MJ makes sainthood
What a crock. Not that Michael Jackson made sainthood, but the fact that the world is as hypocritical as you can get. I think it’s finally gotten to me, on an elemental level.
I just can’t take the world that seriously anymore. One person on one of these forums was saying how hypocritical it all was. I think they said something along the line of Jesus when he want into Jerusalem, he had people spreading palm leaves and worshiping him, and many of those same people a few days later were crucifying him, or standing there while he was crucified.
The person on that forum, went on to say that a few days before his death, many people did not want to touch Micheal Jackson with a 10 foot pole. They were still making jokes about him being a pedophile, and most would not even give him the time of day, and suddenly he dies and it’s all different.
Well not to worry, right after dying it was sort of the same for Jesus. I was learning about some of the stuff that Michael had gone through. Do you know that he felt that there was a conspiracy against him? I read that he paid to have a voodoo witch doctor curse some people. It’s hard for me to believe that someone of his caliber could be so demonized by this world, but he was, and the chances are good that he was not guilty.
Don’t get me wrong, some really did believe that he had harmed children. I had always left that at undecided, but I felt that he had not. However I always gave him the benefit of the doubt. I did think however it was a good idea that he stopped hanging around kids that were not his, not because he was not a good person, but because when you are good, it’s easy for the world to take advantage.
His situation, and what a I found out, really solidified some things for me. Not that I don’t see what the world is capable of on a daily basis, but knowing what the world could and did do to someone like him, kinda really put’s things in perspective for me.
The world is a funny place, I think I will leave it at that. They demoralize and crucify that which is not there’s. They don’t understand someone with a child like mentally, and because most of the world is corrupted, they assume that everyone else must be the same thing. I have not found anything that would lead me to believe that he was a pedophile. Most of what I read was rumours, gossip, people taking events that happened on the surface and not looking at the bigger story, the articles that I read about his accusers lead me to believe that it was not true, and extortion played a great role in the first case, and and the secondary case was also someone trying to extort money.
MJ was as big as you could get in this world, well close enough, and yet the world was able to leave him, in poverty at times, hopeless, depressed, and just broken. I am not going to pretend to be a huge Michael Jackson fan. I liked his music, I thought he was a great artist, but that’s about it. What made me go looking for truth after his death was a need to know the truth.
For me I feel how I felt before, but more so. I don’t think he was what the world said about him. I am still open to hearing evidence if there is such out there, but for me, what I read leads me to believe very strongly that he might have been set up, and there might have been a conspiracy initially for money, and then other factors took over, or if you read the transcripts, there might have been other factors from the get go, and for once, I just don’t want to know.
What I do know about his life after the accusations, is pretty sad. What I learnt about what the world did to him, on a spiritual, financial and emotional level is more than I needed or wanted to know. For once I think this world has truly been put into perspective for me.
The world vs Jesus. Nicknamed king of the Jews, praised by some, but crucified by many others. Crucified and died, and then worsphipped after death.
Michael Jackson vs the world. MJ also nicknamed king of pop. Crucified and demonized, by the world for a large part of his later life. Now dead, yet worshipped after death.
It’s like the world just can not appreciate the good when it’s given it, it always has to destroy that which is not like it, or that which it does not understand.
The world is a funny, and hypocritical place.
Anyways, I truly hope that Michael can finally rest in peace. I hope his soul has found some kind of better harbour. I hope.
Psy Op
As mentioned before the police sometime use psychics in their investigations.
www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article1866075.ece
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“Some of the information is about precise location or co-ordinates and that allows us to go to the place and we will check it,” he said. “Just a few days ago we got one address near Lagos [about five miles from Praia da Luz] but it didn’t amount to anything.”
Mr Sousa said he did not believe they had heard from Madeleine’s abductor: “If it was a message from the kidnapper, it will offer enough clues to help us to go to the right place.”
He said it was not unusual to investigate the claims of clairvoyants but added it was only one line of investigation.
“In this case the amount of information we have received is huge,” he said. “Any information that comes to us, if there is enough to follow, we will check.”
It is not known if a “vision” was the source of the information which led to Portuguese detectives asking British police to raid a London home where they believed Madeleine might have been kept.
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I have also mentioned that they have used remote viewers when looking for hostages, and other events.
http://www.remoteviewinglight.com/html/buchanan-seventh-sense.html
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Book Description of “The Seventh Sense: The Secrets of Remote Viewing as Told by a Psychic Spy for the U.S. Military”, by Lyn Buchanan:
For the past thirty years, the United States government has secretly trained a select corps of military personnel in the art of “remote viewing” — the psychic ability to perceive the thoughts and experiences of others through the power of the human mind…
Now, for the first time, Lyn Buchanan — a world-renowned expert on remote viewing and its potential — tells the complete, candid story of his experiences. Assigned for nearly a decade to a clandestine U.S. Army intelligence group, Buchanan trained military personnel who utilized their inherent psychic abilities as a data-collection tool during the Iran hostage crisis, the Chernobyl disaster, and the Gulf War.
In this incredible account, Buchanan tells how he was selected for his unique psychic abilities, and how he was transformed from an ordinary soldier into one of our nation’s leading psychic spies. Working on top-secret government and military projects using “mental espionage” created permanent, life-altering changes within Buchanan. Now, after many years of analysis and interpretation, he reveals the techniques and mental exercises used to train remote viewers, and demonstrates that each of us carries a dormant psychic ability that we can explore and use ourselves.
For anyone interested in a hard, scientific look at the reality of psychic covert operations in the world today, or anyone who has ever wondered if he or she could have the inherent skills to become a remote viewer, this fascinating chronicle of life as a psychic spy will reveal the answers.
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There is a lot going on that people are not aware of, or just refuse to accept. I think that’s the idea however. I was the same way, but after doing some research, well I am a believer.
http://www.popsci.com/scitech/article/2009-06/mind-reading-tech-way
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Mind-Reading Tech May Not Be Far Off
At the World Science Festival this week, indications that brain scanners may soon uncover your private thoughts
By Brooke Borel Posted 06.12.2009 at 5:15 pm
Neuroscientists are already able to read some basic thoughts, like whether an individual test subject is looking at a picture of a cat or an image with a specific left or right orientation. They can even read pictures that you’re simply imagining in your mind’s eye. Even leaders in the field are shocked by how far we’ve come in our ability to peer into people’s minds. Will brain scans of the future be able to tell if a person is lying or telling the truth? Suggest whether a consumer wants to buy a car? Reveal our secret likes and dislikes, or our hidden prejudices? While we aren’t there yet, these possibilities have dramatic social, legal and ethical implications.
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These are artificial means of looking into the mind. What I have been researching are people who would have more natual abilities to reach into the mind and read the private thoughts of others. The ultimate way to violate someone, going into their minds and sharing their private dreams, thoughts, hopes, desires with others. The Tom Cruise movie minority report is in many ways not far off.
http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/shortsharpscience/2008/09/precrime-detector-is-showing-p.html
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September 23, 2008 1:28 PM
‘Pre-crime’ detector shows promise
FASTLast year, New Scientist revealed that the US Department of Homeland Security is developing a system designed to detect “hostile thoughts” in people walking through border posts, airports and public places. The DHS says recent tests prove it works.
