V series review.
http://gangstalkingworld.com/Forum/YaBB.pl?num=1258243095/0#3
This post was part of a long thread, so feel free to follow the above link to see the whole post.
V the series. Now I have referred to the original as a good example of a Fascist takeover. The original showed how aliens took over the earth, but it was really a take on Fascist Germany and how the takeover happened. It was a good learning experience, watching the resistances form and the battles lost and won.
The new series was not as clear, would it be as good as the original, or just a cheap take off?
Well it seems that they have done it from the ground up a little bit better.
Spoilers coming.
http://www.cinemaspy.com/article.php?id=3480
If you have not seen the new series watch it first then read. In this series the aliens land, they pretend to be here for peace, a friends of humanity, where have we all heard that before? (Hint it was in the original.)
Anyways they offer friendship in exchange for our resources, just like the first one. It’s not long before they are making friends and winning people over etc. They form the youth groups and the visitor ambassadors just like in the first one.
Just like in the first series there are people who do not trust the V’s. Here is the twist and I like this twist and deeply approve of it. The visitors have been here for years. (Just like in the movie they live.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They_Live
You don’t know who they are, (think government informants, Nazis, Communist, anything that you want to insert.) they could be anyone. They have been incorporating themselves into our society, a takeover has been slowly happening from the inside out, the reveal of the motherships is just the final step in a bigger plan for world domination.
Eg. Here is a recent example that I think fits this mold very well. Turns out Mr. Turner was working for the feds since 1993. I am just pointing out facts, not stating anything positive or negative. Anyways he became trusted in some circles and in a pretty high position of influence, but he was according to his families blog, an Intelligence Operative since 1993.
http://family-of-hal-turner.blogspot.com/2009/11/students-protest-fbi-over-hal-turner.html
[quote]Turner was hired by the FBI in the year 2002, but the bureau revealed Turner had actually “contributed to the FBI’s Mission since 1993.” they trained him as an Intelligence Operative and
provided extensive legal advice about what is lawful, protected speech as opposed to unlawful speech. Turner relied on that training while writing his editorial but was arrested by the FBI
anyway.[/quote]
They have infiltrated every institution, government, religion, branch of society etc. The plot is trust no one, because you don’t know who they are, they could be anyone. Husbands, wives, friends, co-workers, etc. In the show V an FBI agent learns this the hard way. Her partner who she trusts and who has been her friend through thick and seemingly thin for the last seven years is not what he seems to be.
On the other hand not all Visitors are bad and there are some who are will to work with and help the resistance. The FBI agent once she realises how deep things go, eg. The ability to be able to block and intercept 9/11 calls (where have I heard that before?) realizes that she can not take them on head on and must figure out how deep it all goes, then find others like herself so they can form a resistance.
The visitors in the mean time continue with their plans for world domination, with the whole I come in peace garbage.
If this series continues on it’s path, it’s is well worth watching like the original series was. I think the remake is a relevant for this time period as the original was some years ago. I don’t think you have to be into aliens to enjoy the concept of this show, and I had my doubts, but the remake is shaping up to be as good as the first. It’s premature, but I think it’s worth tuning into.
A capacity for evil
To truly feel and understand hatred.
The LORD Is My Shepherd
A Psalm of David.
The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.
2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures:
he leadeth me beside the still waters.
3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths
of righteousness for his name’s sake.
4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,I will fear no evil: for thou art with me thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.
6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.
See people think that hatred is someone saying racists, bigoted, sexist, etc words, and or maybe following through with actions and for the most part it is. However that overt hatred, it’s easy to spot and most times you can fight it and challenge it if it comes knocking at your door, but what about the covert kind, the kind that is not that subtle, the kind that is not that easy to spot, how do you recognize that kind, and how do you stop that kind, and how do you deal with it, when it might not even identify itself as such, when in fact it might identify itself as the good guy?
Well I had some fun with that recently. I got to be amongst the informant force, the joke that my life has become, wash rinse repeat, they never change. Now before I go off on a very generalized rant, I want to say that not everyone is stupid, not everyone is hateful, and there are some, that are not going along with the sheeple feed, that are not going along with hatred, for no real reason. For people like this I am grateful and your thoughts, desires give me hope, keep sending out those intentions, because the world needs them.
My insides are on burnt a bit right this minute, I am not sure what they were using this time around, but when I work up, you could feel the pulsing waves, coming from below, but also a lot of heat, what was weird is that there was a book near me and when I woke up, and felt the book, it felt hot. Usually the stuff they use, only heats up my physical being, but whatever they used now is different, designed to cause a different kind of harm. There level for inhumanity never ceases to amaze me. It’s expected, and I am not as troubled by it, they just have limited humanity to speak of. Stupid creatures that can be commanded at will, to do the bidding of others, no matter how evil or degenerate those actions, are, and when asked why it will be the same old excuse, I was just following orders.
Anyways, for people who are not ignorantly willing to hate and believe stupid lies, my thanks. For those who will embrace being corrected when they see the truth, my thanks also. For those who will venomously hate, and seek to destroy that which you know not or understand, those who would violently attack others with your thoughts, intentions and actions, I have no place in my world for you, and my desires for you are not well, my hopes for you are not well. You make the world unsafe for me and those like me. You bring no good energy, and Karmically I pray for balance to find you.
