special feeling, that having something, and belonging that too many people in society grow up without. I know not everyone wants to be enslaved, but the longer members stay a part of this cult, I think it puts them at risk of forgetting that there was and still is something greater than this cult, this controlled system they have given themselves to.

They act so proud of what they are, yet run and hide in the shadows at the first sign of light being shown on who they are and what they do. It’s interesting. This system does not stand up to the light, how could it when it’s a system of darkness, like so many others of it’s kind, that has been seen before.

Many in this upcoming generation are growing up without, without a sense of moral right vs moral wrong, people complain about pedophile rings, and corruption, yet they roll around and take part, and are a part of the very system that allows such, and is designed to allow such to happen. Those evil things are the sacrifice to this evil system, and those who defend it are responsible in their own way. It’s like those who harass targets, they get in one harassment here or there, but they are never responsible for the whole. They spread it around enough so that their hands do not seem dirty, but their hands are dirty.

Freedom is not free, not the way many have been taught, it’s a lie and an illusion. I am learning a lot on this journey, and it’s interesting.

The first thing is that if you want change, really want change, it comes from within first, and then radiates outward. I think societies enslavement is just comfortable enough that people are willing to trade it off for what might be real freedom, true freedom, but after all what is true fredom, when many have never really experienced it?

So I say it with all due respect, but the snitches have no clothes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor’s_New_Clothes

October 22, 2009 Posted by | changing vibrations, Children, CIA, Citizen Informants, Civilian Spies, Community harassment, community mobbing, community policing, Conspiracy, control, Controlled society, crazy, Cults, Gang Stalking | , , , , , , , , , , , , , | 2 Comments

A capacity for evil

To truly feel and understand hatred.

The LORD Is My Shepherd
A Psalm of David.

The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.
2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures:

he leadeth me beside the still waters.

3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths

of righteousness for his name’s sake.
4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,I will fear no evil: for thou art with me thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.
6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.

See people think that hatred is someone saying racists, bigoted, sexist, etc words, and or maybe following through with actions and for the most part it is. However that overt hatred, it’s easy to spot and most times you can fight it and challenge it if it comes knocking at your door, but what about the covert kind, the kind that is not that subtle, the kind that is not that easy to spot, how do you recognize that kind, and how do you stop that kind, and how do you deal with it, when it might not even identify itself as such, when in fact it might identify itself as the good guy?

Well I had some fun with that recently. I got to be amongst the informant force, the joke that my life has become, wash rinse repeat, they never change. Now before I go off on a very generalized rant, I want to say that not everyone is stupid, not everyone is hateful, and there are some, that are not going along with the sheeple feed, that are not going along with hatred, for no real reason. For people like this I am grateful and your thoughts, desires give me hope, keep sending out those intentions, because the world needs them.

My insides are on burnt a bit right this minute, I am not sure what they were using this time around, but when I work up, you could feel the pulsing waves, coming from below, but also a lot of heat, what was weird is that there was a book near me and when I woke up, and felt the book, it felt hot. Usually the stuff they use, only heats up my physical being, but whatever they used now is different, designed to cause a different kind of harm. There level for inhumanity never ceases to amaze me. It’s expected, and I am not as troubled by it, they just have limited humanity to speak of. Stupid creatures that can be commanded at will, to do the bidding of others, no matter how evil or degenerate those actions, are, and when asked why it will be the same old excuse, I was just following orders.

Anyways, for people who are not ignorantly willing to hate and believe stupid lies, my thanks. For those who will embrace being corrected when they see the truth, my thanks also. For those who will venomously hate, and seek to destroy that which you know not or understand, those who would violently attack others with your thoughts, intentions and actions, I have no place in my world for you, and my desires for you are not well, my hopes for you are not well. You make the world unsafe for me and those like me. You bring no good energy, and Karmically I pray for balance to find you.

