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What makes a “real” Canadian.

What makes a real Canadian.

I was recently lucky enough to come a cross a thread that was called Beautiful Real Canadian Women at a popular tv news site website. They were gathering a list of real Canadian woman and there were requirements as to what constituted a Beautiful real Canadian.

Eg. You had to have been born and bread in Canada.
Your origin had to be British or French, no ethnics allowed.

I was not really clear on the last point, cause I really thought that first nations people that were born in Canada, were real Canadians, God knows they were there before everyone else. Also I was under the impression that if one was born in Canada and breed there, one was also a real Canadian, no matter the ethnicity. Heck before that thread, my definition had been so broad that it had included people not born in Canada as being real Canadian. I had thought that as long as your heart, your hopes, and your dreams were all bound in Canada, then you were a Canadian, but I was about to get a real education.

Apparently a real Canadian is limited in some circles, to this definition.

[quote]Originally Posted by ******

Quoted directly from him (****canadian) on July 30, 2006 #22
For beginners, see thread how to be a real canadian. A real canadian by definition, mother tongue is english or French. I can tolerate first generation frenchmen and anybody british/irish. Thats who founded our country and civilized Canada. Anybody else is not welcome here unless they are serving me a good ethnic dish. Why is that so difficult to understand ? [/quote]
This is the definition of being a real Canadian on a really popular Canadian news forum, but more importantly it’s the definition by I am sure quite a few Canadians.

The fact that people can have these opinions, and discuss them openly in public is I think what makes countries like Canada great. Because as much as I disagree with this definition, I think it’s good that we can have open definitions about it.

The following was my response to the above poster.

[quote]Since no one else has said anything to the contrary I assume that ******** answer is correct.

So to be a real Canadian, one must be British/Irish ethnic origin. Also must be born and breed here, and are not welcome unless they are serving you an ethnic dish.

So this is what it comes down to. So Italian, Greek, Ukrain, Polish, Russian do not fit into this little real Canadian feast. Good to know, I will leave them off too. Unless they are bowing at your feet serving you a nice dish of ethnic food. Italian perhaps?

I also understand the lovely first nations ladies, who were here well before anyone else, with their own languages and culture are to be excluded from this true Canadian list, even though the very name of our country, come from their native tongue.
Since there are no challenges to these requirements, I assume everyone here more or less agrees with the definition, or can squeeze by enough to be included in the definition.
I do respect peoples right to have an opinion, and you certainly have the right to yours, but my definition of what makes a real Canadian is a little more broad, and much less exclusionary, so after much though and consideration, I will not be contributing anyone to this list, because I am vehemently in disagreement with the narrow definition in this thread as to what makes a real Canadian. However I can see that several other were more than fine with it, and I will leave that group, to continuing to narrowing down the list further.

I look forward to seeing how that goes.[/quote]
I can’t begin to express how strongly I feel on this point, or the myriad of reasons for my feelings on this point, but needless to say, I think and feel that if you come to this country, or any other country for that matter, you work hard, respect the rules, are willing to live, work, fight, and love that country, then that to me should make a person worthy to be defined and called a real citizen of that country.

I don’t think birth or breeding makes a person a citizen of a country. How many times have I seen countries, their flags, and laws spit upon, burnt, or disrespected, by those that were born and bread there?

How many times have I seen those born and bread, who fit the ethnic and definition not willing to work for, go to war for, or show any dedication for this country? Yet if you are born on this soil all is forgivable?

I find it deeply offensive, that first nations people who were in this country, well before anyone else got here, and who were born and bread here for centuries before any European set foot on this soil, do not meet the definition of what is considered to be a true Canadian.

I also find it offensive, because it is their word, kanata” which in Huron-Iroquois language means “village” or “settlement”, that was used to name and Christen this country.

I also find it offensive that the Governor General of Canada, would be excluded from this list, because she was not born in Canada, but she represents the Queens interest in Canada. I also find it hard to believe that even if she had been born and bread in Canada, she would still be excluded from this list of real Canadian woman, due to her ethnicity. Even though she speaks English and french better than many born and bread in Canada.

My definition is more broad and open, because it is the wave after wave of immigrants that have made this country what it is, the bad and the good. The variety, those ethnic dishes that are spoken of by some, as the only reason to let ethnic say in the country, if they are serving those dishes. That multiculturalism is part of what we are known and respected for. That weave is why we have Toronto, which is the most multicultural city in the world, more languages are spoken in Toronto than any other country in the world. Toronto is seen as a model for many other laces, where many cultures can live and work together.

Wave after wave is what made Canada a great country. I know there are those that will differ in opinion, and they have the right to do so, and from what I have seen the number is great and going unchallenged day by day.

