Social control and conformity. Part 2.

Part 2 on trying to understand why people do the things they do. Please read part one first. Much more recent.

The Third Wave

The third wave was a creative and ingenious idea from a school teacher, who wanted to help his high school class understand how average German citizens could have gone along with the holocaust.

http://www.ronjoneswriter.com/wave.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Third_Wave

Remember that after just 4 days these kids were getting out of control. You really have to read the experiment to believe it. I also understand that they have tried this on much younger children as well. These kids were forming groups, doing their own version of the hail Hitler sign (third wave), they were ratting each other out, and expelling other students who did not want to go along with the experiment. It really does not take long, or take much.

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The experiment took on a life of its own, with students from all over the school joining in: on the third day the class expanded from initial 30 students to 43 attendees. All of the students showed drastic improvement in their academic skills and tremendous motivation. All of the students were issued a member card and each of them received a special assignment (like designing a Third Wave Banner, stopping non-members from entering the class, etc). Jones instructed the students on how to initiate new members, and by the end of the day the movement had over 200 participants.[3] At this point first Jones was surprised that some of the students started reporting to him other members of the movement who failed to abide by the rules.[3]

On Thursday, the fourth day of the experiment, Jones decided to terminate the movement because it was slipping out of his control.[/quote]

This was middle class America in the 70′s I believe, hard to believe, that these kids could be conformed so easily, but there it was.

[b]Give people a common goal, agenda, some unity, a common enemy, throw in just a little power and watch them go at it, and it does not take long. [/b]

Next time, the Stanford Prison Experiment. Same game different setting.

Social control and conformity.

This is a post for those trying to understand how those in our society could just go along with this. How can people just give thier wills over to something this terrible?

Why is nothing being done? What you first have to realise is that if it’s not done by you or someone like you, then it will not get done at all.

You if you are reading this, and aware of what is going on are going to be one of the ones to do something, or nothing is going to be done. Anyways this post is not about revolution, it’s about trying to understand how our friends, families, co-workers, and neighbours have been co-opted by this system of control and conformity.
Let’s start with the most recent and troubling of cases. A real life case that happened in America.

Information on much of this can also be found on the http://www.TargetedIndividuals.com/Community Forum.

The Strip Search Prank Scam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFXeXK3szOk

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strip_search_prank_call_scam

[quote]The final prank call in this scheme was made to a McDonald’s restaurant in Mount Washington, Kentucky on April 9, 2004. According to assistant manager Donna Summers, the caller identified himself as a policeman, ‘Officer Scott’, he described an employee whom he said was suspected of stealing a customer’s purse. Summers called 18-year-old employee Louise Ogborn to her office and told her of the suspicion. Following the instructions of the caller, Summers ordered Ogborn first to empty her pockets, and finally to remove all her clothing except for an apron, in an effort to find the stolen items. Again following the caller’s instructions, Summers had another employee watch Ogborn when she had to leave the office to check the restaurant. The first employee, 27 year old Jason Bradley, whom she asked to stay there refused to after he was on the phone with the caller, so she phoned her fiance Walter Nix, asking him to come in to ‘help’ with the situation. [10]

According to Ogborn, after Summers passed off the phone to Nix, he continued to do as the caller told, even as the caller’s requests became progressively more bizarre. A security camera recorded Nix forcing Ogborn to remove her apron, the only article of clothing she was still wearing, and to assume degrading positions, such as standing on a chair and getting on all fours. When Ogborn refused to obey the caller’s instructions, Nix hits the 90 lb Ogborn on the buttocks several times creating painful red welts, and at one point he does this for 10 minutes. At the caller’s request, Nix then threatens to beat Ogborn again and forces Ogborn to kiss him and then perform oral sex on him. Ogborn says at the point of sexual assault she was scarred for life.[11] The tape showed that Summers re-entered the office several times and dismissed Ogborn’s pleas for help, a statement which Summers denies.

