Sometimes you don’t have the truth, because you don’t want the truth. I was just watching another of those charming, yet so annoying articles that actually had the adacity to get printed recently, like November or something like that.
Now I often say it, no press is bad press, but today at this moment at time, I’am thinking it, sometimes you just don’t have the truth, because you don’t want the truth. You don’t have the credence, or the respect you deserve to have because you as a community, and a society are enabling them to print joke articles such as this, the article was just annoying, it’s another article where T.I. Targeted Individuals are hearing voices, sure you hearing freaking voices, but if the articles doesn’t do you credit, then be all over it. It’s the type of article that sites such as FFCHS, typically sponser and their minions and I am tried of it, I litterly read the article and I seriously wanted to reprove someone from their situations, I seriously wanted to remove them from situations, I seriously wanted to reprove them from their outcomes. After how hard some of us have
worked in our situations, after how hard some of us have worked in our outcomes, I serioiusly wanted to be in the correct situations, and have the correct situations, thus occuring, and thus co-happening to me.
Instead I am greeted by another article that was sutable for the inside of a birdcage, or the local washroom fascilities if you managed to forget your toilet tissue. The fact that the Threat Assessment Teams are behind this has been documented, court cases, you have them, you have a stunning court case in the form of the Jane Clift case. I am cognizant that Targeted Individuals
are out there, you typically still make sense, but you need to be in the correct situations, and have the correct situations thus occuring, and thus co-happening to you. This means when articles that are fit for the trash compactor are printing, and the latest govenment sponsored websites is noted that trying to, or attempting to take over the situations are out there, and stepping up to us, they need to be stepped back to, they need to be responded to.
Instead what I see and veiw at times is a community enabling us to go backwards in time to the stone age, the bloodly stone age, for gosh sakes, I couldn’t even believe the article, or that any editor with any credibility whatsoever enabled that to be printed as a well researched article, there were so many glaring errors, and omissions, not only that, but honestly simple mistakes as to what Gang Stalking is, vs what Electronic Harssment is, though they are losely affliated, and often one does thus occur with the other, they need not be mutually exclusive, in and in and of themselves.
I use to think that most articles, most press was suitable, even if it was not the best represented, but I have personally moved forward, so have so many others, they have the truth, and they much like myself are not willing to return to the stone age, or the bed of lies and deceptions. It’s not going to be that type if situation, but it so often is, because in those moments, if you won’t stand up for it, claim it own it, and and defend it, then others will, and they all too often still do not do justice to the Targeted Individal community, those stories have a specific spin, and bent for a reason, the moment I saw who had posted the link, i was clear that it was going to be that type of story, that type of situation.
The bloodly lameness has to stop, it has to discontine, because it does not make sense to me, it does not make sense to anyone else. You had enlightenment, any and everytime, I see or watch you deliberatly going back to the dark age, it will be that type of situation, cause I am frankly bloodly well tired of dealing with it.
The article, yeah I couldn’t even bother, just more fod for the fire, or like whatever, but the truth, not that has substance, and when I see it, and when I find it, then it makes sense, in the mean time, down with the sickness, the stupidity, and things that don’t make sense.
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Executive Order 2
Ok so I have more details of the dream, except this dream is different than the other dreams. This dream is like a recall of sorts.
Eg. In the other dreams, I am in these lame mind attics, mind stages, strangers in the dreams, and they all have these lame themes right, but this was not like those.
In this dream I am seeing the behind the scenes stuff.
Eg. I now realize that in the dream I had been walking and the person that I am walking with tells me that we have walked into a trap, but then there is nothing that we can do.
Oh and I am recalling the dream from end to start, which is weird. I don’t know how long this took place over time, or how many dreams. The recall all happened now in one dream, but I think these events might have happened over a series of dreams, and I was not aware.
So in the dream there is a mention of Andrews or St. Andrews airforce base? Possibly something about a hanger I think, but not sure about the hanger.
