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Facebook friend or foe?

Facebook.
CIA government database opperation?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpLNlSKugHw

What if I said to you, fill out this survey for me. It will have information such as

-Resume
-former jobs
-places you have been
-books you have read
-all your friends
-family
-lovers
-associates
-old schools
=old companies
-who you associate with now
-group affiliations
-religious

It will also have any other personal details that you want to provide.

I am not only going to use this information to profile you, but to help me in profiling those around you. I will use the information to advertise to you, to help you find groups and other people that might be of interest to you, but I will also use it for other purposes, would you say yes?

What if I told you that this information would some day be used to find you, and anyone associated with you, should you speak out against the government?

What If I told you this information would be used to find you should you commit a crime, or just be accused of one, guilty or not.

What if I told you this info would be used to find you, should you ever flee the country, or try to go underground?

Don’t believe it, think again, Facebook is so much more than you expected.

Let’s say something happens and you have to go on the run, who is going to help you? It’s not usually going to be strangers, we are all commented. By giving out who you went to high school, middle school, university with, you have cut off that circle. By giving out the groups you are associated with, you have cut off that circle. By giving out the places you have been, you have cut off that circle. Library records, now they have a way to look for you based on reading habits. Etc.

You are boxing yourself into a corner and don’t even know it. If the day ever comes when something does happen, you blog something someone does not like, you make a comment, you have to pack and leave for any reason, no one will be able to help you, because the information is out there.

The pictures you share, all those biometrically recognisable faces. Everything you put out there is shared, and once the information is out there, it is not getting erased. Once it’s on the net, expect it to be there forever.

I don’t use facebook, but I know others who do. I have heard a couple of fun stories. When people commit crimes or are accused of crimes, wanted for questioning, etc, one of the first things cops do is go to facebook. They find out who people’s friends are, their families, connections are, where they have been, group affiliations etc.

I also had one person who does not use facebook anymore tell me, that when they were on the site, they had a pop up message, I don’t know what it’s called, but apparently you have lists of friends, and they have friends, well the pop up said, based on your list, you might know this person and might want to add them to your friendship list. The person in question who got the pop up, did know the person and it scared this person enough to get them off facebook. They are cross checking and scanning information. Seeing who knows who, who had what affiliations, who went to school with who, who is connected. Connections that you might not even think about, yet they knew.

I am not saying this can only be used for criminals, but I am saying if you value your privacy and the time ever comes when you have to hide, get out of the country, or disagree with the government, are accused of a crime even falsely, you have no place to hide. They know who is a friend of a friend of a friend, who is associated with this group, who went to this place, that, in their past, if you are on the run, where you are likely to go, and who you are likely to connect with, and who those people are connected with.

People nowadays are different than people of the past. Technology can help us, but look at the type of society that we are in. We are coming up on a surveillance society, and because of that, it might be a good idea, to not provide the government database with all your information. Information that you would be peeved off at to realise that others had, if they got it in some other way, but information that you are all too willing to freely give and share.

Use facebook if you want, but just be aware of what you are giving out. It’s not a matter of being I have done nothing wrong, I have nothing to worry about, the time will come where that will not matter. Becareful about what you are putting out there.

Also keep in mind that this information is being aggregated with other lists and other bits of information to paint a very detailed picture of you.

Don’t get me wrong, facebook from what I have heard is a great way to get together groups, etc, but if those groups are all being put together on a government controlled website, is that a good idea for your specific group? Would you go to FBI, or CIA head quarters and hold your meetings there? If so then you have nothing to worry about, or think about.

Yes they also keep trying to get me to use facebook, and I always give the same response.

June 28, 2009 Posted by | CIA, Controlled society, Facebook, Internet | , , , , , , , , , , , , , | Leave a comment

Down with snitching clearified

https://gangstalking.wordpress.com/2009/06/24/down-with-the-snitching/
I blogged the above post really early in the morning and so not a good time for blogging, so I thought I would go over it, I made a lot of points and i want to make sure I did it correctly.

Construction projects.

Many targets complain about these, and in my personal experience, they use these projects as an excuse to help with the monitoring and surveillance of the area.

Sure there is always construction ongoing so how can we be sure it’s directed at us. I have lived several years on the planet, and there has often been construction ongoing, but never like this.

