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Sherlock Investigations.

I just had a visit from Skipp Porteous from Sherlock Investigations. He dropped by to assure me that his company is real, and not fake. He says that he still thinks that Gang Stalking is fake. Now I really respect that he took the time to drop by, so I wrote a response, and I hope he will do me the favor of reading the quick links, and looking over the Jane  Clift case.

I suspect like many other good people Mr Porteous has been mislead into thinking that Gang Stalking is vigilante Gangs or Groups of some sort. I hope the information provided will disavow him of those beliefs, and I hope the correct information will provide him with new and informative insight into this phenomenon.

Here is his post, and here is my response.

Skipp Porteous

Sherlock Investigations Inc. is real, but gang stalking is not.

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Hi Skipp, thank you for taking the time to stop by, I really appreciate it. Are you telling me that people are not being placed on occupational health and safety lists? That they are not being followed around after being listed? Are you telling me that the psychiatric reprisal is not being used? Because i have a whole whack of evidence that says that it is. Now Skipp, I am not going to ask you to do anything as difficult as read a book on this topic. I am going to ask you to politely humor me, and have a quick look at the Jane Clift case, and the Gang Stalking quick guide. If you can read these over, and tell me this stuff is not happening, I will be very surprised.

Again thank you for dropping by, here are the links.
http://www.GangStalkingWorld.com/QuickRef.pdf

http://www.1brickcourt.com/files/cases/140CLIFT_58136.pdf

Now Skipp the evidence in the Jane Clift case is not information from my site, this is an independent investigation into what happened to this woman. After being placed on a list for sending a nasty letter to a customer service rep, her information was populated everywhere she went, and she was followed around. She was listed as medium risk, only to be seen in pairs.

I don’t know what your impression of Gang Stalking is, but the information that comes from the main Gang Stalking site is pointing to these occupational health and safety lists, which are very real. Threat assessment teams are putting people on lists, who they suspect have a mental illness. Notice the word is suspect? Meaning that they might not, yet these people are being treated as if they do, and their names are being flagged the exact same way that Jane Clifts was. As they go from community to community, an automated notification is sent via phone, or email, and the members of those communities do follow them around. Under these laws, the workplaces are sharing these listings with other workers, the community, and family members. For those closer to the target, a letter is sent out, just like it was with Jane Clift. Remember Skipp, this innocent woman was listed as medium risk, only to be seen in pairs, and added to a registry with violent sexual offenders.

So Skipp if you were lead to believe that Gang Stalking was something else, or that it does not exist you are dead wrong. As a private investigator, I honestly hope that you will give your clients the service they deserve and take a through look into the information that is being provided to you. It’s been well researched, well documented, and it is fact. If you have any points you are unsure of, please feel free to drop by again.

I do once again appreciate you taking the time, and I would love to hear back from you, after your review the information provided.

More Jane Clift case file references.

http://nearlylegal.co.uk/blog/

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Conclusion

I think this case does have some relevance to housing law. It touches on a situation that (in my experience anyway) comes up in practice where a client has information about them, possibly highly prejudicial to them, shared between organisations. The case requires an authority to consider the proportionality of that distribution lest it be vulnerable to a claim for defamation. No HRA claim was brought, so this decision is, strictly speaking, confined to a claim for defamation, but in my view the reasoning on the duty of public bodies has wider application.

In practical terms it means that public bodies should be rather more careful about keeping records of alleged criminality or anti-social behaviour and about any distribution of those records. That, in my view, can only be a good thing. Calling a document a “Violent Persons Register” if you know full well that some of those persons have never used violence.
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Clift Case additional reading
Clift Case additional readings 2

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She sensed that, everywhere she went, there was “whispering, collaboration, people scurrying about”. “Everywhere I went – hospitals, GPs, libraries – anywhere at all, even if I phoned the fire service, as soon as my name went on to that system, it flagged up ‘violent person marker, only to be seen in twos, medium risk’.”

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“These people have this ability to do this and they can abuse it. Not many people know, I didn’t even know, that such a register existed.

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Jane CliftJane Clift: Libel victory after a four-year legal battle

Jane Clift saw it as her public duty to report a drunk she saw trampling flowers in a park.

But her efforts led to a surreal nightmare in which she was branded potentially violent and put on a council blacklist with thugs and sex attackers.

Her details were circulated to an extraordinary range of public and private bodies, including doctors, dentists, opticians, libraries, contraceptive clinics, schools and nurseries. Their staff were advised not to see her alone.

