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The US vs John Lennon

I was really surprised after watching this movie. I know about the Beatles, and then I knew some things about John and Yoko Ono, but I had no idea about the full extent of his harassment by the US government.

This was a really eye opening movie. During my research into Gang Stalking I realised that John Lennon was just one more person who had complained about some of the things that Gang Stalking targets complain about. Wire taps, harassment, being followed around in public overtly by strangers, but I had no idea how much he was harassed.

I mean you think that he was famous, rich, etc and so he could avoid these problems, but that’s so far from the truth. When you watch this movie, it’s nothing like that, and the movie really humanizes him.

Apparently he became a real anti-war activist during the Vietnam war. That time period is a lot like this one except people protested back then, and we still protest now, but not as much. Music was allowed to have an influence, and now if you read the book “the covert war on rock,” it does not have that same chance that it once did.
He fought to stay in the US for 5 years. Apparently his very simple and innocent anti-war stance upset then president Nixon and he got the political machine in gear against Lennon and sought to destroy him. Like this machine constantly does, it looks for vulnerabilities and came up with an immigration rap. Sounds familiar. They were really trying to kick him out of the country for 5 years of his life. Finally he got fed up and he sued them. His lawyer thought that he didn’t have a chance in hell, but he was able to prove presidential interference in his affairs.

Then the Watergate scandal broke, Nixon resigned, and then him and Yoko and Sean had a semi normal family life, then he was assassinated.

The movie is pretty self explanatory and it matches the pattern that has been seen before. It’s really eye opening, because you think that people like Britney Spears, and other stars would be untouchable to things like this, but this just shows that they are not.

In many ways they are average and vulnerable like the rest of the population. I think we know that on some level, but this movie really put things into perspective.

Here are a couple of quotes from the movie that I found interesting. There are a few more, but these were interesting to me.

{One more thing about John Lennon, it seems off topic, but he reported that he saw a flying saucer, sounds out there, but in reading about other events that have been under surveillance, there was also another report of flying sauces over a rally that was most likely under surveillance, where they reported the same thing. He thought it was a something positive at the time, but it’s just something interesting to note.}
Direct quote from the movie.

“His activities were being monitored. He says that he thinks that they wanted him to notice. He was scared paranoid.”

“He believed all of his telephone conversations were being monitored.

He believed that he was being followed  around New York City.

He believed that friends that he had thought were friends were secret Informants for different intelligence communities. ”

“Another effect of the Sinclair thing was it probably further alerted the FBI, John Mitchell, Holdermin,  ?, and Nixon that something needed to be done to neutralize John Lennon. ”

 

“When it gets down to having to use violence then you are playing the systems games. The establishment irritates you, pull your beard and flick your face to make you fight, because once they have you violent then they know how to handle you. ”
It’s interesting that Markus Wolf takes credit for perfecting the concept of the Romeo Spy, but even as far as back then, it was not above the American government to implement the same techniques. Just a thought.

Anyways the movie is really good. The music in the movie really shows his progress as an artist. I understand a lot more about him now, and it’s a real eye opener. It shows that things did not change that much, they in fact seem to just have expanded the techniques and methods to others. It really puts things into perspective. At times when watching the movie, you could not help but juxtaposition what was happening in this era with the wars from that time period, Vietnam and Cambodia and anti-war movement, just interesting.

http://www.gangstalkingworld.com/Social/article.php?sid=161

I had forgotten this, but even back then there was governmental cooperation, between Canada and the US in regards to spying on citizens. Along with the FBI, the RCMP in Canada were also spying on John Lennon.

[quote]The RCMP advised U.S. officials the radio programming was intended to help promote the planned Mosport event. The Mounties noted the venue had been vetoed by the Ontario Municipal Board and “at the present time it is not certain whether the ‘festival’ will proceed at some other location.”

The ambitious musical event collapsed under the weight of organizational disputes.

Lennon’s rabble-rousing activism of the early 1970s drew the attention of the FBI, which like the RCMP spied on numerous left-wing individuals and groups suspected of subversion.

A memo to the FBI director, noting enclosure of the RCMP correspondence, carries the subject line, “New Left – Foreign influence – Canada.”

The FBI records were released under the U.S. Freedom of Information Act in response to a request from California history professor Jon Wiener, who waged a long legal fight for disclosure. Some material in the FBI file remains classified.
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Maybe all these countries did was invite more players to the game with their community policing programs and anti terror laws. The movie is worthwhile watching.

December 13, 2008 Posted by | Awareness, Beatles, CIA, Citizen Informants, Civilian Spies, Cointelpro, community policing, Covert investigations, domestic spying, Gang Stalking, Gangstalking, John Lennon, past, present, revolution, Spying, Stalking, Stasi, State target, Surveillence, Targeted Individual | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | 3 Comments

Gang Stalking United

http://www.GangSTalkingUnited.com

Gang Stalking United, because the world was just not enough. I want an empire.  😆  😉

Seriously I liked the way the name sounded. It reminded me of Manchester United, or X-Men United. The site is about coming together and getting to the heart of the matter. Real targets want a place to hang out and share ideas and information. Informants and government agents want to find a place to hang out, disrupt and pass on disinformation. Researchers want to look into this matter a little more. Social Psychologist students want to study this, so therefore Gang Stalking United was created for this purpose.

I can assure you that there will be disinformation agents on the site. They will probably out number targets, but the way the site is set up, hopefully they will do limited damage, and the research will outwiegh what they are able to do. We will also be able to report posts on the site, so if something really harmful is posted, we can self moderate. It’s not a sure fire method, but in anticipation of various matters, the site was created.

Here is my first post.

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Hi extratired1, 

I will say welcome to the forum. 

Since Cointelpro was suppose to be officially disbanded, we might have trouble saying that it’s definitely Cointelpro, even though I do think it did carry over probably under other names. I see the obvious connections in recent times, to what has happened in the past.

What we do know is that other countries had similar programs to Cointelpro. Canada had V.I.P.S., and there does seem to have been cooperation between Canada and the US even back then. 

http://www.gangstalkingworld.com/Social/article.php?sid=161 

 The reason there has been so much discussion and debate about what is happening is because Cointelpro was the name the American program was known to use, where the targeting that we are seeing is being done by various governments. 

Eg. Other targets have said, that they see the targeting continue even after moving to various countries. This suggests wide scale corporation between many governments. Which we can show is currently happening using anti-terror laws. 

There are reports coming in from many other countries reports that this type of surveillance is happening. 

Cointelpro in theory was suppose to be limited to the states, that’s why it might not be correct to label it all Cointelpro, but again I agree that we are pretty well seeing many of the same old traits, with some new ones that were not previously reported. 

This website is going to go through all the information, and then take it from there. On a ground level I am still personally going to refer to the targeting as Gang Stalking. 

In addition to the above, much of the research conducted by myself and others shows that what is happening is much wider than just a program to control dissent. What we are seeing is multifaceted. It’s government cooperation across many countries, and at various levels. The indication is that this might be a part of a pre step towards what some are calling the one world government. 

Again that is why this forum is about research. Trying to find current information to corroborate the findings. I will be placing links relevant videos on the site over the next few weeks. Anyone on this website, disinformation agents, genuine targets, the general public, psychologist, social psychology students, etc are welcome to also share their findings, research, ask questions, and help us come to a collective conclusion if possible.[/quote]

December 13, 2008 Posted by | activism, Awareness, Cointelpro, domestic spying, Gang Stalking, Gangstalking | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | 1 Comment