It’s funny being online I can go to many different corners of the net, and I can enter many different mind sets, ideals, beliefs, attitudes, worlds. I can find out what is behind them like never before. This access was not readily available 20 years ago, but the Internet has changed all this. I can examine the ideals of anyone from goths, extremists, feminists, hippies, the drug culture, AIDS activists, etc, etc, etc. I have a world open to me, where I can learn about the struggles of others, I can understand Opposing viewpoints. Instead of wallowing in ignorance about why people think and feel the way they do, I can go out and find out the reasons, ask the questions and find the answers. I like learning, I like understanding, it bridges the gap, and has the potential to help and heal. I would not ever have had this access, to research to understand, to help, to change for the better. For some odd reason people choose not to understand this, some would assign nefarious intentions towards my endeavours, primarily because their hearts are evil, and their minds are shallow and limited. The way they think, function, understand is so limited, that those are the only conclusions they can come to, because it matches their limited views of what they know about the world, which is not much.

I have dealt with the informant force for more years of my life than I care to recollect. When I say the informant force, I specifically refer to those who participated in my years of harassment, and hatred via workplace mobbing, street harassment, rumours, slanders, lies, ill intentions, etc. If you are not in these categories then you have no need to take offense. They are hateful, they are hate filled. They like to destroy, these are the sorts that drive people to commit suicide, they destroy families, and innocents, they have probably taken more lives over the years via their brand of hatred, then many in our society who we openly identify, call, or classify as hateful. I condemn those actions and find it to be unacceptable, but for many others this kind of hate is acceptable, the blood never touches their hand, and if it does it’s spread so thin, they hardly notice.

I was once again presently surprised to find their hatred and venom, pointed in my direction, oh there is a surprise, what else is new, what else are they good for? This time much like the others times they were wrong, but it makes no difference, as usually, when has truth ever mattered to these people? When has being wrong ever stopped these useful idiots from carrying out harm against others?

Their capacity to hate astounds me. Most of these people that I see on the street, they don’t know me, even the ones I worked with, they don’t me, except for what I reveal about myself, or some third party tells them, but how many times has that been taken and used as the truth? These people like to hate, it’s point, click, and hate to these people, just tell them where, and who, no other form of critical thinking is needed. It doesn’t matter if it’s true, logical, correct, or accurate. My entire life, these are the hateful things that I was taught to fight against, but I am finding the hate where I least expected it, from the very people who should know better but don’t. There vibrational levels are so low, when I am around them. Now that mine are coming back online, I can understand a lot better the true challenges inherent, with trying to wake people up, and get them to see the truth. Via the snitching friends network, these people are in touch with each other, they know or I should say, they think they know all about you, I had someone threaten me via a skit, oh not just me, but my family. You psychotic fu**ing idiots. Now tell me who the hateful ones are?

I will thankfully never understand these people if I live to be a thousand, and considering I now fully believe that we come here, and then we continue on after we leave here, and then are reborn once more, that says a lot. t. They are the same now as they have always been, and they do not change. All that changes are the physical forms they take. But the mentality, the capacity to hate, does not change or diminish. I am hoping the world can wake up and see that we are about to repeat history in an unprecedented manner, but I am less hopeful. Along with the changes that are happening in our society, the other dangers that I am trying to wake people up to is themselves, and their inherent capacity for evil, and their inability to see it when it’s about to rear it’s ugly head again in fake righteous indignation, and destroy and seek the blood of those it deems worthy. In plain English these people like to hate, they like to believe that they are on the side of good, they will believe and swallow anything that they are told. They don’t learn, they don’t change, and so history will likely repeat. That is a frightening prospect, but if they can not be awakened, then this path will not change. How can you awaken minds that are choosing to be hateful, to not understand, to hate where they are pointed, without reason, without justification, without consciousness? I don’t even know the answer to that question, but history tells me that you can’t, and from what I have seen those who would attempt to try have consistently been met with their venom. Crucified, sacrificed, etc.

The physical appearances are different this time around, but the roles being played out are the same. The baiting of people, the lies, the rumours, the slander, it’s all the same. The very real possibility that we are about to repeat is very high. You have an informant force, that is connected like no other time in history. Yet the ignorance is just as great, if not worst. I begin to believe that there must of been those in other times who saw the capacity early on, and who also tried to make others aware, I imagine that they were also ignored by the masses.

