Informant Signals
Below is an updated list of some of the signals that I have observed the informants using over the years. It’s not a complete list, but it should help get the average person started in snitch speak.
Remember the actual terms might not be exact, but this is a general gist of what they use the signals to convey. These were picked up over the last few years, on the streets. I have spent hours watching, researching.
A lot of this was picked up as I was being tortured in my home. I would go out and watch them, part of the biggest problem in the beginning was figuring out how they were communicating, how the message were being passed, how they were coordinating to harass me.
If you have read the blog, I have discussed, the fact that their is often a conductor who the snitches look to, they are also given instructions. Eg. Circle the target, they always want the target in a square. They always want to be on all four sides to feel like they are guarding the target.
Some are brilliant at passing signals, some are horrible. You learn a lot from the horrible ones. The signals are passed in different ways culturally. I have blogged about this before. When I was just watching them and learning their language it was fascinating to watch as people from this culture passed a signal in this way, vs another that way.
Eg. The squeezing the nose to indicate I understand it passed by some by putting the hand up the nose. Very gross, but very interesting. Culturally just like with any language, or variation of accents, the signals also have their own distinctions. Eg. I first saw someone of Spanish decent explaining that where they were from they used the center of the forehead, not the hand over the eyes.
I was fascinated by the fact that this must have been ongoing for some time, but I never had a clue. I was disgusted and nauseated to discover that on a daily basis most of the people around me, knew this language. It meant they were informants, citizens of the state, and thus not on my side. Still it was interesting to learn.
There is so much more to how they function, but I am disgusted by the stupidity I see. I think to understand them, you had to have some fascination or appreciation of how they functioned, I don’t think I will ever have that again, but maybe someday, someone else will.
1. Open Communication.
#Yawning and placing the hand over the mouth, or taking a drink to open communications
The most common signal that I have observed the informants using is their open communication signal.
This can be done in a variety of ways, but the most common way is to take a sip of water or drink from any container.
The open communication signal can also be conveyed via, pretending to yawn, or by putting the hand over the mouth.
They use this signal to engage other informants in the communication process.
There are other ways to pass this signal but this is the basics for now.
#Car patrols will flash their lights to open communication with foot patrols
When an informant is on foot, the cars will flash lights to open communication. In the Targeted Individual Community it was thought that this was just being used at night to annoy targets, but flashing the lights is used to identify themselves to their foot patrols.
2. Coughing
This signal is not only used to harass targets, but it’s also their way of getting the attention of other snitches.
Eg. If an informant is not paying attention and you want to begin the open communication process you can cough, clear the throat. Then you will usually see other communication between the informants.
3. On Watch
# Rubbing or touching the eyes or corners of the eyes or placing on glasses indicating you are on watch.
This is the signal that you will see informants use most often. They will do this in a variety of ways.
The basic way of indicating this is done by placing one hand over the eyes.
You can also just rub one eye or the other.
They will use eye glasses, sun glasses, by placing them on the face it indicates the same thing.
A new way of doing this is by also rubbing the center of the forehead, where your third eye would be if you had one.
#In some cities headphone are also used to indicate that Informants are on patrol
4. I don’t understand
Pulling on the ear. Seems to indicate that the receiver has not understood what the sender has said.
5. I know.
#Briefly tapping or squeezing the nose, indicates that you understand.
You will see this quite often and it’s their way of indicating that they know, or that they understand.
# The double blink to indicate understanding etc.
If their hands are full, or they can not pass a signal any other way, this can also be used to indicate understanding.
6. At Rest
This is done by placing the hand to the side of the head. The thinking mans pose. It seems to indicate that the informants are at rest, no action is happening.
7. Stop Signalling/Communication
This is done by placing the index finger to the lips, and making a semi circle. or clasp motion. They stop communication and go silent when this signal is given.
8. Greeting.
When out in public, they brush their hair back three times, but this is done at the back of the neck not at the front. It seems to be a greeting to help identify them with each other yet again.
9. What’s happening, What’s going on.
# Brushing back the front hair 3 times
10. Directional signals.
Eg. When out in public they will often tell each other to walk left right, etc, with the nose. Eg. The index finger below the nose to the left would tell the other informant to go left. To the right would tell the other informant to go right.
They might also use these directional signal to indicate the direction of the target that is on watch, but by doing so with the eyes. (This needs confirmation)
There are more, but everytime they have fun with me, I have fun with them, and I didn’t want them to think I was a party pooper, so this way others can have fun too.
From the inside
The best way to bring down any system? From the inside, that’s what the government has been doing for years. They infiltrated the civil rights movement, panthers, 9/11 truth, etc. They have also done this with gangs, mafia, etc. Often they put their people on the inside and use them to destroy these organization, set people up, etc.
That is also why they want to join these conspiracy, extremist, and other forums. They plan, manipulate and work for years to get into positions of power and authority. They do this in society too, judges, lawyers, politicians, they get in and further advance people like themselves, (corrupted, immoral, deceitful, etc) and suddenly they are in charge. The innocent get mobbed out of these jobs, and what’s left is an organization with the corrupt, obedient, or those who just don’t ask questions, or maybe with a few who are too afraid to.
Well the interesting thing is this concept can work, and eventually will work with this system one way or another. Two things can happen with a sytem like this, if the people could ever effectively wake up, realise there is something wrong, they would have the power to change it. If they unanomously got together, realised that things are wrong, then from the inside they could bring in down, sabotage the system the same way they do to other groups and organizations.
The other method is an eventuality. They destroy themselves because they get so immoral, so corrupted, so debased, that all that is left are the stupid, immoral and corrupted. People of independent thought are often long gone by this time, and what is left eventually like what we saw in the movie apacalypto destroyes itself from the inside.
One process is what we might call revolution, this is a process that they fear. That the people will wake up, stop believing the propaganda, stop believing the lies. Get past all the lies they have been sold to keep them seperate, these lies that keep you seperate are part of their control structure, till you can overcome these, your chances are much more limited.
