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Hal Turner vs Julian Assange

Hal Turner vs Julian Assange

Now I am hearing a lot about Julian Wikileaks and that he could not be a disinfo site, cause now he is allegedly going to face charges, but it’s not necessarily true.

There was a shrill that worked for the government for years and who was on the payroll from the start, he was harassed a lot, and even went to jail, but he was a shrill the whole time.

See it’s nice to think that things should be painted in black and white, and that we would know the good guys from the bad guys but we often don’t. The thing to do is to start to look for identifiable patterns that help you to distinguish the one from the others.

Now I have no diffinative proof that Julian is a shrill, but I will say that he met a lot of the points patterns that point to that, even with the current arrest.

Now as many know in my research into Gang Stalking I have researched some of the extremist communities, and that is where I first heard about Hal Turner. Some for years had thought that he was a shrill, some even after the arrest, and his confession of being a government shrill still championed him.

During his time he did a lot of good, remember he was working for his assigned cause, but he was also helping set up people and give tips to the feds. So on the one hand he would hold rallies and vigils for people. Bring cases that would normally not get attention attention that they needed, for some he was seen as a leader, and a voice for his community. Other thought he was a loud mouth and a bit crazy.

What always amazes me about this type is their ability to raise funds, and have a wide array of sheeple singing their praises. There are other points that happen, but I am going to keep some of those to myself.

What is now known about Hal Turner is that he was a government informant and part of what he was hired to do was to spy on many of those in the community he claimed to represent. He seemed to be on the surface performing one function, but in the background he was performing a different function.

What people have to remember is this Hal Turner was a shrill, the handler and some in the FBI knew this, a lot of other people did not know this, and thinking that he was legitimate acted accordingly. What I believe I have discovered is that these people are often given an assignment. I don’t think that they even know who each other are, but they likely figure it out in time. Each does what they are assigned to do, be it post information, push a subject into the publics interest, etc. They go about their day to day lives, and most are none the wiser as they carry out a duel agenda.

http://www.northjersey.com/news/crime_courts/Records_show_feds_used_ultra-right_radio_host_for_years.html

For more than five years, Hal Turner of North Bergen lived a double life.

The public knew him as an ultra-right-wing radio talk show host and Internet blogger with an audience of neo-Nazis and white supremacists attracted to his scorched-earth racism and bare-knuckles bashing of public figures. But to the FBI, and its expanding domestic counter-terror intelligence operations in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks, Turner was “Valhalla” — his code name as an informant who spied on his own controversial followers.

For the record Hal Turner is now sitting and rotting in jail, but for years he worked for them faithfully, pushing the edges of what he could get away with. He had watch dog organization on his tale, which may or may not have been a part of the subterfuge, and many people really disliked him for the views he sprouted, he also caused a great deal of controversy, got a lot of media play, and the whole time he was working for them. So it’s all very highly possible.

But the center of the court battle will likely be the story of Hal Turner and his FBI connections, which began in 2003 with the Newark-based Joint Terrorism Task Force, and continued on and off until this year.

Rumors of Turner’s FBI work surfaced two years ago after unknown Internet hackers electronically broke into his Web site and found e-mails between Turner and an FBI agent. Turner never acknowledged his FBI role until after his arrest in June — and then with a mix of anger and chagrin.

“Imagine my surprise,” he wrote in one of several letters from jail to The Record, “when agents from the very FBI that trained and paid me came to my house to arrest me.”

 

All across the internet these people have set up little Hal Turners, they are usually the one’s getting the attention, media play, and they are the ones the sheeple follow like the pied piper in many cases. Very rarely does anything get through that is really pure and clean. These fake messiahs are not all bad, they are the only way that some information seems to reach the public. I use some of their outlets when I can. I like to think some of them occasionally pull and tug at their leashes, but I think at heart most of them know who and what they serve, and thus a lot of the Internet is controlled, more than we know.

If Julian is not a shrill, then I wish him all the best, but based on a lot of things that I have seen, I am going to play it very cautious with this one and see what develops further.

December 8, 2010 Posted by | Above top secret, Awareness, CIA, Conspiracy, control, Controlled society | , , , , , , , | 1 Comment

Handmaidens of the New World Order

I set out trying to find out what was happening to the Gang Stalking Community.

Why were we being followed around? How could they track targets from country to country? Why were Cointelpro and Stasi like tactics being used on average citizens to systemically destroy their lives?