The human mindset when it seeks to hate and destroy goes out in one big wave, and it’s constantly repeating.
Witch trials, Inquisitions, Nazi Germany, The Stasi, McCarthyism, to a lesser degree, but it’s the same capacity, and the same desire, this need to feed and they pick a target, and begin to seek out and try to find ways to devour it’s flesh, human sacrifice is what these people know and understand, then and now.

My time spent learning has been interesting. The methods also do not change that much, the methods used for destroying a target, making them appear to be less then human, making them into objects, things that can be destroyed. People are so willing to walk a mile for the destruction of the innocent, everyone loves a good sacrifice, but they would hardly take one step to save each others. They feel justified and righteous, but what I saw reflected was people who would delight, find glee, seek and desire the destruction of others. No remorse or repentance. What I saw in them, is reflected back here, and like a mirror, they will not like what they see or read, but at least this will be the truth. People’s ignorance, is one of the most inherent dangers the human species faces.

These people also do not welcome truth in anytime period either.

Moving on with the things that leave me hopeful. I have talked about the bad stuff, and now I will move on to the good stuff. In trying to find ways to awaken people, so that they will not take this path again, I have observed many communities across the net. I am constantly trying to find out if awareness is spreading, is understanding of this time being gained, or do people remain as blissfully ignorant as I was about the time that we are in? What I have observed is interesting. The government shrills are hard at work, I see them in many ways pushing an agenda, posting this idea hear, this thought here, trying to influence how people think, and trying to lead the discussions in this or that direction on some of these forums. Walking down a path that might lead to truth. They are hard at work and doing a good job. Websites that I expect to be helping to wake people up surprisingly are not. I have watched one site, go from extremely aware members, to either mostly shrills, or they are attracting really dumbed down people, and that is always dangerous. As the New York plot has shown us, when people are not very smart, they can be manipulated and used.

Others sites I have been surprised, one website where I was expecting to find hate, I have found something else. Sure you have people with hateful attitudes, ideals, separate from my own, that was expected, but then you also have people that have very aware attitudes. Yet within the spectrum, you have people who see the time period for what it is, the capacity for history to repeat, but on a different scale. Who understand the police state and the formation that is happening. You get a lot of what was expected and anticipated, but on an unexpected note, you also have voices that see the time unfolding and dear I say it, are trying to alert others around them. This is not what I expected to come across in those neck of the woods, but an awareness capacity is there. I have been looking for hope, for a sign that we can stop this time period from happening again, and I find it in the most surprising and unexpected places. When you delve past the expected and overt, there is the unexpected and aware.

It’s almost like the people who think that they are not hateful, and who are think they are creating a better world are the ones who are helping to destroy others. They don’t see that their actions are covertly hateful. Where the other group, they understand that they are not favored in society, they understand that in many circles they are hated, and not respected, but yet they some also have an understanding of the time that is coming. That light and awareness was not what I expected to find, but I did.

Is my thinking warped, am I off my rocker, no? There is more to this battle than flesh and blood. There is a spiritual side, with vibrations, and human consciousness, things that can’t be explained at the outset, but go a long way towards making a difference in the human outcome. I don’t expect most people to try to understand this aspect, they are happy with what they can see on the surface and I will leave it at that. Jesus for his time was criticised for being a friend to sinners and publicans, so I think I am in good hands.

There is so much negative energy being generated within the informant force, the same kind that contributed to things like the witch trials, and Inquisitions, Nazi Germany, Stasi Germany, McCarthyism. Those people in those times, felt righteous in their actions, they used the same flawed logic, the same rumour mongering and they also destroyed their innocent victims much in the same way that this society does. Where the witch trials burnt people at the stake, this society just eats away at a person till they are destroyed in a different manner. Less blood on the hands, but it the same results, and the blood is sacrificed once more.