Project Hostile Intent as it was called aimed to help security staff choose who to pull over for a gently probing interview – or more.
ommentators slated the idea that sensors could spot people up to no good from their pulse rate, breathing, skin temperature, or fleeting facial expressions. One likened it to the “pre-crime” units that predict criminal behaviour in the movie Minority Report.
FAST1.jpgHowever, last week, the DHS science unit gave an update on the project, now dubbed the less-hostile-sounding Future Attribute Screening Technologies (FAST) programme. And, if DHS claims are to be believed, the research appears to be getting somewhere
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What I am also saying is that they are now actively using also using readers. Mind readers in the course of their investigations.
What to look for. People who might not have fit in childhood. People who are emotional spazes, not overtly, but may be prone to outbursts. Many might seem nice or friendly on the inside, but might be emotional, and mental manipulators. They are feeders. Mind reading isn’t just about reading people’s thoughts, it’s violating them and feeding that information back to others.
It’s a psychic violation, but it’s also a bit of a feed. The way some people feed off the energy of others, the readers feed in a similar manner on the thoughts of others. It makes them in many cases feel superior, a secret that others don’t know about, or a secret to be used to win friends, and impress others.
In a psi/psy op, these are some of the roles you might expect to find. They may not always be present, but this is a likely senario. These roles have been observed outside of the workplace and in the targets community as well.
Roles
Conductor- (One who coordinates the actions and the players in the environment. Also known as the controller.)
Observers- (People who observe what is happening and report back.
Mind Readers-(When external observations just are not good enough. These will be used to read and report back the targets thoughts and reactions)
Security-(Someone with a security background, anywhere from Judo lessons, to security, etc.)
The persons who will deliver the harassment or sorry the stimuli in the targets environment, whatever that might be. This might be other co-workers, or players specifically hired for the role.
To help you better understand this I will give you a few scenarios.
Scenario one.
Ash has been directed to play the role of conductor.
The stimuli will be delivered by Razon.
The reader will be Ivanna.
Observer will be Khalisha
The circus performers will likely be a part of the targeted individuals training class if there is a training class in session. The reader will try to make friends with the target, because a link has to be established. The conductor get’s the participants into their roles.
If it’s a situation where there are names on the desk, they manipulate the seating arrangements to suit the situation.
In the above scenario, you would have Razon and others deliver a stimuli, the target would be observed by Khalisha and others, and the conductor ash would tell everyone what to do. The reader Ivanna would have a link to the target, and observer how the target response to the stimulus. So a variety of skits will be run throughout the day, trying to keep the target engaged. While the observers, and the reader watch, record, how the target responds to each stimuli.
The experiment will continue as long as the subject is in the environment. The idea is to find what’s working, and ofcourse to try to eliminate the target, by any means necessary from the workplace environment. Again the main players will if possible try to gain access to the target, and befriend the target, depending on the assigned roles.
They will also see and observe if the target has any hostility towards the participant who is delivering the stimuli.
The target is not to realise that such a game is being played, and thus the target is aware of what is happening, but not the roles being carried out, the observations being made, and recorded. Ofcourse much like the couple that was vindicated by having their neighbour who harassed them by singing the Addams family song daily, a target will also be very aware, even hyper aware if there are skits being run, or if they are being exposed to a stimuli, which they have been negatively sensitised to.
The players around may not be aware of this, but they carry out their assigned roles.
Scenario 2
Shylo might be hired for security due to his judo expertise.
Kevi might be hired for her “special abilities”.
Depending on the environments, players and roles might be added later on. Eg. If it’s a workplace that is doing a lot of hiring, then the players might be hired at once. If it’s not a work environment that is doing a lot of hiring, the additional players might have to be hired after.
Again the players would be hired to observe, befriend, find out information on, and watch and listen what happens in the environment. Readers appear to be harmless on the outside, giving off an air of friendliness, but the environments that create such natural abilities, in many cases will show people who were always just on the outside, who needed to develop the special skill to find out what people were thinking to fit in better. It’s a manipulative, and deceitful role if it is being done for nefarious purposes. It’s also a parasitic and feeding role. Host and parasite. The host often unaware that their very private thoughts, wishes, hopes, dreams are being violated in such a manner.
Again the reader depending on the range, will be in a sitting position as close to the target as needed. Security will also be nearby, should the target flip out. We know how wrong these little psi/psy ops can go. Just like with the first scenario, if a participant has not been hired to deliver the stimuli, then participants in the environment will be told and directed what to do, and will be asked to observer the reaction of the subject.
The reader will be doing the same, but on a very different level. The drama, I mean psi/psy ops begins. It will again keep going with different dramas and skits being introduced into the environment, until the target wigs out, or a reason is found to get rid of the target. If no reason is found, more might be introduced into the environment. The idea is to get the target upset, to quit, to get fired, to have a bad reaction, something to frame the target, to get rid of the target, even if that is not what the players have been overtly told they are doing that is the goal.
Scenario three.
Alexia-The conductor
Sam- Will delver the stimuli
Ronette- Will be security
You have the observers
Fawn- will be the reader
The target will again be placed strategically around the players with the conductor being in a position to direct the person delivering the stimuli. Plus able to co-ordinate the other. The observers will be placed close enough to observe what is happening.
Once again the co-workers will be directed to carry out skits, the players will observe the reaction of the target. The reader depending on range will be asked to be near the target. Security in a similar strategic position. The person who is to deliver the stimuli is usually directly behind the target, across from, or directly in front of the target situation and seating allowed.
Again the target is not to be aware that this is the scenario, or that these skits are deliberately being carried out. The co-workers are told what to do, again often not realising that they are pawns in a pretty unkind psi/psy op. They carry out a stimuli, and then observe the target reaction.
Some workplace environments will foster false reports more than others, these people in many cases will feed the hysteria that is not there, and see things that re not there, based on what they have been told, and is that not just human nature? Remember they are independent agents and they report what they see fit.
I recently reported a story about a guy who back in school we had been told was a pervert in one of my classes when I was back in school. Because of what we had been told, people were always seeing things that were not really there, comments would be taken out of context, and many of the girls thereafter were uncomfortable around him, because of what I now believe was a blatant lie. His life was made hell because of it, but no one believed they were doing anything wrong at the time. He was made out to be an unclean person, and other things, again always the same sources feeding the hate, but we never as a group saw it that way. Now years later on the other side of the fence, I get what was being done, and the behind the scenes that were being manipulated.
So targets it’s again very possible that these hateful co-workers, neighbours, etc, are also being manipulated in a similar manner, and because HR or managers, and others in authority are directing them about what to do, say, act, ect, they will go along with it in many cases without question.
So anyways in scenario three, the same actions would be carried out. The target will be strategically placed near the reader, they will be placed in front of, behind, or beside, the person to carry out the stimuli, security will be nearby, and the observers will be all over, ready and waiting for the testimonies to begin. Because such an environment is more then likely to create paranoia amongst people that might not be that bright to begin with, and the games (psi/psy op) are allowed to continue consistently, the fishing expedition is often likely to eventually find something to go fishing with, be it real or imagined.
One thing you can do, is if you are aware of these skits in your life, you might try to find ways of cluing in others, or better yet, see if you or someone around you can take note of what is happening. The more aware people are of what is happening, the better chance they stand of fighting it.