I thought I was going to find something easy to fix, but what I found is far more widespread.

Under the same pattern that has repeated itself throughout history, I found that the state has found a way to once again convince the good people of the society that they are doing God’s work, or being good citizens, by systemically destroying the undesirables in society.

You are cleansing your societies of homeless, mentally ill, perverts, drug users, dealers, whoever is on a list and whoever you are told to destroy. You once again felt empowered, in control in charge. The power that had been taken away from you was back in your hands once again. You were doing the right thing, it was a not in my back yard mentality to rid your communities and societies of the filth and the evils infecting it, but somewhere along the lines, you have unwittingly become the monsters in the closet, that you sought to remove from amongst you. You have unwittingly become the handmaidens of the New World Order.

Almost every shift in history that has happened, first had an informant force. Under the guise of this program, we now have such an extensive force of informants, but if the reports from targets are true, we are well on our way to having an international informant force. Citizens who use a one handed sign language the same way the Stasi did, and pretty much for the same purpose.

For along with the undesirable, you are helping to remove those undesirables the state does not want in our societies. You are helping to remove the outspoken, the whistle-blowers, the aggressive, those who don’t fit into this system, your future leaders, the free thinkers, those who question. You are removing those 1 in 20 who would sound the alarm, write those controversial stories, be outspoken and tell the state where to go, and where to stick it. Those types are easy to spot in the workplace, schools and community, and those types ask the questions that should have been asked a long time ago, but are not. Those types challenge this system and are being removed, disenfranchised, eliminated for their efforts.

Don’t get me wrong, I am sure in the beginning, pedophiles were allowed to feed on the innocent, violent offenders were allowed to commit acts of violence, and much like in V 4 Vendetta, this created a problem. It created fear, but not to worry, your government had the perfect solutions for you. They would give you lists of people, those undesirable amongst you that you should protect your society from and unquestioningly, you would go after them, like a vengeful plague, and remove them from amongst you. Convinced of the righteousness of what the state told you to do, you proceeded in that vain, without question and with impunity.

I don’t doubt that there are bad people in society, people who do really evil things, that we would like to have advanced warnings for, but just like programs of the past, this is also being used heavily to get rid of people you are going to need, or would have needed for a revolution/rebellion. People on forums keep asking where are our leaders? We have this intrinsic sense that there amongst us should be those that are smarter, capable of organizing, telling the rest of us what to do, how to get out of this mess? I am sure there are and you know where to find them? Look for them in the mental wards, jails, the homeless, disenfranchised, and in the morgues. That is where your leaders and future leaders are ending up.

At first it seemed weird that programs like bullying, mobbing, and Gang Stalking targeted specific kinds of people, but that now makes perfectly good sense.
http://gangstalkingworld.com/Forum/YaBB.pl?num=1205738832/0

The order that is coming into play, will systemically remove this sort from every community, and what will be left, will be a highly biddable population. These leader types are easy to spot and target, they are outspoken, they in a natural setting would rise to the top, but often they are mobbed out of work, set upon, and under systems such as Gang Stalking, become poor, disenfranchised, end up in jail, mental wards, committing suicide, mass murder, or being pinpointed as undesirables to be removed.

We saw this with the Civil Rights Movement, the systemic destruction of the Panthers and others who would go against this system. Ruby Ridge, Waco. I kept asking throughout the research, why have no significant movement or leaders arisen since that time? What’s happened to them? Well if anyone remembers many from that time were systemically eliminated, some are still in jail, on death row, fugitives from their own countries. The history of groups such as the panthers is very illuminating. How the state deals with dissidence, and how it’s continued to since that time, to ensure that now become too influential, how it fosters, and nurtures false leaders who are then consistently presented to the people. False movements. When I did the research, I found many of the similar things happening amongst the various groups, be it extremists, conspiracy theorists, AIDS dissidents, etc. Disinfo, people hired by the state, agents, those with an agenda, legit people being discredited, demonized, murder, assassinations, suspected assassinations.

The influential in our society that rise seem to never last for long. Not to get into conspiracies, but Princess Diana was just coming into her own when she meet that terrible car accidents, her campaign for landmines and anything else she did in the future would have had a pretty big impact on society, most likely in a positive way. What’s interesting about Diana is that her image in the U.K. press had become somewhat bad before her death, and it had been rumoured she might even be planning to leave the U.K. She was often hounded by the media, at times in disrespectful ways that did not suit someone of her stature, and then the car accident happened, which she predicted ahead of time, and that was that.