If nothing else in this world I want to take the time to understand those things which I can. Most of my life I wondered how, how could Hitlers Germany have happened, how could people have gone along with it? Why did they not see the true evil of their actions? The books could not teach me, only the human experience could teach me, and I am once more made whole, and connected. Life is consciousness, awareness, it’s so much more than the flesh and blood we see, but most of our lives are lived thinking that there is little else.

The world has not ceased to amaze me. Where I once thought I would find understanding, and awareness, I have found stupidity, ignorance, and intolerance. I have found covertly hateful actions that are unfathomable, but that I encounter on a daily basis. (Again this is not a blanket statement, within the informant force, I find people who give me hope, and who make me remember why I want to help.) Where traditionally I would expected to find nothing but hate, I have found that, but I have also been pleasantly surprised to find awareness, intelligence in some regards, and a bit of hope that this can still be stopped, that this path may not be walked once more.

What I do know is that is an intelligence in the universe, a consciousness, a will a capacity, and when we can tune into that, when we are not prevented, we begin to see and understand the world in many different capacities. Life is about experience, learning, feeling? As humans we have an incredible capacity for good, but we also have an amazing capacity for evil, and for destroying each other and for doing unspeakable, unfathomable things to each other, then walking away and covering them up, as if nothing happened. Humans are funny that way, but to try to understand them, is interesting.

What I do know, if we had a greater threat than ourselves, eg. project Blue Beam, alien attack, etc, we would learn to work together. We would learn to look past our differences, and see each other as one race, one people, maybe not everyone, but most people, it would be us against them. Humans are never as cooperative, as when there is a war or threat involved, a fight. So you get wars on drugs, and terror. They are very effective when pointed towards a common enemy, a common goal, a greater good, even if it’s based on a lie. That’s why there are always divisions, as long as they have someone to hate, or to focus their differences on, they have this amazing capacity to work together. War makes strange bed fellows. Uniting rich and poor, black and white, men and women, different politics and religions, different classes, because then people for a time forget about the minor differences, realise that we are all one, and focus on the greater enemy, and those are the times, human corporation it seems can be achieved. Don’t think that those who would enslave humanity are not aware of this little flawed logic in our history.

At present the vibrational energy, the normal stuff that David Icke and other like him talk about is at a low point. If we can bring that back up, then we might stand a chance. One thing that I understand about Gang Stalking is that it is designed to bring this energy down to it’s lowest common denominator. Those around the target in a sense feed off of this. Anyways, I am going to continue to do what I came here to do, for as long as I can. I will remain prayerful and hopeful, because it’s the only thing that I know for sure that works, it might take time, but if you are consistent it can work. I will pray for light where there is darkness, light/love where there is hate, and understanding where there is ignorance. If this time does come once more, than at least I know I have done my best. I did try.

June 2, 2009 Posted by | activism, Awareness, Citizen Informants, Civilian Spies, Conformity, Controlled society, East Germany, Fascism, Gang Stalking, Informants | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | Leave a comment

Obedience to authority

Many people wonder why these informants go along with this? Why would anyone go along with causing the suicide of their fellow citizens, or enacting cruelty on someones cats, dogs, kids, family, property etc? Why would you knowingly go along with a practice that many would consider to be evil?

The answer is obedience to authority. As long as an authority figure is giving the orders, experiments have shown that most people will go along with whatever is being ordered, even if those orders are to inflict pain on another human being.

Let’s start with the Milgram experiments.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mst1h31daV4

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

[quote]Ordinary people, simply doing their jobs, and without any particular hostility on their part, can become agents in a terrible destructive process. Moreover, even when the destructive effects of their work become patently clear, and they are asked to carry out actions incompatible with fundamental standards of morality, relatively few people have the resources needed to resist authority.[4]

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As part of the experiment a stranger off the street is asked to shock an individual as part of a learning or behaviour modification experiment. The person doing the shocking is told that this will help the person to learn the answers to the question. The person being shocked has agreed to the experiment.

The person giving the shocks is giving a test shock of the lowest voltage to see what the pain is like. It’s not pleasant. They are told that if the person fails to answer the question, they are to increase the voltage and to keep shocking the person till they get the answer correct.

