Bloodline

Bloodline

I was just thinking it the other day, it’s unfortunate that Kate, Catherine Middleton is not a bloodline type girl. I have heard it made mention that you are to be that type to carry the next generation, who knows if that’s true or not.

Diana was rumored to be that type, but who knows if it’s true or not. The only thing that matters is that she was a wonderful, warm and generous person, and that’s what made sense.

So is there some crazy curse on some of these situations? Do bloodlines have to keep breeding, and mating with each other to ensure the survival of Royal lines? It all sounds so crazy, but what if it’s true? Well the average person need never worry about it, and I dare say neither will this generation have to since it’s predetermined to not be an issue in this case.

Now I thought it would be a delightful topic of conversation to brooch, on the 2nd year anniversary of the nuptials of those two crazy kids who go married a couple of years ago. Congrates on your anniversary. Since bloodline is not a factor what is the bloodline?

Well rumour has it, this is based upon some crazy private research, cause it’s not a topic I was researching at all, the topic just tripped quite creepishly across my lap, and has been there ever since.

When myth became legend

Ok the research shows that there were originally 13 families, they were all eligible to be in the correct situations, and have the correct situations thus occurring and thus happening to them, but there was one others, he was also eligible, but they forgot about his eligibility.

When they were all in their finest moment, they decided to remove him from their situations, they decided to remove him from their outcomes, and so he removed them, and he cursed them. He cursed them fully, utterly and totally for the shame that they had brought upon him, for he was a spiritual being, an angel, but a fallen one.

He was fallen, but still proud, and he had the capacity, the right to be a royal person as well, but they had forgotten about him, they had brought him down low, they had done the worst things to him whatsoever, and in bringing him down low, in shaming and wounding him, his pride, he had brought them down low as well, and so he cursed them, cursed them to the end of time, it was such a curse, as had rarely ever been seen. Till the end of time they were required to mate with each other, and fulfill the bloodline requirements.

Each line of the thirteen would have to mate with each other one by one, and where they would go, wherever they would be known, they would always be welcomed, but they would always be unwelcomed because of the curse, and the curse was such, that it could be felt, the blood had to be acquired, what one seeketh, what one knowith, what one cognizants unto, ones self and unto others, and unless the bloodline was fulfilled, unless it was satisfied, things would never be the same again, so in each generation they were to seek each
other out, find and mate with each other, thus ensuring the generations would continue, and that the curse, or no rather curses would be lifted, because each line was cursed as befitted, the unsuitable things they had done unto him in his situation, unto him in his outcome, and that had to be acquainted.

They would always be welcomed, because who would not welcome a Royal person, royalty betwixt their midths, but who would welcome the cursed, the condemned, because if the curse would not be lifted in each generation, they would walk the earth condemned, condemned, the way they had condemned him, he cursed them, cursed them fully, for each generation to arrive, and they would have to acquaint the next generation with this knowledge, so that the bloodline should continue, to betray was sure death, or worst, an even greater curse at times. The situation must be fulfilled, and with each generation, the blood came back, comes back to seek it’s own.

The most suitable situations would be theirs, but due to the curse, and what they had done unto him, the worst situations would be theirs as well, the curse, disease, death, decay at times, less the curse be fulfilled, and removed.

So that’s the details that I could gather about the bloodline. The blood seeketh it’s own, knowith it’s own, and will aquint it’s own. The situation is as ancient as it seems, it goes way back, and very rarely has such a curse, be placed upon, or set upon humanity.

The ones who are charged with fulfilling this curse, are some of the most condemned in human history, at times they became some of the worst people, thus why they are set upon at times, driven from one location to the next, but on the other hand, it is why they are made welcome, because they are Royal in their situations, they are Royal in their outcomes, but what an outcome indeed.

Happy bloodline if it’s yours, and if you are of the bloodline, are of the faith, and the faith comes calling, be prepared to answer, or be prepared be converted or destroyed, all I can say is you best start believing in ghost stories, because you are likely living in one.

So thus myth became Legend.

The DT STockton Document Reexamined.

The DT STockton Document Reexamined.

Several years ago someone under the name of DT STockton posted a document about his investigation into the informant system. Quite a bit of it agreed with information that I had already come to agree with, but how much could be verified?

Do the informants really have communication via a special frequency? Are most people in major cities on the informant system?

Are some of the businesses being taken over by government agents?

Informants

http://gangstalkingterrorism.wordpress.com/

The answer to the above questions, in my opinion, estimation, and investigation is confirmed, and then some. The world is scarier than we realize. To investigate any of this information, without being familiar with the informant system or government agencies is almost impossible. For a normal, fairly sane person to try to investigate the information can be cumbersome, but in this community of Targeted Individuals, to stay alive and survive, many have had to become minor investigators in their own capacities.

Threat Assessment Teams, the topic has been covered several times, that’s what the community was up against, for case history, I give you the Jane Clift case.

Her case is exactly what most people on a minor scale are up against. In Jane’s case she was advised she was getting listed as medium risk, only to be seen in pairs, and that a warning would come up every time she was in any situation.

http://gangstalking.wordpress.com/?s=jane+clift+

The case is what we end up seeing in the Gang Stalking community, on a minor level.

Eg. Threat Assessment Team, evaluated her as a danger to the community, in her case it was the local council, in other cases HR get’s the person listed, however it happens. Once the person is listed, they are monitored by the local monitoring units, or individuals in the community, in her case she was monitored for trying to be a good citizen. Others have complained about monitoring for arguments with those in the community, or workplace, who have the know how to get individuals listed.

Once the local monitoring unit is called in, you have positions in some countries, such as community advisors, unit commanders, shift commanders, who are responsible for the monitoring, of the individuals. The unit and shift commanders or in some cases “case workers” as one liked to fancy himself as, are responsible. In too many cases some are criminals themselves, and organize a deliberate campaign of harassment, against the individuals.

Thus people on the street are literally being given directions, the ones that are on the informant system, or in some simple cases co-workers are being given a warning about the person. Mostly however it’s the informant class, and the government agent class that create the problems for innocent individuals.

Deliberately trying to destroy their lives, and removing them all too often from their existences.

NOw try coming into any of the above positions without being on the informant system, or agency and those in charge have no idea what to do with you. It would be almost impossible to get into a community advisor role, unit commander role, or shift commander role without being in one of these situation, but if you could get into one of these roles, slip in unnoticed, or accidentally come into the role, then those who interface with these units, have no idea how to interact with the individual, because the systems are now creepishly designed to work with the informant system. Period.

Government Agents

Energy

http://gangstalking.wordpress.com/2010/12/12/energy/

Whenever I read the case of John St Clair Akwei, and what governments are capable of doing, or allegedly capable of doing as per the lawsuit that the signal intelligence agent filed against the government, pertaining to aspects of his work, it always sounds so futuristic, so Matrix like in some ways, but it’s a lawsuit that’s been there for over 15 years now?

The stuff that could be done back then, would scare most people now, but image what they are capable of now, if brain mapping, remote neural monitoring and other situations were common place when he worked for NASA.

http://www.whale.to/b/akwei.pdf

John St Clair Akwei VS Nasa

john-st-clair-akwei-vs-nasa/

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Detecting EMF fields in humans for surveillance A subject’s bioelectric field can be remotely detected, so subjects can be monitored anywhere they are. With special EMF equipment, NSA cryptologists can
remotely read evoked potentials (from EEGs). These can be decoded into a person’s brain-states and thoughts. The subject is then perfectly monitored from a distance.

NSA personnel can dial up any individual in the country on the Signals Intelligence EMF scanning network and the NSA’s computers will then pinpoint and track that person 24 hours-a-day. The NSA can pick out and track anyone in the U.S.

NSA’s Signals Intelligence use of EMF brain stimulation NSA Signals Intelligence uses EMF brain stimulation for Remote Neural Monitoring (RNM) and Electronic Brain Link (EBL). EMF Brain Stimulation has been in development since the MK Ultra program of the early 1950′s, which included neurological research into “radiation” (non-ionizing EMF) and bioelectric research and development.
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Tracking a person via their emf fields. Brain mapping technology that allows you to map a persons mind, but at a distance. [quote]

The NSA has proprietary electronic equipment that analyzes electrical activity in humans from a distance. NSA computer-generated brain mapping can monitor all the electrical activity in the brain continuously. The NSA records aid decodes individual brain maps (of hundreds of thousands of persons) for
national security purposes. EMF Brain Stimulation is also secretly used by the military for Brain-to-computer link (in military fighter aircraft, for example).

For electronic surveillance purposes, electrical activity in the speech center of the brain can be translated into the subject’s verbal thoughts. RNM can send encoded signals to the brain’s auditory cortex thus allowing audio communication direct to the brain (bypassing the ears). NSA operatives can use
this to covertly debilitate subjects by simulating auditory hallucinations, characteristic of paranoid schizophrenia.

Without any contact with the subject, Remote Neural Monitoring can map out electrical activity from the visual cortex of a subject’s brain and show images from the subject’s brain on a video monitor. NSA operatives see what the surveillance subject’s eyes are seeing. Visual memory can also be seen. RNM can
send images direct to the visual cortex, bypassing the eyes and optic nerves.

NSA operatives can use this to surreptitiously put images in a surveillance subject’s brain while they are in R.E.M. sleep for brain-programming purposes.
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Remember it’s been claimed that this stuff has been available for decades. The lawsuit that brought this technology to light was almost 20 years ago, and this is a person who worked for the agency, and I think with this technology.

If this is being used remotely and at a distance on people, how many people in society might not even be aware that such programing has been used on them until it’s too late?[quote]

Capabilities of NSA operatives using RNM There has been a Signals Intelligence network in the U.S. since the 1940′s.