In the dream it’s not mind programing, it’s spirit programing. Programing for the spirit vs programing for the mind. In the dream there is talk of giving me special K. (That’s like suppose to be a drug, not the breakfast cereal.) In the dream the handler wants to use it to break the mind. Part of the programing involves violating and beating the hell out of the target. In previous dreams I have had quick flash of where someone is hitting the heck out of me, but then it’s mostly covered up by the mind stage, and it’s like quick flash.
In the dream there are special terms used, and different parts of the mind were created. In the other dreams I was sure not of this had happened, but clearly I was wrong. Different levels, and different words to access the various levels. The person that set this up has a special term just for them, that only they know. There are other trigger words, that others know, but his person has something special for just them.
The person who set this up is there for parts of this. This person at times seems to play a special role, not really a handler, but gives special commands to mind sections that only this person can access.
Remember this is all happening in the dream, but this dream was like a recall dream, unlike the other lame dreams, this dream had texture, persons that I know, persons that I did not know, but unlike the other dreams these people have texture and seem real in the dream.
The person who set’s this up gives a command to hurt and violate the person I was captured with, and I wonder, what did this person ever do to you? The person who set this up seems to enjoy the power they seem to have in the dream.
There is talk of underground bases, in one of my other dreams not this one, there was one dream that I thought was weird, someone is experimenting on me in the dream. It’s a quick flash and it does seem to be underground, unlike the other mind fluff it also had texture. In the dream I am lead to believe that his last name is mengle, but ofcourse the only one associated with that name would be long gone. The funny thing was when I looked up the wiki page, the person in my dream if I recall correctly looked like an older version of the wiki picture. (Again I am recalling a dream face, so take it for what it’s worth.)
In the dream afterwards someone implies that I am being spiritually tracked. I am lead to understand that this is spiritual programing, vs mind programing I guess? The tracking implication is that no matter where I go on the dream realm or I guess it could be an astral realm, not sure, that I will be tracked. They implied it’s like an implant, but a spiritual tracker not like a psychical tracker. Now remember this is all happening in the dream, but this dream was like more real.
The implication that I walked away from the dream was this. Eg. The dream implies that spiritual experimentations are happening, just like you would have these earth mind programs that are happening, but these are on an astral or spiritual plain of existence.
The thing is however the processes work the exact same way, eg. The splitting of the mind, the tracking of spiritual bodies. There was a mention of being linked into the underground bases, but why would you be linked into underground bases in spirit? That seems weird cause I didn’t think that would be possible.
The feeling I get is that you can remotely program someone at subconscious or spiritual level, the same way you would do in the awake world, but it’s all done while asleep. This is what I walked away from the dream thinking.
Remember this all happens in my dream. The other thing I think about in my dream is that the person who set this up, must really hate me. Naturally I know who it is, and I think this person must truly hate me, they seem to get so much pleasure from the precieved power of what is being done.
There were other things, but a lot of them are personal. I wanted to share this with you, cause it seemed really different than anything else. The other dreams are all just mind pap, but this dream was like stuff that was behind the scenes. Stuff that I was not meant to know or be aware of. Stuff I assume that the mind pap is designed to hide and cover over. It was weird cause the other dreams were nothing like this one, this one actually seemed like a real dream vs the other dreams which seem like faux dreams.
Now for those out there who do have these real life experiences be it abductions, or mind control programing, I am wondering if any of you could be experiencing this at a subconscious or dream level, vs real life waking level? Oh don’t get me wrong, I do believe the government does in real life conduct such experiments, I am not doubting the validity of people who have had such experiences, I am just wondering if anyone thinks that instead of a real experience if it could have happened on a dream level, but it seemed real?
Ofcourse what if things like this really are happening and government have found ways to remotely experiment on people at a dream or spirit level and to program them at a dream level imagine how messed up that would be? You would be like MK Ultra, Monarch Programing, Manchurian Candidate and never know it. The other thing is that would dream programming affect your waking world, or just your dream world?
It’s all very interesting, and I usually don’t get this personal in my blogging, and I usually don’t share my dreams, but I thought if anyone else out there was having similar, you could call back and share, and maybe compare notes.
For me personally I am taking these dreams with a grain of salt. I am naturally happy to have anything that seems more like my old dreams, even if this one did have the same creepy control theme to it.