Just being aware that these people are being used might help gain an advantage for many in similar situations.
*Again blatent generalizations should not be used. There are going to be many people who develop these abilities who are not manipulators, or parasitic, it’s just people being used by governments, tend to fall into those categories and roles.
A baiting we will go.
As a target I get to see the business end of things, and it does not make me hopeful for humans, but it’s a good study none the less.
I see how truly controlled people are, more importantly I see a system where many do not even question that control. I see people getting used all the time. From the co-workers who now babysit my route to and from work.
What the informant force has been doing is they have been using positive identifications. This means they are now trying to have someone who I have had contact with before positively identify me, so I now constantly run into people at every location that I know. I think in many regards this method works better than others, because at least you can say yes the target was on the train, etc vs what I have personally witness which is them not know who is who vs what is what. I also recently saw a informant that was on the same bus, get followed. The informant gave the signals, but since the target was not readily visible, they just ignored the informant, and followed the informant off the bus. Still it’s an improvement, but not one that I will be going along with.
I believe if they had used this method in the first place there would have been way less erroneous reports, however after years of the garbage, I have no intention of assisting with this venture. I keep finding fun ways around it.
This is one more reason that it’s easy to associate with informants, but it’s hard to form any real associations, because in an informant society motive must always be questioned. I get them all the time fishing for details of a personal nature. Yes normal people do this, but when you are aware of a secondary purpose in mind, then it’s impossible to take them seriously.
What I do now is report any incidents so that I can get my own words in, I find that this is more balanced, since informants can not in many cases be trusted to tell the truth.
In Stasi Germany, it was friends, family, lovers, co-workers, neighbours that betrayed people.
Today I had an informant wheel over me quite deliberately. I firmly but politely advised and requested that the informant be more careful in future. Even though it was fully done deliberately, you want to be careful of accusing them, as they are very found of accusing targets of being paranoid. It’s part of the baiting process.
I truly believe that many of these people don’t care about the children in their care, they often use them for a variety of purposes. Similar to the way they use their dogs. Part of the dog and pony show.
I think children have more value than that, but very little surprises me now. Two examples.
The pot shots that we have to put up with. Now the odd time the informants are instructed to get up close and personal and to try to cause the target problems.
Today I had an informant use it’s own child to cause trouble. I really find that some these people have no integrity whatsoever. I don’t believe that they care about their children. Just like the way they get puppies, and dogs, I do think that some have children just to make it easier for them to be a part of this system.
I have now had numerous occasions where an informant was so busy watching me, that they literally endangered their children. It really makes me sad, but I am not surprised.
I remember the one time that a young mother was with her friend, and her children were with her, she was so busy watching me, that she missed the fact that her child was climbing on an object, and was about to get impaled. I drew her attention to this fact, and she seemed to muster up some motherly instinct and was able to go and retrieve her child. She could pay attention to what I was doing, but not to the immediate danger her child had placed herself in. Priorities are frightening.
Many of them take the informant game so seriously that they forget anything else. Another time I had one woman send her young son off to sit by himself at the back of the bus, while she stayed at the doors in the middle to watch me, her back was turned so she could not see the child, and could not have been aware of what was happening.
Anything could have been happening to the child, there are strangers who are not above physically reaching out and grabbing a child on a public bus, yet here she was so intense on me, that her child could have been in danger. I was seriously wondering if I got off the bus there and then if she would follow me, or take the time to remember that she has a child, but then they do what they are told, so provided that she was not instructed to do so, I assume she would have stayed on the bus. The loyalty was once again to the state.
Both of the women in the above scenarios were Asian decent, but I do not know if they were from outside of the country. I am pointing this out, because I do know that these types of systems have been very popular in communist countries and that it’s like second nature to some people. The point is, I don’t think that many of them have their priorities in tack, and they use their children in many cases, in very wrong ways.
Other targets have reported skits where children are paraded around in inappropriate outfits. Eg. Female children are placed in inappropriate situations, or outfits, in order to help make someone look like a pedophile. Other have reported where children are being left or paraded as bait by these people. It’s disgusting.
Today was one of those days where the less snitches the better. That’s a rule everyday. However after this informant wheeled over me, with her child, I really thought about the other stories of the things they do, and how they use their children and I was so disgusted by some of the things I have heard that they have done. Anyways once home, I let all my disgust out. My rule of thumb is if you want to vent in your own home, and others wish to listen, too bad.
The thing is lately I realise that the less I have to do with them, the better I feel. I have really been feeling very happy lately, and I think that is because I am getting a lot of negatives out of my life and it feels really good.
Are informants stupid?
what I have learnt from the extremist sites.
Try your best not to generalize. What get’s me most when I am on the extremist sites is that there is a lot of generalization. These sites tend to generalize groups of people and that is just not the thing to do.
I can however see that if you have too many negative experiences with too many people of a specific group that you might tend to have a general negative attitude towards that group.
I find that I tend to do this with the informants. I really try to avoid this when I can. Though a majority of them are parasitic bottom feeders, there are some, the odd few that are not stupid, that are helpful, that have retained their humanity, that are not going along with this stupidty, and who are equally looking for a way out. I am not including those people in this posting. Everyone is different.
Many of them are just what they seem to be. Just like in East Germany where they baited the Jews, or the south where they baited the blacks, many of them are the same things. They are not happy or fulfilled unless they are getting targets to notice them, or doing something to be in conflict with targets.
I still believe the primary thing to do in most cases is to ignore them. Lately I am honestly more interested in the flowers, the trees, the dirt under my feet, etc, more so than I am interested in them. I am happier, I think I finally came to the realization, that it’s just not worth it.
For me personally, there is little or no merit with interacting with the majority of people that have chosen to be a part of a system that is corrupt. The vast majority of these people are at the heart of what is driving this system. If it was not working for them, they would change it. However I believe that this system does work for the vast majority of them.
I believe many people unfortunately are base at heart, and this attracts the worst sort of people, and the worst sort of vermin. It’s a sad truth. Most people probable feel they are part of something wonderful, if you will recall, the Stasi were the same, and the Nazi were the same.
What is the difference between these people and the Nazi? The world eventually recognized the Nazi’s for what they were, I believe it will be a bit longer before these people are recognised as the same thing. Right now I believe the vast majority, are still in the we are right stage.
For me personally limiting my interaction with the vast majority works. In my years of mobbing, Gang Stalking, Cointelpro, I have not found that it’s often in my best interest to interact with them. I generally avoid the vast majority of them when I can. They generally do not seem to understand this. I don’t want anything to do with the vast majority of them, they are not my type of people, we have nothing in common, and it’s not in my best interest to interact with them. It’s nothing personal.
There are many informants that I like, that I still like interacting with. They are just very few and far between. No I don’t believe that they are all stupid, but much like the rest of the society, the system that they subscribe to is corrupt, and thus they are corrupt by being a part of it. Willingly or unwillingly.
I am going to try to give some examples of this.
I once worked with a girl let’s call her J. J was being harassed very badly by Steven a manager at one of the jobs where we worked. She use to come to me and complain about what he was doing. In my opinion he was very badly harassing and bullying her. She was a shy reserved creature and unfortunately drew Steven’s harassment.