Micheal Jackson King of Pop was coming back in his own, and he was a very influential person, who had a large and diverse following, he felt that there was a conspiracy against him, and from what I have researched, I agree. Anyways he passed away at a time when he might have been able to influence a large population of people, who needed guidance.

Accidents, mishaps, mysterious deaths, whistle-blowers, scientists, the inquisitive, outspoken, it goes hand in hand, and most don’t notice that these sorts are being removed and cleaned from our society.

The handmaidens of the New World Order with their good intentions, who have been lied to in some cases are at it again. In order to save themselves from the evil terrorists, that hate their freedoms, many have given up their freedoms. Soon your minds will be read at airports, and maybe other places, naked scanners are now going to be mandatory. People are being arrested for mind crimes, crimes that they might do. Forced mental exams. Little by little this planned system is revealing itself, and those who would stand in it’s way, are being eliminated by hook or by crook.

http://gangstalkingworld.com/Media/2010/01/airports-could-get-mind-reading-scanners/

http://gangstalkingworld.com/Media/2010/03/pre-crime-policing-david-pyles/

That’s how a take over can be happen. It can be done in the open with blood shed, it can be done with force, this attempt has been made in America before, but failed, or it can be done from the inside out, slowly and insidiously without ever firing a single bullet.

http://www.thehiddenevil.com/plot.asp

Lot’s of death, but very little blood shed. The enemies are quietly being removed from every community, a nice little house cleaning is happening. The outspoken are being silenced, the real truthers being removed. Anyone with influence who is not onboard will be removed before their influence can become too great, and people are consistently feed a stream of false leaders, and prophets, but somewhere inside we remember what real leaders should be like, and we long for them.

The problem remains those in charge understand something essential, they understand human nature, human history, and they understand how to manipulate it, influence it, control it, keep it bottled up. They know how to work it towards their will, and they are succeeding. We have had some good and vital awakenings with the Internet, but as those internet freedoms are slowly being bottled up again, we sit passively watching once more. The awake seemingly not enough to make a difference which is not true, cause all it takes is one to make a difference, but that one never quite seems to make it to the top, the true leaders never seem to quite rise to where they need to be.

When I was doing research into the extremist community, I looked at how Grant Bristow and Wolfgang Droege formed a party in Canada. It was one of the biggest of it’s kind, and did very well, very influential. Only one problem Mr Bristow was a paid agent from the start, working for a Canadian Intelligence agency. Yet under the combined leadership, the group they formed was one of the most influential. After Bristows cover was blown, and Drogue did somemore time in jail, he was not able to come out and be effective. In fact he found himself jobless, and according to many online sources it’s been implied that he eventually ended up working for the police as an informant. He also sold drugs from his home. Oddly enough Mr Droege was shot by a Targeted Individual, who felt that Mr Droege was responsible for his surveillance and gaslighting that he was experiencing. Strange world. The point is however, though I don’t agree with Droege’s views, when I did research him, I believe he was sincere in his views and genuinely wanted to do what he felt was right for his community, so why did he not rise to the top on his own? Why was he not supported after leaving jail? Why was he left so disenfranchised that his fate was to join forces with the police, selling drugs to survive?

https://gangstalking.wordpress.com/2009/06/05/droege-the-right-and-the-system-in-between/

Most will see the above example and say, oh but he was an extremist who cares, but it’s not just happening to this group, and we should all care, because it’s happening to all groups in society. The real groups, leaders often struggle for bread and butter, while people like the Hal Turners of this world get people to send in donations. He was making 100,000 as an informant, yet he still had those donations coming in, how many real leaders lost their homes, while people followed the FBI’s solution to fake leadership? This happens in many communities.

The plants tend to get the media attention, the money, and the followers, which I think could be in part because the informants are told which groups to support. I have watched this time and again in the Gang Stalking community so I know the pattern all too well. People follow the wrong group, wrong leaders and waste their time, money, and efforts going after the wrong things. This is done deliberately. This happens across the board. Controlled opposition, controlled rebellion, while real rebellion get’s dealt with.

As long as they understand human nature it seems that they will control us to their ends. A shift is happening, it feels like the same influences who were behind much of what happened in Nazi Germany are back at their own games, and history feels like it’s about to have a repeat. It’s hard to imagine, because for many things seem so normal, they don’t see the similarities. Others see it all too well and have been trying to warn others to no avail.