Revolution can come by bloody battles, it come come by peaceful protest, it can come by popular sentiment, but it can happen if a people truly wake up, feel that something is wrong, and decide to do something about it. Most people try to make revolution happen at the voting booth every few years, but if all parties are the same, or working for the same side, then revolution can not truly be fascilitated this way.
If revolution fails, and the people remain silent, then an eventuality of tyranny almost always happens. Then the people suffer, the good are destroyed, and freedoms are suppressed. However a society like this eventually eats itself from the inside, however this process is much slower, and it usually involves the systemic destruction of the innocent, the independent thinkers, dissidents, etc.
A society as a whole has great power to decide their fate and the change the course of their lives for the better, they can choose a future of enslavement, or they can sit down, realistically look at the problem, and start to believe and realise that they have the power, they have the capacity to make a change for the better, and then start to go about making those changes.
A desire for change, getting past fear, awakening of society, organizing, and eventually action of some kind are all keep factors in starting to make that change happen, if society wants the first outcome vs the last.
This system already has people on the inside that can make a difference. If you can wake up, realise this system is broken and corrupted, you can make a change for the better. There is still time, and more importantly, the members of the society, have the capacity, and the people have the power to bring about this change.
I think taking an it starts with me attitude is key, but people have been down for so long, it takes a lot to change behaviour patterns and enslaved thinking patterns, we have in ways gotten lazy, many want change, but change is scary, and also many are just comfortable enough, but we know that if things are allowed to continue this way, it will eventually get very uncomfortable for those who value any sort of freedom, or independent thought. Interestingly enough thought is the key, we have the capacity to change the world for the better, but we have to desire that, believe that, and work towards that, otherwise this corrupted system will destroy itself, but before it does, it will take a lot of innocent people with it in the process.
Refuse to live in fear
Fear it’s the power that controls and consumes the lives of many people right now. As long as they are consumed by the fear they will be controlled by it. As long as they let others tell them what to be afraid of they will control the masses.
Wars on Drugs, War on Terror, Street Gangs, Global Warming, Swine Flu, etc. It can be anything, the only person or persons that can control this fear or stop it from happening is us. We the people. We have the power and they know it, thus they keep us in a constant state of fear. They put weak and pathetic leaders forwards, ones in their control, who we are then told to emulate.
You see this questionable leadership in all areas of society, but most people never question it, it’s always been like this and they don’t think that things can change, or that they will change. Also they are so comfortable, they are too lazy to put in the effort that it would take to make a change. Even if it’s slavery it’s still a routine that they know and they are willing to work with it.
Targeted Individuals know a lot about fear. We deal with fear when we are mobbed, targeted, electronically harassed, and the various other things that targets go through. Being afraid is a normal human emotion and there is nothing wrong with it, but when it overpowers and controls your life, then it’s a bad thing. That’s when it becomes a problem.
Many targets deal with fears that most people think make them look crazy. Eg. They get sensitized over time to a color, word, action, ect and finally all the negative associations, or the big event that it took to make them sensitized is not needed, any little trigger event will do, and these informants on a daily basis will use little trigger events to keep the target scared and in their control.
They will also try to anchor on other things to keep targets scared of more things, till their life becomes one big fear factor. That is the goal, then all they have to do is snap a finger, jingle a key, cough, sneeze, use the color red, patterns, snap laptops, etc, and the target reacts. Those are some of the sensitivities I have heard about since coming online. These are designed to keep the Targeted Individual in a state of anxiety or fear. Before these little events could work, they used big events to try to make the target afraid. Eg. When I first started being electronically harassed and burnt in my home, or as the informants like to call it, (electronically monitored) they use to always try to attach a noise of a drill to the torture. So there I would be getting burnt, and then at the time I knew nothing about shielding and had no defence so it was pretty raw, and painful. They consistently tried to make sure that drilling was attached to the torture, this was over several months. So when I went back out into the world, they were sure, and banking on the fact that I would be sensitized to the sound of drills and then they could just tell the informants, this person has a phobia, is very sensitize to drills, acts out is not normal, ah but they failed. For the next two years and even to today, they still attempt it once in awhile to see if I was sensitized. It just shows me that with proper knowledge, we can win out over these people in small little ways, day by day.
See I was lucky, I had one sensitivity, I had it for years. Before my torture with electronic harassment started I learnt about anchors, so I realized that they would be trying to attach another sensitivity to the one I already had. I had a working knowledge of Pavlov and the dog experiment so I was familiar with what they were trying to do.
Eg. Pavlov would ring a bell during his dog’s feeding time. The dog would start to salivate over the food. After a while he could just ring the bell and the dog would start to salivate, cause he had associated the sound with food, in our case we associate the sensitivity to negative things they have done to us over time, without in many cases even realising that they are sensitizing us till it’s too late.
The sensitivity that I had when my electronic harassment began, I spent that time at home being tortured and electronically harassed, but also getting over my sensitivity. It was not perfect, but over the next few months, it got better, and is at a normal level to what it was before the sensitivity started.
So what does this have to do with fear that the average person’s experiences? Well let’s take 9/11 a big, huge event that got everyone scared, panicked. Most people because they shared the fear understand it and agree that this was a fear worthy event, and understand and accept that people are scared and have a phobia about this event happening again.
So now several years later, you don’t need another 9/11 to keep the people scared, the occasional terrorist threat, weird plane flying over New York, and keep the citizens on high alert and they are in the grips of fear, and it works. Also if we get them scared of 9/11 then we can add in other fears, attach additional fears.
See these people try to stop us from living our lives by trying to scare us, systemically trying to destroy us, and they want to try to control us. Well 9/11 does the same for the average citizen.