Even though I was being mobbed, I helped to shield her the best way that I could. I even gave her the information that she needed to get away from him. At the time he was her manager. She did not want to go to HR, because everyone knew that going to HR only made things worst. (I still tried to work through the HR process, but I agree that the majority of times when a manager is involved, HR does not help and is not helpful.)
She was stressed everyday and worried constantly, she just wanted to get off of his team. I found a way that she could do so without having to go to HR, it worked and eventually she got off his team.
During this time, we had become quite friendly, because I felt protective of her. Anyways one day she stopped talking to me, and became very unfriendly, not just unfriendly, but rude, and she also got several of her people, from her culture to be rude as well. I could not understand what was wrong with this girl. I eventually found out that I had wished her good health in German, and English not being her first language, she had misunderstood what I had said, and thought that I had insulted her.
A simple error, which could have been fixed, by asking me what I had said, or to explain it. No. So in essence, what she had done was advised people that I had reacted in a negative manner to her “stimuli” and insulted her. I would never have guessed at this, because it was just not the case.
Do I believe that she misunderstood what was said, yes. Do I believe she did so intentionally? NO in this case I do not. However it does not change the fact that because of the stupidity of this informant system, and the stupidity of human nature she saw what was not there. The problem is that if you tell people that someone is XYz they will not only see XYZ in many cases, but they will also add ABC.
Another example of this system at work. When I was at school we had what I now recognize to be informants. They were always signalling, I do recall this, but I had no idea why at the time. Anyways this person and her friends came and told a group of us, that this male in our class had been self pleasuring himself in class. Her two male friends confirmed this information, by agreeing with her. Thus the group without questioning them, accepted there story. She said he was a pervert and a variety of other things.
Naturally people were disgusted and did not wish to be around this person. We believed them. He was avoided after this by the class, because of what this girl had said. He missed a lot of school and eventually did not come back the next term.
In the middle of this, I could not keep up ignoring him. No matter what his so called crime, he had not killed anyone, but none the less he was treated as a leaper, and though I did not see it at the time. I believe this is what was ongoing in his life. I also believe that what the class was told was a lie, by this group of informants. He was an ethnic minority, and I do believe the goal was to get him to drop out of the class.
Because of what this girl told the others, many of the other girls in the class avoided him, the guys would not befriend him, but I eventually gave him notes, and stopped avoiding him. This interestingly enough made me enemies with the person who had started the rumours. I had been a thorn in the side of what was probably a Gang Stalking attempt in his life, but for me it was just being nice to another human being, that in my opinion there was no reason to be cruel to, and certainly not for such an extended period of time, or to the lengths that they were going to.
Did I realise that I was doing anything wrong, or being manipulated? No I did not, but I understood how to be human, and something within told me that what was ongoing was wrong. Some of the informants in this system will have that capacity, the vast majority will not. Even if they have the impulse that something is wrong, many do not have the independence to stop what is happening, or confront it.
For me a lot of things are trial and error. After years of dealing with them, for me personally, I don’t want anything to do with the vast majority of them. The interactions do not enhance my life most times, I have watched the vast majority, and they like this system, it works for them. They like the snitching friends network, and many of them would be lost without it. It’s their source of information, let’s them know what’s happening, and they feed off of it.
They feed off of having confrontations with targets the same way the Nazi’s feed off of having confrontations with Jews, and congratulated themselves about it. It’s the same things, they are the same level of baseness. The KKK did the same thing with blacks. Piss them off, get them to react, it’s the same thing.
Where the last two groups were seen in a negative light, the members of this cult of informants, see themselves, and their actions in a very positive light. A vast majority of them, act in the same mindless fashion, one right after the other.
For me after years of being around them. My recommendation is to ignore them. The vast majority of times, they are not worth it. They want someone they can play games with that will respond to them. The “look at me, look at me, I am something special.” The vast majority of times, I literally do not pay attention to them, anymore. If like the Nazi’s or the KKK, they interact with me in such a way that they cross the line, I let them know it. Because if you let them cross the line a little, they will cross the line a lot. They must be kept in their place. This is what they try to do with us, and we must do the same with them.
Again, I do not mean to generalise. I hate that, and I try to avoid it when I can. They are not all like that, but too many are. The contempt has been earned.
This system is not sophisticated, many of them do not understand why targets don’t want anything to do with them. Targets see the world in a very different way. I am often grateful for this experience, because it really is something I could only have learnt by experiencing. My whole life, I wondered how Nazi Germany happened, how did normal people go along with it? There was no reference source that had the material that I needed. Only the human experience could have given me what I needed.
As such I have been blessed, to understand how base human nature can get, how deprived, how people that start out decent can become corrupt. How a system of corruption can be made to function. I do believe such systems will eventually do themselves in, but in the meantime, it’s an amazing study. I would choose no other side to be on.
I might dislike stupid people around me at times, but it’s a great learning experience, how they function, operate, the types involved. You could not pay for such, I know most targets will not agree with me, but when we can let go of the targeting aspect, and just look at the social psychological aspect, they are an interesting study.
Anyways I had one actually try to cross the line today, and it had to be confront and politely advised, to not cross the line. Much like the Nazi, they seemed delighted, oh my gosh, nothing else has been working, no other stimuli, we finally have something. Yes sadly I am their world, but they are not my world. Even a very broken and corrupt clock can get the time right at least twice a day. The same with this broken and corrupt system.
I hate the targeting, but when I think about what these people have become, I will take this side of the coin. I don’t like it, it’s not always my favorite, but I thank God everyday, that I am on this side of the coin. I believe we spiritually choose things, and I do believe on some level, I choose this side of the coin, and this path, because I would not want to be on the other side of the coin.
I have no desire most times or care, what the snitching network is up to, I care not for their stupid system, which is corrupted, and being a parasite who’s only job is to spy on others, or bait them, like the Nazi’s did the Jews, is just not my cup of tea.
Targets this is not a great place that we are in, I know that most of us hate it on a daily basis, but when I really look at who and what these people are, and the things they do, my life is not that bad. That’s one of the reasons I have been happier lately. We are blessed that we ended up on this side of the coin. No I don’t like the job loss, baiting, stupidity, evil, corruption, petty, amebic parasites that we attract, but can you imagine being one? Most of us can not. So though it take a lot of efforts, realise that our glass is still half full, we have retained our humanity, and as long as we do that, we are doing better than the vast majority of them.
As for me, I have been happy, I am going to continue to be so. Avoiding them and ignoring them has worked for me. I finally came to the stage where I do realise the vast majority are just not worth it. Again, I am not generalizing. There is good and bad everywhere. There always will be. Everyday we remember that, and maintain our humanity is a victory. These creature are petty, and irritating a target is all that they have going on in their lives most days, think of the efforts that are expanded for targets? We have life, and they do not, in many cases, they are dead, and empty on the inside, and they often do not like to have that truth mirrored back about themselves, but it’s true in many cases.
I could go on, but targets, be thankful that we are where we are, everyday that I am around them, or encounter more of their stupidity, it leaves me grateful. You don’t want to become what they are. Being a target is not great, but I honestly believe that what the vast majority of them are is something worst.