The person giving the answers starts to get the questions wrong, they are asked to keep going by the person in authority. The person answering the questions, starts to scream out in pain, sometimes even screaming, my heart, my heart.

Many times the person giving the shock wants to stop what they are doing, but they are told don’t pay it any mind we have to keep going, and so they are goaded on by the experimenter to the end of the experiment. 65% of those in the studied continued to the very end of the voltage metre.
Now imagine you are an average citizen, you are asked to become an Informant by the state, country that you love. At some point you realise that what you are doing is wrong and that people are being harmed. Let’s say you come across a Gang Stalking website, and realise what you are taking part in. How can you stop?

First you are bound by a gag order, so you can’t say anything. Second if you go to the police, local authorities, they are taking part, so you can’t go there, human rights organizations, the same thing. Since becoming an Informant you realise that this is systemic and that the majority of your community is in some way taking part. What do you do where do you turn?

You can ask to not take part, but many people are afraid of being targeted themselves the same way, experiencing the same sort of harassment. There is a real cult like mentality about what is happening, even if most people do not identify it as such, so how would you get out, much less help the target?

In many cases they can’t, and some of them are as trapped as we are. Either get the punishment or give the punishment. Not a great choice. This is not true for all of them, some are just really lowlifes and happy to go along with this, and would report anyone not following suit.

Within the system you can try to hint to the target about what is happening, try to help expose what is happening. Don’t allow yourself to feel or become powerless, keep thinking, keep finding ways, try to keep feeling. If you let the stress of the situation overwhelm you, a part of you disassociates emotionally, and you became biddable, capable of not much but following orders. 
How quickly can this shift come about, in a really short space of time. The Milgram experiment happened within an hour or two.
The next experiment happened over a few days.

The Stanford Prison Experiment.

http://www.prisonexp.org/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment

The scary part about this, is that thy knew in advance that they were part of an experiment, they were paid for it, they agreed to it and everything.
The experiment was suppose to last 2 weeks, but had to be ended after six days. One group of students were assigned to the role of prisoners, another to the role of guards.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0jYx8nwjFQ

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As the experiment proceeded, several guards became progressively sadistic. Experimenters said that approximately one-third of the guards exhibited genuine sadistic tendencies. Interestingly, most of the guards were upset when the experiment concluded early.

Zimbardo argued that the prisoner participants had internalized their roles, based on the fact that some had stated that they would accept parole even with the attached condition of forfeiting all of their experiment-participation pay. Yet, when their parole applications were all denied, none of the prisoner participants quit the experiment. Zimbardo argued they had no reason for continued participation in the experiment after having lost all monetary compensation, yet they did, because they had internalised the prisoner identity, they thought themselves prisoners, hence, they stayed.
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The prisoners (students pretending to be prisoners) started to riot, the cops (students pretending to be cops) started to get brutal with them. Made them do all sorts of sick and sadistic things. Tried to get some to turn into snitches, one prisoner faked being crazy to get out, they turned on each other in some cases, and just fell in line with obeying authority, in most cases. The person conducting the experiment actually thought he was a warden, he got so caught up in the role.

[quote]In psychology, the results of the experiment are said to support situational attributions of behavior rather than dispositional attribution. In other words, it seemed the situation caused the participants’ behavior, rather than anything inherent in their individual personalities. In this way, it is compatible with the results of the also-famous Milgram experiment, in which ordinary people fulfilled orders to administer what appeared to be damaging electric shocks to a confederate of the experimenter.[/quote]

The experiment at the time was used to help better understand the psychological changes that prisoners and their jailers go through. Later it was used to help explain the situation at Abu Ghraib with the prisoner abuses.

 

The Strip Search Prank Call
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strip_search_prank_call_scam
This experiment was anything but. Because a crank caller pretended to be an authority figure. A Police officer, average people were willing to carry out horrible actions on innocent people.