History has never had a good record of not protecting it’s Messiahs. Jesus, Joan of Ark, to help humanity is to be turned upon in many cases, this pattern seems to be fairly consistent as well. Can this change? Sure, people have to start with the young. The undue influence with their lives, and minds begins early. Parents should limit what they watch on television. Teach at home if you can, but most people’s lifestyles just do not allow for this. Our children are often handed off to strangers, or the agents of the state to be trained up and educated the way they see fit, and the ones that are not, will be medicated to fit that bill, or bullied to become socially engineered compliant non thinkers.

https://gangstalking.wordpress.com/2008/09/10/leaders/

This generation will believe what they are taught, if that is loyalty to the state, then loyalty to the state it will be. It they are taught that being informants is the right thing to do, they will not question it. If they grow up in a society where mind reading technology is used in every day life, and naked scanners, they won’t think that it’s unnatural. It’s the same way this generation uses cellphones, they won’t question these technologies, or being even RFID chips, or ink on their bodies. They just will not know a time before them. If you can get to your children first, then you stand a chance. However the few who can raise up healthy free thinkers then run the risk of having their children grow up to be future targets of the state. For free thinking, and the outspoken, those who do not follow the orthodoxy, have been prime targets throughout history.

As it is now, it seems a similar clearing is happening, and the handmaidens of the NWO are being used, wittingly or unwittingly to bring about those ends. Right before your eye a system is being unveiled, and an agenda is happening, some see it, many don’t, but it’s there, and as it becomes more visible, people will be amazed, but this is a system that was predicted a long time ago. It is one that has been coming into affect for some time now. I think that change is possible at any stage, I think that a difference can be made, that is why this system is so careful about what influences are allowed to rise. I think if the people ever stopped following false prophets, took ownership, and stopped looking outside of themselves for answers that change could happen. First however it’s helpful to realise that there is an agenda at foot, then once you understand the size and scope, and don’t allow yourself to be paralyzed with fear, then real change can happen.

March 22, 2010 Posted by | Blacklisted, Brain reading device, Children, Citizen Informants, Conformity, Conspiracy, Gang Stalking, New World Order, NWO | , , , , , , | 5 Comments

Leaders

Someone asked me recently why aren’t there any good leaders left?

It was a simple enough question. I could have given a simple mundane answer and then moved on, but I didn’t. Being me, it was an opportunity to talk about the real reasons there are no really good leaders left.

I have been thinking about this a lot. I mean a lot of people are counting on political leaders to save the day. Obama being the most recent.

I had to turn to programs that have been designed to remove such leaders from society.

http://cointelpro2.com/
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/FBI/Lessons_COINTELPRO.html
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2007/02/354278.shtml
http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/cointelpro/cointel.htm

See some years ago, such leaders did rise up, and they rose up in seemingly greeter abundance than now. They had their faults, they were no different than the leaders of this time period, but the struggles and challenges were a lot more defined for many of them. The oppression was open and overt and for many despite humble beginnings, they went out and started to make a difference for many in their communities that were struggling and oppressed.

We literally have a society that at one time had Native, Black, puertorican, White, etc leaders. People who were charismatic, good orators, people who could lead a resistance. Many were just young people who saw the open oppression of their various peoples, and how were they dealt with? They were jailed, killed, murdered, framed, discredited, on the run, targeted in every single way imaginable, till their were few left, or they did not have the resource to move forward with those movements. They were also targeted from within by Snitches/Confidential Informants who’s only job it was to ruin the organisation, and often these people these snitches were the ones who rose in power in those same organizations they sought to destroy.

What happens now in this time period is that many of those groups of people are still targeted, but it’s done in far more subtle ways, many people don’t even realise there is a struggle that continues. Most are not aware of this. They grow up in society being taught about how bad things were, and repressive, and about the leader of that time period, but what they are not taught is that things are still as repressive, just in much more subtle ways.
http://www.csudh.edu/univadv/idh0101/Profiling0101.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Webb
http://www.thestar.com/News/article/201456

The bonds are still on the hands. Just not as openly. The leaders that they are fed or often hand picked by the state, and will be the ones that conform to what the state wants and needs, anyone who goes outside of that will quickly be disbanded. These groups are not taught, but soon come to realise that they are being targeted in schools by zero tolerance programs. At work by subtle social discrimination, and in the community at large, with the media, the police, and it’s still institutionalised discrimination, just not as openly, but still just as oppressive. The worst part is many people believe that they are fully free, you are not. Don’t get me wrong, we can have freedom or the concept of freedom in our minds and must continue to choose to do so.