It’s funny being online I can go to many different corners of the net, and I can enter many different mind sets, ideals, beliefs, attitudes, worlds. I can find out what is behind them like never before. This access was not readily available 20 years ago, but the Internet has changed all this. I can examine the ideals of anyone from goths, extremists, feminists, hippies, the drug culture, AIDS activists, etc, etc, etc. I have a world open to me, where I can learn about the struggles of others, I can understand Opposing viewpoints. Instead of wallowing in ignorance about why people think and feel the way they do, I can go out and find out the reasons, ask the questions and find the answers. I like learning, I like understanding, it bridges the gap, and has the potential to help and heal. I would not ever have had this access, to research to understand, to help, to change for the better. For some odd reason people choose not to understand this, some would assign nefarious intentions towards my endeavours, primarily because their hearts are evil, and their minds are shallow and limited. The way they think, function, understand is so limited, that those are the only conclusions they can come to, because it matches their limited views of what they know about the world, which is not much.
I have dealt with the informant force for more years of my life than I care to recollect. When I say the informant force, I specifically refer to those who participated in my years of harassment, and hatred via workplace mobbing, street harassment, rumours, slanders, lies, ill intentions, etc. If you are not in these categories then you have no need to take offense. They are hateful, they are hate filled. They like to destroy, these are the sorts that drive people to commit suicide, they destroy families, and innocents, they have probably taken more lives over the years via their brand of hatred, then many in our society who we openly identify, call, or classify as hateful. I condemn those actions and find it to be unacceptable, but for many others this kind of hate is acceptable, the blood never touches their hand, and if it does it’s spread so thin, they hardly notice.
I was once again presently surprised to find their hatred and venom, pointed in my direction, oh there is a surprise, what else is new, what else are they good for? This time much like the others times they were wrong, but it makes no difference, as usually, when has truth ever mattered to these people? When has being wrong ever stopped these useful idiots from carrying out harm against others?
Their capacity to hate astounds me. Most of these people that I see on the street, they don’t know me, even the ones I worked with, they don’t me, except for what I reveal about myself, or some third party tells them, but how many times has that been taken and used as the truth? These people like to hate, it’s point, click, and hate to these people, just tell them where, and who, no other form of critical thinking is needed. It doesn’t matter if it’s true, logical, correct, or accurate. My entire life, these are the hateful things that I was taught to fight against, but I am finding the hate where I least expected it, from the very people who should know better but don’t. There vibrational levels are so low, when I am around them. Now that mine are coming back online, I can understand a lot better the true challenges inherent, with trying to wake people up, and get them to see the truth. Via the snitching friends network, these people are in touch with each other, they know or I should say, they think they know all about you, I had someone threaten me via a skit, oh not just me, but my family. You psychotic fu**ing idiots. Now tell me who the hateful ones are?
I will thankfully never understand these people if I live to be a thousand, and considering I now fully believe that we come here, and then we continue on after we leave here, and then are reborn once more, that says a lot. t. They are the same now as they have always been, and they do not change. All that changes are the physical forms they take. But the mentality, the capacity to hate, does not change or diminish. I am hoping the world can wake up and see that we are about to repeat history in an unprecedented manner, but I am less hopeful. Along with the changes that are happening in our society, the other dangers that I am trying to wake people up to is themselves, and their inherent capacity for evil, and their inability to see it when it’s about to rear it’s ugly head again in fake righteous indignation, and destroy and seek the blood of those it deems worthy. In plain English these people like to hate, they like to believe that they are on the side of good, they will believe and swallow anything that they are told. They don’t learn, they don’t change, and so history will likely repeat. That is a frightening prospect, but if they can not be awakened, then this path will not change. How can you awaken minds that are choosing to be hateful, to not understand, to hate where they are pointed, without reason, without justification, without consciousness? I don’t even know the answer to that question, but history tells me that you can’t, and from what I have seen those who would attempt to try have consistently been met with their venom. Crucified, sacrificed, etc.
The physical appearances are different this time around, but the roles being played out are the same. The baiting of people, the lies, the rumours, the slander, it’s all the same. The very real possibility that we are about to repeat is very high. You have an informant force, that is connected like no other time in history. Yet the ignorance is just as great, if not worst. I begin to believe that there must of been those in other times who saw the capacity early on, and who also tried to make others aware, I imagine that they were also ignored by the masses.
The human mindset when it seeks to hate and destroy goes out in one big wave, and it’s constantly repeating.
Witch trials, Inquisitions, Nazi Germany, The Stasi, McCarthyism, to a lesser degree, but it’s the same capacity, and the same desire, this need to feed and they pick a target, and begin to seek out and try to find ways to devour it’s flesh, human sacrifice is what these people know and understand, then and now.
My time spent learning has been interesting. The methods also do not change that much, the methods used for destroying a target, making them appear to be less then human, making them into objects, things that can be destroyed. People are so willing to walk a mile for the destruction of the innocent, everyone loves a good sacrifice, but they would hardly take one step to save each others. They feel justified and righteous, but what I saw reflected was people who would delight, find glee, seek and desire the destruction of others. No remorse or repentance. What I saw in them, is reflected back here, and like a mirror, they will not like what they see or read, but at least this will be the truth. People’s ignorance, is one of the most inherent dangers the human species faces.