Keep that in mind, as you go out amongst them, and the best recommendation I can give, is truly to ignore them, they really do just crave the attention, and it’s what they feed off of, they are parasitic in nature. The vast majority, not all. I don’t think I have had to confront one too directly prior to today, and if you must interact with them, be polite, use appropriate language, and leave it short and sweet. Parasites in many cases probably have far more potential, and intelligence than the vast majority of informants in this system. They want you in the dirt with them, try your best not to be there.
There is good and bad everywhere, try to not generalize. So are informants stupid? Sure some are stupid, they always were and always will be. Some are bright and intelligent, but this system does not cater to the bright or the intelligent, most times it caters to the petty, and corrupt. They are always looking for a reason to hate, it’s what fuels them, nothing else does. It’s a system that has not changed since Jesus’ time. It’s a system that will hate one minute and praise the next, it’s a bi-polar system, and the people within that system are equally the same.
I find in a majority of cases, they hate without reason, they act without reason, and they feed off of each other. They do what the other tells them to do, independent thought is not something that this system fosters. Yet good still functions below the mire. Lately I focus on the good. Unfortunately if you look for stupid you will find stupid, even when you don’t look for stupid, you will still find it. I have stopped looking for stupid, petty and corrupt. This however does not mean that stupid, petty and corrupt will not find it’s way into my realm, but limit your changes.
Are they all stupid, no, but enough are where I have doubts if this society will survive. Much like the movie apocalypto, such societies, eat themselves from the inside out, and when the time comes, they destruct from the inside out, I believe these societies are entering such a stage, and it’s sad, because from the outside, they look very good, but as one who has witnessed the corruption, I believe these societies are in a problematic state, and will likely create their own downfall, due to the types of people these types of societies eventually create, which is sad.
http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/political_ponerology_lobaczewski.htm
”Dr. Andrew M. Lobaczewski. Political Ponerology: The science on the Nature of Evil.”
[quote]
Pathocracy is a disease of great social movements followed by entire societies, nations, and empires. In the course of human history, it has affected social, political, and religious movements as well as the accompanying ideologies… and turned them into caricatures of themselves…. This occurred as a result of the … participation of pathological agents in a pathodynamically similar process. That explains why all the pathocracies of the world are, and have been, so similar in their essential properties.
…Identifying these phenomena through history and properly qualifying them according to their true nature and contents – not according to the ideology in question, which succumbed to the process of caricaturization – is a job for historians. […]
The actions of [pathocracy] affect an entire society, starting with the leaders and infiltrating every town, business, and institution. The pathological social structure gradually covers the entire country creating a “new class” within that nation. This privileged class [of pathocrats] feels permanently threatened by the “others”, i.e. by the majority of normal people. Neither do the pathocrats entertain any illusions about their personal fate should there be a return to the system of normal man. [Andrew M. Lobaczewski Political Ponerology: A science on the nature of evil adjusted for political purposes]
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MJ the real
Now that Michael Jackson is gone I still have questions.
The Michael Jackson situation has always bothered me. I was never fully convinced about the pedophile charges.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvhwWDCV9Bo
The second case I saw coming a mile away. After I saw the interview that Micheal did, where a UK journalist followed him around with a camera, after I saw the portion of the interview with a boy in the interview I was concerned, and felt very strongly that a false accusation would come up once again.
When the second accusation came up some time later, and the identity was reveled to be the boy in the interview, I felt that that my prediction had been accurate, and I felt strongly that this accusation as I had predicted and could be false. I feel I had seen it coming a mile away, what’s odd is that Micheal Jackson had not.
Jackson seems to have held on to a very peter pan existence for as long as he could. He seemed to have been very child like. It’s like he really didn’t get how cold, and cruel this world could be.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2009/06/26/2009-06-26_the_stain_of_kidsex_raps_plagued_career_weird_sleepovers_with_boys_huge_payouts_.html
For the second accusation, I strongly believe it was a s false accusation, but what about the first case?
I did not follow it as closely as I could have, and in the following years I have never researched it. The things that had bothered me about the case however are as follow.
He paid out money, why would you pay out money if you are innocent? I thought that innocent people would not do this, but in time, since doing research, I find that this is not always the case. I have now seen Gang Stalking targets admit to being drug users, in order to get their child back from the state.
At the time that this happened, I could not believe that a child would make an accusation like that unless it was true? In time I have now seen groups of people accused by children who were coached be accused of being pedophiles, only to have it come out years later that the children were coached.
I don’t know if this could have been the case here, there was other disturbing details. It has been said that the child knew details of a birth mark that was on Micheal’s lower anatomy. This is worrisome, and again makes me wonder what happened?
I don’t think any adult should be around a child that is not there’s in any capacity that exposes such details, be it going to the bathroom with them in the room or other. The rules might vary with very close relatives, who are also like parental figures, or care givers.
This has always worried me about the case. However Micheal spent years befriending kids like Macaulay Culkin and there was never an accusation, at least not that I am aware of.
I believe he paid off the first case to make it go away, guilty or innocent, he could not handle what was happening, I think the accusation tore at his soul. I do now understand it’s very possible to frame someone to make it seems as if they are a pedophile, some of the men in the Targeted Individual community face this fact.
I believe the trial changed him. I think we saw a lot of the in subsequent years manifest itself in his outward appearance and weirdness.
There is no doubt that he became eccentric. He married Lisa Marie in later years. I have personally always believed it was to help restore his image after the trial. That doesn’t make it a bad thing. Lisa Marie insists that it was a real marriage, but I sort of don’t fully believe that.
His second wife Debbie later in trial, claims that the two children of their union were artificially inseminated, and that there were not his biologically. I sort of believe her, which also means they too most likely did not have normal marital relations.
The baby swinging incident was just bad judgement. What was he thinking? I think the incident just further shows me he shows poor taste, and bad judgement. He was so intense on the fans, that he really made a bad call. It’s something someone much younger with bad judgement might have done, and it did not help his case.
Since his death I have found a lot of good information. You can learn a lot from some of these websites. The articles that I found of interest was one that was going over details of the first trial. I will post the link.
http://www.usnewslink.com/framedjackson.htm
How should he be remembered? In my mind there are so many unanswered questions? Was he really a pedophile, or were the accusations baseless, and was it just people taking advantage of his childlike nature? Was there some truth to the rumour? Was it just groundless?
I think Jackson had a very unreal sense of what the world should be like, vs what it was. He believe that there was nothing wrong with having kids over, and even having them stay over in his room. It could be completely innocent, but if you are a 40 something, unmarried, eccentric, people are going to wonder at the best of times, and at the worst of times they will swallow anything that is thrown at them.
I am going to withhold judgement, because I have never felt that I had all the pieces of the puzzle. I do know that if he really was not a pedophile, we have done him a great injustice. I see the comments, and they are like nails. They are pretty terrible, and if he was not a pervert, then what a horrible way to be remembered, and have your name destroyed, especially if he was innocent.
If he was a pervert in anyway, then he does not deserve the adoration that he is getting. He was talented there is no doubt about that, but talent does not excuse bad behaviour, it did not with Jerry Lee Lewis, and it should not with people like R. Kelly when there is clear evidence for the case.
With Jackson the lines and some of the lies are very blurry. He was weird toward the end, but I think he was childlike, maybe more than we know. I do think that there could be more ongoing than most ever dreamed. I am learning more in the last 48 hrs about rumours, of conspiracy against him, and what he felt was ongoing in this regard, than I have in the last 15 years or so. It’s been interested.