My definition however is far more board and varied, because it’s all these voices that have made the country great, it’s all those little pieces put together one by one, that have made this quilt that we call Canada. Generation after generation, we are a changing and emerging society.

If we are going to continue to function and stay strong, then some of us are going to have to think about opening up that definition to a broader audience.

I would love to think that someone could come to this country, live, work, love and respect this country and in time they and their children could be counted into this great quilt that we call Canada. Maybe I am naive, but I think it’s our many voices that makes us strong, and free, because we have shown ourselves to be a society that can tolerate and accept so much diversity.

In my opinion these narrowed and exclusionary definitions, are whats wrong right now with Canada. Too many Canadians are being born, growing up, or coming to Canada and not feeling Canadian. These exclusionary views are making citizens who might potentially grow to love this country, feel not a part of it, and when you create this kind of disconnectedness in a society you have  repercussions down the line for many generations, and a nation that has the potential to be strong, proud and unified, becomes divided and divides into it’s little ethnicity’s as people try to find a place, to fit in, in that society.

When we come with narrow definitions like this, and then wonder why people don’t feel the loyalty to Canada that we expect, are we really surprised. If you exclude people with this narrow and exclusionary definitions, don’t be surprised, when the results are people that growing up in that society and not feeling connected to it. That definition is true for people born here, or abroad, and bread here or abroad, if any society excludes others, they then in time will exclude and reject that society.  

Our strength as a nation is in our unity and diversity, it’s maybe time some of us considered broadening our definitions to include people that are Canadian, by more than just birth or British or French heritage.

October 15, 2006 Posted by | Cultural diversity and multiculturalism | Leave a comment

What is Gangstalking?

Q: What is Gang Stalking? (^)
A: Gang stalking is a combination of organised stalking and mobbing, that takes place primarily in the targets community. The target is (followed) stalked, mobbed, and harasaed 24/7 by groups of citizens. Gang stalking is said to be “a psychological attack that can completely destroy a persons life, while leaving little or no evidence to incriminate the perpetrators.”

Q: Other names for Gang Stalking. (^)
A: There are many names for this form of harassment, some of the most popular are. Multi stalking, vengeance stalking, cause stalking, stalking by proxy, organised stalking, organised harassment, group stalking, community mobbing, etc

Q: How are targets choosen? (^)
A: Targets are choosen for a number of reasons, the primary ones seem to be revenge, jealousy, racism, for sport, or to keep a target quite.

Q: Goals of Gang Stalking (^)
A: The goal is destroy the targets reputation and credibility. Make the target look crazy or unstable. Sensitize the target to an everyday stimuli, isolate the target, silence the target, and make them destitute. The secondary goals seem to be to make the target homeless, jobless, give them a breakdown, and the primary goals seems to be to drive the target to suicide.

Q: Who gets targeted? (^)
A: Anyone can be a target of gang stalking, however the primary targets seem to be: single woman, minorities, outspoken individuals, whistle blowers, dissidents, homosexuals, etc.

Q: Who takes part? (^)
A: The surprising thing is that gang stalkers can be found in every level of society. There is no real age barrier, gender barrier, and a variety of races do participate. In almost every occupation in society you can find people who are going along with this. Eg. Firemen, police officers, lawyers, health care workers, store keepers, maids, janitors, cable installers, phone repair persons, mail carriers, locksmiths, electricians, etc

The fact that so many people in legitimate professions take part in gang stalking makes it look legal, however gang stalking is fully illegal and wrong.

Gang stalking for many is seen as a game, a sport to be played with another individuals life. Many do not understand or care that the end consequence of this game is to destroy a person.

Q: Why people Gang Stalk (^)
A: There are a variety of reasons that a person would choose to take part in Gang Stalking.

1. Some do it for the sense of power that it gives them.

2. Others do this as a way to make friends and keep friends. It’s something social and fun for them to do.

3. Other are forced or black mailed into taking part.

4. Some are lied to. They are told that they are part of homeland security and being used to help keep and eye on dangerous individuals.

5. Others are just local thugs or informants who are already being used for other activities, and their energies are just diverted over into gang stalking. Eg. Some may be given the choice of gnag stalking vs going to jail.

Q: Methods used against targets (^)
A: a) Classical conditioning.

Getting a target sensitised to an everyday stimuli. The target over a period of months, or even years is negatively sensitied to an everyday stimuli, which is then used to harass them. It’s used out in public to let them know they are constantly being harassed and monitored. Some examples of everyday stimulis that might be used include: sounds, colors, patterns, actions. Eg. Red, white, yellow, strips, pens clicking, key jangling, loud coughing, loud whistling, loud smacking of claping of hands together, etc.

b) 24/7 Surveillance

This will involve following the target everywhere they go. Learning about the target. Where they shop, work, play, who their friends and family are. Getting close to the target, moving into the community or apartment where they live, across the street. Bugging targets phone, house, and computer activity.

c) Isolation of said target.