These people also do not welcome truth in anytime period either.
Moving on with the things that leave me hopeful. I have talked about the bad stuff, and now I will move on to the good stuff. In trying to find ways to awaken people, so that they will not take this path again, I have observed many communities across the net. I am constantly trying to find out if awareness is spreading, is understanding of this time being gained, or do people remain as blissfully ignorant as I was about the time that we are in? What I have observed is interesting. The government shrills are hard at work, I see them in many ways pushing an agenda, posting this idea hear, this thought here, trying to influence how people think, and trying to lead the discussions in this or that direction on some of these forums. Walking down a path that might lead to truth. They are hard at work and doing a good job. Websites that I expect to be helping to wake people up surprisingly are not. I have watched one site, go from extremely aware members, to either mostly shrills, or they are attracting really dumbed down people, and that is always dangerous. As the New York plot has shown us, when people are not very smart, they can be manipulated and used.
Others sites I have been surprised, one website where I was expecting to find hate, I have found something else. Sure you have people with hateful attitudes, ideals, separate from my own, that was expected, but then you also have people that have very aware attitudes. Yet within the spectrum, you have people who see the time period for what it is, the capacity for history to repeat, but on a different scale. Who understand the police state and the formation that is happening. You get a lot of what was expected and anticipated, but on an unexpected note, you also have voices that see the time unfolding and dear I say it, are trying to alert others around them. This is not what I expected to come across in those neck of the woods, but an awareness capacity is there. I have been looking for hope, for a sign that we can stop this time period from happening again, and I find it in the most surprising and unexpected places. When you delve past the expected and overt, there is the unexpected and aware.
It’s almost like the people who think that they are not hateful, and who are think they are creating a better world are the ones who are helping to destroy others. They don’t see that their actions are covertly hateful. Where the other group, they understand that they are not favored in society, they understand that in many circles they are hated, and not respected, but yet they some also have an understanding of the time that is coming. That light and awareness was not what I expected to find, but I did.
Is my thinking warped, am I off my rocker, no? There is more to this battle than flesh and blood. There is a spiritual side, with vibrations, and human consciousness, things that can’t be explained at the outset, but go a long way towards making a difference in the human outcome. I don’t expect most people to try to understand this aspect, they are happy with what they can see on the surface and I will leave it at that. Jesus for his time was criticised for being a friend to sinners and publicans, so I think I am in good hands.
There is so much negative energy being generated within the informant force, the same kind that contributed to things like the witch trials, and Inquisitions, Nazi Germany, Stasi Germany, McCarthyism. Those people in those times, felt righteous in their actions, they used the same flawed logic, the same rumour mongering and they also destroyed their innocent victims much in the same way that this society does. Where the witch trials burnt people at the stake, this society just eats away at a person till they are destroyed in a different manner. Less blood on the hands, but it the same results, and the blood is sacrificed once more.
If nothing else in this world I want to take the time to understand those things which I can. Most of my life I wondered how, how could Hitlers Germany have happened, how could people have gone along with it? Why did they not see the true evil of their actions? The books could not teach me, only the human experience could teach me, and I am once more made whole, and connected. Life is consciousness, awareness, it’s so much more than the flesh and blood we see, but most of our lives are lived thinking that there is little else.
The world has not ceased to amaze me. Where I once thought I would find understanding, and awareness, I have found stupidity, ignorance, and intolerance. I have found covertly hateful actions that are unfathomable, but that I encounter on a daily basis. (Again this is not a blanket statement, within the informant force, I find people who give me hope, and who make me remember why I want to help.) Where traditionally I would expected to find nothing but hate, I have found that, but I have also been pleasantly surprised to find awareness, intelligence in some regards, and a bit of hope that this can still be stopped, that this path may not be walked once more.
What I do know is that is an intelligence in the universe, a consciousness, a will a capacity, and when we can tune into that, when we are not prevented, we begin to see and understand the world in many different capacities. Life is about experience, learning, feeling? As humans we have an incredible capacity for good, but we also have an amazing capacity for evil, and for destroying each other and for doing unspeakable, unfathomable things to each other, then walking away and covering them up, as if nothing happened. Humans are funny that way, but to try to understand them, is interesting.
What I do know, if we had a greater threat than ourselves, eg. project Blue Beam, alien attack, etc, we would learn to work together. We would learn to look past our differences, and see each other as one race, one people, maybe not everyone, but most people, it would be us against them. Humans are never as cooperative, as when there is a war or threat involved, a fight. So you get wars on drugs, and terror. They are very effective when pointed towards a common enemy, a common goal, a greater good, even if it’s based on a lie. That’s why there are always divisions, as long as they have someone to hate, or to focus their differences on, they have this amazing capacity to work together. War makes strange bed fellows. Uniting rich and poor, black and white, men and women, different politics and religions, different classes, because then people for a time forget about the minor differences, realise that we are all one, and focus on the greater enemy, and those are the times, human corporation it seems can be achieved. Don’t think that those who would enslave humanity are not aware of this little flawed logic in our history.