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Now when I first read this, I honestly thought it was a prank. I had to go and verify the sources. It’s a true enough story. What is more disturbing than this is that it’s not only true, many more cases happened similar to this or just like this in America over the last 10 years.

I was honestly left dumbfounded to realise that on the basis of a phone call from some strange guy pretending to be officer Dave, people had performed strip searched, and sexually assaulted young females, but it’s all true.

I think this honestly like nothing else makes me realise how stupid people are a and b how willing they are to give over their wills, their reasoning, their responsibility to any perceived authority figure. Not just the perpetrators, but the victims as well. Not to blame the victims, but you really have to read these stories to believe them.

You can go to wikipedia to read the other cases. It’s bad enough that people stripped down others on behalf of some stranger over a phone, and that people stood their and left themselves be stripped on behalf of some stranger over the phone, but like I said, a few of these cases actually lead to sexual assault, because some guy over the phone, a perceived authority figure said to.

Remember this guy was not really holding a gun to their head. He was not anyplace where he could see them, or they could see him. But the simple fact that he said he was a cop was enough for them to dehumanise others, on multiple occasion, over a number of years.

This really brought the current predicament of Gang Stalking into focus for me. Those people did all that to virtual strangers, cause some virtual stranger pretending to be a cop, over the phone, without any verification told them to.

After reading some of the stories, I believe these people would have gone much further had he told them to, and perpetrated much more disturbing actions.

We are being stalked and harassed, because some authority figure in the system has set their downline on our tail. Unlike the people in the other situations, the people stalking us know that they too can be stalked, or lose their jobs, and they are being watched by others. Also like some of these sick individuals, they are getting a power trip off of this.

If people will do such evil actions with an unidentified stranger over the phone telling them to do it, what are they willing to do with a real live entity telling them to do it. Add in the fact that some of these can be targeted for refusing to go along with this, and that we have some really sick people in society, it really put this into perspective for me.
Three quick take aways from this video.

[quote]The caller wasn’t always successful; phone records show he sometimes called as many as 10 stores before finding one where managers would take his bait. [/quote]

Not everyone is this stupid, but enough are. Why were these managers capable of independent thought, where the others were not?

Evil will get away with what it can.

[quote]Nix left, drove a few blocks to his home and immediately called his best friend, Grigsby, who recalls Nix saying, “I have done something terribly bad.” [/quote]

Mr church going father of two who sodomised the girl, knew what he was going was wrong, even if it was a cop telling him to do it, or that’s what he believed, he knew it was wrong, but he still did it.

The only good thing about this is that he is serving 5 years in an American prison. Originally his victim had agreed to let him only do parole time, if he admitted he did something wrong.

Refusing to go along with evil

[quote]Refusing to play

`Something is not right,’ 9th-grade dropout decides

It was Simms, the Mount Washington store’s maintenance man and a ninth-grade dropout, who refused to play the caller’s game.

He had stopped by the restaurant for dessert and coffee when Summers pulled him into the office and handed him the phone. The caller told Simms to have Ogborn drop the apron and to describe her. Simms refused.[/quote]

Unlike the one above, there will always be those who will refuse to go along with evil.

Now this was suppose to be one long post, but I will have to break it up into two postings.

I now realise that with people so easily bent, so mailable to evil and corruption, that we really have some times ahead of us.

We are being targeted by the Government, these people have been given free reign to do what they will, and it does not take much to bring out the psychopathic or sociopathic in people when they think that you are someone bad or who has done something wrong. When they see you as less than, or believe that they have a license to ill.

In the case above, the guy on the phone pretending to be officer Dave told them, that this innocent 18 year old girl had stolen a purse. For this they were willing to strip search her, rob her of her dignity, degrade her, and sexually assault her. This happened over a period of three hours, but other incidents happened over a much shorter time period.