(Oh one more weird thing, is that in the dream they referred to me as the benefits recipient, and I kept thinking, but I am not on benefits, it has to be a mistake. Benefits is the U.K. term for welfare, but the dream is all America based.) Weird, that was one more detail that comes out in the dream. I am going to go do some boring old surfing, and for once be glad for my waking world, cause my dream world is a bit weird right now.
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Well the dream seems to be pointing fingers.
I know why the dreams are so unfulfilling. It’s the exact same dream, the places, people change, but it’s the exact same dream. With the exact pointless task. That’s why it’s never fulfilling and that is why nothing ever changes.
Imaging waking up doing the same thing everyday, over and over and over again. The people look different, places, but when you get at the core, it’s the same dream.
Sort of like a task that never ends, even if you complete it you are going to do the same thing the next day. They are all dumb, pointless tasks, that are petty and make no sense to intelligent people, but in the new dreams seem to be really important, but are the kind of dreams stupid people would have and think were really important. Again Ren and Stimpy running the show.
In my dreams I wonder why would someone want to destroy someone’s dream center, what kind of dreams they have, who and what they dream about and what they are capable of? I mean dreams are suppose to be just dreams right, or do they place a more significant role than Western society would have us all believe. Dreams were essential to Native Americans. We use to go to oracles who could access other realms at one time in human history.
I don’t understand a lot about these types of things, but that seems to be the nature of these dreams. Anyone else with something similar if you can do a quick compare, I would really appreciate this. Also I have had a suggestion of trying some natural earth crystals, which might help stop the dream encoding. I have not had a chance to try those yet.
Here’s a tip you’ll find helpful if you follow up on it:
Tektites, magnetite, and orgonite.
High quality of the above beneath the pillow all help thwart these technologies and electromagnetic encoding.
Comment by Grey
Who to trust
Some trust in chariots, and some in horses: but we will remember the name of the Lord our God. ~Psalms 20:7
As a Targeted Individual I often wonder where can help be found? Who can really look at or assist with the plight of Targeted Individuals?
God – A lot of Targets believe in God or express a belief and many pray constantly that an answer will be found. I think it’s well to have faith in God. I feel very sorry for those in our situation that do not. Some others have started to lose their faith. I hope that you will use this situation to have your faith enriched or strengthened, do not lose your faith, do not let this situation rob you of that.
Kings -Some will put their faith in Kings and Princes. In the olden days you might have appealed to the King who in some societies held the highest seat in the land and had real powers, true kingdoms on earth, where the word or a nod was enough to save and deliver from the jaws of death. Though principalities and kingdoms do hold some sway on earth, many of our countries are no longer governed this way, and those that are, might not hold the same degree of power that they once did in other times. Even if they did, the plight of targets might not be the cause of the day to champion, so again would it truly make a difference? Maybe if you moved to a small Island where the word of the ruling monarch was still the law of the land, but otherwise many monarchies are bureaucracies in today’s society, and governed by the laws of the land, and the will of the people.
Presidents -Do you turn to presidents? Yeah. As they are jet setting around the world, writing their next books, they do not care about the plight of the Targeted Individual. I am sorry, but I have heard from enough targets who have written to this administration here, that administration there. The sad reality is that many of these in power at some point, past present or future, probably wrote or helped to strengthen the laws that are today being used to carry out and conduct the tortures that we are experiencing.
I know many are under the false impression that someone listen or care, but I am doubtful. I think there have been enough letters written, enough cries and appeals for help, that the incense of the requests could have made their way to the highest levels and it will do no good. Sure they could someday be shamed into taking action, that is what is nice about the power of the people, it’s what worked in other countries for exposing abuses and I think it is what is more likely to work, than actually catching the sympathies or humanities of these individuals.
Yes someday in the future we are likely to get some lame apology from some politician, maybe even a future president and they will claim how much they did not know what was going on, what have you, but the reality will be that it’s a lie. Enough targets have written to enough administrations that there is awareness, but just not the desire to care, unfortunately if it’s not happening to them or their families, there is very little reason to care or put a stop to any of this.