At present the vibrational energy, the normal stuff that David Icke and other like him talk about is at a low point. If we can bring that back up, then we might stand a chance. One thing that I understand about Gang Stalking is that it is designed to bring this energy down to it’s lowest common denominator. Those around the target in a sense feed off of this. Anyways, I am going to continue to do what I came here to do, for as long as I can. I will remain prayerful and hopeful, because it’s the only thing that I know for sure that works, it might take time, but if you are consistent it can work. I will pray for light where there is darkness, light/love where there is hate, and understanding where there is ignorance. If this time does come once more, than at least I know I have done my best. I did try.
Obama a call to service 2
http://gangstalking.wordpress.com/2008/09/25/obama-a-call-to-service/
Did everyone see this article it just came out?
Phase I
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090421/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_national_service
[quote]
By ANN SANNER
WASHINGTON – Calling on Americans to volunteer, President Barack Obama signed a $5.7 billion national service bill Tuesday that triples the size of the AmeriCorps service program over the next eight years and expands ways for students to earn money for college.
“We need your service, right now, in this moment in history. … I’m asking you to stand up and play your part,” said Obama, a former community organizer in Chicago. “I’m asking you to help change history’s course.”
Joining Obama was Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, who has been battling brain cancer. Kennedy championed the legislation with Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, and the bill was named in honor of the Massachusetts Democrat.
Kennedy told the audience that included former President Bill Clinton, New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg and former first lady Rosalyn Carter that Obama’s efforts echoed that of his late brother, former President John F. Kennedy.
“Today, another young president has challenged another generation to give back to their nation,” Kennedy said, citing his brother’s advocacy of the Peace Corps.
The service law expands ways for students and seniors to earn money for college through their volunteer work. It aims to foster and fulfill people’s desire to make a difference, such as by mentoring children, cleaning up parks or buildings and weatherizing homes for the poor.
Bolstering voluntary public service programs has been a priority of Obama, who credits his work as a community organizer in his early 20s for giving him direction in life. The president cited his work in Chicago as an example of how one person can make a difference.
“All that’s required on your part is a willingness to make a difference,” Obama said. “That’s the beauty of it; everybody can do it.”
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I refer you to the earlier post about the Youtube video Obama a call to service, and the first post on this topic, with some key points of the speech addressed.
http://gangstalking.wordpress.com/2008/09/25/obama-a-call-to-service/
Finally a reminder about what the ACLU said.
http://blog.aclu.org/2009/04/09/show-us-your-body-or-well-feel-you-up/
[quote]One of the points that Saletan makes is that what was formerly voluntary is now mandatory. We hate to say “I told you so,” but this is the classic way that invasive technologies reach us: the authorities make them as palatable as possible to get the public to swallow them (they’ll say it’s “voluntary,” or “applied only in certain cases,” and tell you it’s chock-full of privacy protections). Then once they’re accepted, they become more and more intrusive in all the ways the ACLU always warns against. [/quote]
This model works with other things, not just invasive technologies. Today what is voluntary, might not be tomorrow, it may well be mandatory.
Obedience to authority
Many people wonder why these informants go along with this? Why would anyone go along with causing the suicide of their fellow citizens, or enacting cruelty on someones cats, dogs, kids, family, property etc? Why would you knowingly go along with a practice that many would consider to be evil?
The answer is obedience to authority. As long as an authority figure is giving the orders, experiments have shown that most people will go along with whatever is being ordered, even if those orders are to inflict pain on another human being.
Let’s start with the Milgram experiments.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mst1h31daV4
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment
[quote]Ordinary people, simply doing their jobs, and without any particular hostility on their part, can become agents in a terrible destructive process. Moreover, even when the destructive effects of their work become patently clear, and they are asked to carry out actions incompatible with fundamental standards of morality, relatively few people have the resources needed to resist authority.[4]
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As part of the experiment a stranger off the street is asked to shock an individual as part of a learning or behaviour modification experiment. The person doing the shocking is told that this will help the person to learn the answers to the question. The person being shocked has agreed to the experiment.
The person giving the shocks is giving a test shock of the lowest voltage to see what the pain is like. It’s not pleasant. They are told that if the person fails to answer the question, they are to increase the voltage and to keep shocking the person till they get the answer correct.
The person giving the answers starts to get the questions wrong, they are asked to keep going by the person in authority. The person answering the questions, starts to scream out in pain, sometimes even screaming, my heart, my heart.
Many times the person giving the shock wants to stop what they are doing, but they are told don’t pay it any mind we have to keep going, and so they are goaded on by the experimenter to the end of the experiment. 65% of those in the studied continued to the very end of the voltage metre.
Now imagine you are an average citizen, you are asked to become an Informant by the state, country that you love. At some point you realise that what you are doing is wrong and that people are being harmed. Let’s say you come across a Gang Stalking website, and realise what you are taking part in. How can you stop?
First you are bound by a gag order, so you can’t say anything. Second if you go to the police, local authorities, they are taking part, so you can’t go there, human rights organizations, the same thing. Since becoming an Informant you realise that this is systemic and that the majority of your community is in some way taking part. What do you do where do you turn?
You can ask to not take part, but many people are afraid of being targeted themselves the same way, experiencing the same sort of harassment. There is a real cult like mentality about what is happening, even if most people do not identify it as such, so how would you get out, much less help the target?
In many cases they can’t, and some of them are as trapped as we are. Either get the punishment or give the punishment. Not a great choice. This is not true for all of them, some are just really lowlifes and happy to go along with this, and would report anyone not following suit.