When people are scared they can do silly things, behave in what to the average person seems like irrational behavior, but to them seems perfectly normal. To an outsider that did not know about 9/11, voodoo rituals of taking off belts, shoes, and allowing oneself to be scanned and shown virtually naked to some stranger, would seem bizarre if not flat out crazy, an outsider would laugh and be like what’s wrong with these people, allowing themselves to be treated like that and give up their rights? But because the fear has happened over the last several years it seems normal to the people that share this common fear. Just like our phobias are normal to us, based on our experiences.
Getting past fear, not feeding the fear factor. For my sensitivity it was a process. Each time I was home, I worked on it, I did not have the daily exposure, I knew it was irrational, I knew how it had come about, and I had a pretty good idea how to go about disassociating it with negative things, but it took time, and I had to work on it.
Fear is something that we have in many ways, it’s normal and healthy, it can even keep us safe, but there is a stage where fear becomes irrational and even hurtful. Most times fear is individually based and if your phobia is going to an extreme level, an outsider can often point this out. However fear of 9/11 was group based, and the fear is shared by such a large group that their irrational actions, and activities are not being registered. The vast majority see these crazy measures, as something sane. They see giving up their rights, privacy, dignity as something needful to keep them safe. The fear is so deep routed that they are not only willing to give up their rights as a society and individuals, but then they are like a drug addict willing to drag down those around them who don’t see things this way, those who refuse to give into this irrationality.
They want others to be scared the way they are, and those of us who just don’t function this way, they are happy to take aware our rights, our freedoms. They are happy to go to other countries and attack others to try to bring about safety and security, which only succeeds in making more enemies, but instead of seeing this for what it is, they continue on in the same vain as before. Doing more harm to their chances of having a normal safe future.
Fear can be strong, powerful and irrational. At some stage however if you want to get better as an individual, or as a society, you have to stop giving into this fear, you have to find some way to let it go. Unfortunately being scared, living in fear works for many right now, too many, and like Dr Phil says, if it’s working for you, you are not going to change. Something about this cycle of fear and stupidity is working for a large majority of people, and the rest of us are caught up in their self destructive spiral of destruction.
We can’t force them to stop being scared, I don’t believe that we have the right. But we can point out why the fear is irrational, encourage them to help them get past the fear. We can raise our own vibrational levels, refuse to live in fear in our own lives, and try to help those around us who are gripped by fear to get past it. Many never get past it, but they might be able to get to a stage where they are functioning in a rational and sane manner again. McCarthyism continued until just a few stood up and said, enough is enough, “have you no shame,” and then it fell apart from there.
Change can happen, you can stop living in fear. It’s a painful, daily emotional experience, I am not trying to pretend that it will be easy. Right now this fear is enslaving and to many the fear appears to be protecting, but it’s not, however people will only see this in their own time, when they get ready to deal with the fear. For many it will be never. Yesterday it was the Russian’s, they were the one’s to fear, they were going to drop that nuclear bomb anytime. That fear seemed logical to some, and it allowed them to do crazy things. Today it’s terrorist. Tomorrow it will likely be someone else, or something else. Whatever will get a response from the people. Just like whatever will get a response from the Targeted Individual.
Each person has to take some individual responsibility for what is happening. It’s a normal thing in today’s society to be scared, but each person has to try to move past that fear.
First realise that there is a problem. The society is being destroyed by this fear. The rights and freedoms that you claim others envy so much, where are they? Are they running around naked at airports, well not running around naked, but being scanned naked, with privates available for view? (Yes the naughty bits will be available for view, or there is no point in having the scanners.) Are they getting mind read at the airports? When do you say enough is enough?
Even if the worst thing does happen, you would pick up your lives, your psyche and continue on, that is how normal societies function, and I know you probably don’t want to hear this from the Targeted Individual, but you are no longer behaving in a rational manner.
If you are able to realise that there is a problem with what is happening, then you need to ask yourself what can you do at an individual level to fix this problem? Then take it from there.
Fear controls us as long as we let it. I have watched psycho nut jobs, some of these informants try to destroy my life for years. Jobless at times, threats of losing my roof over my head, almost daily attempts to run/drive into me in lethal ways. Plus the just being annoyed by the informants as they try to provoke. I have been there done that, it’s not a place I like, and it’s one that I want to stay away from. Like others I have to work at it.
If you can raise yourself up from the fear, then you can help others. Some of us got past the Flu Fear recently, and Global Warming fears, but they seem to always be able to pull the people back in with the terror scare. Until you the people find a way to stop being scarred, then they have us, and the terrorists real or imagined, planned or unplanned will have it and you will have lost.
Overcoming fear is not easy, it’s a daily process, but we have to try because freedom and democratic security are worth fighting for.
Voice to skull
Voice To Skull otherwise known as V2K.
Now let me state this before I go further. I am not an expert on this topic. I have never been a target of this practice. My knowledge is limited, but I do get questions in regards to this from time to time, so I am going to try to tackle this in a small way.
This is not advise, a professional opinion, or legal feedback in anyway shape or form.
I also want to say to true targets of this practice, I think you are very brave discussing this stuff. It can not be easy, and I hope that technology can be found to counter what is happening.
Some targets legitimate targets complain about hearing voices. If you are from outside the community and someone tells you that they are hearing voices you assume that they are crazy right?
Well the more you know the better able you are to make informed choices and opinions.
Now after watching this video, do you think that everyone hearing voices is crazy?
What about after watching this clip from Real Genius? It’s a 1980’s movie staring Val Kilmeer, where they get someone to hear voices via a tooth implant.
They put the person to sleep, do a bit of drilling in his tooth, and he wakes up thinking that he is hearing the voice of God. This was a cheap 80’s trick. Actual technology has come a long way.
The clip will not be posted here, but if you really look for it you can find it. Or just rent the movie.
You can even watch the movie control factor. Where they also use technology to get people to hear voices. In an apartment not too far from where the target lives.