Also presidents are people, and they only have so much power, stopping a system of corruption also requires the will of the people, many can not or might feel that they can not act alone, but reality is that our cause is likely not to be as important as the next international trip around the world.
Politicians -They are the same, the odd politician might pretend to be interested in the plight of targeted individuals, but like presidents, many of these people are probably happen and use the very programs designed to destroy our lives, thinking that it will protect them. I am sure you might find the odd politician that truly listens and does learn to care, or take on our cause, but a single politician in and of themselves might not be enough to stop what is happening, and if they did, they could well risk becoming a target.
Media -Do we trust our media to break the story and save us? The media in many cases are aware, and have unsympathetically chosen to not report the story. The odd time the truth does break through and the story does get reported, for those who have had a conscience and who have reported the story in a decent capacity in any manner we are greatful, but unless we can elevate awareness across the board, most of the media will continue to ignore the story. Unless this topic can become so everyday and discussed on the forums, and blogs, and local street corners, then the media in many cases will feel unsympathetically embolden to ignore our plights much like they do other causes that are not the popular cause of the moment.
Fellow Citizens -Many really are naive, they believe the government and these programs are there for the good of the people. Most just do not want to believe that this could be happening, the ones that do know that this is happening, in some cases believe that these programs are for their own good. Many others just like the politicians are going to be too callous to care unless it is happening to them or their families. The reality is, the sad reality is if it’s not happening to them, most can not comprehend or begin to comprehend the devastating impact that such a situation can have on their fellow citizens, and even if they could comprehend many would not care, cause it would distract them from getting the latest IPad, Blue Ray, X-Box, distracting gizmo. Many others are just so surverly struggling, they are trying to make ends meet, they are so destitute that they have to think about themselves and their families, that they just don’t have the capacity to care for others. Many others are stupid enough to think that if you are on these lists, you deserve what is happening to you, and they do not realize that we could be innocent and undeserving of this fate.
Our Selves -We have to look to ourselves to survive the best that we can, to help each other when we can. Sometimes I want to share what is happening to me, or what a horrible time I am having, but then I realize that only another target could truly understand what I am going through, could understand the impact of the situation that I am in. I also know that sometimes other targets can not help the way that they would like to help. I read the blog of one target, he is a writer within the Targeted Individual community, after a long struggle to keep a roof over his head, he has finally become without a permanent resident. He had a plan in place of staying in public locations in the city he is in, but it’s the saddest thing to be without a home in the heart of winter. I feel his pain, but other than praying for him, there is little that my own situation allows. There are many targets like that. Others that right in desperately asking what to do to stop assults, sexual and otherwise. Others who get so close to the breaking point they do know what to do. Other targets who get so scared and desperate for their lives and survival that they flee from city to city, country to country with no end in sight, many trying desperately to raise the awareness or attention of someone who might be willing to lend us a hand, to help our situations.
It is the most painful circumstance. I have others who write in who have children, it’s horrific to go through this situation as an adult, much less to imagine the situation and circumstances that children must face, and the fear a parent has to go through in order to try to protect and take care of their children, it’s a horrible, heartbreaking ordeal, and many of Targets face it alone, and by themselves. Except for the odd time they can maybe connect with another target, we are primarily on our own, but that does not have to be a bad thing.
Over the last several years we have raised some awareness, as predicted there have become more high profile targets. There cases are drawing more attention to our cause. The topic is being more openly discussed in many cases. People know to direct people with stories of community stalking and mobbing to the websites, but we still in many cases desperately need help. People can pretend to be naive, oh shucks I didn’t really know how bad things were, but the reality is unless you have been sleeping in a cave in Afghanistan, you probably have some idea of how bad the plight of Targeted Individuals are and the chances are you have just been inspired not to care.
This Indigo Ribbon month there is finally a chance for some relief in sight. With the awareness of the Threat Assessment Team programs if we start to direct some of our efforts towards these programs, and exposing how they work, we might be able to expose some of what is happening. How these programs are connecting with local programs to systemically destroy the lives of targets. We are the best hope and chance that we stand to make a difference. We have a come a long way in many cases. The road seems rocky, and it has not been an easy path, and I am not claiming that the path ahead will be any better, but if we can hang in their a bit longer, some solid ground may be in sight.