Within the system you can try to hint to the target about what is happening, try to help expose what is happening. Don’t allow yourself to feel or become powerless, keep thinking, keep finding ways, try to keep feeling. If you let the stress of the situation overwhelm you, a part of you disassociates emotionally, and you became biddable, capable of not much but following orders.
How quickly can this shift come about, in a really short space of time. The Milgram experiment happened within an hour or two.
The next experiment happened over a few days.
The Stanford Prison Experiment.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment
The scary part about this, is that thy knew in advance that they were part of an experiment, they were paid for it, they agreed to it and everything.
The experiment was suppose to last 2 weeks, but had to be ended after six days. One group of students were assigned to the role of prisoners, another to the role of guards.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0jYx8nwjFQ
[quote]
As the experiment proceeded, several guards became progressively sadistic. Experimenters said that approximately one-third of the guards exhibited genuine sadistic tendencies. Interestingly, most of the guards were upset when the experiment concluded early.
Zimbardo argued that the prisoner participants had internalized their roles, based on the fact that some had stated that they would accept parole even with the attached condition of forfeiting all of their experiment-participation pay. Yet, when their parole applications were all denied, none of the prisoner participants quit the experiment. Zimbardo argued they had no reason for continued participation in the experiment after having lost all monetary compensation, yet they did, because they had internalised the prisoner identity, they thought themselves prisoners, hence, they stayed.
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The prisoners (students pretending to be prisoners) started to riot, the cops (students pretending to be cops) started to get brutal with them. Made them do all sorts of sick and sadistic things. Tried to get some to turn into snitches, one prisoner faked being crazy to get out, they turned on each other in some cases, and just fell in line with obeying authority, in most cases. The person conducting the experiment actually thought he was a warden, he got so caught up in the role.
[quote]In psychology, the results of the experiment are said to support situational attributions of behavior rather than dispositional attribution. In other words, it seemed the situation caused the participants’ behavior, rather than anything inherent in their individual personalities. In this way, it is compatible with the results of the also-famous Milgram experiment, in which ordinary people fulfilled orders to administer what appeared to be damaging electric shocks to a confederate of the experimenter.[/quote]
The experiment at the time was used to help better understand the psychological changes that prisoners and their jailers go through. Later it was used to help explain the situation at Abu Ghraib with the prisoner abuses.
The Strip Search Prank Call
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strip_search_prank_call_scam
This experiment was anything but. Because a crank caller pretended to be an authority figure. A Police officer, average people were willing to carry out horrible actions on innocent people.
[quote]The strip search prank call scam was a series of incidents occurring for roughly a decade before 2004. These incidents involved a man calling a restaurant, claiming to be a police detective, and convincing managers to conduct strip-searches of female employees. Reports of over 70 such occurrences in 30 U.S. states finally led to the arrest and charging of David R. Stewart, a 37-year-old Florida corrections officer.[/quote]
These are a few of the incidents that occurred in the wake of these phone calls.
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A call to a McDonald’s restaurant in Hinesville, Georgia resulted in a janitor performing a body cavity search on a 19-year old cashier.[5]
A 17-year-old customer at a Taco Bell in Phoenix, Arizona was strip-searched by a manager receiving this kind of prank call.[6]
On Nov. 30, 2000, the caller persuaded the manager at a McDonald’s in Leitchfield, Kentucky, to remove her own clothes in front of a customer whom the caller said was suspected of sex offenses. The caller promised that undercover officers would burst in and arrest the customer the moment he attempted to molest her, said Detective Lt. Gary Troutman of the Leitchfield Police Department.[7]
On May 29, 2002, a girl celebrating her 18th birthday — in her first hour of her first day on the job at the McDonald’s in Roosevelt, Iowa — was forced to strip, jog naked and assume a series of embarrassing poses, all at the direction of a caller on the phone, according to court and news accounts.[8]
On Jan. 26, 2003, according a police report in Davenport, Iowa, an assistant manager at an Applebee’s Neighborhood Grill & Bar conducted a degrading 90-minute search of a waitress at the behest of a caller who said he was a regional manager — even though the man had called collect, and despite the fact the assistant manager had read a company memo warning about hoax calls just a month earlier. He later told police he’d forgotten about the memo.[9] [/quote]
The callers downfall came when he was able to get one of these sheeple to sexually assault a teenage girl over the phone. All the while giving the instructions. She complied, because she was scared, frightened and an authority figure was on the phone giving instructions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFXeXK3szOk
http://www.mahalo.com/Louise_Ogborn_Video
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The final prank call in this scheme was made to a McDonald’s restaurant in Mount Washington, Kentucky on April 9, 2004. According to assistant manager Donna Summers, the caller identified himself as a policeman, ‘Officer Scott’, he described an employee whom he said was suspected of stealing a customer’s purse. Summers called 18-year-old employee Louise Ogborn to her office and told her of the suspicion. Following the instructions of the caller, Summers ordered Ogborn first to empty her pockets, and finally to remove all her clothing except for an apron, in an effort to find the stolen items. Again following the caller’s instructions, Summers had another employee watch Ogborn when she had to leave the office to check the restaurant. The first employee, 27 year old Jason Bradley, whom she asked to stay there refused to after he was on the phone with the caller, so she phoned her fiance Walter Nix, asking him to come in to ‘help’ with the situation. [10]
According to Ogborn, after Summers passed off the phone to Nix, he continued to do as the caller told, even as the caller’s requests became progressively more bizarre. A security camera recorded Nix forcing Ogborn to remove her apron, the only article of clothing she was still wearing, and to assume degrading positions, such as standing on a chair and getting on all fours. When Ogborn refused to obey the caller’s instructions, Nix hits the 90 lb Ogborn on the buttocks several times creating painful red welts, and at one point he does this for 10 minutes. At the caller’s request, Nix then threatens to beat Ogborn again and forces Ogborn to kiss him and then perform oral sex on him. Ogborn says at the point of sexual assault she was scarred for life.[11] The tape showed that Summers re-entered the office several times and dismissed Ogborn’s pleas for help, a statement which Summers denies.
