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I was very saddened to hear about the demise of bullyonline. I also find it a little strange. That website was, as you say, a great resource for info on harrassment. It represents hours of work by a man who, sadly, is no longer with us. Now I don’t know how much, in terms of money, in cost to keep a website like that going but surely someone who was close to Tim Field could have kept it going in honour of his memory? As you have mentioned before, loads of these good websites and information sources on the web are gradually disappearing. Is this just the transient nature of the web or is it something more sinister? I have written to you before explaining how my blog never comes up in blog searches. I wonder how many others are in that situation. I think it will be interesting over the next 10 years or so to see how far it all goes. Will we reach a point where just about everyone is either a target or if they’re not they are “in” on the targetting of another and when they realise it has all gone too far they cannot do anything about it because it is too late.
Comment by Bert Stewart | February 19, 2008 |
To be honest with you, I think the reason many of us had not heard of Cointelpro is the same reason sites like Tim’s go offline. Tim was amazing with what he did for bullying and really researching and bringing the problem to light. (People who do things like that, always seem to die from cancers and other things like heart attacks early.) Anyways. I know his son was taking over last year, but I assumed someone from the foundation would take over in the long run? I still have not had time to find out.
That site was one of the most valuable resources around. I really hope there is some way it get’s back up, there was just too much information that should not be lost there.
I think the other problem is people are happy to let others do the work, while most sit back and enjoy the fruits of it. I don’t know what his widow and son were doing for financial support, since Tim was self employed and I think his son was in his mid to late teens.
I think it’s something more sinister. Articles have the same unique way of disappearing as well. I can’t tell you how many articles I linked to for Gang Stalking, that have now disappeared.
I don’t think we will have this freedom of the internet thaat we have now, and this is still controlled more than you know, as time goes it will only get worst. Eg. France if I recall correctly came up with some declaration to only let journalist post violent pictures. Don’t know if that’s still in effect, but someday you could require a license to blog, who knows. Then if you write something contraversial, they would just clip your license.
From what I have seen in the city where I live, from going on the trains, working at jobs over the last year and a half, going into stores, my friends and associates, most people are already part of these Civilian Informant things. This is just how the society is. Also being a Snitch does not stop someone from getting targeted if they are precieved to have stepped out of line.
It’s alls creepy stuff. I do think it’s interesting the link between workplace mobbing and gang stalking, and it seems that the people that might be getting primarily targeted are the ones that are not part of these snitching groups or whatever the Civilian Spies want to be called.
The other interesting thing that I discovered is that this is happened to more people in society that anyone things. From places I have been things I have seen, this is not that unknown, not the way we like to thing, it’s just unlike the online targets, the offline people don’t really talk about this stuff, yet I still managed to find out that more people are being targeted this way than anyone talks about. This is not that much an annomoly, not the way we like to think it is.
The world has seen times like these before, in WWII, they use to do things like the Gaslighting stuff to people they thought were light on Communisum, a lot of the same stuff went down as well. This stuff is just not normally discussed in the open, and that is what needs to change. I don’t think we will stop it from happening, but if we can get it more normalised, I will be very impressed.
If you look at soaps, movies, books, etc, this stuff is discussed in subtle ways, because it’s not normally discussed any other way.
Comment by gangstalking | February 19, 2008 |
I am worried that the ever-rising secret police forces of today are learning from the mistakes the police forces of fascit regimes of the past have made. And not in a good way. The Stasi of East Germany did not exist before the digital revolution and so their documents were all actual physical files — pieces of paper with writing on them and photographs and videotapes — stored in a building somewhere. Even though they were shredded and ripped up, they have still been somewhat recoverable and targets were given access to the files recovered afterward, and they were exposed. And COINTELPRO had hard documents which were exposed as well.
It could be that the files on gang-stalking targets of today are in places where they can be readily destroyed if they are in danger of being discovered and exposed, or on hard drives that can be readily deleted. If not, I hope that someone follows in the footsteps of those brave people who broke into the FBI office in the 70s and exposed COINTELPRO.
Comment by Kevin | February 20, 2008 |
I left a comment last night but it is not here anymore.
I am worried that the growing secret police forces of today and tomorrow have learned from those of the past such as the Stasi in East Germany and COINTELPRO in the US, who have each stored their files on their own targets, paper and photographs and such in a building somewhere, where they were recovered and exposed. The files on targetted individuals today may be stored in digital form, ready to be deleted if they risk exposure. I don’t know for sure, but I fear TIs plight may not be uncovered in the future.
Comment by Kevin | February 20, 2008 |
Hi Kevin,
I just wish I knew who was getting who put on lists. My assumption is that the final approval for the go ahead and stalk and monitor this person has to come from someone with authority, so what is the process? How is this being determined?
I mean I have heard of ex church members getting stalked and having their lives ruined this way, ex employees, activists, dissidents, whistle-blowers, former students, ex wives, etc.
So who has the authority to say that it’s ok, or does someone just say we think this person is acting strangs, a danger, maybe a drug dealer, whatever lie they want, but who then get’s to give the go ahead and how? Or do they just hand in their suspicions and immediatly use the snitches around the target to start setting them up?
What I am looking into next is to try to understand the process behind this madness, because I bet it’s more ordered than we realise. I mean this is a system of ocntrol designed to keep people in line, I am hoping to find a little bit of rhyme and maybe a lot of false reasoning, but something, however I might not be able to.