[quote]“The American people have been kept in the dark about the true scientific progress in this country. Technologies of mass-control exist that the public would never dream off. I know because, I helped developed them. They call it psychotronic warfare, a research program dealing with mind-control. They can control everything what a person does, voices, that is how they get ya. This is not the elected government, this is the national security empire, the dark vaders of the 21st century.” –Control Factor
Credit Source:
This short video clip was taken from the movie “Control Factor(2003) by Universal Studios”
More Mind-Control Sources:
Mind Control The Ultimate Terror:
www.educate-yourself.org/mc/
Psychotronics:
www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/cienc ia_psychotronicweapons.htm
Mind Control with Silent Sounds & Super Computers:
www.educate-yourself.org/cn/mindcontrolw ithsilentsounds24jun05.shtml
Digital TV – Mind Control by sound of silence:
www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica /esp_sociopol_mindcon40.htm[/quote]
Now control factor is just a movie, but the concept of the technology is very real.
This silent sound technology was patented years ago. Microwave hearing, which would allow a microwave to send voices directly inside the human head.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_auditory_effect
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The microwave auditory effect, also known as the microwave hearing effect or the Frey effect, consists of audible clicks induced by pulsed/modulated microwave frequencies. The clicks are generated directly inside the human head without the need of any receiving electronic device. The effect was first reported by persons working in the vicinity of radar transponders during World War II. These induced sounds are not audible to other people nearby. The microwave auditory effect was later discovered to be inducible with shorter-wavelength portions of the electromagnetic spectrum. During the Cold War era, the American neuroscientist Allan H. Frey studied this phenomenon and was the first to publish (Journal of Applied Physiology, Vol. 17, pages 689-692, 1962) information on the nature of the microwave auditory effect; this effect is therefore also known as the Frey effect.
Dr. Don R. Justesen published “Microwaves and Behavior” in The American Psychologist (Volume 30, March 1975, Number 3).
Research by NASA in the 1970s[citation needed] showed that this effect occurs as a result of thermal expansion of parts of the human ear around the cochlea, even at low power density. Later, signal modulation was found to produce sounds or words that appeared to originate intracranially. It was studied for its possible use in communications. Similar research conducted in the USSR studied its use in non-lethal weaponry.[citation needed]
The existence of non-lethal weaponry that exploits the microwave auditory effect appears to have been classified “Secret NOFORN” in the USA from (at the latest) 1998, until the declassification on 6 December 2006 of “Bioeffects of Selected Non-Lethal Weaponry” in response to a FOIA request.
The technology gained further public attention when a company announced in early 2008 that they were close to fielding a device called MEDUSA (Mob Excess Deterrent Using Silent Audio) based on the principle.[1]
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So if a target starts to hear voices how do they know if they are crazy or being experimented on with one of the above technologies or even something more advanced?
This is a hard question to answer. The targeting that we experience I fully believe is capable of driving a perfectly sane person, mentally unstable. However I do believe that some targets are being played with, using some of the above technologies.
If I was a target in this situation, I would use a very scientific method to investigate.
Location.
Are you hearing the voices at all times, or just in specific locations?
Does it happen under water? Is the effect increased or decreased in anyway?
Have you tried to record the voices? Remember we can not hear dog whistles, but they do work. Many sounds are outside of human hearing, but other technology might be able to pick it up.
I am not sure if a microwave would block the sounds out, but if I was a target in this situation, and thought microwave hearing was being used, I would try to see if the noise could be eliminated by testing out a microwave. Eg. Unplugged a microwave, if you place your head/skull inside for a few seconds, do the voices stop? I know this sounds extreme, but honestly it’s something that I would check, takes about 30 seconds and this may or may not be something that could be attempted.
I mentioned recently that they are working on technology to give the world an invisible cloak, should be ready in the next three years or less. Yes an honest to goodness invisibility cloak. Think Harry Potter.
The materials they are using, are designed to bounce off microwave rays and this might help targets in the future if microwaves are being used. However the materials are expensive, but for targets with money to burn, then this could be something to look into.
Underground bunkers, deprivation chambers? I don’t know if any of these would work. Climbing a high mountain? Just to test out different locations, to see if it is something high tech vs low tech, vs something that is with you 24/7.
Again the above may or may not prove or disprove anything but it’s something that I would look into if in the same situation.
Why I believe some targets who say this is happening to them? Well in part because of the above examples posted, but the targets that I do believe, they were really specific.
Ruth Goodman, said it was men that she had dated, who worked in the intelligence industry. She said it happened to her after she was drugged and put under anesthesia. She thinks some form of micro surgery was done. She says they tried to keep her off the internet and prevent her from writing. She died shortly after, so I can’t confirm this one way or another, but her example fits what others have said.
A man I think his name was Tracy said that he could hear people like they were fighting over a microphone, and he knew at least one. To me based on what he said, it sounded like they were close by where they could see him, and the stuff they said, sounded like hicks who really wanted to mess with someone.
Gloria Naylor from what I recall said that her voices prevented her from writing. Now in her case I don’t know if they were with her all the time, or just when near the computer.
I like what Naylor did in the sense that she tried the traditional method, was given medication, it did not work, so she looked around for other answers.
I think this is logical, but as a target, I know that I would do a lot of research, experimentation and troubleshooting first.
So I spent a large part of the last few days brainstorming trying to figure out what things targets have done, and what they could do.
Remember these people who are doing this to you are not God, they would like to be, but they are not.