It’s not just construction at the last two locations that lasted for months or years on end, it’s going to interviews, and by the time you get out a little construction, or drilling in the street you are going to pass just springs up. It’s happened a few times, coincidence? A few times too many.

It happens for me and most other targets I know. As we are able to compare notes, this is a frequent theme that comes up, and they also see a pattern of extraordinary construction that has gone out of bounds.

Companies closing or change of owners.

This is another thing that I have noticed. Changes of owners. Let’s say you had a store where the family were not going along with the snitching, suddenly they are out of business, or the store ownership changes. The things that I have further noticed is that within this change, specific products that were available, that the store specialized in are not there. Which makes no sense.

Targets complain about stores being out of products they use when they get there, even if they go to other locations, the products are out of stock.

This sounds crazy at first, but it’s not. They watch and record everything that we buy. There is always someone behind us in the line, to mentally record the products the target purchased. They also watch what we take off the shelf, so they know if our diets change. They know which products to be out of, or if they can stop ordering all together.

In comparing notes amongst several targets, this is a pattern that they have also recorded and noted.

In the DT Stockton report he also documents the means that they use to put companies out of business. I don’t know if the document is authentic, but much of what it says, sounds valid.

In my own experience, what I have seen with my customers is them being paid off or ordered this that or the other for not working with me. Eg. Trying to get my customers to leave from working with me. The ones that have stayed have recorded Gang Stalking patterns in their own lives. Based on some of what I hear back about what is happening this seems to be the case. Either go along with the system or be bowled over by it. This was the same with the Stasi, refuse to spy, have your life messed with.

Fired

I spoke of a group that had messed with my phones and performed other petty events that made me choose to change location and disassociate with them, while still in the work placed. They also got me written up. This is correct and first hand experience.

Getting me fired. I had heard from a third party, not related or associated with the story that person B) had been the cause. Since the third party would have no reason to lie, they were either correct, or if mistaken then it was not intentional, but this is what I heard back.

I did not mean to imply that person A) had requested for person B) to take such actions. What I meant to imply was that because of the association, person B) was inclined to take such actions.

Eg. I once had another, unrelated situation, where a  friend come up and told me that person B) who was also friend with my friend, person A), that person B) hated me. I was really surprised, and I was like what? Why? Apparently because of my friendship with person A) for no other reason. My friend said person B) was really jealous of the the friendship and just hated my guts, and to watch my back. Other things were said, but you get the idea. So it’s not to indicate that person A) made person B) take action against me, but person B) hated me, because of my associating with person A).

 

People will hate for stupid reasons.

Back to the first situation, anyways I did later run into these two on separately on different occasions and I did just walk away and ignore them both. So that was also first hand experience.

I think when some people are around you, they bring bad things into your realm, be in this one or another. (If you believe such things, and when they are gone, your life get’s better.) I believe some others bring good things into your life, and when they are around, things just get better and better.

In my experience if someone cares about you, really cares about you, it’s like a protective shield, I don’t care if it’s a best friend, love, child, parent, etc, when someone cares about you, truly cares about you, they bring, honor, grace, and love into your life, and good energy towards you and things go good.

I find others with selfish or bad intentions towards you, or who hate you, bring you down, and create very negative situations, and should be avoided at all cost, on all realms. I think the difference shows.

If you are in a situation, friendship, and you have doubts or questions, just ask yourself, what kinds of experiences, situations, events, do they bring in your life, how does it make your soul feel? That’s a good way to start to gauge if this person is an asset or a liability for your life.

Some people feel good to be around, you might even feel happy to be around them, but they could still be an energy draining type of person, and bring bad things into your realm. It’s about energy, and you want to connect with the right types of people. People who are feeders, who feed off of others, can associate and they will be just fine, because they have nothing to lose, and they give out nothing, but if you then place yourself in that situation, you might notice a lot of negative happenings in your life, and it might be a good idea to disconnect and disassociate from that situation. Usually when you do, you will see an improvement in your life. Some situations are unhealthy.

Fishing expeditions.

They try to find out what targets are sensitive to? what they will react to? What you can use to engage them? There is usually what I call a conductor telling people where to sit, where to stand, should they approach the target, when to conduct an action when not to. In this regard it’s more coordinated then we realise.