[quote]The strip search prank call scam was a series of incidents occurring for roughly a decade before 2004. These incidents involved a man calling a restaurant, claiming to be a police detective, and convincing managers to conduct strip-searches of female employees. Reports of over 70 such occurrences in 30 U.S. states finally led to the arrest and charging of David R. Stewart, a 37-year-old Florida corrections officer.[/quote]
These are a few of the incidents that occurred in the wake of these phone calls.

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A call to a McDonald’s restaurant in Hinesville, Georgia resulted in a janitor performing a body cavity search on a 19-year old cashier.[5]
A 17-year-old customer at a Taco Bell in Phoenix, Arizona was strip-searched by a manager receiving this kind of prank call.[6]

On Nov. 30, 2000, the caller persuaded the manager at a McDonald’s in Leitchfield, Kentucky, to remove her own clothes in front of a customer whom the caller said was suspected of sex offenses. The caller promised that undercover officers would burst in and arrest the customer the moment he attempted to molest her, said Detective Lt. Gary Troutman of the Leitchfield Police Department.[7]

On May 29, 2002, a girl celebrating her 18th birthday — in her first hour of her first day on the job at the McDonald’s in Roosevelt, Iowa — was forced to strip, jog naked and assume a series of embarrassing poses, all at the direction of a caller on the phone, according to court and news accounts.[8]

On Jan. 26, 2003, according a police report in Davenport, Iowa, an assistant manager at an Applebee’s Neighborhood Grill & Bar conducted a degrading 90-minute search of a waitress at the behest of a caller who said he was a regional manager — even though the man had called collect, and despite the fact the assistant manager had read a company memo warning about hoax calls just a month earlier. He later told police he’d forgotten about the memo.[9] [/quote]

 

The callers downfall came when he was able to get one of these sheeple to sexually assault a teenage girl over the phone. All the while giving the instructions. She complied, because she was scared, frightened and an authority figure was on the phone giving instructions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFXeXK3szOk

http://www.mahalo.com/Louise_Ogborn_Video

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The final prank call in this scheme was made to a McDonald’s restaurant in Mount Washington, Kentucky on April 9, 2004. According to assistant manager Donna Summers, the caller identified himself as a policeman, ‘Officer Scott’, he described an employee whom he said was suspected of stealing a customer’s purse. Summers called 18-year-old employee Louise Ogborn to her office and told her of the suspicion. Following the instructions of the caller, Summers ordered Ogborn first to empty her pockets, and finally to remove all her clothing except for an apron, in an effort to find the stolen items. Again following the caller’s instructions, Summers had another employee watch Ogborn when she had to leave the office to check the restaurant. The first employee, 27 year old Jason Bradley, whom she asked to stay there refused to after he was on the phone with the caller, so she phoned her fiance Walter Nix, asking him to come in to ‘help’ with the situation. [10]

According to Ogborn, after Summers passed off the phone to Nix, he continued to do as the caller told, even as the caller’s requests became progressively more bizarre. A security camera recorded Nix forcing Ogborn to remove her apron, the only article of clothing she was still wearing, and to assume degrading positions, such as standing on a chair and getting on all fours. When Ogborn refused to obey the caller’s instructions, Nix hits the 90 lb Ogborn on the buttocks several times creating painful red welts, and at one point he does this for 10 minutes. At the caller’s request, Nix then threatens to beat Ogborn again and forces Ogborn to kiss him and then perform oral sex on him. Ogborn says at the point of sexual assault she was scarred for life.[11] The tape showed that Summers re-entered the office several times and dismissed Ogborn’s pleas for help, a statement which Summers denies.

When another employee was asked to take part and objected, Summers decided to call the store manager, whom the caller claimed to have on another phone line. She then discovered that the store manager had not spoken to any police officers, and that the call had been a hoax. A quick-thinking employee dialed *69 to determine that the caller had called from a supermarket pay phone in Panama City, Florida. Summers then called police, who arrested Nix and began an investigation to find the caller. [/quote]
The above scenario is really sick and hard to believe that something like that could happen, mush less that similar circumstances happened at least 70 times prior to this incident, but it’s true.