When another employee was asked to take part and objected, Summers decided to call the store manager, whom the caller claimed to have on another phone line. She then discovered that the store manager had not spoken to any police officers, and that the call had been a hoax. A quick-thinking employee dialed *69 to determine that the caller had called from a supermarket pay phone in Panama City, Florida. Summers then called police, who arrested Nix and began an investigation to find the caller. [/quote]
The above scenario is really sick and hard to believe that something like that could happen, mush less that similar circumstances happened at least 70 times prior to this incident, but it’s true.
Other events show us that people are willing to kill upon request, even innocent woman, children and the elderly, while others are not.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHk4TGWx0ZM
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the My Lai massacre where the US army in Vietnam slaughtered 500 unarmed civilians, many women and children.
Some victims were sexually abused, beaten, tortured, maimed and mutilated.
Three U.S. servicemen who made an effort to halt the massacre and protect the wounded were sharply criticized by US Congressmen, received hate mail, death threats and mutilated animals on their doorsteps. Only 30 years after the event were their efforts honored.
American media first claimed 100 had been killed in a fierce fire fight.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_Massacre
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Charlie Company landed following a short artillery and helicopter gunship preparation. The soldiers found no enemy fighters in the village on the morning of March 16. Many suspected there were NLF troops in the village, hiding underground in the homes of their elderly parents or their wives. The U.S. soldiers, one platoon of which was led by Second Lieutenant William Calley, went in shooting at “suspected enemy position”. After the first civilians were killed and wounded by the indiscriminate fire, the soldiers soon began attacking anything that moved, humans and animals alike, with firearms, grenades and bayonets. The scale of the massacre only spiraled as it progressed, the brutality increasing with each killing. BBC News described the scene:
“ Soldiers went berserk, gunning down unarmed men, women, children and babies. Families which huddled together for safety in huts or bunkers were shown no mercy. Those who emerged with hands held high were murdered. … Elsewhere in the village, other atrocities were in progress. Women were gang raped; Vietnamese who had bowed to greet the Americans were beaten with fists and tortured, clubbed with rifle butts and stabbed with bayonets. Some victims were mutilated with the signature “C Company” carved into the chest. By late morning word had got back to higher authorities and a cease-fire was ordered. My Lai was in a state of carnage. Bodies were strewn through the village.[12] ”
More victims at My Lai. Photo by Ronald L. HaeberleDozens of people were herded into an irrigation ditch and other locations and killed with automatic weapons[13]. A large group of about 70 to 80 villagers, rounded up by the 1st Platoon in the center of the village, were killed personally by Calley and by soldiers he had ordered to fire. Calley also shot two other large groups of civilians with a weapon taken from a soldier who had refused to do any further killing.
Members of the 2nd Platoon killed at least 60-70 Vietnamese men, women, and children, as they swept through the northern half of My Lai 4 and through Binh Tay, a small subhamlet about 400 meters north of My Lai 4.[1]
After the initial “sweeps” by the 1st and the 2nd Platoons, the 3rd Platoon was dispatched to deal with any “remaining resistance”. They immediately began killing every still-living human and animal they could find, including shooting the Vietnamese who emerged from their hiding places, and finishing off the wounded found moaning in the heaps of bodies. The 3rd Platoon also rounded up and killed a group of 7 to 12 women and children.[1]
Since Charlie Company had encountered no enemy opposition, 4th Battalion, 3rd Infantry Regiment, was moved into its landing zone between and attacked the subhamlet of My Khe 4, killing as many as 90 people. U.S. forces lost one man killed and seven wounded from mines and booby traps.[1] During the next two days, both battalions were involved in additional burning and destruction of dwellings, and in the mistreatment of Vietnamese detainees.
Most of the soldiers had not participated in the crimes, but neither did they protest or complain to their superiors.[14]
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At the end of the day what can really be said about these incidents are occurrences? Why are some people driven by a higher authority, a greater code of conduct than others? Why are some not willing to go along with this, when others just fall in line, or stand helplessly by and let these atrocities happen? Why do some decline to become Informants for the system while others just accept? Why do some just go along with injustice and corruption, while others turn away from all appearances of evil?
Why do some question, while others don’t?
There are a variety of reasons, many people are culturally engineered or programed to obey authority, many have never been in a similar situation before and their survival instinct is to comply, because everyone else is going along with it. Humans for the most part are social creatures and very few have the capacity to stand on their own, or be excluded from society, friends, family, neighbours and if the corruption, or atrocity is systemic, most will just fall in line with what is happening, just like in Nazi Germany.