The NSA, Ft. Meade, has in place a vast two-way wireless RNM system which is used to track subjects and non-invasively monitor audio-visual information in their brain. This is all done with no physical contact with the subject. RNM is the ultimate method of surveillance and domestic intelligence. Speech, 3D sound, and subliminal audio can be sent to the auditory cortex of the subject’s brain (bypassing the ears), and images can be sent into the visual cortex. RNM can alter a subject’s perceptions, moods, and motor control. [/quote]

Frequency

The informants are contacted on the street with a special frequency, and they do get instructions, if you could hear the stuff they are advised, literally walk really close to this person, we just want to see if he reacts, we just want to see if she has a reaction to it, mostly the average person would just do what they are told, because most do not see the bigger picture. They are innocent in a way, but some are pretty specific, eg. Driving close enough to cause an accident, deliberately, some are all too knowing, and cognizant, meaning fully aware. It’s a scary balance, and I can now personally attest to the fact that they do have in most cases, directions that are being conveyed to them. A frequency is being utilized, and that’s pretty scary.

Could a variety of individuals be on the informant system? I mean to be an informant don’t most people have to be criminals? It’s pretty scary, because in most people’s mind’s informants are criminals, at least in my mind they were, but in today’s society, they get all sorts onto the informant system. I do feel that some groups are targeted more than others, just based on attitudes and mentalities of those that are deliberately assigned with ensuring school children get placed on the informant system. High School and the informant system, jr high and the informant system. Yes that’s the fate of some of our school children, isn’t that nice.

You would think that people have to commit some major crime, but even with just the items I’ve researched online, eg. Rachel Hoffman.

http://gangstalking.wordpress.com/2009/03/01/rachel-hoffman-deadly-dealings/

http://gangstalking.wordpress.com/2010/10/14/throwdown/

Or even the girl who got stopped for parking tickets, had no drug use or drug selling history, from a small town, and was placed on the informant system as a confidential informant. In that specific case, her dad went back with her to the station, and removed her from the informant system, in that case she had a lawyer in the family. The point is innocent people who have no idea how this working, are being destroyed, converted, etc. So when a document appears online explaining that many in major cities are already on the informant system, don’t be surprised, because the above example, was from a small town, and if the small towns are this far gone, then that becomes problematic.

http://www.november.org/stayinfo/breaking09/Attica_Informants.html

http://www.snitching.org/2009/11/recruiting_new_informants.html

{November 10, 2009
Posted by Alexandra Natapoff at 06:27 AM
Recruiting new informants

Here’s a revealing article in the Buffalo News: Walking thin line in Village of Attica: Would-be informant says police coerced her into cooperation. It’s about Bianca Hervey, a 20-year-old college student who got pulled over by police for failing to pay her traffic tickets. The police threatened to put her in jail for the night, unless she agreed to become a drug informant. Although Hervey did not use drugs or have any connections to the drug world, police told her it didn’t matter–she could still work as a snitch and try to set people up. Frightened of going to jail, Hervey signed the informant agreement. When she told her father, attorney Richard Furlong, what had happened, however, he “went ballistic.”

Furlong went to the police and to the City of Attica and complained about the recruitment of young people into the world of drugs, but the police and the Village Board refused to change the policy.

This story illustrates how snitching has quietly become such an immense part of the criminal justice system. Many cities have policies like Attica’s, in which police can recruit any potential offender as a drug informant–even a 20-year-old guilty of nothing more than a traffic violation. It was this same
type of policy that led to the death of 23-year-old Rachel Hoffman in Tallahassee, Florida, and triggered Florida’s ground breaking legislation on the subject of informant-creation. See post: Florida’s “Rachel’s Law” offers some protections for informants.}

Alexandra Natapoff, has done some wonderful research into the informant system, she is a lawyer, and the above summary is from her. Her statistics more importantly, back up much of what has been said about the numbers, and figures of those on the informant system in most major cities, and some communities.

In summary, it’s not paranoia when they are out to get you, as the saying goes, and it’s not paranoia to believe that too many people are on informant systems, and in or a part of government agencies. The things Targeted individuals blog about, satellite tracking, etc, that’s common knowledge, because their are articles which cover, how local police and others have access to these minor technologies, and have had access for years. The items less well known, but that have also been pretty common are things like the John St clair Akwei case, and the technologies used there. The figures on the informant system are understated, to say that have or above that in cities are on the informant system, is understated.
To say that school children are being stopped, interrogated for minor things, and then placed on the informant system, similar to how Bianca Harvey was, is not an exaggeration. “Weed” children is not a good look, and it’s also, one of the ways these kids in today’s society are getting themselves into these situations, but also at times they are foolishly, and unwisely being set up by their little friends, who are already on the informant systems.

Full of Grace

This is the type of post that I truly am not fond of, because there is no way to fully verify the details at present. What information there is, has been gleamed from a UK source, who is  intimating that they have information or details about a small underage minor child of four, who is the god child of someone prominent position, who is in the incorrect situation with that person.  It intimated that the child is being  molested, and abused to the stage that it does not make any sense.

http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2012/03/six-men-film-gang-rape-of-15-year-old.html

[quote]BBC–Six men filmed themselves as they raped and sexually assaulted a drunk 15-year-old schoolgirl, a jury was told.  The girl was taken to three different houses in Dewsbury, West Yorkshire, during the course of one evening in May 2010, Leeds Crown Court heard.[/quote]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/10/four-charged-in-gang-rape-of-15yearold-bay-area-student.html

[quote]Investigators say as many as 20 people were involved in or stood and watched the gang rape of a 15-year-old girl outside a California high school homecoming dance Saturday night.[/quote]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/10/27/california.gang.rape.investigation/index.html

[quote]Richmond, California (CNN) — Investigators say as many as 20 people were involved in or stood and watched the gang rape of a 15-year-old girl outside a California high school homecoming dance Saturday night.[/quote]

The feedback or rather what’s floating around is that the stories above are starting to resemble a typical weekend in the child’s life, weekends where the child is being handed off to this source. What’s floating around is that the physical beatings are becoming all too common place, along with the molestation of the child in question, and that the child’s future prospects are not going to be happening, unless something is done.

The claim is that several individuals involved in the actual situation, including the enabling parents, who keep willfully, deliberately, and knowing keep leashing the child out to such situations, have all been advised, but because the person is part of a very powerful establishment, nothing is being done at the moment.

Verifying all the horrific, and I do mean horrific details at the moment is fully impossible, but I do believe the bulk of the information that has been posted, for my own personal reasons. If the stories are true, I am truly, and deeply heartbroken to think that such horrors could happen in this world, unacknowledged, unaided. If I could verify any of this fully, I would, but can not at the moment.

When you read stories such as the above online, it’s easy to be horrified, and ask why more is not being done, if the stories are what they seem, it is truly horrific, I am remaining glued to the papers to see if any real world details can be verified, but beyond that, that’s all the information that’s been gleamed.

I recall reading about a very powerful politician once in an online post, about the things they were getting up to, and it was years before there was a real world story, where some of what was being implied could even be verified. A lot of forums, blogs, have interesting information floating around, but it’s often almost impossible to verify those stories, or sources, until real world details appear in the papers.

~All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke

Conspiracy theories and misinformation

Conspiracy theories and misinformation
May 24, 2010

Conspiracy theories exist in the realm of myth, where imaginations run wild, fears trump facts, and evidence is ignored. As a superpower, the United States is often cast as a villain in these dramas.

The above excerpt is taken from a U.S. government website called American Gov, that seeks to assure visitors that conspiracy theories do not exist. That they are just wild imaginings.

It’s good to know that events such as Cointelpro, McCarthyism, 9/11, and many others are just myth. That conspiracies just exist in the realm of myth, and wild imaginations. Conspiracies such as Cointelpro, at the time would likely have received the same label until it was proven to be true.

Gang Stalking World has been uncovering myth which proved to be fact, and the wild imaginings of a group of Targeted Individuals have proven to be factual. There is indeed a systemic wide program that is capable of doing all that targets have been reporting over the last several years and more.

In fact it’s been shown time and time again that the American Government is fully capable of planning wild conspiracies such as Operation Northwoods. That the government has been involved in many other wild plots to take over foreign countries, and governments, Iran and many Caribbean Island nations being just some examples.

Let’s also not forget the wild conspiracy of MK Ultra and the government willingly drugging unwitting individuals with LSD and other drugs, to create mind controlled subjects. I am sure at the time this was often delegated to the realm of myths as well.

The average conspiracy theorists who has studied such events, knows very well that conspiracies often belong in the realm of truth. Many also realise that their imaginations are often not wild enough to cover the scope of the conspiracies once they are uncovered and the full truth has been revealed.

The government will then have to forgive those simple conspiracy theorists, who have studied history, more specifically the history of the American government, and who realise that conspiracy is often based in fact, if not full out truth. That events that the government would rather delegate to the realm of the twilight zone or mythology often belong in the very real realm of fact.

1. Cointelpro

COINTELPRO (an acronym for Counter Intelligence Program) was a series of covert, and often illegal, projects conducted by the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) aimed at investigating and disrupting dissident political organizations within the United States.

Cointelpro also included political assasinations. Blackmail, blacklisting, illegal breakin’s, sabatage.

2. MK Ultra

Project MKULTRA, or MK-ULTRA, was the code name for a covert, illegal CIA human research program, run by the Office of Scientific Intelligence. This official U.S. government program began in the early 1950s, continuing at least through the late 1960s, and it used United States and Canadian citizens as its test subjects.[1][2][3] The published evidence indicates that Project MKULTRA involved the surreptitious use of many types of drugs, as well as other methods, to manipulate individual mental states and to alter brain function.