[quote]They are trying to develop a beam of light, it would be projected onto your forehead, go a couple of milimeters into your frontal cortex, and then receptors would get the reflection of that light, and you would not know. [/quote]
They even have laser microphones.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_microphone
[quote]The main type of laser microphone is a surveillance device that uses a laser beam to detect sound vibrations in a distant object. The object is typically inside a room where a conversation is taking place, and can be anything that can vibrate (for example, a picture on a wall) in response to the pressure waves created by noises present in the room. The object preferably has a smooth surface. The laser beam is directed into the room through a window, reflects off the object and returns to a receiver that converts the beam to an audio signal. The beam may also be bounced off the window itself. The minute differences in the distance traveled by the light as it reflects from the vibrating object are detected interferometrically. The interferometer converts the variations to intensity variations, and electronics are used to convert these variations to signals that can be converted back to sound.[/quote]
The world is changing at a rapid pace. If a target today goes to the doctor to complain of hearing voices, they are still automatically in most cases diagnosed as mentally unstable, but the reality is, if a psychiatrist or other health care professional is not upto date on the latest technology, or even aware of secret technologies, they run the risk of making a faulty dignosis, where someone might actually be telling the truth. The science fiction of yesterday, is science fact today.
Merry Christmas. Happy Holidays. To one and all.
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I hope you all have a Merry Christmas and a Happy Holiday Season.
Wishing you all the best. Take heart, and hoping to see you all in the New Year.
Best and Warmest Regards,
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Community Oriented Policing
Community Oriented Policing.
A target recently had some questions about his possible targeting, and I think that this is a good time to go over Community Oriented Policing Programs once again.
There are now efforts around the world to use something called community based policing. This is more than likely what is playing a large role in gang stalking.
[quote]āRuling the community with an iron fist. āSavvy law enforcement types realized that under the community policing rubric, cops, community groups, local companies, private foundations, citizen informants and federal agencies could form alliances without causing public outcry.ā Covert Action Quarterly, summer 1997.ā
http://www.albionmonitor.com/9711b/policing.html
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Under these programs the community work with the police to find problems and solutions and yes the citizens inform to the police. Each area gets to more or less manage itself as it sees fit, a wet dream right?
Eg. In one area of one city, this program allowed men to have sex openly in a gay club, in a gay district of town. In another area that had a lot of prostitution, they went very light on this.
So each area can manage itself as it sees fit, each area identify problems, anti social behavior, etc and they work on solutions. Remember these programs joined forces with federal agencies, private foundations, corporations, community groups, local police, etc. So an employer who puts someone on a list could potentially get them targeted in all these areas.
http://nord.twu.net/acl/evolution.html
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What Is A Communitarian? by Niki Raapana
Communitarians believe that all neighborhoods should be governed like Chinese collectives. They teach that mandatory volunteerism in the community is a moral obligation of all citizens, and that intervening and reporting on your neighbors is required to maintain their individual freedom.
It may sound like two conflicting ideologies, but itās not. Communitarianism balances all political conflicts into one master, ideological solution.
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Under the UN Agenda 21 program all cities of the world will eventually move to this style of governance.
http://nord.twu.net/acl/agenda21.html
[quote]The communitarian plan for reinventing a global government was adopted by the UN in 1992 at the Earth Summit. There were no public votes cast for or against it in any of the affected “free” nations. Average citizens were not consulted. In most free and democratic countries, the nation’s taxpayers (who pay for it) were never even told about it. The major media outlets were mostly silent while for thirteen years, the UN’s LA-21 laws have been imposed on all 166 member nations.
There were no big discussions of its purpose or ultimate consequences. It just slid into law. It’s really pretty amazing. No major editorials, no explanation of how it would be imposed, it was barely announced by the national governments who endorsed it. Only a few enlightened locals understand LA-21 requires a total reorganization of government systems. It eliminates individual rights in the free countries. National systems of political economy are subserviant to LA-21 laws.[/quote]
Cities such as L.A. and Toronto have been blessed with community oriented policing for years.
So you have a nifty little program, each division does what it wants to a degree, and units which work with the public. So if a target is getting followed it might change depending on which section they are walking through. Keep in mind that these people share information, and with the federal agencies merging with the lower agencies, the dirty tricks have been passed around and shared.
For my targeting I have had some fun.
With lawyers, I had one lawyer tell me that to send a letter off to get the targeting to stop, she would need for me to supply the name of the program, and who was in charge.
Another lawyer without me saying anything, asked if I had trouble finding a job, or getting an apartment. At the time I had not had trouble with apartments, but my job hunt had gone off. This lawyer was not with the firm that I contacted. The firm had to get an outside lawyer that they consult with for this type of case. That was one more adventure.
I also have spoken to loads of detectives, most saying that they have never heard of these tactics, then I talked to one, and he said that these were standard tactics and that any detective should be aware of them, they are standard tactics for police surveillance operations. So much like customer service and getting help, it depends on who you talk to. Shortly after this he calmed up and discontinued contact, but there are people out there who can help, but you have to get to them, before the state realises what you are doing or they will shut them down. Thus why I tell targets don’t share you lawyers name etc. This is my opinion and you have to do what suits you.
I recently spoke to a community lawyer and asked about the violent persons registry, I phrased it as, you know if you get into a fight or argument and then get put on a list and followed around, like stores, etc, like a violent persons list or something. She knew what I meant, and asked if I found the info online? She also said at their location they did not handle that, but to try the lawyer referral service and see if they could help. Which is better than a few years ago, it’s all about who you talk to, and referencing the violent persons registry might help as well, just to get some head way.
So much like customer service it’s who you talk to, but then it’s also trying to be stealthy, if you find someone who will help, try to do it in secret, cause they will get shut down, clam up and suddenly refuse to talk to you or assist you.
So to recap, with community policing each area does what it deems best, so yes you could have some areas more psychotic than others, it all depends. I think most are about the same to one degree, but just like some areas being allowed to have open sex in bars, some areas might be more human with how the targeting and monitoring is carried out. Small towns vs large, etc.
