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Use what works for you

What is the correct term to use to describe what is happening in the Targeted Individual community?

https://gangstalking.wordpress.com/2008/10/10/gang-stalking/

https://gangstalking.wordpress.com/2008/11/25/the-witch-hunt/

Some would tell you that the only term that you can use is organised stalking, and if you use the term gang stalking that is bad.

I have addressed this before, but I am going to take the time to address it again because it’s important.

My primary feeling when doing activism is that you need to use the term that works for you. That’s my first recommendation.

There are many people who have been through the former East Germany, many who see what’s happening and use the term Stasi, or they refer constantly to East Germany and the situation there.

Other use the term Cointelpro to describe what’s happening now, and what has been happening to them. It’s like Cointelpro 2, so they use that term.

Some use the term organised stalking to describe what is happening, but this term in my opinion has never truly covered the full concept of what we are facing.

I have liked Community Mobbing because when I first tried to get members of the Stalking Community and the Mobbing community involved in helping us expose what was happening, the mobbing community understood right away, and were willing to help, the stalking community was not helpful at the time.

Snitching, this is a term I don’t think many in the TI community identify with, but after doing the research, this is my finding, those who were promoting the stop snitching message, we more aware of the problem that was ongoing in society with Informants than many Targeted Individuals were. The stop snitching movement as you may or may not realise has been demonized by those who would like to see the informant system continue as it as.

Which brings me to the so called deliberate desire by some to remove the term Gang Stalking and replace it with terms that do not fully describe what has happened to the Targeted Individual community, but to also destroy all the progress that has been made over the last 3-4 years using that term.

As I have stated before when a terms gains popularity and you try to replace it with a different term, there is a process of almost starting from scratch, this means all the previous efforts are almost wiped and the process has to begin again.

You loose ground and that is not good for any movement. The bogus reasons given is that too often using the term Gang Stalking puts people in mind of criminal gangs, but over the last three years, most no pretty much every article written on this subject that people can find in a major newspaper uses the term Gang Stalking, here is a list.

 
Are you crazy or are you being Gang Stalked?
http://www.newswithviews.com/Stuter/stuter78.htm

Also a target herself.
http://www.shoestringradio.net/transcript35.txt

Shoestring Radio by Eleanor White herself. (exhibit B)

Welcome to show #35, recorded on July 14, 2006.

ROAD TO FREEDOM is a show by and about the targets of
electronically assisted vigilante or citizen gang stalking or organized stalking throughout the world.
http://www.arcticbeacon.com/audio/2006/2006-GCN/02-2006-GCN/

February 2006 Szymanski Investigative Journal GCN mp3 archive
Sueann Campbell is a retired electronic technician who has been targeted for many years. She began working as an activist to expose citizen gang stalking and electronic harassment in 2000.

(Greg Szymanski) investigative reporter, and the shows he has covered, from what I can tell, used the term Gang Stalking, consistently, and the people tuning into the shows, don’t seem to have called him back with questions about street gangs.
http://www.mykawartha.com/news/article/2028

Follow-up Article on Gang Stalking
Allegation of gang stalking is again being investigated
Police probe re-opened after This Week story
May 19, 2006

Lance Anderson

City police have reopened an investigation into an allegation of gang stalking.

Sergeant Walter DiClemente says police received a complaint from a woman, sparking them to re-open the case.
Then we had the more recent articles in the New York Times, abc.com, and the Washington post.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/NewsSearch?sb=-1&st=By%20Sharon%20Weinberger&

The callers frequently refer to themselves as TIs, which is short for Targeted Individuals, and talk about V2K — the official military abbreviation stands for “voice to skull” and denotes weapons that beam voices or sounds into the head. In their esoteric lexicon, “gang stalking” refers to the belief that they are being followed and harassed: by neighbors, strangers or colleagues who are agents for the government.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/13/fashion/13psych.html?pagewanted=all
Type “mind control” or “gang stalking” into Google, and Web sites appear that describe cases of persecution, both psychological and physical, related with the same minute details — red and white cars following victims, vandalism of their homes, snickering by those around them.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/MindMoodNews/Story?id=6443988&page=1

Take the victims of gang stalking — a subculture of people who think their friends and neighbors are all secret government spies ready to turn them over to the authorities. The movement has recently spawned gang stalking support groups, forums and advice Web sites.
The mainstream papers have picked up the term, and local papers, and other sources, but suddenly there is a need to remove the term, and all traces of progress that have been made by using the term. More effective than other means that could have been employed to slow progress, but still the same outcome.
It’s more recently that I recall the full blown effort to eradicate the term Gang Stalking. It’s been played with, changing the name, and this and that, but it’s more recent surprisingly as progress was being made that the absolute need has come up to change the name.

I wonder since Gang Stalking is the term that has served the Targeted Individual community the best, if the real goal is to help the community and to not hinder it, and this really is about activism, why not do what has always been done, which is to present multiple terms?
Why the sudden need to put effort into eradicating the progress that has been made with using the a term that has become familiar to facebook groups, alternative forums, mainstream forums, main stream newspapers, and mainstream audiences at large? Why would you limit yourself this way if the real goal is to help the community and not to hurt it?