Support each other the best you can, stay strong, support the efforts that are truly trying to make a difference, don’t give up your faith or your hope. These are the best weapons and chance that we have for fighting agaist this evil time that is upon us.
Freedom of Information Act Requests
These are suggestions that might be useful when making F.O.I.A. requests.
I think it would be a good idea to request freedom of information act information. Not only trying to obtain personal records, but also systeimic records.
Eg. 1. How many cases do Threat Assessment Teams have open and actively being monitored?
2. How many females vs males are currently and activily being monitored?
3. What is the cultural and or ethnic make up of those currently being monitored on these lists?
4. How many cases over the years ended up in institutionalizations? How many in arrests? How many in suicide? How many in homelessness? (They must have these figures if they are actively monitoring the cases, even if someone becomes homeless, the files would stay open.)
5. How much funding do these threat assessment teams get?
6. What is the guidelines for the remote monitoring and information gathering?
7. Where are the local monitors collected from? Are they local community members or others?
8. Who oversees the local monitoring? What guidelines are in place to ensure abuses do not happen?
9. What measures are in place to ensure that the privacy of the individual is not being trampled upon?
These are some of the Freedom Of Information Act Requests, that I would like to see directed to these threat assessment teams and any other agencies that they interact or liason with.
Human Rights Organizations
Some basic suggestions that might work.
For the human rights appeals, I think those should be redirected at local and other levels, but in addition to your other efforts, you might also wish to ensure that you point to these Threat Assessment Teams and their active and open case file monitoring.
Eg. I am what is known as a Targeted Individual. I am writing in regards to some ongoing surveillance and monitoring that I am currently experiencing. I believe that it is a possibility that I have been placed on a monitoring program at some point in the past by what is known as a Threat Assessment Team or similar entity, as per their case file monitoring guidelines.
Under this program I have experienced human rights abuses that i woudl like to bring to your attention.
I have experienced community monitoring, stalking and harsssment.
I have been terrorised and stalked within the communities where I reside, and my belief is that it’s in direct corrolation to the monitoring associated with this program.
I have experienced what our Targeted Individual community has coined Electronic Harassment.
The individuals who are taking part in the monitoring are using a variety of items which are remotly causing great physical pain, and discomfort. Though I have not visually seen the items being used, it has been suggested, and it is my belief that items such as:
Police radar guns are being used. -I have been advised that these might be getting used as part of the monitoring to remotely identify the targets location in their apartment. This casue a great deal of pain and discomfort.
Laser guns -I have been advised that laser guns such as the ones sold via the wickedlaser company might also be employed as part of the stalking. -According to the companies website these might be able to burn holes in items. It is my belief that these may be getting employed and used on Targeted Individuals.
Accoustic Weapons -I have been advised accoustic weapons that are capable of remotely manipulation of the nervous system might also be employed and used upon targets to assist with the monitoring. According to the current research this is capable of causing emotional disruptions of a nervous systems as well as placing individuals into unwilling states, such as relaxation, and drowsiness, and others.
Bass -I have been directed to the fact that times the sound compnent such as speakers with the sound component removed might be getting used. The vibrations are felt, and experienced, but no sound is heard. This also causing ringing in the ears, disrupts sleep, and has other ill health effects.
Transducers -I have been told and lead to believe that transducers might be also employed below the drywalls of apartments to cause heat and vibrations. Which create a great deal of pain and suffering as they disrupt sleeping patterns for days, weeks, months at a time.
RFID -It is my belief that RFID items in my possession are being illegally used to monitor my location while out in public. It’s a well proven fact that warrentless surveillance of some targets has been allowed in the past by some governments. RFID surviellance can include cellphones, door passes, passports, any communication device or other item that uses RFID to monitor and track a targets location.
(At this stage targets can add their own research to what they believe is being used upon them. Other forms of assault, such as sexual. I have left off things like satalight in this example, but if you have a compelling case, or good information, feel free to include it. A lot of what I have listed might not be things known to these agencies, things that are 100% proven, but the things that I have listed, should hopefully be within their realms of possibilities, and hopefully might prompt someone to open an investigation, or at least take the claims seriously.)