The potential leaders of this time period often don’t even realise there is a struggle, this goes for ever race, gender and creed. Black, white, Mexican, Asian, Middle Eastern, Indian, Male, Female, etc. Many have no idea that we are all trapped in a system that is rapidly moving towards enslaving us. It’s crazy, but it’s true.
http://thehiddenevil.com/
The other problem with leaders is the system often promotes those that they think will fall in line. Those who like rewards, and promotions, those children who can’t see past their own egos, and flourish because they know how to do what the state wants them to. You can see this in an examination of who get’s targeted and the why’s.

http://www.bullyeq.com/bol/workbully/bully.htm#Why

Long ago society learnt how to strangle, choke, repress, and deal with leaders, when they do rise from the ashes of oppression, we are often amazed, but do we protect them? Do we help them? Do we defend them? You would think so, but often we use them, we take what they are willing to give, and then we desert them in their hours of need. It’s not a pretty story being a leader. We like them, because they make our lives easier, we don’t have to do the work. Someone else can save the world. They can, but why should they have to have? I have seen so many stories of whistle-blower destroyed, when we should be celebrating them in the streets.

We each have the potential in us to do some good, and I think we must strive to do so as much as possible. I get emails all the time wondering why more isn’t being done, and I am sympathetic, because I think and wonder the same thing, but then I also look back and think, if this information had been there for me two years ago, I would have been so much further along in life.

I would have know what I was up against. I would have known that my co-workers were being asked to provoke me daily to losing jobs, or getting angry, or trying to make me look crazy. I would have known about intimate infiltrations, and what to look for. My answers about family and their involvement would have been answered. I would have known that they were also being asked, forced whatever into taking part.
Awareness of what was happening would have helped. It would have been good to know that we are up against a system, a system that has endless resources that they can, and will use against a single target to bring then down to heal. Yes they will put up entire construction projects to create noise and disturbances, yes they do have cities full of Citizen Informants that can and will follow you around and try to provoke you daily. Yes they can electronically monitor you and torture you in your home. Yes the fire trucks and airplanes will be used, yes the police, fire-persons, etc are all in on it.

Having that knowledge two years ago, and a few trusted sites would have helped a lot. I didn’t have that however, but what I did not have, I now try to provide for others. My two years of torture, pain, failures, triumpths, what works, what does not work, I have blogged, and posted that for you, hopefully it will help in some subtle way.

I am still learning as I go. I do try to answer emails when I can, but I still have my own struggles daily. I still at times marvel that I could have been so blind, that I could have believed this lie that was fed to me about democracy and freedom, but I believed it. I trusted it, I was so sure of it, that is why it took so long for me to see the truth, but see it I did, and I had to see it for myself before I could move forward. Your children will believe the lies of the state, unless you teach them the truth. They will believe spying on their parents, and being citizen informants, and hunting down targets are good things to do. They won’t know the difference, they won’t know wrong from right, because oppression will be all they will learn. They will be indoctrinated, and that is all that there will be for them.

This post goes out to leaders, I know you are out there, because many of us do have the potential to be leaders, to speak the truth, to guide others, to let our lights shine forth as they must do in time, and to inspire others as we must.

To some of the leaders that have gone before, let’s remember what their efforts cost them.

Joan of Ark, lead France to victory only to be sacrificed to the enemy and burnt alive.

Martin Luther King, though appreciated he was still assassinated.

Ghandi, appreciated and assassinated.

Jesus, betrayed, appreciated, and assassinated. (Crucified.)

John Lennon, not seen as a leader in the traditional sense, but he had the influence to change a generation and he was assassinated.

The panthers, Malcolm X, jailed, assassinated, some had the loyalty of the people.

Whistle blowers, reporters that still tell the truth. Many are jobless, some homeless, many are targeted like ourselves, some have been killed for telling the truth. 

The list goes on, and the struggle continues. I don’t want to scare anyone off, but look at what has gone before, keep that in mind as we try to find a way forward.

This post goes out to leaders, past, present and future. Thank you for your light, your sacrifices, your love, guidance, and willingness to take on the burdens so many others passed by, or were too self involved to take up. We look to you, and ask for your guidance in this time period of oppression and struggle, for those of us that are waking up to the truth. The struggle has never ended, the fight has never truly been won, and the battle rages on. We pray and hope for what small victories we may have.

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