The guy on the phone knew what would and would not work, and carried on as if almost from a script, just like the evil forces that seek to destroy us. They know what has worked in the past in East Germany, Russia, Cointelpro, etc. These people are old hands at this, and they also know that it does not take long to turn neighbour against neighbour, family against family, friends against friends, especially when there is the added incentive of becoming a target as well, or other punishments for not participating. For many even without threats, intimidation and threats to their lives are perfectly willing to turn and commit evil on others with very little provocation or prompting.

We for our part have to keep our wits about us, and not give into a victim mentally. We have to continue to find ways out, work arounds, and we have to continue to fight for each moment of our dignity. Don’t give your will’s over to this, rage against the dying of the light.

Many ask why the young woman in this situation did not just walk out of the office, why she even stripped down in the first place? I know she has said that she was always taught to obey authority, but who’s authority and where do you draw the line?

What I do know is if you let that line get crossed, that foot in the door, it’s easier and easier for these people to try to victimize you further. You have to really haul ass to get yourself out of the pit that they would so happily see you in.

I do know that once this line got crossed, she stopped asking questions, and didn’t feel she could fight back or just walk out of the office. I think this can be true in real life as well.

I know most of use would like to believe that if in the situation, we would never be the victim, or the victimizer, however until in the situation we don’t always know how we will respond. What we can do however is mentally prepare ourselves as best we can and continually pray for the best.

I think this story really gave a more realistic look at what we are truly dealing with in much of society. It’s a sad reality and it put a lot of things into perspective for me in regards to being a Targeted Individual and the people and types of conformity and control that we are up against.

DaveinDublin from Youtube.

I was on youtube the other day. I was trying to see if I could find other people who might be getting targeted without knowing it.

Anyways I came across this guy who says that he is being tracked, or thinks that he is being tracked. DaveinDublin. That’s ofcourse not what makes me think that he is a target. However after watching all 5 of his videos I begin to suspect that he might well be a target. The clues individually are not conclusive, but collectively they make a pretty good case.

The first video he talks about the fact that he thinks he is being blacklisted.
Blacklisted

http://youtube.com/watch?v=W606RT0Zv28

He says he worked for a bank. That set off bells. About 4 or 5 of us worked for a bank. He talks about getting bullied. He also talks about the fact that this Team Leader worked hard to get make him unhappy there and finally got rid of him, and several others.

He says that since he left the bank he can’t find a job cause they are giving him a bad reference. This reminds me of Mark and his experience with the bank.

Anyways David was there for a year, and then the contract was not renewed. Since then it’s been an interesting pattern I think you will see in the other videos.
The next video he talks about the fact that he thinks he might be tracked.

Being Followed/Tracked

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ebq5rIKmXys

In the same video he also talks about his cell phone coming on by itself. Could be nothing, he found it odd, I think it could be someone checking up on the location of his phone. Remember that these phone companies can remotly download software onto your cellphone even if it’s off and the microphone on your cellphone can be used to listen to the conversations in the room.

He also had to stop using the cell due to crank or wrong number calls every 20 mins.

Now he says there was one van following him. I would not associate Gang Stalking with just one Van, but the other videos are telling.
Ruined Relationship

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pMGHL91ZwdI

The next video he talks about a ruined relationship. He talks about this bully at work, who systematically targeted a bunch of them, including him, until she got rid of them all. He says this same person deliberately ruined his friendship with his best friend of several years.

I think it fits the pattern and would fit a future pattern that he might also start to see.
More Blacklisting, and Disruption

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pHT2EL0cxxY

In the next video he talks about going for a job and being told he can’t get the job because he is Irish. He is in Dublin Ireland. Maybe it’s nothing, but it could also be that the system is trying to keep him down and prevent him from getting a job.
Finally in this video he has to get welfare to survive. He talks about his experience with the office and getting set up on the dole. It sounds like more run around. His frustration is just one more thing that makes me think that he might be a target.

The Game show.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=VjCL18zua1I

His dad magically won this ticket to go on a game show and decided to take David along. Not a big deal, what caught my eye and memory is what other targets have said about the media being used, and him being shown on the game show, and subsequently around Dublin.