3. Bay Of Pigs

The Bay of Pigs Invasion (known as La Batalla de Girón, or Playa Girón in Cuba), was an unsuccessful attempt by a CIA-trained force of Cuban exiles to invade southern Cuba, with support from US government armed forces, to overthrow the Cuban government of Fidel Castro.

4. McCarthyism

McCarthyism is the political action of making accusations of disloyalty, subversion, or treason without proper regard for evidence.

From 1951 to 1955, the FBI operated a secret “Responsibilities Program” that distributed anonymous documents with evidence from FBI files of Communist affiliations on the part of teachers, lawyers, and others. Many people accused in these “blind memoranda” were fired without any further process.[20]

The FBI engaged in a number of illegal practices in its pursuit of information on Communists, including burglaries, opening mail and illegal wiretaps.[21] The members of the left-wing National Lawyers Guild were among the few attorneys who were willing to defend clients in communist-related cases, and this made the NLG a particular target of Hoover’s. The office of this organization was burgled by the FBI at least fourteen times between 1947 and 1951.[22]

Among other purposes, the FBI used its illegally obtained information to alert prosecuting attorneys about the planned legal strategies of NLG defense lawyers.

5. Operation Northwoods

Operation Northwoods, or Northwoods, was a false-flag plan that originated within the United States government in 1962. The plan called for Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) or other operatives to commit genuine acts of terrorism in U.S. cities and elsewhere. These acts of terrorism were to be blamed on Cuba in order to create public support for a war against that nation, which had recently become communist under Fidel Castro. One part of the Operation Northwoods plan was to “develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington.”

Operation Northwoods included proposals for hijackings and bombings followed by the introduction of phony evidence that would implicate the Cuban government. The plan stated:

“The desired resultant from the execution of this plan would be to place the United States in the apparent position of suffering defensible grievances from a rash and irresponsible government of Cuba and to develop an international image of a Cuban threat to peace in the Western Hemisphere.”

Several other proposals were included within the Operation Northwoods plan, including real or simulated actions against various U.S. military and civilian targets. The plan was drafted by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, signed by Chairman Lyman Lemnitzer and sent to the Secretary of Defense.

6. CIA Drug Trafficking

Various sources allege the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) has been involved in several drug trafficking operations. The CIA is accused of working with groups which it knew were involved in drug trafficking, so that these groups would provide them with useful intelligence and material support[1][2].

7. Gang Stalking
Under Occupational Health and Safety laws, Individuals are being flagged and placed on community notification lists. This is happening without the targets knowledge. In many countries these community notifications are being used by companies to target innocent individuals such as whistle-blowers, the outspoken, etc. In conjunction with these notifications they are using a practice that was used in the former soviet union called the psychiatric reprisal. This is used as a means of retaliation, blacklisting, silencing, or controlling members of society. Once on the notification system, warnings about the targets are sent out to every individual the target comes in contact with, thus poisoning their associations, and socially annexing the targeted individual.

8. Psychiatric Reprisals

In the former Soviet Union dissidents and activists were routinely decleared mentally ill and sent off to mental institutions. It was a systemic practice used to control dissidence. In the United States and other countries this practice is once again being used on many innocent individuals.

Russ Tice

In a ‘secure’ e-mail message to the DIA counterintelligence office, he demanded to know what had happened as a result of the 2001 report he had filed outlining his suspicions about his former co-worker (not to be confused with Leung). “At the time, I sent an e-mail to Mr. James (the DIA official handling his complaint) questioning the competence of counterintelligence at FBI,” Tice wrote to the Inspector General of the Pentagon’s Civil Reprisal Investigation unit, which investigated his 2003 complaint. In the e-mail, he mentioned that he suspected that he was the subject of electronic monitoring.

In April, 2003, shortly after the e-mail message, Tice was ordered to undertake a psychological evaluation, which he believed was retaliatory. The Defense Department psychologist concluded that Tice suffered from psychotic paranoia. “He did this even though he admitted that I did not show any of the normal indications of someone suffering from paranoia,” Tice said in a statement to the Inspector General.

Two months later, in June, 2003, the NSA suspended his security clearances and ordered him to tasks such as maintaining the agency’s vehicles, pumping gas, and driving officials around. By April 2005, after 14 months of paid leave, Tice was relegated to unloading furniture at the NSA’s warehouses and cleaning them.

The Dark Side

Many times on the news you hear a report about a shooting, killing or violent incident and the person at the heart of the incident is passed off as mentally ill, and the society reacts by creating additional laws to protect themselves from the mentally ill.

What many in society still do not understand or realize is that there is a dark side to many of those shootings and violent incidents, there is a dark side that society would rather not have you know about. A dark side that happens masked just below the public’s eye and awareness, but that is often very real and traumatizing for the Targeted Individual.

In many of these cases if you look deeper into these incidents you will often discover that there was more to the story. Before the target had a history of “mental illness”, the target often had complaints of mobbing, bullying, or harassment of some kind. Often times the Target might not even have a term to go with the form of harassment that is happening to them. They often describe individuals around them, or even complete strangers as being mean, taunting, doing little incidents to provoke them. Many of these targets have complained for years about the targeting, but with each successive complaint their actions are often passed off as mental illness. Their very real concerns that some type of organized or systemic harassment, is happening around them often goes unheeded, unheard, and the target might even be forcefully committed by concerned family. When the reality is that the target has been exposed continually overtime to a psychological operation of harassment and provocations, that would be capable of breaking down most of the sane of individuals.

Recently society has become more familiar with terms such as mobbing and bullying.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobbing

Mobbing in the context of human beings either means bullying of an individual by a group in any context, or specifically any workplace bullying.

Though the English word mob denotes a crowd, often in a destructive or hostile mood, German, Polish, Italian and several other European languages have adopted mobbing as a loanword to describe all forms of bullying including that by single persons. The resultant German verb mobben can also be used for physical attacks, calumny against teachers on the internet and intimidation by superiors, with an emphasis on the victims’ continuous fear rather than the perpetrators’ will to exclude them. The word may thus be a false friend in translation back into English, where mobbing in its primary sense denotes a disorderly gathering by a crowd and in workplace psychology narrowly refers to “ganging up” by others to harass and intimidate an individual.

Research into the phenomenon was pioneered in the 1980s by German-born Swedish scientist Heinz Leymann, who borrowed the term from animal behaviour due to it describing perfectly how a group can attack an individual based only on the negative covert communications from the group”.[3]

Mobbing is also found in school systems and this too was discovered by Dr. Heinz Leymann. Although he preferred the term bullying in the context of school children, some have come to regard mobbing as a form of group bullying. As professor and practising psychologist, Dr. Leymann also noted one of the side-effects of Mobbing is Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and is frequently misdiagnosed. After making this discovery he successfully treated thousands of mobbing victims at his clinic in Sweden.

In the book MOBBING: Emotional Abuse in the American Workplace, the authors say that mobbing is typically found in work environments that have poorly organized production and/or working methods and incapable or inattentive management and that mobbing victims are usually “exceptional individuals who demonstrated intelligence, competence, creativity, integrity, accomplishment and dedication”.[4]

UK Anti-bully pioneers Andrea Adams and Tim Field used the expression workplace bullying instead of what Leymann called “mobbing” although workplace bullying nearly always involves mobbing in its other meaning of group bullying.

In the following article some stories of workplace mobbing are shared.

Mobbing

http://members.shaw.ca/mobbing/mobbingCA/workplaceviolence.htm

Workplace Violence:

Why it happens. Why it will continue.

“The tiny percentage of mobbing victims – like Pierre Lebrun – who lash back in violent attack would probably have lived out their lives peaceably and productively had they been spared the excruciating pain of relentless humiliation.”

~ Prof. Kenneth Westhues,
At the Mercy of the Mob: A summary of research on workplace mobbing

We’ve all seen the news reports. A lone gunman returns to his workplace or former workplace to exact revenge for harassment that has gone on sometimes for years. We learn that the gunman has lashed back in the past at those he considered to be abusing him, albeit in non-lethal ways. We are told the gunman has been disciplined in the past for his behavior (reacting to the abuse) and has been ordered to go to counselling or anger management courses. Even though the precipitating abuse may have gone on for years any response in kind gives the bullies and management the opportunity to turn the tables and claim that the victim of abuse is the real problem after all.

Of couse what we don’t hear is that the bullies provoking this reaction are almost never disciplined or required to attend counselling themselves. At this point targets of mobbing are often further humiliated by being forced to sign so-called ‘last chance agreements’ which threaten the target with termination if they dare to challenge the bullies again. So once the target of harassment returns to work after “counselling” they are greeted by cynical bullies who simply renew their attack with added vigor now that they know management will do nothing to stop them and will even join in the persecution. This tacit approval and participation by management guarantees the situation will only get worse.

News reporters interview the gunman’s co-workers, union respresentatives and managers. Those not directly implicated in the harassement of the gunman usually describe him in positive terms. For example in the OC Transpo shooting in Ottawa a co-worker of Pierre Lebrun, Ozzie Morin, commented that Pierre was “a pretty peaceful lad”, “I didn’t think he was ill. I can’t really say anything today that would say he was whacko, you know.” Another co-worker, Grant Harrison remembered Lebrun as “very clever, very nice”. 1

While those closer to the abuse, union reps for example, intent on distancing themselves from blame, respond “We’re going to look for causes but really, I don’t think we’re really going to find a cause,” said union head Paul Macdonnell. “This individual was just sick.”

The societies reaction is too often to pass the individual off as problematic, sick, disturbed, mentally ill, a violent individual. The real causes behind their violent and extreme outbursts often remain hidden. It’s easier to think that we have a few individuals in society that are sick and disturbed vs the fact that we have a society that is doing sick and disturbing things to these individuals and their lives, which in turn leads to these violent outbursts and incidents.