You may also wish to include a link to sites such as this
http://www.amazing1.com/ultra.htm which have things that might be designed to cause pain and discomfort. Tangable items that a human rights agency could be directed to.
Will this make a shred of difference? With enough letters, and the finger being pointed at these threat assessment teams, maybe it will lead to a review of some of these practices. Some of the things they are doing in my opinion seem to be just at the border at what some of these laws allow, and I am sure many other things are quite outside of the border of what the laws allow, and would disgust some if the dirty dealings came to light, but my recommendation is stick to the tangable.
Sure other things are going on like the V2k, or audio spotlight, but they are harder to prove. If you really need to include this element include information about the audio spotlight and how it can send sound to one person at a distance.
Just to clarify my blog post from yesterday, I was not implying that people should let the family and friends of those around them influence how they feel, or what they think. I mean it would be silly to judge an individual solely based on those around them, or who they are related to, if people did that, I don’t think many of us would come out unblemished. I personally would try to not let a good friendship, or relationship go, because the people around my friend were shallow.
I think you have to judge people on an individual basis, but I do think people need to be aware of situations that they are getting themselves into.
Eg. As a target, I know what my situation is, it’s a little Cointelpro, with a bit of Stasi thrown in. To the average outsider, who has not lived this, experienced this, or understands this, they might think that it’s just a fun thing that I blog about, and afterwards go onto my oh so glamorous life, though I wish that was the case, I assure you that it is otherwise.
Since I am aware of my situation, and I know that outsiders are not, even when I try to explain the things that I do try to explain, most simply do not get it, and thus think that they can come play in my sandbox, when the reality is, most are not tough enough emotionally or otherwise to withstand what I am going through.
Knowing this, as I so well do, I have a little filter process in place, it keeps out people, but it’s often for their own good. My world here, is not a pretty place. I know people come to the blog, and see all the postings and think, wow what a glamorous life, being systemically destroyed by the state, what fun. Living with the possibility of being driven to poverty or homelessness someday, or even worst if the snitches get lucky with their arranged accidents. Yes I know it seems glamfabulous to many, but it’s not.
Knowing now that the state is not only going behind my back, and contacting those around me, telling them that I might be dangerous, and that they likely, quite wrongly have me listed as possibly mentally ill in some way. Totally tubular to be sure, but not something that most people can handle.
I see outsiders who think this is going to be a fun, cute thing, yes, normarilly my life did fit that description, but it has not now for the last several years, in fact closer to a decade now since the whole mobbing, then Gang Stalking started. So people have to understand this. I would no sooner let a child near poison, than I would let an unsupecting person near my world, if they did not know what they were likely to get into, and most don’t. Most outsiders think that they have some idea of what it is like to be a targeted individual, but most don’t, they really don’t.
Let me again refresh people’s memories, with a few of the glamarous highlights of this type of targeting. http://www.IndigoRibbon.com/Quilt oh so glamourus, and most are oh so not alive to tell the tail, or they are in jail, or others not listed are likely in wards, etc. Not a glamourous life, and I am not sure most are ready for truly understanding it. Most that come even vaugly close, take a big woo nelly step back, as well they should. I am not blogging, because I am bored, or becasue it’s something fun to do while I watch my retirment fund grow, I am blogging because it’s been needed for my survival. I have not been doing all this research, cause saturday nights were so blah, I just wanted to stay at home. I did the research, cause me and so many others like me, are being systemically destroyed, and we can hardly get anyone to listen, understand or care.
So I just wanted to clearify this for those out there who think that being a target is oh so much fun, or oh so glamorous, it’s not all that it’s cracked up to be, and individuals out there need to understand this. I mean for me it’s meant never letting people get close to my world here, cause it’s for their own good, as well as mine. I hope in some parallel world I have the luxury of being a really nice, open, caring unreserved person, but here I do not, I have not, and I do not see that changing, with this system in place. Least not for this moment in time, even though I wish it was otherwise.