This is done via slander campaigns, and lies. Eg. People in the targets community are told that the target is a thief, into drugs, a prostitute, pedophile, crazy, in trouble for something, needs to be watched. False files will even be produced on the target, shown to neighbours, family, store keepers.

d) Noise and mimicking campaigns.

Disrupting the targets life, sleep with loud power tools, construction, stereos, doors slamming, etc. Talking in public about private things in the targets life. Mimicking actions of the target. Basically letting the target know that they are in the targets life. Daily interferences, nothing that would be too overt to the untrained eye, but psychologically degrading and damaging to the target over time.

d) Everyday life breaks and street theatre.

Flat tires, putting dirt on targets property. Mass strangers doing things in public to annoy targets. These strangers might get text messaged to be at a specific time and place, and perform a specific action.

It might seem harmless to these strangers, but it could be causing great psychological trauma for the target. Eg. Blocking targets path, getting ahead of them in line, cutting or boxing them in on the road, saying or doing things to elicit a response from targets. Etc.

Q: Where does the funding come from for this (^)
A: Though Gang stalking itself is illegal and wrong it can be funded by:

1. Large wealthy corporations. Some are using this as a way to keep some employees quite. It’s cheaper than

   expensive law suits.

2. Government organisations. Gang stalking is being used on dissidents and activists.

3. Racist extremists groups. Eg. This is similar to what the KKK used on Black’s in the south, and the German brown coats used on the Jews. Baiting them.

Q: What you can do to help. (^)
A: 1. If you know someone who is being targeted in this way please don’t do along with it. It’s not for fun, it’s not harmless, and the goal is to destroy the individual over time.

2. If you are aware of gang stalking you can help educate others with what you know. Share your knowledge. Post this information on forums, billboards, newsgroups. Knowledge is power.

3. Start a website, hand out flyer’s or a support group to help others.

4. If you have space you can lend out for support group meetings you can offer your space.

5. You can send out emails to your friends, family, co-workers regarding this new evil.

6. You can request that your local newspapers or community papers print articles about this new hate (crime) game.

Q: How do Gang stalkers communicate? (^)
A: Gang stalkers communicate in a number of ways. When on the street or in cars patrolling, they use baseball or Stasi like signals.

These include things like tapping the side of the nose, corner of the eye, brushing back the hair 3 times, etc.

Here is a list of Stasi signals that the East German Army use to use. Stasi secret police.


1. Watch out! Subject is coming – touch nose with hand or handkerchief

2. Subject is moving on, going further, or overtaking – stroke hair with hand, or raise hat briefly

3. Subject standing still – lay one hand against back, or on stomach

4. Observing Agent wishes to terminate observation because cover threatened – bend and retie shoelaces

5. Subject returning – both hands against back, or on stomach

6. Observing Agent wishes to speak with Team Leader or other Observing Agents – take out briefcase or equivalent and examine contents.

Q: What resources are there about Gang Stalking? (^)
A: There are many resources on the Internet and elsewhere about gang stalking.

Books: 1. David Lawson Terrorist stalking in America.

       2. Gloria Naylor. "1996"

Articles: 1.


October 7, 2006 Posted by | Gang Stalking | Leave a comment

More Gang Stalking Tips and tricks.

4. Due to gangstalking stress or the electronic harassment that often comes with gang stalking you might find that your skin gets intensely dry. For the face may I suggest the occasional avocado face mask. Find one at your local cosmetic store that is good for re-hydrating the skin. (It does not have to be avocado, but I like the smell and feel of this.) After you finish your skin should feel so much better.

For really dry hands and skin, use a water based moisturiser, oil based if you are being
eharassed just holds in the heat, not fun.

5. After a bout of electronic harassment I suggest a cool bath for an hour after. The coolness of the water draws out some of the heat from the skin. Depending on how bad your harassment is, you might be doing this every day. I suggest adding bath salts, or minerals to the water. They don’t help with the eharassment, but they just feel really goods, and again it helps the skin.
6. For the electronic harassment itself try do it yourself tiles. (Those tiles with the peel
away sticky back. They are not really tiles, they are linoleum, but they are called do it
yourself tiles.) I know this sounds really tin foil hatish, but hear me out. I don’t know if
this will work for anyone else, but try it, it’s cheap. Get some do it yourself tiles from Rona, home hardware, home depot, you know those places. They range in price from 12C a piece to a $1.80 per tile. Somewhere in the middle should be fine. I am using the thicker higher priced ones.

Don’t buy a whole box, unless you find that it works for you as well, then you are good to go. I know some people say miramar blankets reduce the electronic harassment problem, I’ve never tried them, but from the feedback I’ve read, it’s not that promising.