Once educated it is easy to tell what is really happening, who the real victim is. Once it is named and brought out into the light for all to see bullies can no longer operate in the grey area. Only once everyone sees mobbing for what it is, brutal systematic psychological torture, will it become unacceptable. Only when co-workers, supervisors, department heads, HR managers, EAP providers, corporate executives, doctors, lawyers, judges and politicians understand what is being done and comprehend the staggering toll it takes on individuals, companies and society as a whole will laws proscribing mobbing become effective.

In the meantime, the body count will continue to rise.

~ Anton Hout

The body count has indeed continued to rise, but where workplace mobbing and school bullying have become more widely recognized, the issue of community mobbing and Gang Stalking are often less well known, and when violent incidents happen, society does not often readily link these incidents of violence to something more dark and insidious that might be just be happening in the community.

The mobbing community over the years has done a fantastic job of documenting the link between workplace mobbing and violent shootings. They were able to establish that in the case of many workplace shootings if you looked a little deeper there was workplace mobbing ongoing. Workplace mobbing that had gone on for years. The Target of the mobbing had often been singled out as the problem and their cries for help often lead to measures which left them unable to complain any further, take any extra internal actions, and left them at the mercy of the mob.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting

Bullying

School shooting
Main article: School shooting

School shootings have focused attention on student bullying, with shooters in several of the worst shootings reporting they were bullied.

School shootings are a bullying-related phenomenon that receive an enormous amount of media attention. [b]An investigation undertaken by the United States Secret Service found that in over 2/3 of cases, attackers in school shooting incidents “felt persecuted, bullied, threatened, attacked, or injured by others prior to the incident” and discredits the idea that school shooters are “loners” who “just snap”.[/b] Though observing that, “clearly, not every child who is bullied in school presents a risk for targeted violence in school”, the investigation report states that, “a number of attackers had experienced bullying and harassment that was longstanding and severe. In those cases, the experience of bullying appeared to play a major role in motivating the attack at school”. The report also observes “in a number of cases, attackers described experienced of being bullied in terms that approached torment”. The report concluded that, “(t)hat bullying played a major role in a number of these school shootings should strongly support ongoing efforts to combat bullying in American schools”.[4]

Studies prompted by the shootings have shown long-lasting emotional harm to victims. The studies also revealed that bullies themselves are likely to suffer problems as children and adults.[5]

Many in the bullying feild such as the lateTim Fieldalso did a wonderful job with connecting violent school shootings with the concept that the students at the heart of many of those incidents had been bullied. He would also term the phrase bullycide to describe a young persons suicide due to bullying.

Years before bullying became well known, targets of bullying were persecuted, they suffered in silence while their cries for help were ignored. Many were made out to be disturbed or problematic individuals. The reality is that they were enduring months if not years of psychological torture and torment. The shootings gained a lot of attention, and measures were implemented to address school bullying, but years later this is still a very big problem in the school system as seen by the suicide of Phoebe Prince.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Phoebe_Prince

Phoebe Nora Mary Prince[1] (November 24, 1994[2] – January 14, 2010) was a teenager from South Hadley, Massachusetts. She became known throughout the United States and internationally when she committed suicide after suffering months of constant bullying from school classmates. Her death brought calls for more stringent, specific anti-bullying laws in Massachusetts. In March 2010, a state anti-bullying task force was set up as a result of her death.

In the case of workplace mobbing and bullying, the suicides don’t often get the same degree of attention that the shootings do, but they are just as important. They show the darkside of what society is capable of doing. They show a real failure of this system. They also are a striking reminder that even with all the education, lectures, documentation, there is still a long way to go towards getting this type of behaviour resolved. They show a dark side of society, and it’s consistent need to feed off of their members, societies need to demean, psychologically degrade, and belittle those it perceives as weaker, deserving of punishment, or who fail to fall in line with the status quo.

Gang Stalking

http://www.GangstalkingWorld.com

What is Gang Stalking?

Gang Stalking is a systemic form of control, which seeks to destroy every aspect of a Targeted Individuals life. A target will be flagged by the community for various reasons, their information is sent out to the community at large, and they are followed around 24/7 by the members of the various communities that they are in.

The warning will go out to various places including stores, apartment rentals, future employers, communities that the target is visiting, doctors, fire departments, police, etc. A covert investigation might also be opened, and electronic, means used by the civilian spies/snitches as part of the overt and covert monitoring and surveillance process.

Individuals can be flagged designating them as having a history of aggressive or inappropriate behavior. This flagging system will follow the target if they move, change jobs, visit other areas. It let’s the community believe that they are persons who need to be watched or monitored.

“In the service sector this may require identifying to employees persons who have a history of aggressive or inappropriate behavior in the store, bar, mall or taxi.

The identity of the person and the nature of the risk must be given to staff likely to come into contact with that person. While workers have the right to know the risks, it is important to remember that this information cannot be indiscriminately distributed.

Community health and safety

A woman named Jane Clift in the U.K. went through a very similar type of flagging system. A warning marker was placed against her name designating her as potentially violent.

She sensed that, everywhere she went, there was “whispering, collaboration, people scurrying about”. “Everywhere I went – hospitals, GPs, libraries – anywhere at all, even if I phoned the fire service, as soon as my name went on to that system, it flagged up ‘violent person marker, only to be seen in twos, medium risk’.”

Violent Persons Registry

Jane Clift was targeted this way and spent four year clearing her name.

Individuals are being flagged without their knowledge. In many countries these flags might fall under community safety and health laws. It seems that employers, educational facilities, and community centers are in some cases flagging innocent individuals as a means of retaliation, silencing, or controlling members of society.

Being Bullied or Mobbed out of a job can be a devastating experience for anyone. For those who do survive it can lead to post traumatic stress disorder, or even psychiatric injury. The Target can spend years if not the rest of their lives recovering from an attack, unable to work or even attend school.

http://www.bullyonline.org/stress/ptsd.htm#Differences

Differences between mental illness and psychiatric injury

The person who is being bullied will eventually say something like “I think I’m being paranoid…”; however they are correctly identifying hypervigilance, a symptom of PTSD, but using the popular but misunderstood word paranoia. The differences between hypervigilance and paranoia make a good starting point for identifying the differences between mental illness and psychiatric injury.

These symptoms that the target exhibits can also go ignored or misdiagnosed for years by a society that continually fails to understand the emotional and psychologically damaging effects of such practices.

http://www.GangStalkingWorld.com

Gang Stalking is experienced by the Targeted Individual as psychological attack, that is capable of immobilizing and destroying them over time. The covert methods used to harass, persecute, and falsely defame the targets often leave no evidence to incriminate the civilian spies.

It’s similar to workplace mobbing, but takes place outside in the community. It called Gang Stalking, because groups of organized community members stalk and monitor the targets 24/7.

Many Targeted Individuals are flagged, harassed and placed under surveillance in this way for months or even years before they realize that they are being targeted by an organized protocol of harassment.

The Targeted Individual community has spent the last few years playing catch up, and trying to firmly establish a coloration between incidents of violence in the community, and the very real fact that many of these individuals might just have been targets of a practice that has become known as Gang Stalking.

In the bookBridging the GapBy: GmB Bailey, there is a whole chapter demonstrating just how easily conspiracies can happen, often right under the public’s scoop of visibility and awareness. With Gang Stalking the community goes into hypervigilance or vigilante mode, trying to remove an individual that they see as a danger or undesirable. The society firmly believes that it is doing something good and beneficial for the community, but in reality they are exposing these individuals to months and years of what amounts to a psychological operation, capable of breaking down and destroying the individual, or driving that person to committing acts of violence.

Over the last several years there have been several such shootings, where the individuals complained about surveillance, monitoring, harassment, people saying rude things, gaslighting, but the individuals are always written off as being mentally ill. It should be pointed noted that with school shootings the kids where once written off as kids who snapped without cause, and the same was true for workplace shootings. They were also written off as people who went postal without any cause. Once a correlation of prior complaints could be established a very different story emerged. It was then noted that in 2/3 of all school shootings the targets had complained about bullying without anything being done, and the same is true for workplace mobbing.

What the Targeted Individual community now has to establish is the link between incidents of violence in the community and these community flaggings, warning markers or listings that individuals are having added to their files, otherwise known as Gang Stalking. What needs to be established is the fact that the violence is happening in some if not most cases, not because the person is mentally ill or violent, but the actions of the community once the individual is flagged in this way, is leading to incidents of violence or mass shootings in the community. The endless community mobbing that the target experiences, which is basically amounts to a psychological operation, that goes on for months if not years, is what is leading to these incident of violence in society.

Were the following cases simply disturbed or violent individuals, or were they targets of something far deeper, something more insidious, the dark side of society?

Jiverly Wong

The news reported Jiverly Wong as a loser with a failed marriage, who had once tried to rob a bank. A person who had a history of drug abuse, and who could not hold down a job.

The story that Jiverly Wong tells is very different.

http://gangstalkingworld.com/Media/2009/04/jiverly-wong

Jiverly Wong tells a story of 20 years worth of harassment, by members of the community, but mostly by police officers. He talks about rumours and slanders, he also describes what sounds similar to what Targeted Individuals describe as Electronic Harassment. When reviewing Jiverly Wong’s story, it became clear that there were discrepancies. His parents had no reason to believe that he had ever been married. The bank robbery was a lie told to police which established an investigation being opened. None of Jiverly Wong’s co-workers reported any type of a drug problem. His job loses were not job loses, he had worked at one company for several years then left. They report him as an excellent worker. With his second job the factory closed down and he was laid off. He then tried to take an English language class, but reportedly dropped out, most likely due to mobbing. This same school would be the focus and target of his anger.