In the movie the lives of others, the guy is put under suspicion, not for anything he does, but because some guy in a powerful position wants his girlfriend, and that is why he is set up for the monitoring.
So what if you have a great family, new car, and make the wrong snitch jeolous, who just happens to know someone in power who owes them a favor? These are the variables of the equasion that I do not have, but if this is how it worked in Stasi Germany, and Russia, then it’s probably the same here, and in that case, I will not really find a rhyme or reason the way I wanted.
If it’s working the way that society did, which I suspect that it is, you could state the wrong opinion about 9/11 around the wrong people, and then that could be a problem. (Again that is just a guess, don’t really know what it would work that way, but that’s just something that comes to mind.)
I would also like to get this exposed. I know what you are saying about things being digital, but I would still like to think these people in some tiny ways would want to be arrogent enough to keep some proof of their work and their succes. How many they drove to suicide, or how many they made flip out and harm others. I hope someday we can have an accounting and a reconning, but something tells me, maybe not.
The best bet we have of exposing this stuff, is by doing it ourselves. Don’t count on anyone else to do it for you.
Comment by gangstalking | February 21, 2008 |
Hi Kevin,
The comment was there, it just takes me time to go over the comments, and I don’t always get online everyday, but I try to.
The System of control has learnt from human history, and as usual we have not.
The awareness offline, is disgraceful. People are happy with the pap they are being feed, and they don’t want to know the truth in many cases, because it will make life difficult for them, or it will mean facing a haraser reality, in either case, unless they are forced to, many will not face up to what is happening.
I am not sure how enlighted I would be if this had not been happening. I do know the type of person I was, would have wanted to know, I do know that others would not have wanted to know.
Comment by gangstalking | February 21, 2008 |
I AM TRULY GLAD THAT PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO TALK ABOUT THE STASI STYLED POLICE WE HAVE IN CANADA. IT IS A SNITCH SOCIETY WE LIVE IN TODAY. IF THE FACTS ARE TRUE OR NOT THEY CAN BUG YOUR HOME, YOUR CAR, YOUR PHONE. I AM NOT A PARANOID NUT BUT I SWEAR IT IS GETTING WORSE ALL THE TIME. YOU CAN,T HAVE A CONVERSATION IN A ZELLERS PARKING LOT WITH OUT SOMEONE TAPEING YOUR CONVERSATION. GOD FORBID YOU KNOW SOMEONE WHO,S BEEN IN TROUBLE. THE STASI SERPICOS OF CANADA WILL FOLLOW YOU TO THE DAM GROCERY STORE TO SEE WHAT YOU BUY.I KNOW HOW YOU FOLKS FEEL FOR THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF. I,VE BEEN GETTING FOLLOWEED WHEN EVER I LEAVE MY HOME. I NEVER ASKED FOR THIS IN MY LIFE BUT I KNOW DAM WELL IT,S HAPPENING.THIS IS HOW IT MUST OF BEEN IN GERMANY IN THE THIRTYS. GOD HELP US BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO DO NOT LEARN FROM HISTORY ARE DAMMED TO REPEAT IT.IT IS NICE TO KNOW THAT AT LEAST A FEW PEOPLE ARE WAKEING UP, AND SEEING THE STASI POLICE FOR WHAT THEY REALLY ARE. WE LIVE IN SCARY TIMES. THE BIG BEAVER REALLY IS WATCHING US. UNREAL. GOOD LUCK WITH THE STASI SERPICOS, BECAUSE THEY ARE SCARY
Comment by DAWN MARTIN | April 2, 2008 |
I been a victim araund 3 year now, i find went many times i pick up my wife, a black honda prelude follow us many times and then , now are many cars , i tooked pictures and i filmed too, day by day, and some of them they are repeted, i know that some police they have someting to do , i gat this plate number EVD grey car undercover manytimes stalking me . i went to complain to surrey RCMP , and the resulst are they accusing me that i have mental illnes . is no afffair . we need to stop the crime. and show those busters to respect the human rigths.
Comment by Roberto escobar | May 14, 2008 |
Hi Dawn Martin,
I know how you feel, let’s hope that people really are waking up.
Hi Roberto,
I am sorry to hear what you and your wife are going through, video taping exposure and awareness are our best weapons, this happened in the former East Germany as well. The RCMP are probably well aware and in league with these happenings, but you can try it anyways.
Just keep fighting, they are saying lot’s of people are crazy when they are not.
Comment by gangstalking | June 1, 2008 |
Last year (- before I found out that I was target, but did know I had experienced years of bullying in the workplace) I happened to cut-and-paste most of the contents from bullyonline! I’m so glad I have all the information still saved to a document on my harddrive. If anyone is in need of this information just give me a buzz. (If bullyonline was taken off the web for sinister reasons – well haha! I have the info that perps don’t want targets to have. Eat your heart out!) God bless.
Comment by proudchristiangirl | June 30, 2008 |
Last year I happened to cut-and-paste a lot of info from the bullyonline website (- before I found out I am a target, but had experienced years of bullying in the workplace, going from one temp job to the next). I have all the info still saved to a doc on my HDD. If bullyonline was taken off the web for sinister reasons – well ha-ha! I have info that gangstalkers don’t want targets to know. Eat your heart out!) God bless.
Comment by proudchristiangirl | June 30, 2008 |
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The government and police tolerate gang stalkers poisoning people.
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The USA has become a fascist state.
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Comment by poisoned_in_the_usa | October 9, 2008 |