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Paranoid Propaganda

http://gangstalking.wordpress.com/2008/12/20/paranoid/

Please read the above post.

I made this into a full post, because I very firmly feel that whenever accusations of this kind come up, they must be addressed and set where they belong. A poster from the forum, found my blog posting, and left a comment. Now maybe the poster left it for good, as useful feedback, or maybe it’s just another informant, who is trying to make Gang Stalking sites look like they encourage delusions. As I have said before in dealing with now hundreds if not thousands of people who have come through the site, the long term feedback has been that they feel validated, most knew that something was happening, but did not know what. Some considered crazy as an option, but crazy did not match what they were seeing and most are people who kept looking for other answers to what was happening to them.

I don’t know what the situation was like in Russia when the state started saying that dissidents were crazy. I imagine that many tried to prove that they were not, and tried to also expose what was happening. I do know that in Russia part of what got the abuses exposed were target telling their stories, till there were enough that people started listening. I believe that targets must do similar if they are going to be heard and expose what our governments are now doing.

http://gangstalking.wordpress.com/2009/11/10/too-much-truth/

[quote]I am a member of that forum. The member being gangstalked that you mentioned has said that she is a diagnosed schizophrenic who doesn’t want to take her medication. I assume that you haven’t read any threads posted by her other than the gangstalking one. She said she is being gangstalked by evil or negative energies because she knows who the antichrist is. You were banned because you unknowningly reinforced her delusions.[/quote]

This is the reason the account was banned.

Gangstalking, stop spamming with your links. You seem to be here on a propaganda mission. We don’t allow those kinds of accounts.

Spamming, I was not, at least not intentionally and the links could have been removed. I was posting researched information, not a propaganda mission.

Just because she has been diagnosed as crazy, does not mean that she is. Gloria Naylor a famous target was diagnosed as crazy and is not.

Without knowing more about her case, it’s impossible to know if she really is crazy, or a target or both. The targeting can make you crazy. Just look at what happened in Russia. Targets of the state were consistently diagnosed as crazy.

In America today, the psychiatric reprisal is being used on more and more people who are not crazy.

http://www.harassment101.com/Article5.html

http://www.psychologistethics.net/
http://scientific-misconduct.blogspot.com/search/label/lisa

Good sources of info about people who the state tried to put away as being crazy. It does happen.

Most people choose to believe that someone who talks about being followed around are crazy first and then they ask questions. I do the opposite, I choose to believe that people are sane first and then I ask the questions.

If posting articles about, Cointelpro, The Stasi, and our current surveillance society is going to encourage people to go crazy, or encourage paranoid delusions, then it’s unfortunate, because it’s reality. We live in a surveillance society. Innocent people are being stalked and monitored.

As evidence was presented, questions were asked. She said she knew who the anti-christ was and that she could speak to the dead. Lot’s of people think that, without necessarily being crazy. I did ask her why she felt that way in both cases.

The only thing that I did further was share with her information that myself and others have discovered about the multi generational aspect of Gang Stalking, which is also a fact.

I deeply feel sorry, and concerned about people who think that having good solid information will make people fall further into delusions. God forbid she go to sites about surveillance operations, or read books on such, or watch a tv show on such. God forbid, because I guess that those would be guilty of feeding her delusions as well.

This came up last year interestingly enough. God forbid people read the bible and it fuel their delusions of an omnipotent being that controls the world who they can’t see, but who they believe others have talked to. God further forbid such people to to Churches, Mosques, Synagogue and find others who further their delusions.

Providing a person with credible information about a problem that is happening to others is just that, it’s information that is available in books, on T.V., Youtube, and in other places. This information about Cointelpro, Mobbing, The Stasi, and other forms of harassment were available for years, as long as crazy people have thought that they were being stalked, which in cases like John Lennon turned out not to be paranoia.

The girl might be a real target, that possibility exists. She might also be crazy, that possibility exists. She might also be an agent who specifically is trying to link crazy and Gang Stalking. We had so much of that on Youtube, and on forums. There are agents of the state on most forums. This is a fact. Let me know if you need articles.

You could be here trying to be helpful, but you could also be here trying to link Gang Stalking with enhancing and encouraging the delusions of others. Eg. It’s not the first time this has happened, but as pointed out, these websites do not encourage delusions, anymore than watching tv shows, reading books, or visiting other sites on topic such as Cointelpro, or Stasi website.

If you are here with good intention’s then I thank you, but based on the original posting, and a discussion I had with the webmaster of the forum, that is not why I was banned. If your intentions are to try to link Gang Stalking sites with encouraging the delusions of the crazy, then we have been there done that, and you failed then a well.

Read the links that I posted. People are being set up to be declared as crazy, by our democratic countries. This is sick and wrong like it was in Russia. Because someone is declared crazy does not mean that they are. The girl was being teased and bullied. Crazy or sane that was not right and I stepped in because that is the human thing to do, and I will never regret doing the right and just human thing, in trying to stop her from being picked on. I told her that my first instinct is to believe her and you don’t know how needful that is, but then of course as I get to know her, I would look at the facts in her case and give feedback accordingly.