To look at the story the media painted was to see a paranoid individual, but once society is aware of the psychological operation that goes on behind the scenes, Jiverly Wong’s complaints about what happened to him become far more credible, and requires closer examination. Not just for Jiverly Wong, but for those who were the targets of his final outrage at society. If a correlation can be established, if his complaints can be verified, then maybe this can be used to make sure such incidents do not happen in future.

Kimveer Gill

http://gang-stalking.blogspot.com/2007/02/kimveer-gill-revisited.html

http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/story.html?id=fea965ce-4606-4a63-a92b-1ae28e07df8b

Kimveer Gill in the news was painted as an anti-social young man, who one day took a gun and for no apparent reason, went on a shooting spree at Dawson College. The reports could find no reason for his shooting. The shooting was in fact attributed to the goth lifestyle and goth culture. The website VampireFreaks.com was in the spotlight for weeks if not months as a possible source for individuals who might be violent.

When reviewing Kimveer Gills postings, there were little hints that something else might have been ongoing, that might have contributed to the shootings.

Dated September 12, 2006

Stop Bullying

It?s not only the bully?s fault you know!!It?s the teachers and principals fault for turning a blind eye, just cuz it?s not their job. You f*ckers are pathetic. It?s the police?s fault for not doing anything when people conplain (oops, my mistake, the cops are corrupt sons of whores,
so it?s not like they can do anything about it.)
F*CK THE POLICE

It?s society?s fault for acting like it?s normal for people to be assholes to each other. Society disgusts me. It?s everyone?s fault for being so apathetic towards f*cking everything that doesn?t affect them personally. F*CK YOU
SOCIETY.

I wonder why my household has been under surveillance by law enforcement for 6 years now? Makes no sense to me!!

Kimveer didn’t work at all in 2006, telling his mother he was tired of how people doing contract work were treated.

People kill each other

Rape women

Molest children

Deceive and betray

Destroy lives

Bullying and torturing each other at school

What kind of world is this? What the f*ck is wrong with people. This world … this life, is worst (sic) than hell.

“Postal dude was sad before he became angry and psychotic, that’s the part we never see in the game. He was normal, but the world made him the way he became.”

His postings sound very rambling at first, but he talks of bullying and schools who do nothing. He talks of police who do nothing when people make complaints. He talks about his house being under surveillance for over 6 years.

It might just be the ramblings of a disturbed individual, but it’s also very possible more was ongoing.

The message said that the same thing could happen again if Rajan’s demands for $10 billion in compensation for both he and Kimveer weren’t met.

That same day, they searched the house and discovered a three-page typewritten letter in which Rajan demanded $10 billion “for all the violations, damages, suffering” committed by citizens and the government and “for the negligence of their law enforcement agencies.”

Police also found one of Rajan’s chats on his computer, in which he demands $10 billion for both him and Kimveer for violations of their fundamental rights, like “freedom from torture” and the “right to paid holidays.”

During his interrogation with police, he said he had no knowledge of what his friend had planned. He also said that for the past five or six months, he had developed the ability to read people’s minds, had telepathic powers and had the ability to move people and animals.

Kimveer’s friend Rajiv Rajan wrote some interesting postings after Kimveer’s death. He wrote about damages, suffering committed by citizens, and the government. Neglegence of law enforcement agencies. Violations of his and Kimveer’s fundamental rights, for freedom from torture.

Might just be the ramblings of someone who has since been diagnosed as schizophrenic with a history of depression, but his statements might also shed more light on what might really have been happening with Kimveer Gill.

http://gangstalking.wordpress.com/2009/06/05/droege-the-right-and-the-system-in-between/

Keith Deroche

Friday said the 44-year-old Deroux’s cocaine addiction was fuelling ‘paranoid delusions’ that listening devices and cameras had been placed in his apartment. The drug addict believed someone was sending him coded messages through his computer and, even after moving to a new residence, Deroux feared people were entering his house through an underground tunnel and funnelling “noxious gases” into the residence. The only person with enough resources for this kind of surveillance, Deroux figured, was his friend and cocaine dealer, Wolfgang Droege. …

Mr Deroche would then shoot and kill his friend Wolfgang Droege who he blamed for the surveillance and mishaps going on in his life. He gave what to many seemed like a wild, paranoid drug induced description of being under surveillance, gassing, harassment, people entering his home, and that it continued after he moved.

Was he just spewing out a drug induced fantasy or was he on a list, flagged, with a warning marker against his name?

Damon Thompson

http://www.guardian.bz/component/content/article/53-headlines/842-belizean-stude%20nt-at-ucla-facing-attempted-murder-charges

The allegation against 20-year-old Damon Thompson is that on Thursday October 9, he attacked a 20-year-old female classmate Katherine Rosen. It happened in an organic chemistry class in the William Young Hall at the university sometime around midday on Thursday when Thompson allegedly pulled out a knife and stabbed Rosen five times and slashed her throat.

Thompson, an A -student with consistent excellent academic performance is an only child of Judith Brook a legal clerk with the Legal Advice and Services Centre in Belize City. While the US media has painted a negative picture of Thompson,
sources close to him and his family indicated that prior to this incident he had made countless complaints against classmates and this specific lab partner but with no results. Contrary to US media reports, Thompson did know Rosen who was his lab partner and who has been very offensive to him on previous occasions and even the day in question. Now UCLA in an attempt to shift blame away from itself has sought to discredit the mental stability of Thompson by using his many complaints by e-mail as an indication of instability.

When this story occurred, the American media painted Damon Thompson as a student that had walked into a classroom, pulled out a knife and stabbed a random student. He was immediately painted as mentally ill, and placed in jail. That is the bulk of what many will remember about this story, but digging a little deeper and told a very different story.

He had been familiar with Rosen his lab partner, he had made many complaints about harassment, and he had in particular complained about her on several occasions, but I reports of this do not seem to have been printed in the American Media.

http://gangstalkingworld.com/Forum/YaBB.pl?num=1255211726

Frank said he grew concerned about Thompson in mid-December 2008, after the student sent several e-mails complaining that classmates sitting around him had been disruptive and made offensive comments to him while he was taking a written exam.

In one of the e-mails that Frank provided to The Times, Thompson, 20, also accused Frank of taunting him.

“I believe I heard you, Professor Frank, say that I was ‘troubled’ and ‘crazy’ among other things,” Thompson wrote in the e-mail. “My outrage at this situation coupled with the pressure of the very weighted examination dulled my concentration and detracted from my performance.”

Frank said he was told that other professors had reported similar exchanges with Thompson, who complained he was the constant target of taunts from students across campus — in dorms, dining areas and the library. A university official told Frank that he could only suggest that Thompson seek treatment, but they couldn’t require him to seek psychological help. “My concern was in the context of other violent incidents on campuses around the country,” Frank said.

To Frank, the e-mails he received from Thompson indicated the student was in need of serious help. Frank said he urged university officials to take action. An official told Frank that they could only suggest to Thompson that he seek treatment, but they could not require him to seek psychological services.

University officials have acknowledged that “Thompson was known to our student affairs office prior to the incident,” but could not disclose information about the suspect, citing privacy laws.

When the story was examined a little bit closer it was clear that he had made several complaints about disruptions not only by the students around him, but also by also by professors. His complaints had not been taken seriously, infact he it seems that he was viewed as the problem for making the complaints which most often happens in cases of workplace mobbing, and habitual bullying in the schooling system. It should be noted that the professor he had accused of harassment, was the one used in the interview. What is happening in cases of this is that the system is not correcting itself, instead of tackling systemic bullying, harassment, mobbing, these individuals are all too often placed on lists, have warning markers placed against their names, or flagged, once this happens, it almost invariably leads to open season on the target by the community, and an escalation of open harassment. Then further complaints by the target are seen as a cry for mental health and not what they should be seen as, which is a system that is broken and not functioning. This is is also often a precursor to Gang Stalking, and the escalation of systemic harassment.

Abdo Ibssa

http://www.scrippsnews.com/node/53178

“We’ve heard him say crazy things and do crazy things,” said neighbor George Johnson. “The chip they’re talking about–I don’t know where that came from, but he kept on thinking that the government put a chip in him.”

http://www.tadias.com/04/21/2010/police-hospital-shooter-mentally-ill-had-grudge/

“The suspect through the note left at his residence indicated he was upset with the doctor, thinking a chip had been placed inside of him during his appendectomy. The suspect believed he was being tracked due to this chip,” Sterling Owen IV, Knoxville’s Police Chief said.

According to the case file, which lists his name as Abdo Ibssa Mohammed, Ibssa told the court he bought his business in 2008 but wasn’t making any money. Handwritten notes indicate he was $80,000 in debt, apparently for an online school he dropped out of in 2007 “due to personal problems.”

The notes also indicate he filed no tax returns in 2008 or 2009.

http://www.scrippsnews.com/node/53178

Also found during the search were a second handgun, a bag of marijuana and a copy of the book “The Official CIA Manual of Trickery and Deception” — a reproduction of a Cold War-era CIA handbook on the use of illusion and deception for acts of espionage.

Ibssa was allegedly involved in a violent incident a year ago, attacking a stranger in a convenience store, according to a lawyer for the man who filed the civil suit.

Jalal Boudarga sued Ibssa for $300,000 in January, claiming Ibssa shoved him violently against his car, causing him to fall to the ground and badly break his leg. Boudarga’s attorney, Jerry Martin, told The Associated Press that Ibssa believed Boudarga said something bad about him in the store.

“I guess if Mr. Ibssa imagined that a doctor had put a computer chip in him, then it’s not that far of a jump for him to imagine my client saying something about him,” Martin said.

It’s very easy to write this man off as a paranoid and mentally ill individual. He has a history of violence, he was just committed to a mental health facility, and he was off his medication.