What I do know, I owe it to myself to try to learn the truth, no matter what it is. I now know that this world can make you look, appear or seem to be anything that it wants you to be, for good or for bad. I know that there are some leech like parasites in the world who will take advantage of and feed off, those unsuspecting, childlike types. There are many who will feed off of the innocent, and take the most innocent comment, action, gesture, sentiment, out of context and make it into something that it is not.
Since his death a lot of this has been confirmed, by his ex-wife Lisa Marie, when she talks about some of the constant leeches around him, and how she tried to save him from self destructive behaviour and those around him who did not have his best intentions at heart.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/090626/entertainment/centertainment_us_jackson_lisamarie
[quote]Presley wrote that she and Jackson’s family tried to save him from “the inevitable, which is what just happened” but she became overwhelmed and had to end their relationship.
“I became very ill and emotionally/ spiritually exhausted in my quest to save him from certain self-destructive behavior and from the awful vampires and leeches he would always manage to magnetize around him,” she wrote.[/quote]
Then we are hearing more about the people around him, who might have given him bad advise, and also about the drugs, someone was saying that compared to the Anna Nicole situation, hers was nothing compared to this, and the leeches around him.
http://www.showbizspy.com/article/188369/michael-jackson-died-of-drugs-overdose
[quote]Brian Oxman, the Jackson family attorney, told CNN that the superstar had a very serious problem with prescription medication, and that the people that were surrounding him were enablers. “If you think the case with Anna Nicole Smith was an abuse, it’s nothing in comparison to what we have seen taking place in Michael Jackson’s life.”[/quote]
What a shock. He seems to have had a lot of these types in his life.
http://www.kansascity.com/stargazing/story/1282600.html
So for me, it’s a matter of discovering the truth. I want to know the truth for the three kids that he was raising. If he was not a pervert or a pedophile, then we deserve to know the truth, and if he was, then that needs to be made clear as well. Paying out money does not unequivocally mean that one is guilty. Being weird and eccentric also does not equate guilt.
I would like to know the truth one way or another. If he is innocent, then the world did him a great injustice, and the least we could do is clear his name. If he is guilty then the adoration is misplaced and disgraceful. Truth is sometimes somewhere in the middle.
Anyways for the time being I do wish is soul peace, his kids and family the best, and I wish the world truth, since they are often more willing to swallow lies.
Down with the snitching
I am just sitting here thinking about some past jobs I have had and some encounters that I have had with the snitches.
Again some informants are not low lives, but many others are and since this started I have seen more of the low than I have of the high.
The goal of this stalking is to make targets look like they are crazy, or whatever lie you are trying to spread, or start with one and go to another.
Remember by the time Jiverly Wong died he was a divorced loser, who could not keep a job, who had a drug addiction and had tried to rob a bank. None of that seems to have been true, but it all survived him into his death, and it’s most likely what was being spread about him. On top of that he endured months of workplace mobbing, with slogans like “if it wrong it’s Wong”. Fun stuff.
After his company closed down and he got laid off, he tried to better himself in an English class, so he could get a better job, or find a job. He dropped out of the english class, and the indication is that he also expreienced mobbing there. Most targets do not want to be unemployed, but that is the perception that the agents of the state will try to give, to justify what is happening.
I am a fairly bright, articulate, and intelligent person. Somewhat independent and before this, a pretty high functioning person. I am still a pretty high functioning person, but now I am fighting against stuff most people only have nightmares about.
I am like targets of Cointelpro fighting against a system that will go to any and every extreme to bring me down. With Jiverly Wong I often wonder if Shopvac closed on it’s own via natural means, or if they had a hand in it. I am wondering because many targets talk about the construction projects that pop up all over the city where we are. They go on for years at a time. We are not paranoid in this. They seem capable and willing to go through any means necessary to take targets down. You see this with whistle-blowers and others.
I know others who have experienced, having companies close soon after the target was going to be working there. Or in other cases, if they were trying to work with companies who specialised in products to be delivered the company stopped providing the function.
Anyways at my jobs since I have been a target, the idea is to get me fired from every job, make me look crazy or inefficient. To that end, the informants where I live, they are allowed to use a radar gun, or something that produces large amounts of heat, or other things that cause vibrations in my home, to heat up my skin, to heat up my body, to try to make sure that I am sleep deprived and unable to function.
Most times I can now overcome this, but it’s a process. For much of the last few years, because of what is happening with having a variety of weapons used on me in my home, I sometimes function on less sleep than the average person. Many targets get only a few hours sleep every night for months, because they can’t stay in one position for very long, and they constantly change positions, trying to not be burnt, or tortured.
I have had trouble with jobs over the last few years. Before this my records with keeping jobs is perfect. I lasted at most for years at a time, and left when I choose to.
I experienced workplace mobbing, and when it got extreme, like many other targets, I used vacation and other absent time to try to cope, but beyond that, a pretty good worker.
The other obstacle is that targets in the workplace have informants who are trying to get us to lose our jobs. I relayed the story of one group that I dealt with who went to my manager after I decided to move away from them, due to tactics like logging me out of my phone on breaks, to try to make it look like I was not punching out of the phones on breaks, which is a no no. After fun little things like that, I decided to move away from this group, who later when to my manager and advised that I was being unfriendly to them. Well this got me written up, and my manager telling me to be more friendly to them. I was, I told them that if they had anything work related they could feel free to approach me, but beyond that not so much. This was their attempt in my opinion to get me in trouble or fired from my job.
This don’t come to me unless it’s work related thing worked great, till one of the persons in that same group was able to get the biotch he was banging to get me fired from the the job anyways. It might have been indirect, but the results were the same. The biotch he was banging got her manager friends from what I heard to help get me fired.
I ran into these two some time later on separate occasions, and what do you really say to people like that? I mean do you say hey, thanks for getting me fired from my job? No you just ignore them. You just look at them and walk off. Leave them to comfort each other, knowing how unpleasant the strain of it all must have been for them, I mean having to run into the person you helped get fired, oh the trauma of it all, for them. Anyways, I am sure in some other dimension we are all BFF’s (Best Friends Forever) not. The chances are good that if people like that made your life hell here, they are likely to make your life hell in some other dimension, equally so or 1000 times more. If you believe in that stuff.
What I do notice is this, you always have specific people who are doing the same roles that I noticed on the train. So even though it’s been two years plus since I had any sensitivity, you still get the informants who try to make it look like I am sensitity. I can say without a shadow of a doubt that any incidents reported in the last over two years saying that I still have a sensitivify is a blatant lie. Yet every job I get, or on the street, they still try to fish. What I am wondering is, what is the legal period of time, that these governments can do this for? What are the paramators? What is the limitation and the scope? Are they just allowed to fish forever? Come on people, this might be a good angle to look into.
There is no governing body, that is why you could have them fuc* with people’s lives like Kimveer Gill, and Jiverly Wong for years at a time. They could do anything that they wanted to, and there was no governing body to intervene. Also since these two did not know exactly what was happening, it must have been so bad. Kimveer knew he was under investigation, and Jiverly knew the cops were involved, but I don’t think either had every found a Gang Stalking website, which is too bad. They might have found a supportive community and a way to deal with what was ongoing. people to talk to. I know Kimveer turned to the goth community, but that’s not the same thing, cause he was not able to openly discuss what was happening. There are just posting here and there. I find often that only another target, can acturally understand what I am going through, most people just can’t get their minds fully around it.