Leader vs Leaderless resistance
So you want to start a resistance movement, protest movement etc. How does it get done? How did it get done in the past? How can it be done in this time period?
It’s stuff many people are thinking about. In the past we had movements that were lead by leaders, leaders that people could rally around and who people loved, or at least respected. Programs such as Cointelpro made it very easy to wipe out those leaders and to remove them.
Guidelines came along on how to resist Cointelpro Infiltrations because of this.
http://security.resist.ca/personal/culture.shtml
http://security.resist.ca/personal/investigations.shtml
In the past when you had a leader, if the leader was arrested, killed, imprisoned, etc then often the movement just died, or it had to wait till a new leader sprung up.
“Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith the LORD of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones.
smite Matt 26:31, Mark 14:27
In the movement of Christianity new leaders did arise, many were also killed, persecuted, until the state stepped in and took over the movement, then everyone else was persecuted but for very different reasons. The history is really interesting.
Then we have other movements and leaders. Kennedy tried to remove the federal reserve, apparently a bit of a no, no thing to do, and it did not work out well for him.
Martin Luther King and others like him tried to free, or raise up their people from oppression. When leaders like him died out, others did rise, but before they could become full bloom, programs like Cointelpro were there to make sure that no more messiahs that could unite the masses would rise. That is what was done then and now.
So people moved towards leaderless resistances, or a vertical resistance structure. Power is not concentrated in anyone spot. So if they wipe out one sector, another sector still remains. This by the way is similar to the structure that our oppressors use. Eg. Each area controls it’s population, and there are people in that sector who rule it and govern it the way they see fit. I have blogged about this before.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leaderless_resistance
I have been reading up about this, this is what wikepedia has to say.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leaderless_resistance
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General characteristics
A typical covert cell operates as anything from a lone individual to a small group of members. The basic characteristic of the structure is that there is no explicit communication between cells which are otherwise acting toward the same goals. Members of one cell usually have little or no specific information on who else is agitating on behalf of their cause.
Leaderless movements may have symbolic figureheads. It can be a public figure or an inspirational author, who picks generic targets and objectives, but does not actually manage or execute plans. Media, in this case, often create a positive feedback loop: the publishing of declarations of a movement’s role model instills motivation, ideas and assumed sympathy in the minds of potential agitators who lend further authority to the figurehead.[citation needed] While this may be loosely viewed as a vertical command structure, it is notably unidirectional: a titular leader makes pronouncements and activists may respond but there is no established contact between the two levels of organization.
As a result, leaderless resistance cells are largely insusceptible to informants and traitors. As there is neither a center that may be destroyed, nor links between the cells that may be infiltrated, it is more difficult for established authorities to arrest the development of a leaderless resistance movement than more conventional hierarchies.
Given its asymmetrical character and the fact that it is often strategically adopted in the face of an obvious institutional power imbalance, leaderless resistance has much in common with guerrilla warfare. The latter strategy, however, usually retains some form of organized, bidirectional leadership and is often more broad-based than the individualized actions of leaderless cells. In some cases, a largely leaderless movement may evolve into a coherent insurgency or guerrilla movement, as successfully occurred with the Yugoslav partisans of World War II. In the same conflict, the British leadership had extensive plans for the use of such resistance in the event of a German invasion.[2]
While the concept of leaderless resistance is often based on resistance by violent means, it is not limited to them. The same structure can be used by non-violent groups authoring, printing and distributing samizdat literature, using the Internet to create self-propagating boycotts against political opponents, maintaining an alternative electronic currency outside of the reach of the taxing governments and transaction-logging banks.
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I think this is the best structure for any modern movement based on the obstacles that are out there. Doesn’t mean you can not share what is working and what is not working, but it helps to limit your liabilities. It also helps to foster potential leaders, and it makes it harder to get rid of them all at once. Think season seven BTVS “potentials”. Trying to wake up all the leaders at once instead of waiting for one to fall and the other to rise.
I think this is similar to the resistance structure used in the movie V and V the final Battle. Yes I do realise that the movie was about fighting lizard like aliens, but the underlying meaning of the movie was really resisting fascist that had come and were basically doing what the Nazis did.
[quote] Where there are oppressors, there will be those with the courage to resist. That simple truth is the underlying premise of V: The Miniseries, Kenneth Johnson’s allegory to World War II and fascism. [/quote]
We hope there will be those with the courage to resist, it’s not a guarantee, and if enough of those do not wake up, and rise up in time, well the world will still go on as it is.
For any resistance, revolution to take place, people have to realise there is a problem. I didn’t. I thought I lived in one of the best countries in the world, my government was top notch, and those evil crimes of the state were committed by other countries not my own.
Even when I first started to realise that this was state sponsored, I still thought that there would be good politicians who would fix this. I do now see that there are no easy answers, politicians are just people, many of them with average amounts of courage and with more to lose then many other average people. They won’t fix this and the one who tries to, will meet our fate or worst. They can lend an ear, and they can give encouragement, but it’s the people who have the power. The crazy part of this always has been that it’s the people with the power, yet you are giving it up to corporations, and the elite.
If tomorrow we stopped banking with those we bank with, using their Internet, cellphones, cable, phone services, etc, how far would they get? How far would they be? They would be bankrupt and a little more willing to listen to the people. We do have the power, I have never doubted this, but will we ever utilise it?