When you look at the story there are some question left unanswered. Why did this man feel that he was being tracked? Was he being followed, or did he think he was being tracked via electronic means? Why was there a copy of the CIA manual of Trickery and Deception? For those familiar with the techniques used in Gang Stalking rude comments by strangers, that directly correlate to the Targeted Individual are all too common and it would not be very hard to imagine that a complete stranger could indeed have made a comment to Ibssa.

The stories unlike several of the others does not go into enough details, to establish a firm correlation, in regards to what might have been happening, and the some media outlets have claimed that his neighbours are not giving interviews.

If these cases can be reviewed and it is determined that these men or some of these men were on community lists, had warning markers placed on their files, were flagged, then it might help establish a link between these community incidents of violence and these community listings, warning markers, or flags.

If these patterns can be established, then other factors such as complaints to the police and other agencies can be reviewed. Maybe then Targeted Individuals could get more understanding and awareness, vs being written off as mentally ill.

If it can be established that placing people on lists, warning markers, or flagging files causes community paranoia, harassment, mobbing, and Gang Stalking, then in future when targets complain, maybe their complaints will be taken more seriously. Right now complaints are taken as a sign of mental illness, and additional complaints are viewed the same.

The community in the meanwhile thinks that anyone flagged is a dangerous person, and someone that the need to do everything they can to protect and guard themselves against. The target is then exposed to day in day out systemic harassment, which equates to a psychological operation that is capable of driving the target to a breakdown, or acts of suicide or violence.

Community members go out of their way to do things to provoke the target, harass them in subtle ways. Each incident in and of itself means nothing, but the repeated provocations over time, lead to the headlines seen on the news. This is the dark side of society that is not seen or reported.

It took years for enough research to be put into place to establish a direct link between bullying, mobbing and acts of violence. This process within the Targeted Individual community can be more readily streamlined, by checking to see if any of these individuals had such warnings or flags on their community files.

If they do has such warnings, then it’s important that this link be used to draw the correct conclusion, which would be that placing such warnings against individuals files, can and often does lead to identifiable patterns and cycles of harassment. This then causes acts of violence with in the community as the target is provoked, monitored, and psychologically harassed on a daily basis, everywhere they do. This is the conclusion that should be reached vs people on these lists are violent for no apparent reason and without any justification. It’s important to look at cause and effect.
If the communities actions are leading to these end results then it’s important to establish laws and support for targets to address this, so that fewer incidents will be caused over the next few years.

False Hope?

False Hope?

I saw the draft for a new bill and initially got excited that someone was looking to draft a bill.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/28373533/Advanced-Media-Press-Release-Organized-Stalking-and-Directed-Energy-Devices-and-Weapons-Bill-May-19-2009

[quote]Advanced Media Press Release Organized Stalking and Directed Energy Devices and Weapons Bill May 19, [/quote]

The problem with this bill or any other however is that if it does not address what is really happening it is just more false hope, more distraction, that will lead targets in the wrong direction and waste their time.

Real targets you can not afford that.

It’s taken some time, but this week there was some small success in getting generating enough interest in the subject of Gang Stalking to have a positive article written about the subject matter.

Keep in mind that these articles do not always have long shelf lives. That is why every real oppertunity counts. Eg. I was just trying the link for the article

“Stalker Claims unsettle police”

The link was not working and a search for a new link was not successful. The original article just came out last year.

http://www.vcgtimes.com/NC/0/355.html

[quote]Stalker claims unsettle police

(by Anthony G. Attrino – March 12, 2009)
Detectives are questioning a former Verona resident who has been handing out fliers claiming a large, organized group of stalkers is targeting residents and business owners with the objective of destroying their lives.

“Their intention is to murder their target without getting their hands dirty. It’s the perfect hate crime.” states the flier, which is titled “A Community Secret Revealed: Organized Stalking is Thriving in NJ.”

[/quote]

It’s important that the right focus is not shifted away. If any bill is created that does not point the finger at government or community programs, then they will do Gang Stalking targets very little good. The same was true for this story.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/07/court-to-defendant-stop-blasting-that-mans-mind

[quote]Court to Defendant: Stop Blasting That Man’s Mind!

[/quote]

The story was great on the outside, and it was good in some regards, but not many targets could use it for getting out of their own situation or circumstances. His case was very specific, and the person failed to show up for court.

This is being done by government programs. The finger must be pointed, or it does not matter how many politicians, fake experts, fake groups they throw at us, as a community we will never get where we need to be if we allow ourselves to be falsely distracted.

We need laws which for the state to share with an individual when they have been placed on lists, so at least they have an idea of what is happening to them. We need oversight of these programs, there is none happening now, and devastating consequences are happening. From what I can see, it’s fully deliberate, and designed to be that way.

It’s more false hope that plays into the hands of these people once again.  Let’s stay focused and when real evidence presents itself let’s examine those channels. There is lot’s of good information coming out about Violent Person’s Registries, and this is a very strong direction that we should all be looking at and examining. If this is what is being used, then any future laws to protect Targeted Individuals, must go after these lists, and oversight of these lists. Plus Freedom Of Information Act requests, to see who has been targeted by these programs.

Gangs and their secrets

The informants can also be compared to a gang and how a gang functions. I have compared them to cults, gangs, secret societies, etc. It’s all the same. Members who keep a code of silence.

There are many gangs in society but this is the main one, and it comprises all of the smaller gangs or minor ones. So it incorporates, government branches, the cops, the Mafia, street gangs, masons, Scientologist, black activists, kkk, store owners, company workers, almost every religious sect you can think of. Every sector of society takes part. I don’t think I can make this any clearer. As much as they might all pretend not to get along, when the state comes calling, they will communicate together in public, and they are unified when it comes to their informant system.

Gangs rely on silence, so ofcourse this relies on silence. The snitches don’t want their I feel special club exposed.

Scientologist have Scientology, Masons have Masonry, and the snitches have this. This is their gang, their cult, their secret club. They feel special being a part of this. So yes the secrecy is a big part. They get so upset realising that outsiders know. They like this cause it makes them feel connected, belonging, like any gang or cult would. The mafia is one type of gang, so are the cops, so are street gangs, and the members join for different reasons. Many clubs have secrets, that the members are expected to uphold.

The cops, informants, and gangs use one handed sign languages. http://gangstalkingworld.com/Media/category/one-handed-sign-language/

Where the cops and street gangs wear uniforms or matching colors, the informants often look like average people for the most part.

Some Gangs, some cults, some cops, some informants do underhanded things. There have been many cases where members of these groups have been caught doing illegal, immoral things.

Some Gangs, some cults, some cops, some informants  are corrupt. There have been cops caught dealing drugs, informants caught in huge lies that destroy lives, cults have been known to do corrupt things as well. I think most targets are familiar with the corrupt actions of some of the informants.

Some Gangs, Some cults, some cops, some informants , use lies, bullying, intimidation, and  fear to control their members. There are informants that want to speak out, but they are controlled by fear in some cases. They are lied to in others, and in some cases feel that it’s their patriotic duty to keep the secret. We have seen via gang stalking all of the above methods used to try to control and destroy the lives of targets.

The only thing with gang stalking is that it takes all the cults, gangs, cops, informants, and they are all part of one big gang. One big conspiracy of silence, and because so many people take part, many who realise what is going on lie to themselves. They believe that they are part of something that is good, nobel, protecting the city. They take part following orders instead of thinking. They pretend that this is normal, some of them see it as a good thing. To wake up to the truth that this is not normal, would shatter their reality. Many see it as power, rather than the enslavement that it truly is. To realise they are slaves, might mean doing something about it.

Many like the sense of belonging, sense of community, many on the inside don’t see things the way we do. They like the power, the connectedness, that feeling of finally fitting in, having a purpose. That is what keeps this going, and they don’t want their little secret club to be exposed.

Many people complain about cops and their blue wall of silence, or that gang members won’t snitch, or about how Masons, and other cults keep secrets, but then they turn around and they do the same thing. They keep secrets. They tell lies to keep their secrets safe. Their are hundreads of targets online saying that they are being abused by this system, but the cult/gang members still keep the secret. Then get made at other clubs or cults who do the same. It’s no different. They have their secret handshakes, you have your sign language.

Lies, manipulation, bullying, murder are used to keep your little system going just like any other. People who like these smaller gangs, cults, clubs, for the most part like this bigger one, cause the same things that allowed them to keep the secrets, tell the lies, do the damage, or destruction for these smaller clubs is what will cause them to do the same for this bigger club.

Gangs like their secrets, and they are willing to lie, bully, harass, intimidate, or destroy the innocent to keep these secrets. The informants in many cases are no different.

Voice to skull

Voice To Skull otherwise known as V2K.

Now let me state this before I go further. I am not an expert on this topic. I have never been a target of this practice. My knowledge is limited, but I do get questions in regards to this from time to time, so I am going to try to tackle this in a small way.

This is not advise, a professional opinion, or legal feedback in anyway shape or form.

I also want to say to true targets of this practice, I think you are very brave discussing this stuff. It can not be easy, and I hope that technology can be found to counter what is happening.

Some targets legitimate targets complain about hearing voices. If you are from outside the community and someone tells you that they are hearing voices you assume that they are crazy right?

Well the more you know the better able you are to make informed choices and opinions.

Now after watching this video, do you think that everyone hearing voices is crazy?

What about after watching this clip from Real Genius? It’s a 1980′s movie staring Val Kilmeer, where they get someone to hear voices via a tooth implant.

They put the person to sleep, do a bit of drilling in his tooth, and he wakes up thinking that he is hearing the voice of God. This was a cheap 80′s trick. Actual technology has come a long way.

The clip will not be posted here, but if you really look for it you can find it. Or just rent the movie.