After this we never see him online again. So I don’t know what happened. If he is a target what is his status? Is he still trying to figure it out? Is he institutionalised, driven to suicide, jobless still, in jail, or converted to being a Snitch?

Again I don’t know, cause I don’t know for sure if he is a target, but the five videos lead me to believe that more investigation is needed. Is there anyone out there who can help locate DaveinDublin?

http://youtube.com/profile_subscribers?user=DaveinDublin

Oh on a side note, I notice that there was always this one person posting comments on most of his videos, that persons account is closed now, and also 4 others that had subscribed to him. Might mean nothing, but I know targets are always assigned people to watch us and interact with us online. Might be nothing, but I found it interesting.

Living single and loving it.

This article came out about a month ago, but it’s a great article about being single. I think the difference between being single and happy and being single and miserable is all about choice. If you choose to be single, then it’s one thing, but if you don’t then it can be a living misery. Also if you choose not to be single for the wrong reasons it can also be a huge misery. I think in this as with anything you have to find out what works for you. Also remember that at different stages in your life, what worked yesterday, might not work tomorrow.

http://www.alternet.org/sex/77095/?page=1

[quote]I’m fifty-four years old and I have always been single. I love my single life. But for a long time I rarely said that out loud. I thought I was the only happy single person.[/quote]

NO there seem to be a lot more happily single people in the world. I think it’s only the perception that has thrown others off. Being single can be a good thing if that is where you are at.

[quote]Years later after I had read hundreds of scientific studies about marital status, happiness, and discrimination, and after I conducted my own program of research, I realized that much of the conventional wisdom about people who are single was either grossly exaggerated or just plain wrong. The place of singles in society and the significance of getting married have changed dramatically over the past decades. But our views of single and married people have not yet caught up.[/quote]

The perception is if you are single, male or female that you can’t be perfectly happy, and the reality is, with modern day society you can be. More so infact than some of your married counter parts. Now I am not knocking marriage or being not single, but I am just pointing out that there are an increasing amount of happy single people out there.

[quote] In one set of studies, for instance, we created profiles of married and single people that were exactly the same (in terms of the person’s age, hometown, interests, employment, and so forth) except for their marital status. In one experiment after another, we found that the single people were viewed more negatively than the married people. For example, they were seen as unhappy, lonely, and self-centered compared to their married counterparts. (The one exception is that single people were consistently viewed as more independent than married people.)[/quote]

Again a lot of this goes back to perception and what has always been in the past conventional wisdom, or rather what seemed to be conventional wisdom. In the past for many reasons you needed to be married to keep the household running, to have children, and ofcourse to be seen as anyone in the community.

[quote]We looked up federal statutes and found more than a thousand instances in which official marriage was linked to federal protections and benefits. We found discrimination against singles in the workplace and the marketplace. We then did research of our own on discrimination and found that realtors (and other people we asked) would prefer to rent to married couples than to single women, single men, unmarried couples, or a pair of friends — even when they all had equally positive references and ability to pay.[/quote]

Again the biggest obstacles that single individual seem to have is society itself and their negative mindset. Once they get past this, many single people do lead very happy and fulfilling lives.

[quote]The story that was taking shape in my mind was becoming clear. Single people are not as happy as married people in part because they are targets of stereotyping and discrimination.[/quote]

This is so true. The article goes on from there and I recommend reading it if you are choosing to be single and loving it. I think in modern day society people have more choices than they did in the past. I think if living single is your choice, then don’t let anyone make you think that you would be happy or better off not living single. You can live single and be happy, if it’s a choice.

[quote]Increasingly, people who are single are living their lives fully. Those who have the resources to do so are buying homes, traveling the world, and pursuing their passions. Their lives are meaningful — and yes, they are happy.

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Again it all comes down to what works best for you. An interesting article I thought I would share.