Also for the targeting to answer the question that I was asked, no they don’t use the same tactics on each target, they try a bunch of things, then they see what you are sensitive to if anything and try to go from their. I just found out that my polite avoiding of their stupidity has been interpreted as a phobia or something so now they try to use crowding as a tactic. God sometimes they are so…
Anyways so there you have it I hope it helps. If you act sensitive to the color red, or they can get you to notice, then they will try to use more of the same till you are sensitized in a negative way. They want to keep the target captivated at all times. If you respond to any of their stimulus that will be worked into your program. If they can get you with one, they will get you with another. I had one at the start of this, I worked with myself to get rid of it and I have never had another. If you are sensitized you can do this also and get rid of yours over time, by removing the negative associations, etc.
Stop shooting messengers and face the truth
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article6952298.ece
[quote]December 11, 2009
Stop shooting messengers and face the truth
Sometimes knowledge is uncomfortable. But it is the mark of a civilised society that we do not sweep it under the carpetIn 413BC a traveller sat down in a barberās shop in Piraeus, the Athenian port, and readied himself for a shave. He commiserated with the locals for the loss of their recent military expedition to Syracuse. The horror dawned; the traveller was first with the news. The barber flung down his tools and ran to the city, crying the news. His reward? The Athenians refused to believe that their navy had been destroyed, that their sons and brothers were dead or working as slaves in Sicilian mines. As Plutarch tells us, the barber was āfastened to the wheel and rackedā.
This is how we so often treat those who tell us the truth we do not want to hear. History is littered with examples of messengers being shot, tortured and pilloried, literally and metaphorically.
To quote Sophoclesā Antigone: āNo one loves the messenger who brings bad news.ā To misquote Corporal Jones: āWe donāt like it up us.ā
We assume that we are different from our forefathers; more tolerant and more willing to allow uncomfortable truths to be aired. We have a liberal democracy and we congratulate ourselves on a commitment to freedom of speech. Yet when the truth sits uncomfortably with our notions of what is right, when it clashes with our dearly held notions of tolerance, we are as squeamish as any of our ancestors. Few are as intolerant as the self-consciously tolerant.[/quote]
The article above is about crime in the U.K. but it could just as easily been about trying to get the truth out about Gang Stalking and the fact that people in most time periods do not like people who tell them the truth, or who preach something that goes against their orthodoxy. What I am learning about this time period is that it is no better, in fact it’s worst, because unlike other times, we have so much wonderful and rich history to fall back on, and yet in many ways we are just as ignorant.
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This is how we so often treat those who tell us the truth we do not want to hear. History is littered with examples of messengers being shot, tortured and pilloried, literally and metaphorically.To quote Sophoclesā Antigone: āNo one loves the messenger who brings bad news.ā To misquote Corporal Jones: āWe donāt like it up us.ā
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Sorry if the message is not what you want to hear, truth is a bitter pill to swallow at times. For me I loved my country, I thought I lived in the best place on earth (literally). It took me a really long time of grappling with the betrayal I felt to come to the semi-full realization of some truth. I don’t think I have the full truth, I am not sure I could handle the full truth just yet, but I have tried to educate myself on some of the recent history, the stuff that the text book does not tell you, some of the not so hidden conspiracy, and it’s one shock to the system after another.
Sometimes I get angry with people for being so stupid and gullible, for believing the best, but I was right there a few short years ago, and without my targeting, it would have taken me a very long time to believe anything bad about my country, or my fellow citizens. I always thought of us as the good guys, that we would never ever do what was done in East Germany or other places. I was so naive, so desperately wrong, luckily for me truth is easier to swallow when you have the burn marks, bruises, and psychological torture to show for it. Without this, I might still be trying to believe that my country was not doing anything bad. I might not have taken the time to research like I have, but I have now done this, and I have no intention of going back.
I don’t hate my fellow citizens, I feel sorry for them, many of them likely think that they are doing something good, trying to be good citizens like I was taught to be, but I am lucky, I have seen the dark side and I know enough history to know that what is being done is wrong. Most importantly as a target, I have seen, experienced and read about cruelty like none other, and I am quite comfortable with how I feel.
I know for some this is hard to comprehend, some really are just there to try to make the society better, but if killing the innocent is how you are going to make the society better, you are wrong. I know many don’t see it this way, the 15 to 30 minutes that they give seems like nothing and they might not see how their small roles could destroy lives, so with every story, revelation targets have tried to show you this. We have been trying to say, hey look we are innocent, in many cases good people, and something is wrong within the society cause it’s destroying our lives. Many of us naively thought that this would be enough, but we were proven wrong time and again, and worst many started to realize the long term goal of this targeting is our destruction, how could you expect us to be ok with it?
Did you think this was Stalinist Russia? Did you think that we would agree that we were bad because the state said so? The state who does some of the most hypocritical, terroristic things? Not going to happen. Most of us are good people, we do not deserve this, and we are saying that a system that would destroy us, is a broken and corrupted system. I get that some do not see it that way, but I am sorry for you, because we see it, live it and feel it on a daily basis and it does destroy lives.
In trying to expose this, we are just doing what past targets have done, would you honestly expect anything less? Don’t get upset if you have a harder time destroying our lives, it’s not our jobs to make it easier for you to do so, and how silly would you have to be to think so?
The goal of these sites is to support each other, document the stories of targets, and to highlight the sad truth, which is that our countries are becoming a nation of informants, but also to show what has happened to other societies where this was allowed to happen. The saddest part I find in researching is that when these times are happening, people always feel justified, they believe the lies, and they become so brain washed that they can not see past the lies, they have to believe the lies. They tell themseles I was just following orders. I did it cause an authority figure told me to. Anything else would mean confronting the evils of their actions, the drunken power that corrupts consistently in every time period. The comradely in these times of evil that oppressors invariably feel towards one another.
History can teach a great deal, but it’s words and facts, it is not hearts and minds, only by reaching hearts and minds can we hope to change things for the better and ensure a brighter future for ourselves and others. Believe it or not, we are not just fighting for ourselves, our main survival is key to be sure, but targets are also invariably fighting for others so that they do not have to go through and experience this horrible betrayal by the state.