You can even watch the movie control factor. Where they also use technology to get people to hear voices. In an apartment not too far from where the target lives.

[quote]“The American people have been kept in the dark about the true scientific progress in this country. Technologies of mass-control exist that the public would never dream off. I know because, I helped developed them. They call it psychotronic warfare, a research program dealing with mind-control. They can control everything what a person does, voices, that is how they get ya. This is not the elected government, this is the national security empire, the dark vaders of the 21st century.” –Control Factor

Credit Source:
This short video clip was taken from the movie “Control Factor(2003) by Universal Studios”

More Mind-Control Sources:

Mind Control The Ultimate Terror:
http://www.educate-yourself.org/mc/

Psychotronics:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/cienc ia_psychotronicweapons.htm

Mind Control with Silent Sounds & Super Computers:
http://www.educate-yourself.org/cn/mindcontrolw ithsilentsounds24jun05.shtml

Digital TV – Mind Control by sound of silence:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica /esp_sociopol_mindcon40.htm[/quote]

Now control factor is just a movie, but the concept of the technology is very real.

This silent sound technology was patented years ago. Microwave hearing, which would allow a microwave to send voices directly inside the human head.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_auditory_effect

[quote]
The microwave auditory effect, also known as the microwave hearing effect or the Frey effect, consists of audible clicks induced by pulsed/modulated microwave frequencies. The clicks are generated directly inside the human head without the need of any receiving electronic device. The effect was first reported by persons working in the vicinity of radar transponders during World War II. These induced sounds are not audible to other people nearby. The microwave auditory effect was later discovered to be inducible with shorter-wavelength portions of the electromagnetic spectrum. During the Cold War era, the American neuroscientist Allan H. Frey studied this phenomenon and was the first to publish (Journal of Applied Physiology, Vol. 17, pages 689-692, 1962) information on the nature of the microwave auditory effect; this effect is therefore also known as the Frey effect.

Dr. Don R. Justesen published “Microwaves and Behavior” in The American Psychologist (Volume 30, March 1975, Number 3).

Research by NASA in the 1970s[citation needed] showed that this effect occurs as a result of thermal expansion of parts of the human ear around the cochlea, even at low power density. Later, signal modulation was found to produce sounds or words that appeared to originate intracranially. It was studied for its possible use in communications. Similar research conducted in the USSR studied its use in non-lethal weaponry.[citation needed]

The existence of non-lethal weaponry that exploits the microwave auditory effect appears to have been classified “Secret NOFORN” in the USA from (at the latest) 1998, until the declassification on 6 December 2006 of “Bioeffects of Selected Non-Lethal Weaponry” in response to a FOIA request.

The technology gained further public attention when a company announced in early 2008 that they were close to fielding a device called MEDUSA (Mob Excess Deterrent Using Silent Audio) based on the principle.[1]
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So if a target starts to hear voices how do they know if they are crazy or being experimented on with one of the above technologies or even something more advanced?

This is a hard question to answer. The targeting that we experience I fully believe is capable of driving a perfectly sane person, mentally unstable. However I do believe that some targets are being played with, using some of the above technologies.

If I was a target in this situation, I would use a very scientific method to investigate.

Location.

Are you hearing the voices at all times, or just in specific locations?

Does it happen under water? Is the effect increased or decreased in anyway?

Have you tried to record the voices? Remember we can not hear dog whistles, but they do work. Many sounds are outside of human hearing, but other technology might be able to pick it up.

I am not sure if a microwave would block the sounds out, but if I was a target in this situation, and thought microwave hearing was being used, I would try to see if the noise could be eliminated by testing out a microwave. Eg. Unplugged a microwave, if you place your head/skull inside for a few seconds, do the voices stop? I know this sounds extreme, but honestly it’s something that I would check, takes about 30 seconds and this may or may not be something that could be attempted.

I mentioned recently that they are working on technology to give the world an invisible cloak, should be ready in the next three years or less. Yes an honest to goodness invisibility cloak. Think Harry Potter.

The materials they are using, are designed to bounce off microwave rays and this might help targets in the future if microwaves are being used. However the materials are expensive, but for targets with money to burn, then this could be something to look into.

Underground bunkers, deprivation chambers? I don’t know if any of these would work. Climbing a high mountain? Just to test out different locations, to see if it is something high tech vs low tech, vs something that is with you 24/7.

Again the above may or may not prove or disprove anything but it’s something that I would look into if in the same situation.

Why I believe some targets who say this is happening to them? Well in part because of the above examples posted, but the targets that I do believe, they were really specific.

Ruth Goodman, said it was men that she had dated, who worked in the intelligence industry. She said it happened to her after she was drugged and put under anesthesia. She thinks some form of micro surgery was done. She says they tried to keep her off the internet and prevent her from writing. She died shortly after, so I can’t confirm this one way or another, but her example fits what others have said.

A man I think his name was Tracy said that he could hear people like they were fighting over a microphone, and he knew at least one. To me based on what he said, it sounded like they were close by where they could see him, and the stuff they said, sounded like hicks who really wanted to mess with someone.

Gloria Naylor from what I recall said that her voices prevented her from writing. Now in her case I don’t know if they were with her all the time, or just when near the computer.

I like what Naylor did in the sense that she tried the traditional method, was given medication, it did not work, so she looked around for other answers.

I think this is logical, but as a target, I know that I would do a lot of research, experimentation and troubleshooting first.

So I spent a large part of the last few days brainstorming trying to figure out what things targets have done, and what they could do.

Remember these people who are doing this to you are not God, they would like to be, but they are not.

[quote]They are trying to develop a beam of light, it would be projected onto your forehead, go a couple of milimeters into your frontal cortex, and then receptors would get the reflection of that light, and you would not know. [/quote]

They even have laser microphones.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_microphone

[quote]The main type of laser microphone is a surveillance device that uses a laser beam to detect sound vibrations in a distant object. The object is typically inside a room where a conversation is taking place, and can be anything that can vibrate (for example, a picture on a wall) in response to the pressure waves created by noises present in the room. The object preferably has a smooth surface. The laser beam is directed into the room through a window, reflects off the object and returns to a receiver that converts the beam to an audio signal. The beam may also be bounced off the window itself. The minute differences in the distance traveled by the light as it reflects from the vibrating object are detected interferometrically. The interferometer converts the variations to intensity variations, and electronics are used to convert these variations to signals that can be converted back to sound.[/quote]

The world is changing at a rapid pace. If a target today goes to the doctor to complain of hearing voices, they are still automatically in most cases diagnosed as mentally unstable, but the reality is, if a psychiatrist or other health care professional is not upto date on the latest technology, or even aware of secret technologies, they run the risk of making a faulty dignosis, where someone might actually be telling the truth. The science fiction of yesterday, is science fact today.

Apathy is the key

When I started finding out about Gang Stalking or rather the elements of what was happening to targets, I thought it would be a simple matter of exposure and awareness.

Making people aware that this was happening and finding a responsible legal or political figure to help get this stopped.

Instead what I found was nasty conspiracy after conspiracy. I don’t just mean ours but others. I found that many had come before trying to expose what was happening. Most of the true people only getting so far, before having accidents, dying of cancer, etc.

Then there was the world of shrills, disinfo agents, people giving you 90-95% truth mixed in with about 5-10% of lies and it was their lies you had to try to watch out for.

My greatest surprise was that this is not something new, at first I really thought that the targeting might have something to do with 9/11 and that the informant thing was only recent.

The more research I did, I realised that this system went back to England, the colonies and even before that.

http://www.innocenceproject.org/docs/SnitchSystemBooklet.pdf

I thought it would be a matter of making people aware that this is happening and then surly people would do the right thing and we would get this stopped, boy was I wrong. People don’t do the right thing, they often look the other way and turn a blind eye to injustice. They feel powerless and unable to stop what is happening. They like what is happening, are fully in league and see no reason to stop it. Then there are those who would like to see this system changed.

At first I could not understand how so many people could be a part of what was happening, what I was seeing was far greater in number than any Stasi figures, I had come across. I saw people that I knew, stranger, business owners, co-workers, etc who were a part of what was happening.

On subsequent snooping, I was able to find out more from some of the people who knew about the city wide program, as I was calling it at the time. However it’s not city wide, and it goes beyond borders. Intelligence agencies not only sharing information, but collaborating to destroy lives. If we had real newspapers and real journalists this would not be that hard to figure out, but our media is controlled, and though some would like to write about this, they most likely are not allowed to in one regard or another.

What I found as I researched were other scandals, open secrets, which is what I consider this to be. It’s not a secret, but an open secret. Many people know the bear-bones of what is happening, they may not understand that people are dying, or being tortured, but with the information being put out, it’s not hard to figure out.

http://gangstalking.wordpress.com/2008/07/01/your-government-knows/

I found that sexual abuse of children in large part continues because this system is being protected. We could stop this, but they are part of the sacrifice of this system. Many such as Senator De Champ have exposed this, other have exposed international pedophile rings, protected by people in high places, who are some of the main consumers. Nothing gets done. You have low level arrests, but to shake the system and truly get this stopped would require more, and that does not happen.

http://gangstalking.wordpress.com/2009/04/09/jiverly-wong-letter-from-a-ti-perspective/

You have mass shootings, due to these types of investigations, and people cry and act all outraged. I remember when the Jiverly Wong shooting happened, there was not enough condemnation of him, outrage after outrage, and yet when it came time for the public to truly do something to get this stopped, such as stopping or curtailing these investigations, nothing. So these victims die, but the true culprit this system that saw fit to harass this man for 18 years till he snapped and killed, gets away with it.