Anyways, so there will be informants where you work, and the only job of these under police controlled snitches will be to get you fired, or to make you look bad. So usually you get people trying to play with the phone logs, or finding other ways to try to make you look bad. Computer security at work becomes important. Do not put anything that is opened in the fridge. I don’t have to tell you that.
You are going to get a conductor, someone who co-ordinats the harassments and looks for reactions. Then you will get someone or usually many snitches that are going to be told, that they must do X Y Z. So if you are being framed to look like a racist, they will try to get you to say racist things, or if you are being made to look like a pervert, they will bring in mags, or engage in other conversation, if it’s crazy with a sensitivity, they will be told to perform the sensitivity throughout the day with someone observing your reactions. If the person observing your reactions, or doing the sensitivity are police controlled informants, then you have a problem, because then they follow the official agenda, and a second agenda given to them by their handlers. (These types of police controlled informants, do not belong in these types of investigations, because they will have a secondary agenda, always.) The regular informants are fine, but these types, are designed to get you fired from your job, or to portray you, however the handler, and those conducting the investigation see fit.
Many of them will also be example in difficult situations, I get a lot of people in immigration situations, or all races. Others in money situations, anything like this, and people will do desperate things. It’s how the Stasi worked, and it’s how our government now works. If they are holding something over these people, it makes them dangerous, and they will do whatever their handlers tell them to do. The image of Jiverly Wong being a loser, drug user, etc, did not maintain itself, it had lot’s of help.
Over the last few years, crazy has been the main thing to try to portray me as. Oh and a loser who can’t hold a job. Well when someone is allowed to try to keep you awake and sleep deprived for months and years at a time, and sometimes you are getting 3 hours sleep, because you become hypersensitive, then it’s easy to make someone miss work, or perform badly. I could probably do it, and in less time to the informants. I have worked well under the conditions that have been given to me. I have not yet excelled the way that I am accustomed, but sometimes surviving is the key. I want to do more than survive however.
If I can help other targets to get through this, to not kill themselves, or others, to not wind up in the mental ward, or jail, to not be portrayed as whatever, then I am doing a part of what I am meant to do.
I am awake right now, cause they again switched what they were doing, to try to keep me awake at nights and sleep deprived, so I have to fix this, and then get on with it. With this targeting, only another target can understand at times what is happening. Most people do not understand the concept that this is torture. The sleep deprivation, the being burnt with lasers, radar guns, other electronic weaponry, or directed energy weapons. They don’t understand what it’s like to have someone rewire the electricity in your home, so that the walls are dancing with electricity. They did this recently and it was so bad, the windows were shaking in my home. When you touched the walls, they were just vibrating, you can do this by messing with the electricity and rewiring, but it’s illegal. Yet informants do this stuff all the time, because the police controlled ones do anything that their handlers tell them to.
Remember the Cathrine Johnson case, she was 90, and they broke down her door and shot her. Well they planted drugs in her home, and they claimed that the informant had bought drugs there, well killing an innocent old woman was even more than the informant could handle and he told the press, that no, that was a lie, and the cops in that case were put in jail, but they do this all the time. The controlled informants should not be allowed to interact with targets. They in many cases have no integrity. (Not all cases, some people will always have integrity.) The problem is you have people like Rachel Hoffman, who get desperate, and agree to desperate things, or do desperate things to others so that they can survive, it becomes a game of eat or be eaten, and it creates a nasty society. It’s not right. The results are what you see, and the events that consistently unfold.
Even the informants who get the white glove treatment, like the ones who are paid to spy, they can get corrupted by the money being thrown at them. Got a tip about the employee you are working with? Are you sure they didn’t say something racist? Are you sure they didn’t hint at liking kidddy porn? Are you sure they didn’t react to the sensitivity? Etc. It’s not hard to get someone to lie, and they do.
Then there are the honest mistakes. People who thought or are so paranoid that they make faulty judgements. The informants are not professionals, and even under the best conditions professionals make mistakes, well in many cases, I have sat there, while they think someone else is the target, and just watched them, trying to provoke the person, and it’s horrible, because they are so convinced the person A is crazy, they will see crazy. I have had them sit there looking at someone who was not the target, and then they are like oh did you see that, or they indicate it, yeah because normal action is now crazy. I just smile and nod, or smile and do nothing. I think of the times, that my normal actions must have been like, oh the the target did that, and the retelling was exaggerated, or just fabricated, not even deliberately, but many of them get so caught up, they just make bad assessments.
They are a fascinating study. In my opinion, the police controlled informants should not be in the workplaces doing the assessments on targets, because you will get corrupted results. People in immigration situations, or money situations, or other situations where something is being held on them, should not be in these roles, because you will get corrupted results, but just like with the Stasi, that’s the idea.
So the goal of these people is to make me look like a crazy person, who can’t keep a job, who might be into drugs, who is now racist. (Yeah I am shocked by the last bit, but apparently if you research extremist sites, not post anything mind you, but just research that is enough for a fishing expedition.) These people are corrupt and you have to stay up to date on their every move.
Even when you try to explain this to the society at large, they don’t care. They are the first ones to insult, and judge the Kimveers Gill’s, and Jiverly Wong’s of this world, as pycho, but they take no ownership for their roles in creating these psycho’s. Society has a responsibility to take ownership for what is happening and to try to help prevent it. Many people can take a role in making sure some of these reforms and recommendations happen, not just for our safety, but for the safety of society.
Also next time, I will go over the pattern of the Manchurian Target. Someone who is not mind controlled, but who is targeted and groomed to the stage where the state knows that they could snap, and then they use them like we saw in the Jiverly Wong situation. As a target I can’t go to the bathroom without them knowing, yet Jiverly Wong, who owns guns, and uses them regularly, who had just lost his job, dropped out of the english language school, entered a place he had dropped out of, first parking his car in the back, and was then went into the front of the building, yet no one was on hand to stop him? Really, and there are reports that the news copters were in the sky very quickly, and the info about when the 911 call was made. Anyways it might be something worth looking into.
Was this event allowed to happen? Remember the killing sprees were going to be used, to get gun laws passed, but well let’s just say the more we highlight the ongoing agenda, the better chance we have of slowing it down, and who knows, maybe stopping it.
Down with the dysfunctionality
Down with the dysfunctionality.
Jon and Kate plus eight are soon to be no more. Am I celebrating. Sort of.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/090623/entertainment/us_tv_jon__amp__kate_split
I have never seen the show, I have never heard of them before they started to appear on my news almost weekly if not daily.
It just seemed like the relationship was dysfunctional, and it could not have been working for them or more importantly the children. Children always come first, and as much as I hate the concept of a broken home, if the drama is always going to be ongoing, then you need to call it quits, if not for yourself, then for the kids.
First it was rumours of his affair. I thought let’s cut the guy some slack, sometimes a friend is just a friend, but then the “friend” was caught also driving his car, and her brother is telling tales of it being so much more than that. Now he could have been lying, but clearly there was more to this friendship than met the eye.