 
Jiverly and Kimveer

I don’t believe that they ever found the Gang Stalking sites. I think having a community to socialize with could have been very helpful. I think it might have help to stop some of this from happening.

 

Police Controlled

They don’t really have to be police controlled. You have lot’s of co-workers and other in the community, that are just regular snitches, that are more than happy to mess with your stuff. Remember in regular case of mobbing we hear about this stuff all the time. Stealing stuff, messing with their things, and other parasitic mobbing behaviours. They don’t have to be police controlled snitches. I was just pointing out that if you are in desperate situations it can be easier to manipulate you.

Immigration

These people have my full sympathy. I don’t believe their immigration situations should be used, to get them to do things, or as leverage, but this is getting used. I think it’s horrible. If you thought the drug cases were bad this is worst.

Imagine being a mother or a father, separated from your kids, you have no way of getting in communication with them, seeing them etc, and you want them to come here, and you have a gun being held to your head. You have some third party holding you hostage in this way, and manipulating you. Your situation is just as vulnerable, if not more vulnerable then the drug informants.

The same is true for husbands kept from their wives, wives kept from husbands. Kids kept from dying or sick parents.

A lot of immigrants are hard working, they come here and just like everyone else they want a chance. To manipulate them like this is cruel and wrong, and it should never be used as leverage, but in a Stais like society, everything is used as leverage. You attack and go after people’s vulnerabilities. I think it’s wrong, and I feel very sad for them.

That’s why I don’t think they should be used. If people like Rachel Hoffman were vulnerable due to their situation, then immigrants are equally as vulnerable because of their circumstances and they should not be used and manipulated that way.

 

Portrayal of a target

I mentioned that they are going for the crazy thing the same way that Russia did. This is not made up, I have heard this back many times. I again think that’s funny. You have people saying that being on the Internet is a sign of mental illness, so I guess a lot of people are crazy. I always wonder who get’s to decided these things?

As I have also mentioned as time goes on, I get other things, they go fishing and try to add on other things. So you just have to watch your back.

Torture

Some people think that this is just about the target being sleep deprived. If you had someone using a laser on you, or radar gun, or transducers below the dry wall, then maybe you would understand that it’s also physical torture.

Then you have the psychological things. People trying to get you upset so that they will get you to lash out. So  a lack of sleep, being tortured, then you are expected to function, while being constantly provoked, and I did mention the complete stupidity of many in this program, added to their lack of a moral center, and their ability to forget what’s legal or moral, anything to fit in, and go along with the group and you have dangerous situations.

It is not the lone event, it is the accumulation, done over a period of time. This is the reason why mobbing had been so successful, and we have seen mobbing targets snap by just being mobbed at work. Targeted Individual have a Triple fight on their hands. They are mobbed at work, in the community, and in their homes, plus they get the added benefit of torture.

This is why I speculate that this might well be getting used to groom targets to snap. If you know what makes someone tick, you might be able to get them to snap when you want to as well. I mean these actions, these activities are being recorded for someone, for something, and so this is a reasonable speculation.

The windows shaking, and the walls dancing, would be more transducer stuff.  But if you touch the walls, if feels like a sheet of electricity, in my opinion. It just vibrates. It feels so freaky.

Corrupted Results

I changed my minds, even if these people are not controlled informants, they are equally as dangerous and capable of giving corrupted results.

Anytime you have a country that has it’s citizens spying on each other, you are going to run into bad situations. The police controlled informants, on the surface have more vulnerabilities than the other informants, but each are capable of giving corrupted results, or following secondary agendas. It’s just with police controlled informants, they might not know their rights, be more desperate, and more at the mercy of these people. However on a psychological level, the person who wants to fit in, who wants to avoid being targeted themselves, can be equally bullied into performing immoral actions.

We saw this in Stasi Germany with what good people were wiling to do to their neighbours, friends, family, lovers, children, parents, and we saw this is in Hitler’s Germany, with the community helping to round up persons of Jewish origin. The state can motivate people to do horrendous things to each other.