I don’t know what else can be said, there are some really wrong and horrific things happening, to not draw attention to that would be neglectful at best, but it would also be a betrayal in another way. I have more incentive ofcourse, but it’s no less imperative for others to awaken to what is happening.
Also I tend to go on about us and them, us targets, those informants, but many many informants are or were targets who are broken, made to co-operate, forced, others who just gave in, and or others who were brought up this way and don’t understand the big deal. Many don’t do anything bad as far as they are aware. I don’t mean to keep separating everything, it’s really all one humanity, but as a target it’s so easy if you have a target to say, they, those are the ones doing this, at times it’s easy to forget that many of them suffered also, are suffering. I am sorry for that, but I do have my good days and bad days like everyone else.
Anyways I don’t know what else there is to say.
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We assume that we are different from our forefathers; more tolerant and more willing to allow uncomfortable truths to be aired. We have a liberal democracy and we congratulate ourselves on a commitment to freedom of speech. Yet when the truth sits uncomfortably with our notions of what is right, when it clashes with our dearly held notions of tolerance, we are as squeamish as any of our ancestors. Few are as intolerant as the self-consciously tolerant.
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Uncomfortable truths are not fun, I have come across so many, some posted, some just hard to take, but I have consistently adjusted my comfort level cause I would rather truth than lies. I know not everyone is the same, many are happy with lies, and half truths, or flat out denial, they can not handle the fact that there could be anything bad about the society. They would silence anyone who would say otherwise, but that’s just not acceptable, because it must be said, and some of us are at the convenient place of saying it. When I say convenient, I don’t mean easy, but it’s something that needs to be done. No one is trying to make anyone feel bad, or ashamed, but I don’t know how to make people feel good when the sad truth is that their actions might be helping to kill and harm innocent people. I can just point out the facts and hope that societies conscience will have enough left to do the rest. Oh and pray.
TRUE PATRIOTS
wesmont87
wesmont87 (12 hours ago)
[quote]You need to stop posting these hurtful videos and comments RIGHT NOW. It’s scumbags like you that make it difficult for citizen patrol groups to track targeted criminal subjects, monitor and inspect their homes, etc. Where do you get off insulting these brave men and women who are TRUE PATRIOTS?? I have children, and I want their neighborhood to be safe for kids and decent folk from antisocial creeps like YOU!! I hope the police find you for posting this crap and let you rot in jail. [/quote]
Found the above comment on this youtube profile. Now keep in mind this might just have been some douchbag snitch trying to keep tabs and make their weekend monitoring go better. The profile page has no activity, videos watched ect.
Shy of laughing and wondering if wesmont87 has serious issues, let’s break this down.
What hurtful videos? The ones that are there to help targets?
Next accusation making it difficult law abiding citizens to do their jobs. What jobs? (for citizen patrol groups to track targeted criminal subjects, monitor and inspect their homes, etc. )
Oh that job,the one that we like to call driving to suicide, false institutionalization, false imprisonment, and mass shooting, with some gaslighting and mobbing on the side. Oh that job. My bad.
Maybe I am just overly logical, but it is not the job of informants, deputized citizens, snitches what have you to enter homes, monitor or inspect them. Maybe your rule books say otherwise, but from my delusional world view of democracy and democratic countries, that’s simply not right or legal.
The activities you mention fall into Cointelpro and Stasi type activities and should be exposed to the fullest extent of the law, maybe go back to your slave handler and check your rule books.
Also since you are monitoring and tracking these people how do you know they are criminals and that it’s not just false information? What evidence do you have? Cause if they are such criminals, why does it take years to monitor individuals and not just months?
The next accusation.
{Where do you get off insulting these brave men and women who are TRUE PATRIOTS}
Actually there is no getting off on this stuff, what a lack of imagination you have. It is however in the best interest of myself and other target to call evil for what it is. What is happening now is beyond vigilantism, it’s murder in many cases, forced suicide in others, it’s unjust victimization, and if you think calling the evil for what it is as insulting true patriots you have another thing coming. True Patriots, true citizens would be right here with me trying to expose this very evil that is trying to destroy the democracy that their ancestors worked so hard for. True Patriots would be the first in line to say that we will not stand for such unjust actions, that would be the voice of true patriots and they would be right here with me, not on the side of evil, which is the side that you are on, wither you choose to see it or not.
Next thing to ponder this person has kids. God help our kind if these kids grow up with the same mentality, if by taking away the freedom of others and destroying innocent lives, if this is how you choose to secure a future for your children, you are going about it the wrong way. The only future you will ensure for them is enslavement, such as the former East Germany. A future where free thought and speech are not allowed. If this is how you envision a safer world for your kids, you have a lot more imagining to do, or you have ever low goals.
{I have children, and I want their neighbourhood to be safe for kids and decent folk from antisocial creeps like YOU!!}
Also you know what, Gang Stalking targets have kids, many who have had to watch their kids be tortured and burnt, screaming out in pain. Ramona Lopez says her grandchild has been chipped, others have kids where they have almost killed their kids, by doing such fun things as putting water in diabetic medication. Many others would like to have kids, and families, but as long as psychopathic people like you exist they will not be able to.
Next bit from this person.
{I hope the police find you for posting this crap and let you rot in jail.}
At the rate these countries are going, this might happen in time, but while there is still freedom, there are still officers that do not agree with this garbage, I know this for a fact, they want this out as well.
So to get this straight, the country and future this person wants is a non democratic future, where dissenting idea, or unjust practices are allowed, and innocent people get jailed for pointing it out. Luckily there are still many in the world that do not think this way, and who understand that by destroying the freedom of one, you will eventually destroy the freedom of others.