So I am still burning the candle at both ends, that remains the same.
A poster wrote in to clarify my opinion as to why I distance myself from some Gang Stalking initiavites. He asked me specifically about Ms. White and here is my response.
Ms White does several things that I am personally not in accord with.
She focuses on the Stalking aspect of Gang Stalking. Nothing wrong with that, but the few times I have come across her initiatives she has focused on linking this primarily to stalking and changing those laws. Nothing wrong with that, but I don’t believe this will change what is happening to Gang Stalking targets. Changing stalking laws will not change community notifications if that is what we are looking at. You have to name it if you are going to claim it.
I have always focused on the mobbing aspect of this harassment and focusing on the stalking aspect in my opinion is going to be less effective. I have from the start believed that mobbing and the way mobbing targets emotionally act out, best corrolates to the Gang Stalking movement.
Ms White has often criticized websites as bad sites, poison sites, etc, for linking the Gang Stalking harassment to government and state initiatives. That fine, yet other sites seem to get a pass for doing the same thing, and she manages to keep them off her credibility review websites. Ms White has continued to advocate Terrorist Stalking in America, a book that links Gang Stalking first to Stalking crews then to terrorists. She is always asking for proof, when someone mentions the government, yet never has the same issue with openly advocating something that even in her words has a wrong conclusion. She should be also screaming for proof on the Terrorist Stalking book but fails to. This seems to be a double standard that she has. I would love to see the book on her credibility review site, which I feel she covertly uses to attack others, under the guise of these reviews, but she is allowed to do what she wants to.
Ms White in my opinion often leads targets in directions that I do not often agree with. I think her site has loads of useful and valuable information, but when new targets come online, I just need it to be very clear that I am not affiliated with many of her initiatives. All too often they think that all sites share the same opinions and we often do not. In distancing myself from her initiatives, I hope to move targets in more useful directions. Get them more streamlined with things that might help them.
I have been on Eleanor’s forum, things always seem to move forward, but nothing ever seems to actually get done, but she conducts them very professionally. I just feel that we often disagree in various ways and I just like that to be made clear.
The FFCHS site is currently working with John Hall and a politician on laws that I don’t think will fix the problems in the Gang Stalking community. John Hall if focusing on Satalights, which is fine, but to get to the heart of the problem, I think the local initiatives like community notifications need to be addressed. They are getting good press and it feels like things are happening, like things are going forward, but like the time they got targets to write in with information about a multiple lawsuit, I don’t think this will work any better. Thus I don’t want targets linking the two, and thinking that we all share the same ideas. Thus even when laws get passed the angle that is being taken I don’t feel will move things along the way that they need to go, in the direction that they need to go in. That is why I personally have chosen to distance myself from the direction that those initiatives have moved in.
I also had a discussion with a lawyer, who blasted all the Gang Stalking sites, and I asked why? It was because he had a disagreement with FFCHS and possibly Eleanor and thus he wrote off all the Gang Stalking sites. This really opened my eyes, and I didn’t think that was fair. So thus now, it’s made very clear that not all Gang Stalking sites share the same views. Thus if I do an initiative that they don’t agree with, they are not linked and visa versa.
I also have distanced myself from a poster who suggests that targets write a wild Freedom Of Information Act request. I do agree and fully support Freedom Of Information Act requests. I don’t support what was being suggested. Everytime certain fractions and their so called authority are challenged, character assassinations begin by their members, and those affiliated with those movements, they have a consistent habit of doing so, and thus one more reason I often choose to disassociate. Very simple really.
Lastly those fractions prefer to call this Organized Stalking, and sometime ago, I had to really fight to keep the term Gang Stalking after Eleanor decided that Organized Stalking was the term to use. She tried to have the term annexed after four years of really hard work to get the term popularized, in favor of a term most that is not as popular and would have set the movement back. Again at that time, I had to have unneeded character assassinations from some of their members, website attacks, which always happens when openly disagreeing with them. So now I am just very clear about which direction I am going in and which direction they are going in.
Some see this distancing as attacks on those sites, but it’s really just to ensure my initiatives do not affect them, and visa versa.
I hope this answers your question.
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