Even with real targets if I feel that they can not handle their targeting, I will always recommend they seek a support circle. Now I ask you what is being being believed and listened to, or being picked on and put down. She told her story, As I told the girl, I don’t know her and can not judge her crazy. I would rather take her word till more of her case is presented. Wither that is that she turns out to be yet another informant, crazy, target, or something else.

I hope that helps.

November 21, 2009 Posted by | Citizen Informants, Civilian Spies, Cointelpro, conspiracies, Conspiracy, Controlled society, crazy, dissident, Gang Stalking, Gangstalking, Informants, Social Control, Stasi, Targeted Individual, youtube | , , , , , , , , , | 8 Comments

Sept 11. An ode to faking it.

Sept 11.

This is a day about making make believe look real. A day about giving the situation at hand the look of reality and the spin that you want it to have.

Eg. Many people believe that Sept 11 happened. Where people differ is who was behind it? Did planes really hit and bring down the world trade center buildings and was the official version the real version?

For many who are familiar with documents such as Operation Northwoods it’s reason to question if the government of the United States once again planned and carried out terror on the American citizens.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

[quote]Operation Northwoods, or Northwoods, was a false-flag plan, proposed within the United States government in 1962. The plan called for CIA or other operatives to commit apparent acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Castro-led Cuba. One plan was to “develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington”.

This operation is especially notable in that it included plans for hijackings and bombings followed by the use of phony evidence that would blame the terrorist acts on a foreign government, namely Cuba.

The plan stated:

The desired resultant from the execution of this plan would be to place the United States in the apparent position of suffering defensible grievances from a rash and irresponsible government of Cuba and to develop an international image of a Cuban threat to peace in the Western Hemisphere.

Operation Northwoods was drafted by the Joint Chiefs of Staff and signed by then-Chairman Lyman Lemnitzer, and sent to the Secretary of Defense.

Several other proposals were listed, including the real or simulated actions against various U.S military and civilian targets. Operation Northwoods was part of the U.S. government’s Cuban Project (Operation Mongoose) anti-Castro initiative. It was never officially accepted or executed.[/quote]

Also recently we saw in Spain a building made out of steel that burnt for 20 hours straight but still remained standing. An amazing structure proving the power of steel to withstand heat and melting.

http://www.russiatoday.com/Top_News/2009-09-10/911-attack-reasons-towers.html/print?fullstory

[quote]In February 2005, the 32-storey Windsor Building in the financial district of Madrid, Spain was completely engulfed by flames for 20 consecutive hours. I repeat: 20 consecutive hours. The structure did not collapse. In fact, after the fire was finally extinguished, a huge construction crane was seen perched on the roof of the building as raw testimony to the practical indestructibility of steel as a construction material.[/quote]

We also when 911 happened saw building 7 fall, even though no planes had hit the building and some rightfully question why that happened?

We also saw hole in the pentagon, but many question if a plane did hit, where the wreckage of the plane was?

Also last but not least, if you are a terrorist crashing planes into a building then even if your dental records don’t last, your passports will. Even when steel buildings melt, your passports will survive,

Anyways Sept 11 an ode to faking it, and it proves you can make anything appear how you want it to be, and most will never question the official version.

Who you have slept with.

Now having watched soaps over the years, I have seen a few of these plots. Some really desperate attempts to make it seem like someone had slept with someone when they really had not, or the person had not been willing. Anything from fake pictures, fake video, fake witnesses.

Who could forget Sammie Brady drugging Austin her older sisters boyfriend to make it seem as if he had willingly slept with her when she had not. Yes Sammie turned out to be a case, but she did improve in time. (She improved in her scheming that is, but that’s another story.)

Watching Dorian Lord get a divorce from David. To get a divorce from David Dorian had to enlist her niece Blair Cramer to dress up as her double, and pretend to sleep with Dorian’s husband David, but at the last minute Dorian switched places with Blair and David none the wiser, cheated on his own wife, with his own wife.

A few fake pictures later, and the divorce was finalised. Now these plots are cute in soap operas, well not really, but in real life this is another thing that is often easily faked and never questioned, because people like to believe whatever they are told without question.

I think watching desperate characters pull off things like this in the soaps are cute, I have had opportunity in real life to watch people pull things off like this and it’s never cute. To lie and in some cases create and fake plots almost or more desperate and more harmful than things that I have seen on the soaps.

I think it shows some pretty twisted personalities. People who don’t care about ruining or slandering other people’s reputations just to make themselves feel better, and in today’s world it’s even easier than ever.

Faking Investigations.

I don’t mean that the investigations that targets are under are fake, but what is fake is what the state does to us. They make people think all sorts of things, and they make the lies look good. That’s what faking it is all about, making the lies look good and believable.

Most of us are not crazy, perverts, terrorists, extremists, etc, but that does not matter, it’s continuing to give the perception to the people, that is what matters.