Then the rumours of her cheating or accusations started. The fact that they had eight little lives riding on them, escaping everyone throughout the drama of it all.
Then there were rumours of them fighting, her spanking her daughter, and all this other junk, that was no bodies business. It wasn’t my business, I personally did not care, but obviously, most families will not last in the glare of the spotlight, it will take it’s toll as it did on these two, and here we are.
So there divorce papers were filed on Monday and as the articles said. Kate plus 8 separate. Cute.
I hope they can figure out there stuff for the kids, because at the end of the day, the kids are all that matter.
The next couple that were in the news till it made me sick. The Chris Brown and Rhianna affair.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/accesshollywood/090622/entertainment/chris_brown_strikes_plea_deal__avoids_jail_time_in_assault_case
Well actually his alleged affair and her battered and bruised face. Who could forget those images.
After the incident happened and there was the arrest, I thought that was the end of that, but then no they got back together, and you heard rumours from her friends that maybe she was still getting yelled at, I just thought, if it’s gotten to the stage where it’s so dysfunctional that he can hit you like you are Tina turner and he is ick, then you need to get out.
I don’t think that Chris Brown on his own is a bad person, but with Rhianna, it’s not a good look for him, or for her clearly. I am in no way shape or form excusing his behaviour or what he did to her, but I do know that if you are around the wrong people, they can bring out the worst in you. Just like Targets having to be around informants day in day out.
I think people want love to last, they want things to work out, I think that’s why he gave her the ring, and they tried for the quickie reunion. They wanted it to seem like it was not that bad, but it was that bad. His actions were uncontrolled, his temper could have killed her, and the thing is, because he did not take the time to find out why he did it, there was no way to say that it would not happen again.
The reality is most times if a man will hit once, they will hit again and again. If you are a guy and you find that you are in a situation where you are putting your hands on a woman, get out of that situation, get some counselling. If you are a woman in an unhealthy abusive situation, get out, get some counseling. The relationship will not reflect well on you, and there is a good chance that he will kill you. If you have kids, even more of an incentive to get out. Lucky for us, Chris and Rhianna did not have any kids.
They broke up and a week later Chris was dating an ex girlfriend, (Yeah love is just so eternal), and Rhianna recently found someone else. They both seem to be doing better and that’s what really counts, and more importantly, I hope I won’t have to read about them anymore, because it was so annoying.
Lastly he got community service and 5 years probation. I think this issue could have been handled between the two of them, because again it was no ones business, but Rhianna is an influence to millions of young girls and so society did have to put pressure on for that relationship to end. I think in this case it was for the best. I know there are lot’s of Chris and Rhianna fans who will feel different, but I think in this case it was what was for the best, and it was what was healthy.
Young guys and girls need to understand that these types of relationships are not healthy, they are abusive, and they usually do not end well.
http://dailyblabber.ivillage.com/entertainment/archives/2008/02/hulk-hogan-accused-of-having-a.html
We did not hear too much about this one, but I will list it under my down with the dysfunctional.
Recently Hulk Hogan, lesser known as Terry Bollea.
Hulk Hogan decided to enhance his 25 year marriage by having an affair with his daughters best friend. For some reason this did not go over too well, his wife decided to divorce him. Oh there were a whole bunch of other dysfunctional things ongoing, but the affair is what did it.
Then to get back at him, she decided to hook up, with a guy who went to the same school as her son. Her new man is 19 years old. She is being called a cougar.
First of all, guys if you are in a relationship and you are even half serious about that person, you are not going to do stupid things to mess that up. People do stray, things can happen, but remember guys, hell has no fury. That saying exists for a reason.
I don’t think the Hulksters wife would be off with some 19 year old, if he had not decided to cheat on her with the daughters best friend. I mean it’s not a fun thing to have happen, and the results of this are in and they are not pretty.
Hulk Hogan is upset that he does not have a wife. Gee I wonder why, but recently he made a comment saying that he “totally understood OJ”, was cause for concern.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/TV/04/16/hulk.hogan.oj/index.html
[quote] Hulk Hogan said his comments to Rolling Stone magazine that he can “totally understand” O.J. Simpson — the former football great found liable for the deaths of his wife and another man — are being misunderstood.
Linda and Hulk Hogan enjoy happier times at the 2006 MTV Video Music Awards in New York.
The pro wrestling legend said Wednesday that he “took the high road” and “didn’t do the O.J. Simpson thing” despite the pain of his bitter divorce fight with wife Linda.
Hogan’s lawyer said the quotes leaked to a gossip column have been taken out of context and the full article proves Hogan “never condones the O.J. situation.” Video Watch Hogan claim he was misquoted »
A spokesman for Linda Hogan said the statement amounts to a death threat and that her attorney is “weighing all options necessary to protect his client.”
“His violent and scary mood swings have been my nightmare for too many years,” Linda Hogan said Thursday in a written statement. “I hope for the sake of our kids that he gets the psychological help for himself and the safety of others.”
Her spokesman, Gary Smith, said, “For those who buy his claim the comment was taken out of context, read the rest of Rolling Stone and determine for yourself if his suicidal tendencies coupled with the use of drugs and alcohol make him a danger.”
The controversial quote is part of a eight-page feature article about Hogan to be published in the magazine’s Friday edition.
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“I could have turned everything into a crime scene like O.J., cutting everybody’s throat,” Hogan told Rolling Stone. “You live half a mile from the 20,000-square-foot home you can’t go to anymore, you’re driving through downtown Clearwater [Florida] and see a 19-year-old boy driving your Escalade, and you know that a 19-year-old boy is sleeping in your bed, with your wife… .
“I totally understand O.J. I get it.”[/quote]
He has tried to drive her new man Charlie off the road. So though I really do like Hulk Hogan, I think when a guy makes a threat like that, or takes some kind of action in that direction, maybe you need to take it seriously.
I have respected the Hulkster most of my life, but that comment was pretty bad, that coupled with the fact that that Charlie says the Hulk tried to run him off the road, they might want to take the situation seriously.
It’s too bad, because he thought that he was going to cheat and she was just going to take it, and the wife of, 25 years, decided to get some of her own back.
http://woodenspears.com/tag/linda-hogan/
A lot of the younger ones today, have this sort of mentality. They have the one girl wife, and they think it’s ok to have a bunch of other relationships on the side. Thus in turn causing a lot of Maury Povich drama. They have the main girl, who they give a ring of ownership to or something like that, there’s a trendy name for it, can’t recall it off hand, and they conduct themselves in this manner, and large portions of society think this is ok.
Kids it’s not ok. Marriage is about forsaking all others, giving up the others and settling for one. If you are going to be seeing others on the side, do the world a favor and don’t get married. This goes double for you adults who think the swinging thing is ok. If you want to swing, stay single, or just date, but once you get married, or plan to be in a long term relationship, then keep in mind what marriage traditionally was designed for.
My prayers are with the Jolie-Pitts and their children. I am hoping that they can work out any ruff patches they may be going through, before they fall into the above dysfunctional categories.
So again, as much as I like stable families, sometimes it’s better and safer to get out, sometimes the dysfunctionality is too great, and primarily, if you have kids and they are going to suffer, then sometimes a relationship needs to be put down, it’s just safer and healthier for everyone involved, and there are many items more news worthy.
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