Other have gone on shooting sprees for similar reasons. The German shooter who shot up his highschool, Peeka Eric gave similar reasons for the mass murders. Yet it’s easier to write him off as crazy, then to pay attention to what was really said.

http://gangstalking.wordpress.com/2007/11/11/so-you-want-a-revolution-2/

[quote][b]Collective deindividualization is a phenomenon where individual will be trained as part of the mindless herd controlled by state, corporation, church or some other organization, group, ideology, religion or mass delusion system and adopt it’s rules, morality and codes of conduct. This phenomenon has been familiar in all despotic, authoritarian, totalitarian, monarchist, communist, socialist, nazi, fascist and religious societies troughout history. Also, the modern western democratic republics have the same phenomenon. It is just done so that people will think they are free and don’t realize they are being enslaved. Majority of people in society are weak-minded and ignorant retards, masses that act like programmed robots and accept voluntarily slavery. But not me! I am self-aware and realize what is going on in society! I have a free mind! And I choose to be free rather than live like a robot or slave. You can say I have a “god complex”, sure… then you have a “group complex”! Compared to you retarded masses, I am actually godlike. [/b]

[b]Totalitarian governments rule people through education system, consumerism, mass media, monopoly on the legitimate use of physical force (police, military) and laws discriminating people who think differently than the majority. Democracy… you think democracy means freedom and justice? You are wrong. Democracy is a dictatorship of the moral majority… and the majority is manipulated and ruled by the state mafia. Modern western democracy has nothing to do with freedom or justice; it is totalitarian and corrupted system. Laws are made over the heads of the people and people are being brainwashed to support the system and connected to the institutional structures immediately after their birth. Societies are being ruled by manipulative and charismatic politicians who only care about the interests of majority, and who do not base their decisions on reason but emotions and feelings of the masses. These masses let the authorities of state to make all the important decisions for them. The masses will get an education, they study, get a job, go to work and vote in elections. They think they are free and don’t criticise or question the system. They have become robots. It is like a constructed mechanism in mind, that leaves little choice for an individual to think, talk and act independently. [/b][/quote]

From what he wrote in this letter it seems he was quite aware of this system, but didn’t want to be a part of it. No one wants to be a slave. But it seems some will live with it. I think his life was wasted. I believe he had tried to wake people up on Youtube and other means, and even with the following that he had, he still did not see things changing and thus lashed out. Sad, he thought his actions would set off a revolution, but how can they? Look at the sheeple that you are dealing with. In some regards his life was wasted, I really wish that he had kept writing and posting videos instead of doing this extreme action. In researching this shooting it was very sad.

If more people like him who wake up, who seem to be on the inside, then maybe they in time can make the difference. I think they have a better chance of reaching the sheeple, because they are acquainted with the system.

At the end of the day making people aware is only a part of it. Recently I had someone was whining and crying that their secret was being told. Here I am being targeted by this creepy system, that is torturing me and (irritating) me, and then I have some semi brain dead sheeple bitching about how their secret is not being protected. We don’t expect children to protect the secrets of pedophiles who are abusing them, why would the sheeple expect targets to keep the secrets of a state that is abusing and torturing them? Anyways same issue, different perspective.

What reviewing the instances of children being abused by the church, state, pedophile rings, politicians, etc, has taught me is that people will willingly and actively cover for this system. It was not kept a secret because people were not willing to speak out, it’s because when they did speak out they were ostracized, prosecuted, paid off, or silenced. Societies prevailing attitude at the time determined these kids fate.

People don’t like to rock the boat. Most times when the truth comes out there is a brief moment of awareness and then people go back to business as usual.

http://gangstalking.wordpress.com/2008/11/26/when-the-truth-finally-comes/

People are apathetic at times. It can happen. This is for many a minor inconvenience, remember most people see one piece of the whole puzzle, the blood is spread so thin, that it hardly makes a difference.

How to get this prevailing attitude to change? It can change, I have seen it change. We have to keep exposing what is happening. I saw one target say that they were scared to tell their story, and I was thinking, how will you ever be confident enough? If targets don’t stand up to this system then who will?

People have to do what makes them comfortable, if someone is not ready or uncomfortable, then so be it, but three years ago, there was the David Lawson book, a few websites, and no where near the awareness that there is now.

If each person take the initiative, then it can change. People right now in some cases believe that they are doing something good, remember in Nazi Germany the citizen thought they were doing something good, in many cases. When people feel empowered, think that they are helping a cause, or are a part of something greater than themselves, they can be and are capable of some of the worst atrocities.

This time period is no different. Light must continually be shone into the darkness.

Paranoid Propaganda

http://gangstalking.wordpress.com/2008/12/20/paranoid/

Please read the above post.

I made this into a full post, because I very firmly feel that whenever accusations of this kind come up, they must be addressed and set where they belong. A poster from the forum, found my blog posting, and left a comment. Now maybe the poster left it for good, as useful feedback, or maybe it’s just another informant, who is trying to make Gang Stalking sites look like they encourage delusions. As I have said before in dealing with now hundreds if not thousands of people who have come through the site, the long term feedback has been that they feel validated, most knew that something was happening, but did not know what. Some considered crazy as an option, but crazy did not match what they were seeing and most are people who kept looking for other answers to what was happening to them.

I don’t know what the situation was like in Russia when the state started saying that dissidents were crazy. I imagine that many tried to prove that they were not, and tried to also expose what was happening. I do know that in Russia part of what got the abuses exposed were target telling their stories, till there were enough that people started listening. I believe that targets must do similar if they are going to be heard and expose what our governments are now doing.

http://gangstalking.wordpress.com/2009/11/10/too-much-truth/

[quote]I am a member of that forum. The member being gangstalked that you mentioned has said that she is a diagnosed schizophrenic who doesn’t want to take her medication. I assume that you haven’t read any threads posted by her other than the gangstalking one. She said she is being gangstalked by evil or negative energies because she knows who the antichrist is. You were banned because you unknowningly reinforced her delusions.[/quote]

This is the reason the account was banned.

Gangstalking, stop spamming with your links. You seem to be here on a propaganda mission. We don’t allow those kinds of accounts.

Spamming, I was not, at least not intentionally and the links could have been removed. I was posting researched information, not a propaganda mission.

Just because she has been diagnosed as crazy, does not mean that she is. Gloria Naylor a famous target was diagnosed as crazy and is not.

Without knowing more about her case, it’s impossible to know if she really is crazy, or a target or both. The targeting can make you crazy. Just look at what happened in Russia. Targets of the state were consistently diagnosed as crazy.

In America today, the psychiatric reprisal is being used on more and more people who are not crazy.

http://www.harassment101.com/Article5.html

http://www.psychologistethics.net/
http://scientific-misconduct.blogspot.com/search/label/lisa

Good sources of info about people who the state tried to put away as being crazy. It does happen.

Most people choose to believe that someone who talks about being followed around are crazy first and then they ask questions. I do the opposite, I choose to believe that people are sane first and then I ask the questions.

If posting articles about, Cointelpro, The Stasi, and our current surveillance society is going to encourage people to go crazy, or encourage paranoid delusions, then it’s unfortunate, because it’s reality. We live in a surveillance society. Innocent people are being stalked and monitored.

As evidence was presented, questions were asked. She said she knew who the anti-christ was and that she could speak to the dead. Lot’s of people think that, without necessarily being crazy. I did ask her why she felt that way in both cases.

The only thing that I did further was share with her information that myself and others have discovered about the multi generational aspect of Gang Stalking, which is also a fact.

I deeply feel sorry, and concerned about people who think that having good solid information will make people fall further into delusions. God forbid she go to sites about surveillance operations, or read books on such, or watch a tv show on such. God forbid, because I guess that those would be guilty of feeding her delusions as well.

This came up last year interestingly enough. God forbid people read the bible and it fuel their delusions of an omnipotent being that controls the world who they can’t see, but who they believe others have talked to. God further forbid such people to to Churches, Mosques, Synagogue and find others who further their delusions.

Providing a person with credible information about a problem that is happening to others is just that, it’s information that is available in books, on T.V., Youtube, and in other places. This information about Cointelpro, Mobbing, The Stasi, and other forms of harassment were available for years, as long as crazy people have thought that they were being stalked, which in cases like John Lennon turned out not to be paranoia.

The girl might be a real target, that possibility exists. She might also be crazy, that possibility exists. She might also be an agent who specifically is trying to link crazy and Gang Stalking. We had so much of that on Youtube, and on forums. There are agents of the state on most forums. This is a fact. Let me know if you need articles.

You could be here trying to be helpful, but you could also be here trying to link Gang Stalking with enhancing and encouraging the delusions of others. Eg. It’s not the first time this has happened, but as pointed out, these websites do not encourage delusions, anymore than watching tv shows, reading books, or visiting other sites on topic such as Cointelpro, or Stasi website.

If you are here with good intention’s then I thank you, but based on the original posting, and a discussion I had with the webmaster of the forum, that is not why I was banned. If your intentions are to try to link Gang Stalking sites with encouraging the delusions of the crazy, then we have been there done that, and you failed then a well.

Read the links that I posted. People are being set up to be declared as crazy, by our democratic countries. This is sick and wrong like it was in Russia. Because someone is declared crazy does not mean that they are. The girl was being teased and bullied. Crazy or sane that was not right and I stepped in because that is the human thing to do, and I will never regret doing the right and just human thing, in trying to stop her from being picked on. I told her that my first instinct is to believe her and you don’t know how needful that is, but then of course as I get to know her, I would look at the facts in her case and give feedback accordingly.

Even with real targets if I feel that they can not handle their targeting, I will always recommend they seek a support circle. Now I ask you what is being being believed and listened to, or being picked on and put down. She told her story, As I told the girl, I don’t know her and can not judge her crazy. I would rather take her word till more of her case is presented. Wither that is that she turns out to be yet another informant, crazy, target, or something else.

I hope that helps.