Other events show us that people are willing to kill upon request, even innocent woman, children and the elderly, while others are not.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHk4TGWx0ZM

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the My Lai massacre where the US army in Vietnam slaughtered 500 unarmed civilians, many women and children.

Some victims were sexually abused, beaten, tortured, maimed and mutilated.

Three U.S. servicemen who made an effort to halt the massacre and protect the wounded were sharply criticized by US Congressmen, received hate mail, death threats and mutilated animals on their doorsteps. Only 30 years after the event were their efforts honored.

American media first claimed 100 had been killed in a fierce fire fight.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_Massacre

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Charlie Company landed following a short artillery and helicopter gunship preparation. The soldiers found no enemy fighters in the village on the morning of March 16. Many suspected there were NLF troops in the village, hiding underground in the homes of their elderly parents or their wives. The U.S. soldiers, one platoon of which was led by Second Lieutenant William Calley, went in shooting at “suspected enemy position”. After the first civilians were killed and wounded by the indiscriminate fire, the soldiers soon began attacking anything that moved, humans and animals alike, with firearms, grenades and bayonets. The scale of the massacre only spiraled as it progressed, the brutality increasing with each killing. BBC News described the scene:

“ Soldiers went berserk, gunning down unarmed men, women, children and babies. Families which huddled together for safety in huts or bunkers were shown no mercy. Those who emerged with hands held high were murdered. … Elsewhere in the village, other atrocities were in progress. Women were gang raped; Vietnamese who had bowed to greet the Americans were beaten with fists and tortured, clubbed with rifle butts and stabbed with bayonets. Some victims were mutilated with the signature “C Company” carved into the chest. By late morning word had got back to higher authorities and a cease-fire was ordered. My Lai was in a state of carnage. Bodies were strewn through the village.[12] ”

More victims at My Lai. Photo by Ronald L. HaeberleDozens of people were herded into an irrigation ditch and other locations and killed with automatic weapons[13]. A large group of about 70 to 80 villagers, rounded up by the 1st Platoon in the center of the village, were killed personally by Calley and by soldiers he had ordered to fire. Calley also shot two other large groups of civilians with a weapon taken from a soldier who had refused to do any further killing.

Members of the 2nd Platoon killed at least 60-70 Vietnamese men, women, and children, as they swept through the northern half of My Lai 4 and through Binh Tay, a small subhamlet about 400 meters north of My Lai 4.[1]

After the initial “sweeps” by the 1st and the 2nd Platoons, the 3rd Platoon was dispatched to deal with any “remaining resistance”. They immediately began killing every still-living human and animal they could find, including shooting the Vietnamese who emerged from their hiding places, and finishing off the wounded found moaning in the heaps of bodies. The 3rd Platoon also rounded up and killed a group of 7 to 12 women and children.[1]

Since Charlie Company had encountered no enemy opposition, 4th Battalion, 3rd Infantry Regiment, was moved into its landing zone between and attacked the subhamlet of My Khe 4, killing as many as 90 people. U.S. forces lost one man killed and seven wounded from mines and booby traps.[1] During the next two days, both battalions were involved in additional burning and destruction of dwellings, and in the mistreatment of Vietnamese detainees.

Most of the soldiers had not participated in the crimes, but neither did they protest or complain to their superiors.[14]
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At the end of the day what can really be said about these incidents are occurrences? Why are some people driven by a higher authority, a greater code of conduct than others?  Why are some not willing to go along with this, when others just fall in line, or stand helplessly by and let these atrocities happen? Why do some decline to become Informants for the system while others just accept? Why do some just go along with injustice and corruption, while others turn away from all appearances of evil?
Why do some question, while others don’t?

There are a variety of reasons, many people are culturally engineered or programed to obey authority, many have never been in a similar situation before and their survival instinct is to comply, because everyone else is going along with it. Humans for the most part are social creatures and very few have the capacity to stand on their own, or be excluded from society, friends, family, neighbours and if the corruption, or atrocity is systemic, most will just fall in line with what is happening, just like in Nazi Germany.

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