For me I really do believe that awareness and education is key. If you don’t know something is wrong, how can you resist or rebel against it. If you are happy with what you think is freedom, then how can you fight oppression?
The worst slavery is to think that you are free. We are not free, but how many people really know this? I didn’t.
Once you make people aware, you can not force them to believe you. You can try, but you can’t. You can only wait patiently and hope that they see what you see, feel what you feel.
Eg. [quote]Morpheus: The Matrix is everywhere, it is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window, or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work, or when go to church or when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.
Neo: What truth?
Morpheus: That you are a slave, Neo. Like everyone else, you were born into bondage, born inside a prison that you cannot smell, taste, or touch. A prison for your mind. (long pause, sighs) Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Matrix is. You have to see it for yourself. This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back.[/quote]
[quote]Morpheus: I’m trying to free your mind, Neo. But I can only show you the door. You’re the one that has to walk through it. [/quote]
For about 10 years I thought this movie was just garbage. I really didn’t understand it, and more over felt that the world could never be like this. So I never worried about it, or thought about it. My education into this system was so complete, and I would have argued with anyone who tried to tell me differently. The world however is controlled and we are not free the way we are taught to think that we are.
[quote]There are of course those who do not want us to speak. I suspect even now, orders are being shouted into telephones, and men with guns will soon be on their way. Why? Because while the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power. Words offer the means to meaning, and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth. And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn’t there? Cruelty and injustice, intolerance and oppression. And where once you had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission.
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[quote]But if you see what I see, if you feel as I feel, and if you would seek as I seek, then I ask you to stand beside me one year from tonight, outside the gates of Parliament, and together we shall give them a fifth of November that shall never, ever be forgot. People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people. Strength through unity, unity through faith! I am V. At last you know the truth.[/quote]
Even when I first saw this movie, I didn’t at first realise that this is what is happening within our countries. Again my mind was so firmly ingrained in this freedom concept that I was taught, that I took it for granted that this had any relevance to what I was experience, even though I was aware of Gang Stalking at the time.
Once people are aware, and they believe then the question is what are they going to do about it? Many see truth, trip over it, get up dust themselves off and carry on. The world has always been like this why should it change now? Yes and some do have this mentality and really are happy with the way things are, and that’s fine for them. However if you are not happy with how things are, then this might be a chance to help make others aware.
“During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.” George Orwell
Even if that is your only revolution, at least it’s something.
The reasons revolutions die. Resources, resistance, and renewal.
Resources get tapped out, arrests, lawyers, etc. Resistance is not renewed because there is no one there to keep up the fight and movements are not renewed. How can they be when most of a population is snitching for the state? Also the knowledge is not passed on.
I believe the main problem is the knowledge and the know how not being passed on. Much of it get’s repressed by the state. I have said it before, but every time I go back to old articles in my blogs, many of the links are no longer valid, youtube videos have been removed, etc. It’s like pointing out to the state what bit’s of knowledge got left on the net and what to further repress. Articles go missing, websites go offline, and then all the information has to be gathered again. I think if more effort went into preserving information then we would all be a lot better off.
Tim Fields is a great example. He spent 10 years of his life documenting the bullying phenomenon, just before he could look into collusion he died. The site is no longer available, but someone had the good presence of mind to back up his research.
http://www.bullyeq.com/bol/
http://www.successunlimited.co.uk/
If not for this, then the information would have been lost. Now he had a really good and popular forum and was making great headway, he is a leader people would have followed and rallied around, but now that he is gone, I can’t think of anyone who picked up his research into collusion.
http://www.bullyeq.com/bol/action/obstruct.htm
All the links pointing to his old site are gone and the domain name shows unavailable for the old site. I don’t think anyone picked up the research, but he helped make bullying a household name and he is owed a great deal of gratitude by me and others. His site and a few others helped maintain me before I ever learnt the term gang stalked. Remember I first thought this was harassment, then bullying, then mobbing, then gang stalking. The pieces came together one piece at a time. His story is really amazing, and people have risen up who do maintain bulling sites, but I am not aware of anyone looking into the interconnected corruption aspect of bullying. It is however there for the taking.
I see this as a key problem for many movements that rally around just one person. It has an advantage, because everyone moves as one united front, and it’s easy to give commands and have instructions followed, but on the other hand it’s vulnerable in ways other structures are not.
Then if you do resist, remember some of the fun things that you are going to be up against.
http://gangstalking.wordpress.com/2007/08/18/so-you-want-a-revolution/
It’s just fun things to think about. Many of us did not choose this path consciously, but I think subconsciously maybe I did choose this. So with that in mind, I will continue to do what I can, I know people want direction about what to do and how to do it. I believe that change can happen, but we each have to be willing to play a role. We want leaders, but right now those leaders are the ones with the choker of oppression around our necks. So we cry out for better leaders, but in the end does it really change?
Also what are you really willing, able to sacrifice for this change to happen?
Gangstalking adventures.
Hello world.
This blog is going to be about my adventures with gang stalking. I really didn’t choose this adventure, it choose me about six years or so ago. I didn’t ask for it, but I am living it, and so now I will share my adventures with you all.
I am not on facebook, or myspace. I get asked this question a lot. You can visit the following links to see some of the progress that is being made. I did create a twitter account.
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