The 43-year-old former care worker was forced to withdraw an application to become a foster parent and, eventually, to leave the town where she had lived for ten years.

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September 25, 2010 Posted by | Gang Stalking | , , , , , , , , , | 2 Comments

How do we stop Gang Stalking?

So people keep asking what we can do to stop Gang Stalking?

I was on a forum recently and one person told people they could stop Gang Stalking by moving to the heart of the forest, and destroying their cellphone. Sure if you wish to disconnect from society, live off the scraps of the forest, and leave your stuff behind when you move this might just work, but otherwise, most targets need real solutions as they go through months, and then years of being systemically destroyed.

Now these people are stalking a lot of us because they deem us, or believe us to be mentally ill, on drugs, perverts, whatever. For those being listed as mentally ill, you would think that the logical thing to do would be to get a mental health examination, but from the articles pertaining to the psychiatric reprisal, we learn that psychiatrists are all too willing to list innocent, sane people as mentally ill, thus getting an examination will not necessarily clear you.

What we could do is get out own team, eg. A threat assessment team, to review decisions that have been made by others. Eg. In the Jane Clift case if there was a none bias committee she could have appealed to, to see if her listing was justified, it could have saved her four years of legal trouble, and having to leave her community.

The problem many of us have is that we have never seen our community files, we don’t know the information that has been listed. I do know there is a lot of false information in mine, just on things that I have observed, that these people believe to be true. I do know they have falsely listed me as having some sort of a mental illness, because I dared to take some company to task for harassment. The problem is having open access to files, and a none partial party that is willing to listen, and understand that these files have a lot of false information. Staged incidents, incidents that do not even involve the target, like Jiverly Wong did, but the lies do not seem to matter, it’s just what people are willing to believe.

The other solution of course is there are villages for the mentally ill. Those who are homeless might be able to take advantage of these communities that are springing up, again the problem with this is that many targets though falsely listed as mentally ill, are not mentally ill. When you are desperate however, this could be a temporary safe harbour, but ofcourse this is what they want. Targets housed together so they can “keep an eye on the mentally ill.”

The best solution would be to get the laws changed, thus targets who are listed, must be informed that they have been added to the registry, they must be informed for what they have been added, thus they have a legal right to pursue action, and to ensure the information listed on their files is not one sided. I think this is the best solution, but could take years to implement.

Now there are groups who have caught the eye of politicians, surely that will help? To be honest you can have a thousand groups, with the eye of a thousand politicians and that will not help if they are misleading and looking at false precepts, or stalking gangs, etc. I have yet to hear any of these groups address the occupational health and safety laws, and the mental health laws that are being used to list targets, till this silence is broken, and addressed, these groups could do a thousand campaigns, but it it’s not the right one, it will just waste the time, energy and resources that targets don’t have to waste.

At the end of the day, exposure and awareness is still the key. Four years ago, I had to fight to keep my threads on forums, they would get deleted, my accounts banned, the threads would get disrupted by fake targets, and then get closed. Any time head way was being made, they would block it, just to protect this system.

Things have changed somewhat. The conspiracy sites, and some extremist sites are now fully aware of what Gang Stalking is. Gang Stalking is slowly making it’s way into some of the more mainstream forums. There are still those who try to dismiss it off hand as an urban legand, or a sign of mental illness, but there are others who discuss it openly, and in some ways it’s getting normalized. The idea is to get the normalization to occur much more rapidly, while keeping the topic relevant. Eg. Mobbing is exposed, but someday’s I am not sure this makes any difference to the targets of mobbing. There is little point in getting this normalized to the stage where it becomes irrelevant. Eg. Priests molesting children had it’s shock value, but today stories of this do not cause the same outrage, even though it still happening to a large degree. It’s become normalized, but not as relevant as it once was.

So moving forward, targets are the best for exposing this, if we stay on targeted forums, and don’t mingle with others, the information will not get out. The idea is to mingle, share information, but share good information. The term Gang Stalking is the term I use. Most targets after trying the organized stalking term, seem to switch back in a lot of cases to Gang Stalking. It’s just the most popular term. I think Organized Gang Stalking is also ok, but use what suites you the best, I don’t care what term people use, as long as the correct concept is conveyed, and what is behind this is conveyed.

September 25, 2010 Posted by | Gang Stalking | , , , , , | 99 Comments