June 28, 2009 Posted by | Gang Stalking | , , , , , , , , , , , , | 2 Comments

Ignore them

Ignore them, and hopefully they will just crawl away.

The term bullies suit these creatures very well. They honestly to God want someone to play with, the more attention you give them, the more they love it.

Most of these people have nothing, and never will have anything special or worthwhile in their life outside of this.

Don’t expect remorse or understanding, just like the East German Stasi, most have to convince themselves that what they are doing is good. A kind of Stockholm Syndrome, that allows these people to self identify with what the state is doing to them, and those around them. In a normal functioning society, the citizenry is not held hostage to an informant system. Again many do this as their own free wills, but what I see is some targets who after a time give in and start to go along with this, and that’s why I am suggesting that there might be a form of Stockholm happening, because how else do you explain going along with this, after.
Police Reports.

If you do file a police report, file one report, give brief descriptions, stick to what you can prove, if you have any evidence, make a copy and give the copy to the police.

Write up the report, and hand deliver it. Don’t do it over the phone. Get a number for the report that you filed.

Request your freedom of information act, to make sure that the report was correctly filed, and that it was filed in general.

If you keep calling the police, they have a record of the numbers that call them, and they can record you as being a nuisance caller, or emotionally disturbed. In many cases these officers might well be aware of what is happening. Just make the report, and don’t call them unless you have evidence, and always keep the original, and video what you have or back it up, but don’t just give evidence over, or it might accidentally get lost.

 

Blogging.

When we blog, we do it to try to wake people up to what is happening to us, but do not give them any clues or ideas. The more we blog about what affects us, the more these idiots try to use it in the programing. You can name the Stimuli that they are trying to use, or briefly describe what they are trying to do, but be brief in how it’s affecting you. These people feed off of this, and so they need to know what is working and what is not. I have tested this for the last over a year. Every time I report an action, I can like trained monkeys get them to start doing more of it, offline.

Everytime I give feedback to something illegal they are doing, they will do more of it, if they can get away with it.

 

Reporting Crime.

If you are reporting crime that others have to witness, then try to have evidence first. Eg. If you report that you are getting vibrations or heat in your home, and the maintenance person has to come and check it out, you can be sure that is when the vibrations will stop, and after he/she leaves that will be when they will start up again. They like doing this so they can report that you are being paranoid, or just making stuff up, a sort of schizoaffective disorder. They lie, and they are dishonest. Even if you had someone who really wanted to investigate this, the same thing would happen and they would not know that they are being manipulated.

 

Witnesses.

Because they are parasites and bullies, they don’t like witnesses. If it looks like you are video taping them, recording them, or exposing them, they get real quite. The same works if you are with someone or talking to someone. They are like flies buzzing around someones head.

Energy

They are parasites and they feed in many cases off of energy. Learn about psychic shielding. Learn how to protect your energy. They love it when they can keep you in that stressed out mood, or in that bad energy mode. When I am happy they are sad. Be happy because you want to be happy, but realise that this does ruin their day.

Ignore them.

Honestly, don’t pretend to ignore them, just ignore them. They are stupid, they are so stupid it must her to be them. Many are as stupid as dirt, but that would be an insult to dirt. The more I am exposed to them, the more I realise that they are just not worth it. I don’t mean to generalize, but most are just not worth your time.

I know it’s hard to ignore them, especially when they take their job so seriously that they can’t even follow the instructions that the conductor is giving them, or they are so F**king stupid, they have to come and sit almost on your lap to watch you. Thank them for the lap dance, but then ask them to bugger off. Mostly try to not engage them.

Read a book, listen to music, talk on a cell phone. They are in their own sick little game. You do have to be mindful of it however, because many of these people are just stupid, and this is the only thing they have going in their lives, many will go outside of the rules of any kind of human common sense to try to get your attention, and to keep you engaged. Remember if they lose the target they lose the game. 

The more they can get you to play the game the better chance they have of getting you to freak out, lose it on them, and get yourself into trouble.

The Conductor.

There is always someone conducting things. If I am in a mood to pay them any attention, I try to find the conductor. It’s fun to mess with their game, but it’s better to ignore them, but if you do record them, and can get away with it, take the picture of the one conducting things on that particular ride. Eg. I had a conductor recently trying to get people to instigate little things, I won’t say what. Once I spotted him, and honed in on him, and it was more interesting. I will leave it at that. They use what we write online for feedback, what we discuss on the phone. Most of the clues that the clueless get are from us, so let’s not give them any.