So depending on your bed or sleeping area, buy enough individual do it yourself tiles to cover the space, keep the receipt, if this does not work for you can always return them. Leave the sticky backs on, and just spread them out over the area that you are sleeping on. Lie directly on them. That’s it. For me the vibrations are reduced. (Not stopped, but reduced.) The burns or pin pricks or whatever you call the eburns, also seem to be reduced, to the areas that are on the tiles. I think the coolness of the tiles is what helps. Don’t cover when lying on the tiles, just lie on the tiles. If this works you will know within the hour, either it works or it doesn’t. Try sleeping with them and without and see if there is a difference.

If it works for you, then buy a box of the tiles, if not, you kept the reciept, return them.  

Remember these tips and tricks and many more like them, can be found at

October 7, 2006 Posted by | Gang Stalking | Leave a comment

On the Gangstalking offensive.

Trust me being passive does not work, and exposes their asses for the gang stalkers they are is the only way. So after another three weeks of drilling at all hours of the day and night I finally had my emotional, that’s it moment.

Kinda like in She devil where Myarl streep takes back control. Anyways I was really all like that’s it I want them gone. So I just gave them a very unpleasent verbal tirade. I am in my apartment, which I pay $920.00 for per month and I will say what I like, if you are a gang stalker and you happen to be listening tuff. Then they got my rendition of noise disturbance. Then after 2 unanswered phone calls to the land lady. One the month before, and one last month. (Since she is actively helping them, why would she respond.)

 Anyways dropped off a letter, and I am waiting written confirmation that she recived the letter about the noise disturbance. It’s just the nerve of these people. Oh get this she tried to imply the loud drilling was a niosy faucet, without asking to hear the noise or might I add being willing to investigate it, or drop off a note to the apartments in question. Because loud drilling sounds like a broken faucet.  Maybe in their world.

 When I do get out, I have my stop gang stalking sign, written in nice legible letters. Floresent orange paper with black marker. It quite the conversation piece. Just get some paper, hole punch a couple of holes, write a messeage about stopping gang stalking, and away you go if that’s your thing.

It you have a jacket you can even use iron on paper and print something creative off the computer, then iron it onto jackets, tee-shirts. Hand bags, jeans if you are that bold. etc. So that was a nice conversation in the grocery store. They are getting too rude and out of control, they need to be driven back to the darkness where they belong.

So after my adventure yesterday I found this great forum posting. To read the whole thing you need to click on the link.

[quote]We bought the home we now live in and then the neighborhood gang stalking began in earnest. When I walked my two dogs(pekes), people(mostly blacks) would run out of their houses and accuse the dogs of fouling their lawns(they hadn’t) and threaten to shoot us. The police would then show up and tell me I had to stay in my house and leave all these “good people” alone or they would arrest me. I solved that problem by having my SO follow us around the block with a camcorder.

When I would go out to mow the front lawn or work on the garden, three neighbohood women ( one Masonic) would actually walk down the street and shout obscenities at me and one even threatened me. The neighbors on each side sold their homes and moved out. The homes were sold to (guess) Masons. They have decided to become more subtle and do things like throwing trash in my yard or do the” same time thing”. If I am out front or leaving or walking my dogs, they are out front. One of them is a BIG Black hairy Mason who likes to sneak up on me and my SO and stand threateningly over us while we work.

My SO finally cured him by throwing a bag of dirt on him(OOPS). If I go out into my back yard, they also come out in their back yards and make ungodly noises. I have retaliated with a few things, like when their daughter had a loud party and threw trash in my yard, I first plugged in a boom box of my own and gave them a rendition of the Royal Canadian Bagpipers and then collected up the trash and on Sunday morn threw it all over their yard.

When the Masonic moronic matron on the corner left poison out for my dogs to step in, I loudly accused them of being gang stalkers and terrorists and(loudly) told my SO how easy it would be to throw a chunk of liverwurst in their yard and they could worry whether or not it was poisoned. Haven’t had a problem since. Now when I see them pull the Same leaving time stunt, I loudly call out “Good Morning Gang Stalkers” . I have finally put a damper on their activities in the neigborhood.

In the community, I have adopted a policy of boycotting those businesses that have been gang stalking rude after I have let the management know about it. I also let all other people I come in contact with know about the boycott and why.  So, after this long missive of my travails, I can only recommend that victims of gang stalking must go on the offensive in a very subtle way. First find out who is conducting this nasty business, and second let them know that you can and will retaliate.[/quote]

See I don’t think it’s erronious to say an aggresive stance against these people is what we need, they need to be driven back, and forced back into the darkness from whece they came.  Needless to say, I think the poster above nicely illestrates my point.

October 4, 2006 Posted by | Gang Stalking | Leave a comment