I say use what works for you, and stop letting those who might not or who just don’t have your best interest at heart, and the communities best interest at heart, tell you what to think, and use. I don’t think too many people use vigilante stalking anymore, thank God, but if someone did use the term, I would know what they were talking about, and that is the point is that we get the info out to as many people as we can.

There is enough room in the world for the use of the term Gang Stalking, Community Mobbing, Snitches, Stasi, Cointelpro, Organized Stalking, Vigilante Stalking, and a few others. Use what will get the concept across to the audience that you are dealing with, use what will help the community, but do not go along with those who do not have the communities best interests at heart, and eliminate terms, ideas or concepts that have served the community very well over the last few years.

That’s my take on what terms to use and to not use, use what works for you in getting the information across to your audience. Some terms will be better than others, but do not go along with witch hunts, and other efforts to destroy progress that has already been made.

April 5, 2009 Posted by | Community harassment, community mobbing, Conspiracy, Gang Stalking, Gangstalking | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | 4 Comments

Censored

http://gangstalkingworld.com/Forum/YaBB.pl?num=1230086137/0

I recently went back to the ABC story regarding what is behind the Internet Conspiracy Empires.

I found this comment on the website.

[quote]Why are Gang Stalking and con artist/mystery monger David Icke both featured in an article about “nutty” conspiracy theories? David Icke has nothing to do with Gang Stalking. I doubt if he has ever used the phrase. The best information on Gang Stalking is in private investigator David Lawson’s booklet “Cause Stalking” and Frank Donner’s book “Protectors of Privilege.” Why were these sources (apparently) not consulted? Gang Stalking is conducted by extremist groups and has been going on for decades. ABC should contact David Lawson and ask him about Gang Stalking. It is regrettable that some people who are Gang Stalking victims adopt “nutty” conspiracy theories. And some people who claim to be Gang Stalking victims are not. They are apparently stalkers who spread bizarre theories to discredit genuine Gang Stalking victims. “Bob” in San Diego.[/quote]

So I responded to Bob in San Diego.

[quote]
Gang Stalking is a covert investigation that is opened up on an individual. The book Cause Stalking is disinformation in my opinion. The government did a lot of this during Cointelpro. Once a covert investigation is opened the target is followed around 24/7 using over and covert methods. Foot patrols follow them around and vehicle patrols.

Targets can not get lawyers or human rights groups involved and that is because it’s government sanctioned. I however do agree that there are many people online spreading the fake vigilante myth so that target when they go for help, can appear to be mentally unstable. If you want to read up on some other conspiracies uncovered during the course of Gang Stalking research, you can visit this link.

http://gangstalkingworld.com/Forum/YaBB.pl?num=1229558471
[/quote]
http://a.abcnews.com/Health/MindMoodNews/story?id=6443988&page=1

I found that my post to Bob was deleted 20 minutes later. Apparently ABC has been going and removing comments as some posters had attested to.

So I re-posted my comment and took a screen shot, just to be on the safe side, because I know how these things work sometimes.

After I re-posted my comment and took the screen shot, it was removed 2 second later. Literally when I refreshed it was not there.

http://gangstalkingworld.com/Forum/Attachments/ABCdeleteda.jpg

http://www.GangStalkingUnited.com/images/ABCdeleteda.jpg
Then I tried to post again, and started to get There was a problem with this page, please try again. So I refreshed and tried again, the same thing, the same thing each time.
http://gangstalkingworld.com/Forum/Attachments/ABCcensoreda.jpg

http://www.GangStalkingUnited.com/images/ABCcensoreda.jpg

So I opened a different browser window. It asked me to log in. I tried to log in only to get this error message.

http://gangstalkingworld.com/Forum/Attachments/ABCcensored2a.jpg

http://www.GangStalkingUnited.com/images/ABCcensored2a.jpg

exceptionSubject is required.  Then it would not let me log in from the new window, and when trying to post from the old window it was the same error message.

Now why is ABC censoring these comments? I mean if Gang Stalking is not a covert investigation opened on an individual then my posting that should not be a problem.

Now just to make sure that it was not the link, which others have posted links, and that I was not violating any rules, I retyped my post.

[quote]

Gang Stalking is a covert investigation that is opened up on an individual. In my opinion the vigilante myth and the book that refers to it are disinformation. The government did a lot of this during Cointelpro. Once a covert investigation is opened the target is followed around 24/7 using over and covert methods. Foot patrols follow them around and vehicle patrols.

Targets can not get lawyers or human rights groups involved and that is because it’s officially sanctioned. I however do agree that there are many people online spreading the fake vigilante myth so that target when they go for help, can appear to be mentally unstable. If you want to read up on some other conspiracies uncovered during the course of Gang Stalking research, you can do a google search for a post called Conspiracies from the Gang Stalking World website. [/quote]
It seems that ABC has an agenda with keeping specific comments out. That is really sad, where is the conspiracy now, you tell me. A major news site that has to censor comments that do not need to be censored or the people who speak the truth and are trying to give them feedback as to what we think about the websites? Specifically when the owner of one of those websites that is mentioned in their article tries to comment and leave feedback.

Anyways I thought it would be interesting to share the information.

abcdeleteda

December 24, 2008 Posted by | Awareness, Conspiracy | , , , , , , , , , , , | Leave a comment

   

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