To the best of your ability, find the things in this world that are worthy and that are valuable, and it’s not them. They are not worth it. You are of more value than this, have more worth, and don’t have the time to waste on this.

Legal.

Do try to explore every legal angel that we can. proof is good. If we can get them caught, or find laws to exploit, or use things like the ACLU’s recent announcement that these types of investigations are ongoing. Remember just like when the police and their controlled snitches get caught with their pants down these people are the same things. Until they are put back in their proper places they will just keep running wild.

Power

It’s the only thing they have in their lives. This program does not use the best or the brightest, in many cases the ones that are doing the stupidest things, are the dregs of society, the ones people would normally spit at, ignore, or bully themselves. They feel empowered with the so called fake power they have been given, and they love it, it makes them feel like somebody, it’s no different than the kid that joins a street gang and who will do anything to fit in, but I have respect for kids who would join gangs, in comparison to these people. I do not advocate joining gangs, I am just saying at least mixed up kids in gangs can be helped, most of these people can not.

Belonging is the other reason they join, they don’t fit in otherwise, and this gives them a sense of community. They don’t care if that sense of community involves, breaking into someones home, poisoning someones child diabetic medicine, driving someone off the road, driving someone to suicide, they have no moral center left in many cases, and this is what they have. They believe that they are on the side of good, and they much like the Nazi’s, or the Stasi, act accordingly.

Again this is a generalization, there will be exceptions to every rule, they obviously don’t all act like this, but enough do, that’s you have to have some way to defend yourself.

They like to portray the target as the problem, when the truth is many of these people have problems themselves, and the government gives them free reign to try to take out their problems on others. Normal functioning people do not show the level of pathology that many of these people exhibit.

There only goal is to try to engage the target, continually trying to find some new hook so that they don’t lose their participant in the game. These people would probably be on twitter begging for followers if they did not have you to follow around. They have menial lives and this in many cases fills avoid.

Many are from countries where this is a normal way of life, and they think nothing of it.

Lights

You really do have to be lights in a world that has gone dark.
Try to meditate and pray as you start your day.

 

Weapons

A lot of times they do try to look like they are something special. They like us to think they are using very sophisticated weapons. In many cases these creatures are using things like lasers, radar guns, thing below the floors or the dry wall, that can cause vibrations. The more we know about what they are using the better, that way we can give accurate descriptions to others. We will have less chances of those who do watch our online community, accusing us of making things up, or just being crazy.

“And perps can purchase transducers of the type used in industrial sonic baths and mechanically fix them with screws to floor joists or wall studs underneath repaired drywall, completely hidden from view of normal inspection. The transducers will make your floors vibrate and probably create heat. They spend a lot of time hiding their stuff in houses or apartments so it won’t be found under simple visual inspection. If somebody really decides to start looking they *will* start finding these things. These tactics are part of the never ending “smoke and mirrors” routine. Apparently the perps get a “charge” out of inducing false perceptions.”

I like to call it walls vibrating, or dancing, either way it’s the same thing. Thank you so much to the person who posted this so many years ago, it helped me so much.

Smoke and mirrors, is the best way to describe what they do. They do want you to think that they are all powerful, but they are amateurs in many ways. They want to look powerful, so when we write about this that and the other, and the state of the art this that they are using, they feel better about themselves.

Many times they have not even thought of using XY or Z on us, and then we might blog about it, and it gives them an idea. Thinking is not their strong point.

I try to remember to not go off on rants, but I have my good days and bad.
Beyond that if you can go without blogging about them, or anything else, just have them fade into nothing.

I hope this information helps some of you that are out there.

June 28, 2009 Posted by | Awareness, Bullying, changing vibrations, Citizen Informants, Community harassment, community mobbing, Conformity, Conspiracy, control, Controlled society, Corruption, Covert investigations, Electronic harassment, Gang Stalking, Gangstalking, Gaslighting, Informants, Insane, Internet, Intimidation, mobbing | , , , , , , , , , , , , | 7 Comments