Making them think that if they were not spying on each other the world would suddenly fall apart, creating that illusion, that fake need.

Going to extreme lengths to make targets look like a danger, be it having dozens of informants on their tail, making them look dangerous, etc.

I had no idea until recently the lengths they will go through to manipulate a situation to make a person look crazy or dangerous. This system is truly crazy and desperate, which equals dangerous. The asleep sheeple will believe what they are told in many cases, and it’s scary.

So this post is all about Faking it. The above three things are some of the top things I have come across. Now since I am lucky enough to be free, please feel free to add your comments about other things that people like to fake.

September 12, 2009 Posted by | 9/11, Censorship, Conformity, conspiracies, Conspiracy, Controlled society, Corruption, Covert investigations, crazy, Gang Stalking | , , , , , , , , , , , | 1 Comment

Walls

I was just thinking of the walls that separate people. Some of them are needful, such as boundaries. These let people know what’s acceptable and what is not acceptable. These walls are needed. During the course of Gang Stalking, I had to extablish a lot of these. If you don’t people will walk right over you. I mean I have these creates try all sorts of unheard of stuff. Just stuff that’s wrong. Boundaries were the best way to get some of those things stopped, they were needed and had to be implemented.

Some of them are stupid and artificial. Like money and social status. Who can walk free and who get’s to be stalked. Who get’s to be loved and who get’s to be hated in this world and why.

Some are completely unneeded. Color barriers, age, race, gender, fear, trust, anger. However these are used in society all the time to keep people apart. To control many in society. Being targets of Gang Stalking many of us have seen these barriers used to try to create fear, and hatred within us. Used to manipulate and separate in society.
Others are ones that we are not even aware of. Walls that separate one realm to the next. However once you become aware, you can never become unaware again.

Someone just reminded me how us targets put up these walls. How we learn not to trust, and learn not to hold onto things. It’s true in a lot of ways. It’s a survival instinct. I mean over the last 2 years, people that I should have been able to trust, are some of the people that have betrayed me the most. Your instinct for survival becomes to go for the hills without looking back.

People who you thought would always be there for you, situations that you always trusted, your government, family, friends, all gone. You are betrayed by everything in your life, and you learn to view things with those shades on. It’s a wall of thorn that is needed for survival. It’s what’s sane in a world that suddenly becomes insane.

Are all the walls that go up needed? Hard to say, each person has to judge this for themselves. I mean for some they have been able to keep those walls down, I say good for them. For me it was not the case. Does it mean that you always have to leave these wall up? Not always, but maybe.

There are some walls that targets do not want up. Eg. Targets with children, do not want to have the walls up around their children. Children are too important and the walls should always be left down where they are concerned.

If you happen to already be in a situation with someone who you love and who loves you back, who is not out to destroy your life, then try to keep the walls down. I get so many people writing in to me, to tell me that their families are being destroyed. One partner is being affected by the stalking more than the other. They are stressed and the family is about to fall apart, and I always tell them to fight for their families. It’s one of the best defences you have. You might want to put up a wall to defend your family, but keep the walls down within your family. I always thing that people with families would have it better, but in some ways they don’t cause they have more to loose. Yet if they can hold it together, they have more to gain.
Being single in this realms is tuff in some ways, but it’s nice in others. It’s a balance.

The idea as a target is find some of that balance. I think being a target you can get into a really closed off place, not a bad thing for survival. However as a person who has become aware that there is more to life than just what we see and experience with our physical beings, I am aware now that we sometimes live in 2 worlds at once. I realise that if you want to explore and have access to those worlds, you have to let yourself be open. Also I realise that by letting yourself get closed off, to the mystic, the divine, the happy, the joyful, the laughter, etc. You give these people what they want, you let them rob you of what they don’t have. You let them feed off of you, and that is not a good thing.

There are a lot of things I don’t want to be closed off to, but still am cause I like feeling safe, and for the longest time those walls were my protection. Trusting people does not come easy for many people, it’s just one of the things that holds us in place here. As a target we learn not to trust 100 times more than that. Not each other in some cases, and not the world at large. There are still some good people in the world, but we must help light their way as much as we must light our own, no one else is going to do it for us.

So though walls are good for somethings, and they can keep a lot of bad stuff out, sometimes they are restrictive, and preventative, and they separate you from things, people, places, realities that you really do want to be in touch with. It’s all about finding a balance.

Walls are just like people, some people are open and they share everything, and they have no walls up. I think that’s great. I think that gives you the ability to touch base with so many things, and it’s a wonderful way to be, but then other people are like me, and we are walled off, for safety, yet that also shuts things out. I realise now that both can be a bad thing, and it’s good to find balance. As a target you might tend to forget this overtime, because these people tend to strip our humanity, and they often rob us of what is good and beautify within. I think we have to fight really hard not to loose sight of that.

May 13, 2008 Posted by | Gang Stalking | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | 3 Comments

   

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