Unfortunately from my research this sort almost proves to be incapable of understanding such simple truths, such simple facts. This was the case in Nazi Germany, destroy those people over there to ensure that our Fatherland is secure, and they too went about it with impunity, much to the detriment of those targeted.
Come to Stasi Germany same thing, they believed the lies of the state, they did what this person claims to be doing now, destroyed innocent lives, followed the innocent around, made sure they were disinfranchized and swore they were doing the just thing.
Come Cointelpro, same thing, those evil radicals, John Lennon, panthers, the same things, same justifications, more lives destroyed, everyone at the time thinking that their actions were just. However history has pointed the finger, tried all three time periods and labelled each as evil. We are taught to never let such things happen again, yet here we are doing a repete, and if this comment is real, hearing the same lame justifications as before, while innocent men, women and children have their lives decimated.
You and yours are the reason me and my kind can not stop, you are the reason we must continue to fight to see this new wall broken down, this new Cointelpro (the same one, different day.) exposed, and yes this unjust evil must never be allowed to happen again. TRUE PATRIOTS you will head the call, you will hear me and you will work with me, so that this evil future that is envisioned by some, where the innocent are destroyed in this way, does not happen. You will do everything that you can to see this evil time like the rest lands where it belongs, and you will help me in trying to right these wrongs. This is the side that true patriots would be on.
http://www.indigoribbon.com/Quilt/
Government Backdoor?
Does the government have a back door to the internet? I have posted before about strange happenings, but here is something that should be of interest.
I posted a comment at TMZ using my normal email address, the confirmation email did not arrive. I found it strange. So I created a different email address and posted a comment on a different article.
That email confirmation arrived. So it could just be that something was wrong with my original email right? So to test the theory, I created a second account with a different user name, and posted a bubble (meaningless comment) comment. For the bubble comment and different user name, I immediately received the following email. Portions have been edited, but you get the general gist.
(Please activate your comments by clicking this URL:
http://www.tmz.com/confirm/
The comments below will be added to the post titled )
So I got an email confirmation and password, which would allow me to post comments without any need for more email confirmations. I then went back to post my original comment that had a bit more substance, using the password and email, and it does not post. Remember I now have a password, and email, but my original comment is not posting.
So the question is do those that are doing the monitoring have a secret back door to the Internet that allows such things to happen? I think it could be more simple than that. Is there a way to prevent emails from arriving that a hacker could do? Cause I and many targets have seen emails not arrive, but in this case, my original did not arrive, the second did, and the third did not. I usually have better things to do, but I think I can somewhat prove this, ofcourse in typical fashion, after posting this, watch a billion comment show up on TMZ.
It’s not that far off a question considering that the military created the internet, why would they not have backdoors? Even if this specific situation is not caused by a government backdoor, is it not reasonable to assume that they have one?
If they do not have backdoors, then what can they do?
So to test out the theory further I created a third account, using the same mail company where the second email did arrive and lo and behold the email just like with the first email, same user name did not arrive.
I created a different user for the comment. This shows deliberate interference and I think this should make a rational person wonder, just a little bit if something odd is ongoing.
Now only is the comment being prevented from being posted, but emails are being prevented in this case.
So what happens to the emails? see in the first case, you could just assume that the email did not arrive, but the second email with the another company did, but the third email which was created using the first comment, with the second email company did not arrive.
The only difference with the emails is that one comment had a reference to Gangstalking and the other comment did not. Comment two which was a test comment was just a bubble comment, and it make it through.
I don’t think this is happening at TMZ’s side, cause I have seen this before on too many websites. This might be the closest that I have come to proving this. I believe it’s happening at the local end and the idiots doing the monitoring are responsible. So is there a hack that can do this? If so what? What is the work around?
If they need to block emails that badly, then that’s a good thing. It shows that they are scared of this being exposed, and I think this means we are doing better, than expected. Sure getting illegally blocked is not fun, but this can work in our favor.
If we continue to do what we are doing, then I think we can get this exposed.
Lastly when did google mail start requiring a sms phone confirmation for new emails? I have never seen this before.
What happens if there users don’t have a mobile or choose not to send? Can they still create an account in google. I have never seen this before, and would love some feedback from others.
I just checked and it typical make the target look crazy and discredit them, the postings are all there.
Except for a couple of things. Because I used the never signed up at TMZ option for my first email, I should have gotten a response in my in box and did not. So I contacted the site saying, hey I did not get my confirmation email. That was at 3:57 and up until I made this post, none of my comment were on that site, except for the bubble comment, which did not appear up until 4:31 and that was because I finally got an email in the second email account I created. Yet when I go back to this site, I can see comments from myself at 3:51 pm, which were my original comments. So how did the original comments post without the required email verification?
Let me recap. I posted a comment at 3:51 or there abouts. It did not post. No email was received. I tried it again, and nothing. I contacted the site at 3:57 and got their auto responder. Shortly after I created a second account, and posted a bubble comment just for the hell of it. That made it through right away after clicking on the confirmation email, plus another email giving me a user name and password. Subsequently I went went back to post and again nothing happened.
Yet now all the comments are showing. This is typical, trying to discredit the target, but I took the screen caps, which I find help a great deal.
The auto responder from 3:57. At this stage none of my comments where showing up on their site. So I emailed them to say hey what the heck, my comments are not showing.
My original comments are now showing. Those comments that I never received a confirmation email for, which were not showing up at the time of this posting, but are now fully there.
I also have a screen cap of my bubble comment which did post right away at 4:31 Pm on another article.
So were the comments just not showing from my end? A resonable explanation, but then why could I see the bubble comment and not the rest? Where are the missing emails? Why are all the posted comments now showing, about 6 of them in total, which just looks like spam now, but they were not showing at the time. Keep in mind that other comments were posting and those showed up just fine.
It’s a small thing, but sometimes it’s proving the small things that will help you prove the larger things. I by no means thing this is definitive proof, but it should make you go hum?
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